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  • VSI webinar June 6th

    From =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=C3=B8j?=@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 9 13:19:51 2024
    For those that has not seen the invite.

    Camiel will talk about VMS x86-64 supported configs and
    porting tools.

    Norman Lastovica (current SCI, previous Oracle, previous DEC)
    will talk about migration experiences.

    It is not on https://vmssoftware.com/about/webinars/ yet,
    but I assume that it will show up in good time.

    Arne

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  • From Simon Clubley@21:1/5 to arne@vajhoej.dk on Fri May 10 12:33:46 2024
    On 2024-05-09, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
    For those that has not seen the invite.

    Camiel will talk about VMS x86-64 supported configs and
    porting tools.

    Norman Lastovica (current SCI, previous Oracle, previous DEC)
    will talk about migration experiences.

    It is not on https://vmssoftware.com/about/webinars/ yet,
    but I assume that it will show up in good time.

    Arne

    I saw the invite. "Learnings" ???? Seriously ? :-)

    Simon.

    PS: I wonder if we will find out how the Rdb port is coming along.

    --
    Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP
    Walking destinations on a map are further away than they appear.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=C3=B8j?=@21:1/5 to Hans Bachner on Fri May 10 10:14:29 2024
    On 5/10/2024 9:57 AM, Hans Bachner wrote:
    Simon Clubley schrieb am 10.05.2024 um 14:33:
    PS: I wonder if we will find out how the Rdb port is coming along.

    Oracle is not presenting in this webinar. They are the only party to
    reliably comment on this topic.

    I have not seen anything newer than what Oracle said in October:

    <quote>
    ORACLE : VMS PRODUCT NEWS KEVIN DUFFY (SENIOR DIRECTOR, SOFTWARE
    DEVELOPMENT) Kevin gave us an update on Oracle's database
    products for VMS, starting with a review of relations with VSI
    which are regular and multi-level: daily contacts between
    engineers, management meetings every two months and specific
    engineering meetings on x86 porting.
    ...
    For new developments, priority is given to Rdb and DBMS kits
    for x86. The development environment is moving from VMS on Oracle
    VirtualBox (easier for development & tests) to VMS on Oracle
    Linux KVM (OLVM, selected for production) and cross-compilers
    will soon be replaced by native VMS compilers. Progress is
    illustrated by figures on testing and the arrival of native compilers enables tests to be extended. The main dev compiler
    (Bliss) has just arrived in native version. DBMS which shares
    its core with Rdb is advancing at the same pace and may be
    released earlier.
    Rdb in the Oracle cloud: The transition to Oracle KVM as a hypervisor will make it possible to run VMS & Rdb in the
    Oracle cloud.
    ...
    The licensing principle for Rdb on x86 will be the samealready
    known for Oracle Enterprise Edition, with a core-factor of
    0.5: according to the formula "nb licenses = nb cores x core-factor".
    ...
    Other Oracle licensing modes (such as named user) are maintained on x86.
    Codasyl/DBMS is currently being ported..
    ...
    There are currently no plans for a "Free" version of Rdb for personal & free use (as exists for Oracle 23c, with limitations).
    ...
    Roadmap : a beta kit of Rdb on x86 could arrive in the fi
    rst part of 2024 if porting problems are resolved. The same date
    will see a DMBS beta kit, but with greater probability.
    </quote>

    http://www.vmsgenerations.fr/wp-content/plugins/pdfjs-viewer-shortcode/pdfjs/web/viewer.php?file=/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/CR-rdv-17-oct-2023-EN.pdf

    Which sounds OK, but "first part of 2024" is pretty close. :-)

    Arne

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  • From Hans Bachner@21:1/5 to Simon Clubley on Fri May 10 15:57:25 2024
    Simon Clubley schrieb am 10.05.2024 um 14:33:
    On 2024-05-09, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
    For those that has not seen the invite.

    Camiel will talk about VMS x86-64 supported configs and
    porting tools.

    Norman Lastovica (current SCI, previous Oracle, previous DEC)
    will talk about migration experiences.

    It is not on https://vmssoftware.com/about/webinars/ yet,
    but I assume that it will show up in good time.

    Arne

    I saw the invite. "Learnings" ???? Seriously ? :-)

    Simon.

    PS: I wonder if we will find out how the Rdb port is coming along.

    Oracle is not presenting in this webinar. They are the only party to
    reliably comment on this topic.

    Hans.

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  • From John Dallman@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 21 20:21:00 2024
    In article <v1j0jn$panf$1@dont-email.me>, arne@vajhoej.dk (Arne Vajhøj)
    wrote:

    It is not on https://vmssoftware.com/about/webinars/ yet,
    but I assume that it will show up in good time.

    Still not there, but it showed up on LinkedIn, with a registration link. <https://www.linkedin.com/posts/vms-software-inc-_camiel-vanderhoeven-will -provide-an-update-activity-7194396919291359234-ccPf/>


    John

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