I am kind of a late comer to this group, I am playing with RSTS/E V10.1 under SIMH. So far I have two questions but I am not sure how to find answers for them.
1) How to get to DCL from BASIC+ ? I have the PDF of "RSTS/E V10 Quick Reference Manual" but I don't see a clear command to get out of Basic Plus back to DCL
2)I would like to get telnet working, I am running SIMH on my server, and for now I SSH to the server and then su - rsts and finally screen -r to get access to the console TTY - The server is running Debian Linux (12 bookworm).
I have been able to create myself a user, so that is nice.
On 8/24/23 20:26, Ronald Hudson wrote:
I am kind of a late comer to this group, I am playing with RSTS/E V10.1 under SIMH. So far I have two questions but I am not sure how to find answers for them.
Nice!
1) How to get to DCL from BASIC+ ? I have the PDF of "RSTS/E V10 Quick Reference Manual" but I don't see a clear command to get out of Basic Plus back to DCL
If you started BASIC by running BASIC, use "BYE" to exit to DCL. If you're in the BASIC runtime system (i.e. "sw basic"), you can "sw dcl" to get back to the DCL runtime system.
2)I would like to get telnet working, I am running SIMH on my server, and for now I SSH to the server and then su - rsts and finally screen -r to get access to the console TTY - The server is running Debian Linux (12 bookworm).
In your simh configuraiton, you can do:
set console telnet=<port>
...and give it a port number. That's from notes of mine from about fifteen years ago, so make appropriate adjustments (see the docs) if the syntax has changed. That will allow you console access.
What you probably really want to do, though, is create a serial mux device like a DZ11, and plumb it out to TCP ports. Try something like this in your simh config:
set dz lines=8
attach -am dz 4000
Then you'll have eight ports starting at 4000, which RSTS/E will see as physical ports connected to a DZ11 board.
Don't forget to add the DZ11 to your RSTS/E monitor. Do "HA LI" at the <start> prompt at boot time to see if RSTS/E sees the DZ11.
I have been able to create myself a user, so that is nice.
:-)
-Dave
On 8/24/23 20:26, Ronald Hudson wrote:
I am kind of a late comer to this group, I am playing with RSTS/E V10.1 under SIMH. So far I have two questions but I am not sure how to find answers for them.Nice!
1) How to get to DCL from BASIC+ ? I have the PDF of "RSTS/E V10 Quick Reference Manual" but I don't see a clear command to get out of Basic Plus back to DCLIf you started BASIC by running BASIC, use "BYE" to exit to DCL. If
you're in the BASIC runtime system (i.e. "sw basic"), you can "sw dcl"
to get back to the DCL runtime system.
2)I would like to get telnet working, I am running SIMH on my server, and for now I SSH to the server and then su - rsts and finally screen -r to get access to the console TTY - The server is running Debian Linux (12 bookworm).In your simh configuraiton, you can do:
set console telnet=<port>
...and give it a port number. That's from notes of mine from about
fifteen years ago, so make appropriate adjustments (see the docs) if the syntax has changed. That will allow you console access.
What you probably really want to do, though, is create a serial mux
device like a DZ11, and plumb it out to TCP ports. Try something like
this in your simh config:
set dz lines=8
attach -am dz 4000
Then you'll have eight ports starting at 4000, which RSTS/E will see
as physical ports connected to a DZ11 board.
Don't forget to add the DZ11 to your RSTS/E monitor. Do "HA LI" at
the <start> prompt at boot time to see if RSTS/E sees the DZ11.
I have been able to create myself a user, so that is nice.:-)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, President/Curator
Large Scale Systems Museum
New Kensington, PA
In your simh configuraiton, you can do:
set console telnet=<port>
Hi Dave!again soon.
Thanks for your helpful reply! I think I had tried both of those, but just to be sure I will try them again. I think bye just logged me out, the other command garnered a "What?" sort of response. I will go try both of those right now. Will update
There is one other item that vexes me- What date range will this thing accept? I try random dates in the format dd-MMM-yy and so far I have had to throw dates until it finally bought one. I wrote it down - 1965. I thought I had heard that V10.1 wasy2k compliant.
There is one other item that vexes me- What date range will this thing accept? I try random dates in the format dd-MMM-yy and so far I have had to throw dates until it finally bought one. I wrote it down - 1965. I thought I had heard that V10.1 wasy2k compliant.
Thanks again for your quick response!
Ron.
Thanks again Dave,
SW DCL and SW BASIC have worked!
Once upon a time, I was a VAX system operator. DCL is gonna be great fun. Basic Plus is the King of line numbered basics.
The website for your museum is interesting, but I am in Sacramento CA so it will be some time before I can go look. But if I am ever out there I will go look!
On 8/25/23 00:05, Ronald Hudson wrote:
Once upon a time, I was a VAX system operator. DCL is gonna be great
fun.
Basic Plus is the King of line numbered basics.
I too was a VAX system operator, on an 11/750, a couple of 3600s and
a few 3100s, back in the day. I've run similar machines at home since
those days, and now we at LSSM have a great many of them.
We even have a 9000, which was clearly designed by aliens. ;)
On 8/25/23 05:44, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Thanks for your helpful reply! I think I had tried both of those,
but just to be sure I will try them again. I think bye just logged me
out, the other command garnered a "What?" sort of response. I will
go try both of those right now. Will update again soon.
BYE would indeed log you out. SW DCL should do the trick. But in case
it's a bit cagey, maybe try $SW DCL
My mistake, it's not BYE, it's EXIT. That's when running BASIC directly, rather than switching to it as a runtime system using SWITCH.
BYE will only log you out if you're in BASIC via switching to it as a runtime system.
Thanks for your helpful reply! I think I had tried both of those, but
just to be sure I will try them again. I think bye just logged me out,
the other command garnered a "What?" sort of response. I will go try
both of those right now. Will update again soon.
BYE would indeed log you out. SW DCL should do the trick. But in case
it's a bit cagey, maybe try $SW DCL
On 8/24/2023 11:01 PM, Ronald Hudson wrote:
There is one other item that vexes me- What date range will this thing
accept? I try random dates in the format dd-MMM-yy and so far I have
had to throw dates until it finally bought one. I wrote it down -
1965. I thought I had heard that V10.1 was y2k compliant.
It's not. There is a patch out there somewhere... Maybe not. I only
have patches up to V9.6 so maybe I never did find a 10.1 Y2K
If anyone has it it might be Johnny
Found one place https://github.com/agn453/RSTS-E I think it's there someplace.
We even have a 9000, which was clearly designed by aliens. ;)
Is it runnable? That is a machine I would really like to play with...
I have a module from a 9000 at home, but that's about it.
Thanks for your helpful reply! I think I had tried both of those,
but just to be sure I will try them again. I think bye just logged
me out, the other command garnered a "What?" sort of response. I
will go try both of those right now. Will update again soon.
BYE would indeed log you out. SW DCL should do the trick. But in case
it's a bit cagey, maybe try $SW DCL
My mistake, it's not BYE, it's EXIT. That's when running BASIC
directly, rather than switching to it as a runtime system using SWITCH.
Running directly... That would be BASIC+2, would it not? I don't think
you can "run" BASIC+. It's an RTS and a KBM.
BYE will only log you out if you're in BASIC via switching to it as
a runtime system.
I think we need to keep BP and BP2 separate, as they don't really work
the same way.
I too was a VAX system operator, on an 11/750, a couple of 3600s and
a few 3100s, back in the day. I've run similar machines at home since
those days, and now we at LSSM have a great many of them.
My posse was a VAX 11/780, 2 VAX 11/750, a bunch of Data General Nova (I think), A ring of Apollo workstations, and a Symbolics machine. And a Gandalf switch to connect all the terminals to all the systems. My major job was running backups at night andkeeping the tape library tidy.
On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 5:07:46 AM UTC-7, Dave McGuire wrote:
I too was a VAX system operator, on an 11/750, a couple of 3600s and
a few 3100s, back in the day. I've run similar machines at home since
those days, and now we at LSSM have a great many of them.
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