• OS/2 anyone.

    From martinot@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 19 04:39:21 2018
    Den onsdag 1 januari 2014 kl. 19:26:40 UTC+1 skrev Jason Page:
    To appreciate OS/2 best you'd have to watch the OS/2 NT Shootout. OS/2 still does pre-emptive multithreaded multitasking better than windows as far as protecting the application's system resources as to prevent a video from skipping for example.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DAojx2Hgec

    I have seen that video before, and also now. I did not find any such things that supports your claims that the the multitasking or multithreading is not as good in NT as OS/2.

    Personally I used DOS/W3.1, OS/2 2.11 and Warp 3, NT 3.5, 3.51 and 4, and FreeBSD. Each had it + and -, and even if I liked many aspects of OS/2 (better DOS support), I did not have any problems with either NT or *BSD (DOS and Win3.x was of course sub
    par technically).

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  • From tholen@21:1/5 to martinot on Sat May 19 16:30:43 2018
    On Sat, 19 May 2018 04:39:21 -0700, martinot wrote:

    I have seen that video before, and also now. I did not find any such
    things that supports your claims that the the multitasking or
    multithreading is not as good in NT as OS/2.

    Personally I used DOS/W3.1, OS/2 2.11 and Warp 3, NT 3.5, 3.51 and 4,
    and FreeBSD. Each had it + and -, and even if I liked many aspects of
    OS/2 (better DOS support), I did not have any problems with either NT or
    *BSD (DOS and Win3.x was of course sub par technically).

    Windows 10 is also sub-par technically, martinot, not to mention it spies
    on you and you can't turn that off, nor the auto-updater that takes
    features away (e.g. Restore previous versions) so Microsoft can rent them
    back to you (e.g. ads for Microsoft OneDrive cluttering up your Explorer windows that no longer have Restore previous versions).

    You won't find OS/2 pulling such shenanigans, martinot.

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  • From martinot@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 19 12:50:28 2018
    Den lördag 19 maj 2018 kl. 18:30:45 UTC+2 skrev tholen:
    On Sat, 19 May 2018 04:39:21 -0700, martinot wrote:

    I have seen that video before, and also now. I did not find any such
    things that supports your claims that the the multitasking or multithreading is not as good in NT as OS/2.

    Personally I used DOS/W3.1, OS/2 2.11 and Warp 3, NT 3.5, 3.51 and 4,
    and FreeBSD. Each had it + and -, and even if I liked many aspects of
    OS/2 (better DOS support), I did not have any problems with either NT or *BSD (DOS and Win3.x was of course sub par technically).

    Windows 10 is also sub-par technically, martinot, not to mention it spies
    on you and you can't turn that off, nor the auto-updater that takes
    features away (e.g. Restore previous versions) so Microsoft can rent them back to you (e.g. ads for Microsoft OneDrive cluttering up your Explorer windows that no longer have Restore previous versions).

    You won't find OS/2 pulling such shenanigans, martinot.

    Yes, that can be irritating. But not that different from my macOS machines, or iOS and Android devices. Or many modern web apps and services like from Google, Amazon and Facebook.

    A clear plus for old systems like NT and OS/2, or modern OSS alternatives, like *BSD and Linux.

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  • From tholen@21:1/5 to martinot on Sat May 19 22:41:10 2018
    On Sat, 19 May 2018 12:50:28 -0700, martinot wrote:

    Den lördag 19 maj 2018 kl. 18:30:45 UTC+2 skrev tholen:
    You won't find OS/2 pulling such shenanigans, martinot.

    Yes, that can be irritating. But not that different from my macOS
    machines, or iOS and Android devices. Or many modern web apps and
    services like from Google, Amazon and Facebook.

    A clear plus for old systems like NT and OS/2, or modern OSS
    alternatives, like *BSD and Linux.

    Or just for OS/2, martinot. What can NT, BSD, or Linux do that OS/2
    cannot, martinot?

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  • From martinot@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 20 00:50:52 2018
    Den söndag 20 maj 2018 kl. 00:41:13 UTC+2 skrev tholen:
    On Sat, 19 May 2018 12:50:28 -0700, martinot wrote:

    Den lördag 19 maj 2018 kl. 18:30:45 UTC+2 skrev tholen:
    You won't find OS/2 pulling such shenanigans, martinot.

    Yes, that can be irritating. But not that different from my macOS
    machines, or iOS and Android devices. Or many modern web apps and
    services like from Google, Amazon and Facebook.

    A clear plus for old systems like NT and OS/2, or modern OSS
    alternatives, like *BSD and Linux.

    Or just for OS/2, martinot. What can NT, BSD, or Linux do that OS/2
    cannot, martinot?

    Oooh. I guess I didn't really expect anyone to use OS/2 today (I used it the middle of the 90'ies), so I have not considered it that way at all I must admit. I do have the idea to run it on some machines for my nostalgia experience. I just bought an old
    Apple ][+ and an old IBM PS/2 machine for that nostalgia purpose. When I get my PS/2 machine delivered from eBay, I think I will load up an old copy of OS/2 2.11 and IBM DOS 5.0 with Windows 2.11 (for my newly acquired Apple ][+ it will be Apple DOS 3.3
    and ProDOS 2.x).

    But to answer your question directly (if it was serious and ment that way, and not just bantering and kidding with me); I would guess to run modern 64-bit applications on current modern 64-bit machines.

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  • From tholen@21:1/5 to martinot on Sun May 20 16:32:38 2018
    On Sun, 20 May 2018 00:50:52 -0700, martinot wrote:

    Oooh. I guess I didn't really expect anyone to use OS/2 today (I used it
    the middle of the 90'ies), so I have not considered it that way at all I
    must admit. I do have the idea to run it on some machines for my
    nostalgia experience. I just bought an old Apple ][+ and an old IBM PS/2 machine for that nostalgia purpose. When I get my PS/2 machine delivered
    from eBay, I think I will load up an old copy of OS/2 2.11 and IBM DOS
    5.0 with Windows 2.11 (for my newly acquired Apple ][+ it will be Apple
    DOS 3.3 and ProDOS 2.x).

    Classic nostalgia.

    But to answer your question directly (if it was serious and ment that
    way, and not just bantering and kidding with me); I would guess to run
    modern 64-bit applications on current modern 64-bit machines.

    But what good are those, if they won't run OS/2?

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  • From Dave Yeo@21:1/5 to tholen on Sun May 20 11:14:12 2018
    tholen wrote:
    On Sat, 19 May 2018 12:50:28 -0700, martinot wrote:

    Den lördag 19 maj 2018 kl. 18:30:45 UTC+2 skrev tholen:
    You won't find OS/2 pulling such shenanigans, martinot.
    Yes, that can be irritating. But not that different from my macOS
    machines, or iOS and Android devices. Or many modern web apps and
    services like from Google, Amazon and Facebook.

    A clear plus for old systems like NT and OS/2, or modern OSS
    alternatives, like *BSD and Linux.
    Or just for OS/2, martinot. What can NT, BSD, or Linux do that OS/2
    cannot, martinot?

    Use more hardware. eg if you have a computer with only USB3, OS/2 is
    pretty useless. Wireless is another example.
    Dave

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  • From tholen@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 20 20:04:18 2018
    On Sun, 20 May 2018 11:14:12 -0700, Dave Yeo wrote:

    Newsgroups:comp.os.os2.advocacy

    Use more hardware. eg if you have a computer with only USB3, OS/2 is
    pretty useless.

    Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim. If you have a computer with
    only USB3, Yeo, that computer is pretty useless.

    Wireless is another example.

    Of what, Yeo?

    Dave

    What does your alias have to do with OS/2, Yeo?

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  • From Dave Yeo@21:1/5 to tholen on Sun May 20 16:13:04 2018
    tholen wrote:
    On Sun, 20 May 2018 11:14:12 -0700, Dave Yeo wrote:

    Newsgroups:comp.os.os2.advocacy

    Use more hardware. eg if you have a computer with only USB3, OS/2 is pretty useless.

    Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim. If you have a computer with
    only USB3, Yeo, that computer is pretty useless.

    Why?


    Wireless is another example.

    Of what, Yeo?

    Something that doesn't work on OS/2.


    Dave

    What does your alias have to do with OS/2, Yeo?


    The real question is why are you posting from Windows to an OS/2
    advocacy group. Note that I'm actually posting from OS/2.
    Dave

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  • From tholen@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 20 23:19:54 2018
    On Sun, 20 May 2018 16:13:04 -0700, Dave Yeo wrote:

    Newsgroups:comp.os.os2.advocacy

    Why?

    What use is it, Yeo, if OS/2 is useless on it?

    Something that doesn't work on OS/2.

    What use is it, Yeo, if OS/2 is useless on it?

    The real question is why are you posting from Windows to an OS/2
    advocacy group.

    Classic erroneous presupposition.

    Note that I'm actually posting from OS/2.

    Classic pontification.

    Dave

    What does your alias have to do with OS/2, Yeo?

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  • From Double-A@21:1/5 to Dave Yeo on Mon May 21 15:16:54 2018
    On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 4:12:26 PM UTC-7, Dave Yeo wrote:
    tholen wrote:
    On Sun, 20 May 2018 11:14:12 -0700, Dave Yeo wrote:

    Newsgroups:comp.os.os2.advocacy

    Use more hardware. eg if you have a computer with only USB3, OS/2 is pretty useless.

    Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim. If you have a computer with only USB3, Yeo, that computer is pretty useless.

    Why?


    Wireless is another example.

    Of what, Yeo?

    Something that doesn't work on OS/2.


    Dave

    What does your alias have to do with OS/2, Yeo?


    The real question is why are you posting from Windows to an OS/2
    advocacy group. Note that I'm actually posting from OS/2.
    Dave


    I am shocked that Tholen is not even using OS/2 to post here!

    Oh the hypocrisy!

    For shame!

    Double-A

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  • From martinot@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 21 15:59:23 2018
    Den söndag 20 maj 2018 kl. 18:32:40 UTC+2 skrev tholen:
    On Sun, 20 May 2018 00:50:52 -0700, martinot wrote:

    Oooh. I guess I didn't really expect anyone to use OS/2 today (I used it the middle of the 90'ies), so I have not considered it that way at all I must admit. I do have the idea to run it on some machines for my
    nostalgia experience. I just bought an old Apple ][+ and an old IBM PS/2 machine for that nostalgia purpose. When I get my PS/2 machine delivered from eBay, I think I will load up an old copy of OS/2 2.11 and IBM DOS
    5.0 with Windows 2.11 (for my newly acquired Apple ][+ it will be Apple
    DOS 3.3 and ProDOS 2.x).

    Classic nostalgia.

    Indeed!

    But to answer your question directly (if it was serious and ment that
    way, and not just bantering and kidding with me); I would guess to run modern 64-bit applications on current modern 64-bit machines.

    But what good are those, if they won't run OS/2?

    Haha - good question! :D

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  • From tholen@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 22 03:33:47 2018
    On Mon, 21 May 2018 15:16:54 -0700, Double-A wrote:

    1042> Newsgroups:comp.os.os2.advocacy

    1042> I am shocked that Tholen is not even using OS/2 to post here!

    Classic erroneous presupposition.

    1042> Oh the hypocrisy!

    Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

    1042> For shame!

    Classic erroneous presupposition.

    1042> Double-A

    What does your alias have to do with OS/2, Double-A?

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  • From tholen@21:1/5 to martinot on Tue May 22 03:32:27 2018
    On Mon, 21 May 2018 15:59:23 -0700, martinot wrote:

    Indeed!

    Classic pontification.

    Haha - good question! :D

    Classic pontification.

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  • From Double-A@21:1/5 to tholen on Tue May 22 14:00:22 2018
    On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 8:33:47 PM UTC-7, tholen wrote:
    On Mon, 21 May 2018 15:16:54 -0700, Double-A wrote:

    1042> Newsgroups:comp.os.os2.advocacy

    1042> I am shocked that Tholen is not even using OS/2 to post here!

    Classic erroneous presupposition.

    1042> Oh the hypocrisy!

    Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

    1042> For shame!

    Classic erroneous presupposition.

    1042> Double-A

    What does your alias have to do with OS/2, Double-A?


    Pedant!

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  • From tholen@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 23 17:39:33 2018
    On Tue, 22 May 2018 14:00:22 -0700, Double-A wrote:

    1043> Newsgroups:comp.os.os2.advocacy

    1043> Pedant!

    What does your pedantry have to do with OS/2, Double-A?

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  • From dizzy@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 24 19:46:01 2018
    tholen tholed:

    martinot wrote:

    But to answer your question directly (if it was serious and ment that
    way, and not just bantering and kidding with me); I would guess to run
    modern 64-bit applications on current modern 64-bit machines.

    But what good are those, if they won't run OS/2?

    "Nice" logic, tholoon!

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  • From dizzy@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 24 19:59:35 2018
    tholen tholed:

    Dave Yeo wrote:

    Use more hardware. eg if you have a computer with only USB3, OS/2 is
    pretty useless.

    Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim. If you have a computer with
    only USB3, Yeo, that computer is pretty useless.

    Wireless is another example.

    Of what, Yeo?

    Of OS/2 not supporting the latest hardware, kooky.

    Before you ask, tholen, YOU are "kooky".

    Dave

    What does your alias have to do with OS/2, Yeo?

    What does your evasion of obvious points have to do with OS/2, kooky?

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  • From tholen@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 25 04:53:41 2018
    On Thu, 24 May 2018 19:46:01 -0500, dizzy wrote:

    1856> Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy

    1856> tholen tholed:

    What was allegedly endured while writing, dizzy?

    1856> "Nice" logic, tholoon!

    Who is "tholoon", dizzy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
    alias.

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  • From tholen@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 25 04:55:34 2018
    On Thu, 24 May 2018 19:59:35 -0500, dizzy wrote:

    1857> Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy

    1857> tholen tholed:

    What was allegedly endured while writing, dizzy?

    1857> Of OS/2 not supporting the latest hardware, kooky.

    Who is "kooky", dizzy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.

    1857> Before you ask, tholen, YOU are "kooky".

    What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with OS/2, dizzy?

    1857> What does your evasion of obvious points have to do with OS/2, kooky?

    Who is "kooky", dizzy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.

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  • From Double-A@21:1/5 to Richard on Fri May 25 14:19:17 2018
    On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 1:08:59 PM UTC-7, Richard wrote:
    In article <r8negd5uffgdmfdn2udfrb7lk1gu2mbhn2@4ax.com>
    dizzy <dizzy@nospam.invalid> wrote:

    th003n tholed:

    On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:08:25 -0500, dizzy wrote:

    9159> Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy

    9159> The tholokook is back,

    Who is "The tholokook", dizzy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using >that alias.

    9159> calls himself "th003n", now.

    What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do >with OS/2, dizzy?

    Why your long hiatuses, kooky?

    Zzzz.


    The hot lava burning at Tholen's toes has woken him up!

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  • From tholen@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 25 22:11:38 2018
    On Fri, 25 May 2018 14:19:17 -0700, Double-A wrote:

    1044> Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy

    1044> The hot lava burning at Tholen's toes has woken him up!

    What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with OS/2, Double-A?

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  • From tholen@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 25 22:10:22 2018
    On Fri, 25 May 2018 20:06:11 +0000, Richard wrote:

    Newsgroups: alt.test,comp.os.os2.advocacy

    Zzzz.

    What does that have to do with OS/2, Richard?

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  • From dizzy@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 12 18:12:22 2018
    tholen tholed:

    On Thu, 24 May 2018 19:59:35 -0500, dizzy wrote:

    1857> Before you ask, tholen, YOU are "kooky".

    What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with >OS/2, dizzy?

    You are erroneously presupposing that my claim was unsubstantiated and erroneous, tholen.

    1857> What does your evasion of obvious points have to do with OS/2, kooky?

    Who is "kooky", dizzy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.

    The answer is above, tholen. Still suffering from reading
    comprehension problems, tholen?

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  • From tholen@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 13 07:20:58 2018
    On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 18:12:22 -0500, dizzy wrote:

    1858> Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy

    1858> tholen tholed:

    What was allegedly endured while writing, dizzy?

    1858> You are erroneously presupposing that my claim was unsubstantiated
    1858> and erroneous, tholen.

    What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with OS/2, dizzy?

    1858> The answer is above, tholen.

    What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do with OS/2, dizzy?

    1858> Still suffering from reading comprehension problems, tholen?

    What does your classic erroneous presupposition of a question have to do
    with OS/2, dizzy?

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