• Browsers/2

    From johnsuth@nospam.com.au@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 11 23:26:57 2018
    The experience of myself and others suggests that I will soon need to buy new hardware in order to read modern web pages, and to manipulate, print and store their components.

    I already rely on my smartphone to read several web pages when a desktop computer is clearly a better tool for the job.

    My question is :- which OS platform will keep up with internet technology and allow file transfer into my OS/2 and XP LAN?

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  • From Dave Yeo@21:1/5 to johnsuth@nospam.com.au on Wed Jul 11 20:57:14 2018
    johnsuth@nospam.com.au wrote:
    The experience of myself and others suggests that I will soon need to buy new hardware in order to read modern web pages, and to manipulate, print and store
    their components.

    I already rely on my smartphone to read several web pages when a desktop computer is clearly a better tool for the job.

    My question is :- which OS platform will keep up with internet technology and allow file transfer into my OS/2 and XP LAN?

    I've been using Linux Mint as a fall back. The included Samba _should_
    handle your LAN, though it might need some tuning. The newer Firefox's
    work pretty good as well and Linux should be supported for a long time.
    This would probably run fine on your current hardware though it would be
    nice to double your memory so you could use a 64 bit version. You'd
    probably have to turn off all the eye candy as well, which isn't a great
    lost and perhaps use the XFCE version.
    You could try downloading an ISO and burning it and play with a live
    install (running off the DVD). I'd suggest the 18.x version rather then
    the new 19 or better test both and as I said, with only 2GB of memory,
    you should stick with the 32 bit version.
    Dave

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  • From johnsuth@nospam.com.au@21:1/5 to Dave Yeo on Fri Jul 13 07:39:33 2018
    In <wkA1D.382772$ll2.30965@fx35.iad>, Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> writes: >johnsuth@nospam.com.au wrote:
    The experience of myself and others suggests that I will soon need to buy new
    hardware in order to read modern web pages, and to manipulate, print and store
    their components.

    I already rely on my smartphone to read several web pages when a desktop
    computer is clearly a better tool for the job.

    My question is :- which OS platform will keep up with internet technology and
    allow file transfer into my OS/2 and XP LAN?

    I've been using Linux Mint as a fall back. The included Samba _should_
    handle your LAN, though it might need some tuning. The newer Firefox's
    work pretty good as well and Linux should be supported for a long time.
    This would probably run fine on your current hardware though it would be
    nice to double your memory so you could use a 64 bit version. You'd
    probably have to turn off all the eye candy as well, which isn't a great
    lost and perhaps use the XFCE version.
    You could try downloading an ISO and burning it and play with a live
    install (running off the DVD). I'd suggest the 18.x version rather then
    the new 19 or better test both and as I said, with only 2GB of memory,
    you should stick with the 32 bit version.
    Dave

    Thanks Dave.

    A Google search revealed an announced, but not yet released, MintBox Mini 2 Pro with version 19 and all the latest 64 bit hardware. It looks like a cheap and hassle free workaround to the problem of browsing with OS/2.

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  • From Alexander Grotewohl@21:1/5 to Dave Yeo on Fri Jul 13 11:14:13 2018
    On 07/11/2018 11:57 PM, Dave Yeo wrote:
    johnsuth@nospam.com.au wrote:
    The experience of myself and others suggests that I will soon need to
    buy new
    hardware in order to read modern web pages, and to manipulate, print
    and store
    their components.

    I already rely on my smartphone to read several web pages when a desktop
    computer is clearly a better tool for the job.

    My question is :- which OS platform will keep up with internet
    technology and
    allow file transfer into my OS/2 and XP LAN?

    I've been using Linux Mint as a fall back. The included Samba _should_
    handle your LAN, though it might need some tuning. The newer Firefox's
    work pretty good as well and Linux should be supported for a long time.
    This would probably run fine on your current hardware though it would be
    nice to double your memory so you could use a 64 bit version. You'd
    probably have to turn off all the eye candy as well, which isn't a great
    lost and perhaps use the XFCE version.
    You could try downloading an ISO and burning it and play with a live
    install (running off the DVD). I'd suggest the 18.x version rather then
    the new 19 or better test both and as I said, with only 2GB of memory,
    you should stick with the 32 bit version.
    Dave

    I haven't used Hoblink x11 in quite some time, but perhaps it'd still be
    enough to run a Linux web browser on the OS/2 desktop?

    TBH I like OS/2 for the GUI.. don't really mind where one or two of my
    programs execute from. I ran GAIM with Hoblink X11 for a long time to
    talk to friends on AOL Instant Messenger. (This was what.. 17 years ago? sheesh.) Gotta make it do the things you want or it's a bit of a bust.

    Alex

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  • From David Wade@21:1/5 to Alexander Grotewohl on Sat Jul 14 08:21:57 2018
    On 13/07/2018 16:14, Alexander Grotewohl wrote:
    Hoblink x11
    is this available anywhere? to buy?

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  • From Alexander Grotewohl@21:1/5 to David Wade on Sat Jul 14 10:35:36 2018
    On 07/14/2018 03:21 AM, David Wade wrote:
    On 13/07/2018 16:14, Alexander Grotewohl wrote:
    Hoblink x11
    is this available anywhere? to buy?

    Apparently the last legitimate way to get it was with eCS 1.x and the
    trial version on hobbes.nmsu.edu is time-limited.

    I'd bet you could find a full copy if you looked hard enough. Maybe
    promise yourself you'll buy whatever it gets bundled with next. (If it
    ever does) ;)

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  • From Dave Yeo@21:1/5 to Alexander Grotewohl on Sat Jul 14 10:23:30 2018
    Alexander Grotewohl wrote:
    On 07/14/2018 03:21 AM, David Wade wrote:
    On 13/07/2018 16:14, Alexander Grotewohl wrote:
    Hoblink x11
    is this available anywhere? to buy?

    Apparently the last legitimate way to get it was with eCS 1.x and the
    trial version on hobbes.nmsu.edu is time-limited.

    I'd bet you could find a full copy if you looked hard enough. Maybe
    promise yourself you'll buy whatever it gets bundled with next. (If it
    ever does) ;)

    I have a copy on my Warp V4 partition that they gave away at the end.
    When I try to run it under eCS 2.x or AOS, it complains about licensing
    and exits. Not sure how it keeps it license key.
    Simpler is to use a vnc server or remote desktop server on Linux and run
    it from OS/2.
    Dave

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  • From David Wade@21:1/5 to Dave Yeo on Sun Jul 15 00:43:11 2018
    On 14/07/2018 18:23, Dave Yeo wrote:
    Alexander Grotewohl wrote:
    On 07/14/2018 03:21 AM, David Wade wrote:
    On 13/07/2018 16:14, Alexander Grotewohl wrote:
    Hoblink x11
    is this available anywhere? to buy?

    Apparently the last legitimate way to get it was with eCS 1.x and the
    trial version on hobbes.nmsu.edu is time-limited.

    I'd bet you could find a full copy if you looked hard enough. Maybe
    promise yourself you'll buy whatever it gets bundled with next. (If it
    ever does) ;)

    I didn't look too hard. I might if I don't get a positive response


    I have a copy on my Warp V4 partition that they gave away at the end.
    When I try to run it under eCS 2.x or AOS, it complains about licensing
    and exits. Not sure how it keeps it license key.
    Simpler is to use a vnc server or remote desktop server on Linux and run
    it from OS/2.

    That would seem to be a simple option.

    Dave

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  • From johnsuth@nospam.com.au@21:1/5 to johnsuth@nospam.com.au on Thu Aug 16 05:49:36 2018
    In <c1.2c.41Rl7T$0vB@PC1.BIGPOND.COM>, johnsuth@nospam.com.au writes:
    In <wkA1D.382772$ll2.30965@fx35.iad>, Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> writes: >>johnsuth@nospam.com.au wrote:
    The experience of myself and others suggests that I will soon need to buy new
    hardware in order to read modern web pages, and to manipulate, print and store
    their components.

    I already rely on my smartphone to read several web pages when a desktop >>> computer is clearly a better tool for the job.

    My question is :- which OS platform will keep up with internet technology and
    allow file transfer into my OS/2 and XP LAN?

    I've been using Linux Mint as a fall back. The included Samba _should_ >>handle your LAN, though it might need some tuning. The newer Firefox's
    work pretty good as well and Linux should be supported for a long time. >>This would probably run fine on your current hardware though it would be >>nice to double your memory so you could use a 64 bit version. You'd >>probably have to turn off all the eye candy as well, which isn't a great >>lost and perhaps use the XFCE version.
    You could try downloading an ISO and burning it and play with a live >>install (running off the DVD). I'd suggest the 18.x version rather then
    the new 19 or better test both and as I said, with only 2GB of memory,
    you should stick with the 32 bit version.
    Dave

    Thanks Dave.

    A Google search revealed an announced, but not yet released, MintBox Mini 2 Pro
    with version 19 and all the latest 64 bit hardware. It looks like a cheap and >hassle free workaround to the problem of browsing with OS/2.


    Well, I can report that it is.

    The MintBox is fanless, and five of them will just cover a regular keyboard.

    I bought it direct from Compulab and set it up with my OS/2 intuition.
    FF?? does all the things that FF38 once did on OS/2, but no longer does for whatever reasons.

    The Ubuntu repository seems not to have a sufficiently modern driver for my 10 year old printer, so I print to file then FTP it to the server on OS/2 and open it in Lucide for printing with a useable driver.

    I installed Samba but it did not find my OS/2 peer on the Windows Network. Do I
    need Samba also on OS/2? From XP I use NetBT to push and pull files to my OS/2 peer.

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