I've got an old acer tm notebook with 32bit 1.6 ghz centrino cpu and
1.25gb ram (I guess DDR1 270mhz but I can be wrong). I still use it
sometimes just as an "emergency" machine, eg. as an addition backup
space for my storage, if I want to write something with old office
within win xp environment and to run other old sw, but I can't use it
to surf the web because I cannot install any AV else win xp would
freeze. I could upgrade ram from 1.25gb to 2gb but I don't want to
spend extra money for it and it would take me about 2h to change the
256mb inner ram (the outside ram has aldready been upgraded).
I've been using only this machine from its "creation" until about 1
year ago and I solved the websurfing problem using PaleMoon browser
and some plugin like adblock to avoid loading the "heavy" content of
today web pages. It was a situation full of limitations because I
couldn't open more than 2-3 pages at the same time -and dangerous too
due to no AV and the obsolete OS- but it was good enough for me. Now
I'd like to use sometimes this old acer to surf the web, so I'm
thinking to get a linux OS to avoid AV and a web browser with right
plugins able to load only the fundamental content of the web pages, I
mean avoiding to load flash content and everything the would freeze
the 1.25gb ram.
My level of knowledge of linux is "dummy" because I've only been
using ubuntu 18.04 from 1 year so I'm used to work almost with GUI
and not with the terminal. Therefore my goal is to get a low ram
usage linux distro that is "easy" too :)
1.25 GiB is really tight, man. You could always try Damn Small Linux
(DSL), but to the best of my knowledge, 2 GiB is about the lowest
requirement for a 32-bit distro these days, and you'll probably be
swapping like hell.
On 2019-11-10, Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> wrote:
On 10/11/2019 17.37, MaxTheFast wrote:1.25 GiB is really tight, man. You could always try Damn Small Linux
(DSL), but to the best of my knowledge, 2 GiB is about the lowest
requirement for a 32-bit distro these days, and you'll probably be
swapping like hell.
Yes, things will go much better with 2GB. I'm running 32-bit Lubuntu
18.04 on an old Acer Centrino-based laptop upgraded to 2GB memory and a
small (30GB) SSD I had laying around, and it works fine. (Fortunately on
mine the memory upgrade was easy.)
On 2019-11-10, Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> wrote:
1.25 GiB is really tight, man. You could always try Damn Small Linux
(DSL), but to the best of my knowledge, 2 GiB is about the lowest
requirement for a 32-bit distro these days, and you'll probably be
swapping like hell.
Yes, things will go much better with 2GB. I'm running 32-bit Lubuntu
18.04 on an old Acer Centrino-based laptop upgraded to 2GB memory and a
small (30GB) SSD I had laying around, and it works fine. (Fortunately on
mine the memory upgrade was easy.)
On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 13:16:55 -0500, Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> wrote:
On 2019-11-10, Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> wrote:
1.25 GiB is really tight, man. You could always try Damn Small Linux
(DSL), but to the best of my knowledge, 2 GiB is about the lowest
requirement for a 32-bit distro these days, and you'll probably be
swapping like hell.
Yes, things will go much better with 2GB. I'm running 32-bit Lubuntu
18.04 on an old Acer Centrino-based laptop upgraded to 2GB memory and a
small (30GB) SSD I had laying around, and it works fine. (Fortunately on
mine the memory upgrade was easy.)
The distro doesn't really matter. What matters most is which desktop environment
and what system services are enabled.
I'm running Mageia 7 x86_64 with the xfce de on a system with just under
1GB
of ram.
Part of the lshw output ...
description: Motherboard
product: Portable PC
vendor: TOSHIBA
*-firmware
description: BIOS
vendor: TOSHIBA
version: Version 3.70
date: 12/10/2007
size: 128KiB
capacity: 960KiB
capabilities: isa pci pcmcia pnp upgrade shadowing vesa cdboot bootselect edd int13floppytoshiba int13floppy720 int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer acpi usb biosbootspecification
netboot
*-cpu
description: CPU
product: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5500 @ 1.66GHz
I've had to disable most services to make it even slightly usable, but I
use it
to run konversation 24/7, so I can continue using irc when I'm rebooting other
systems I have. I've also been able to view some sites using lynx while
still
running konversation.
With 2GB of ram I think it would be possible to use a lightweight gui
web browser,
depending on what sites are being viewed. It wouldn't be enough for
something
like watching a video, but should be enough for web searches and viewing mostly
text web sites. It would also require an adblocker
Blocking the following sites speeds up a lot of other sites by stopping javascript routines used only for ads or tracking ...
# grep -e facebook -e google -e twitter adblock.conf|sort
zone "ads.ak.facebook.com" { type master; notify no; file "db.adblock"; }; zone "connect.facebook.net" { type master; notify no; file "db.adblock"; }; zone "facebook.com" { type master; notify no; file "db.adblock"; };
zone "googleadservices.com" { type master; notify no; file "db.adblock"; }; zone "google-analytics.com" { type master; notify no; file "db.adblock"; }; zone "googlesyndication.com" { type master; notify no; file
"db.adblock"; };
zone "pagead2.googlesyndication.com" { type master; notify no; file "db.adblock"; };
zone "pagead.l.google.com" { type master; notify no; file "db.adblock"; }; zone "twitter.com" { type master; notify no; file "db.adblock"; };
zone "video-stats.video.google.com" { type master; notify no; file "db.adblock"; };
zone "wintricksbanner.googlepages.com" { type master; notify no; file "db.adblock"; };
zone "www.facebook.com" { type master; notify no; file "db.adblock"; };
zone "www-google-analytics.l.google.com" { type master; notify no; file "db.adblock"; };
Regards, Dave Hodgins
With 2GB of ram I think it would be possible to use a lightweight
gui web browser, depending on what sites are being viewed. It
wouldn't be enough for something like watching a video, but should be
enough for web searches and viewing mostly text web sites. It would
also require an adblocker
But the OP's hard drive concerns me, tooI need a linux distro that 1) uses very few ram, 2) supports 32bit and will support for very long time, 3) is good for noob, 4) requires no more than 8gb after hdd installation with a "proper" web browser, 5) [optional] comes with IT language version/
Careful. With an addblocker it may result you need even more ram. There
is a technical explanation for it. And some pages may load slower
(because it breaks parallel loading, because elements have to be
analyzed before permitting to load the next element).
On 2019-11-11, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Careful. With an addblocker it may result you need even more ram. There
is a technical explanation for it. And some pages may load slower
(because it breaks parallel loading, because elements have to be
analyzed before permitting to load the next element).
I have had no problems running Firefox with an adblocker and a few other addons on my old 2GB laptop. SD videos play OK, but HD playback can get choppy.
Video may play better outside of the browser, directly with a player
such as VLC.
Sorry for cross/multi/whatever-posting. We can continue @ https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.os.linux/3jkPsp-Bg_Qpackage.
But the OP's hard drive concerns me, tooI need a linux distro that 1) uses very few ram, 2) supports 32bit and will support for very long time, 3) is good for noob, 4) requires no more than 8gb after hdd installation with a "proper" web browser, 5) [optional] comes with IT language version/
I got only 2 distros with those specs untils now: puppy xenial and knoppix lxde. Anyway please post your ideas and replies to alt.os.linux :)
Sorry for cross/multi/whatever-posting. We can continue @ https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.os.linux/3jkPsp-Bg_Qpackage.
But the OP's hard drive concerns me, tooI need a linux distro that 1) uses very few ram, 2) supports 32bit and will support for very long time, 3) is good for noob, 4) requires no more than 8gb after hdd installation with a "proper" web browser, 5) [optional] comes with IT language version/
I got only 2 distros with those specs untils now: puppy xenial and knoppix lxde. Anyway please post your ideas and replies to alt.os.linux :)
On 11/11/2019 16:27, MaxThe Fast wrote:package.
Sorry for cross/multi/whatever-posting. We can continue @ https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.os.linux/3jkPsp-Bg_Q
But the OP's hard drive concerns me, tooI need a linux distro that 1) uses very few ram, 2) supports 32bit and will support for very long time, 3) is good for noob, 4) requires no more than 8gb after hdd installation with a "proper" web browser, 5) [optional] comes with IT language version/
I got only 2 distros with those specs untils now: puppy xenial and knoppix lxde. Anyway please post your ideas and replies to alt.os.linux :)
It is not going to happen - not if by "proper" web browser you mean
current versions of Firefox, Chrome or Chromium. These are now 64-bit
only, or they are moving that way fast. And they require /lots/ of ram.
You'll be able to get a system that can handle simpler websites, but not
if you are expecting to use Facebook, Netflix, Google docs, MS Office
365, Google maps, online games, etc.
On 12/11/2019 10.38, David Brown wrote:package.
On 11/11/2019 16:27, MaxThe Fast wrote:
Sorry for cross/multi/whatever-posting. We can continue @ https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.os.linux/3jkPsp-Bg_Q
But the OP's hard drive concerns me, tooI need a linux distro that 1) uses very few ram, 2) supports 32bit and will support for very long time, 3) is good for noob, 4) requires no more than 8gb after hdd installation with a "proper" web browser, 5) [optional] comes with IT language version/
I got only 2 distros with those specs untils now: puppy xenial and knoppix lxde. Anyway please post your ideas and replies to alt.os.linux :)
It is not going to happen - not if by "proper" web browser you mean
current versions of Firefox, Chrome or Chromium. These are now 64-bit
only, or they are moving that way fast. And they require /lots/ of ram.
You'll be able to get a system that can handle simpler websites, but not
if you are expecting to use Facebook, Netflix, Google docs, MS Office
365, Google maps, online games, etc.
Hum! Perhaps requesting the mobile version of such pages: phones and
tablets do not have lots of cpu power or RAM.
(I'm not saying it is a good thing that a machine that is working
perfectly well is now worthless. But that is the reality.)
On 2019-11-12, David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
(I'm not saying it is a good thing that a machine that is working
perfectly well is now worthless. But that is the reality.)
"Worthless" is in the eye of the beholder. I'm using an old 32-bit
Centrino laptop with 2GB of RAM and it works fine for anything I want to
do. I don't really have any interest in Facebook, Netflix, Google docs,
MS Office 365, Google maps, or online games. (For grins though I just
pulled up Google Maps in Firefox to see what would happen and and it
worked fine, brought up a map and directions in just a few seconds with
no apparent problems.)
Agreed, Roger. I just did a little checking with my old Dell Inspiron
5100, with a P4 and 2GB of RAM, using Mageia 7. I installed Adblocker Ultimate, and logged onto Facebook. It came up fine, though it took a
very long time when compared to my newer i3 and i5 machines. Xfce's task manager showed 44-46% RAM usage at that time, or less than 1GB, and of
course zero swap.
Moving over to Youtube, videos are definitely choppy, but I don't think that's due to the low RAM, as the task manager showed even lower RAM
usage than Facebook, at 40%. Rather, I believe the choppiness is coming
from the limitations of the old Radeon 7500 (RV200) video card, using
the open source "radeon" driver.
It's a very functional 15-year-old machine with an up-to-date OS that
would have been trashed long ago if stuck with Windows. Seems all good to me.
Mine is older, from around 2002. I found it at a church sale, priced at
$10, completely dead, with no power supply to use to check it out. A sensible person would have turned and walked away, but I bought it for
the challenge.
...
On 2019-11-14, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:
Mine is older, from around 2002. I found it at a church sale, priced at
$10, completely dead, with no power supply to use to check it out. A
sensible person would have turned and walked away, but I bought it for
the challenge.
...
Cool, I always love reviving old hardware. I also have an old Dell 8500
(an early wide-screen model) that hails from 2003, equipped with a
Pentium-4M and 1.25GB memory. It's running an old, no longer supported version of Ubuntu. I think it should be able to run Lubuntu 18.04 like my "newer" one, will have to try it. No SSD though, it has the old-style parallel ATA drive interface. So it's slow, but looks like memory will
be adequate for Lubuntu and Firefox.
Mhhh... I don't think the last Lubuntu will run on your Dell due to its few ram. My acer has 1.25gb ram too and a pata hdd @5400rpm and I'm trying distros as puppy xenial and bionic and their live sessions run quite good. Just look at minimum lubuntu18.04 requirements and you'll understand you're in my same situation :) If you want to bring your dell back to life you've to look at very low usage ram distros. My constrains are many more than that because I need a friendly distro (I'm very noob) and I
As said my goal is to use this acer to surf the web, of course a "basic" surfing, therefore is fundamental for me that my usb huawei dongle works and here my troubles begin. Consider I've ONLY this usb device to connect to internet, I mean no wireless,no router, etc, just the dongle. I want to use this acer as an "emergency" device so I want to get a distro that allows me to access the internet out-of-the-box. I know it's a pain to make usb internet dongles work so I've this idea: 1) trying distro
By the way, with puppy bionic running live and with nothing else than task manager opened my ram usage was 100/1233MB while after opening "light" (default web browser) it became 204/1233MB, @David W. Hodgins what about ram usage with your mageia 7 +xfce?
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