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On 1/25/2015 12:02 PM, Stephen Harker wrote:

Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> writes:

On 1/24/2015 6:42 AM, playforvoices wrote:

...

But after trying Debian and MorphOS I finaly go back to OSX 10.5. Take >>>>> iCab for Internet, Powermail for Mail, LimeChat for IRC and for security >>>>> I use RootKitHunter OSX (scan for security breaches).

Thanks. I guess I will try all of them to pick the best. Or keep all as >>>> multiple boots and partitions. Heh!

I have forget to say something about MintPPC. It's also a good Distro based >>> on Debian 7. On board they have special drivers for PPC Macs and some "Mint >>> Tools". Give them also a try. Please let me know what your final way is. ;) >>>

So, we currently have:

Debian PPC (updated)
MintPPC (updated)
MorphOS (Amiga, not Linux; updated)
Fedora v16-17 (old)

I did see posts from someone who said that he had upgraded a powermac to fedora 21, but don't know how heroic an effort this was. I think the community releases past 17 were for power64 and apparently up to 21
would work on a G5. There were builds of the packages for power32 or
some such. Not something I would recommend.

Yellow Dog Linux (old)

YDL 6.2 was built on Centos5. You can build the Centos 5 update
packages yourself and update YDL. Again, not something I would
recommend.

I looked at some of the web sites in my previous post. These are not distributions I know much about.

Crux: http://cruxppc.org/ (community build, may be moribund).

Gentoo: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/PPC/FAQ (seems to have recent information).

Ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPC (updated, community builds).

I finally found free time to play this with since I am currently
unemployed. I ran into an issue with my favorite distribution, Debian. I downloaded and burned its debian-8.7.1-powerpc-netinst (going to use a
network cable) onto an old 650 MB CD-RW. It booted up fine until
something about firmware (skipped it for now) the disk management part.
I could not find a way to make it small/big enough for a dual boot set
up since I wanted to keep my Mac OS X v10.2.8 (also has Classic 9 in it)
intact just in case. It is in the 60 GB HDD (actually 55.88 GB with
about 26 GB free according to Mac OS X v10.2.8). I told it to try 20 and
10 GB sizes, but no go (too small, huh?). What's the smallest size I can
use? https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ch03s04.html.en says
I need a minimum of 10 GB, but I tried that.

If not, then what about the other distributions?

Thank you in advance. :)
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Ant wrote:

I could not find a way to make it small/big enough for a dual boot set
up since I wanted to keep my Mac OS X v10.2.8 (also has Classic 9 in it) intact just in case. It is in the 60 GB HDD (actually 55.88 GB with
about 26 GB free according to Mac OS X v10.2.8).

Just to let you know... The 1ghz PowerBook G4 can handle a 320gb ATA
disk. so maybe it would be a good idea to exchange your existing HD with
a 320gb disk - best is the WD Caviar 5400rpm/16mb cache or the somewhat
more expensive 'Black' version of that disk.

Since you have both 10.2.8 (can be upgraded to 10.5.8 on the 1ghz PB) as
well as classic, you can use an older version of Carbon Copy Cloner to
make identical copies on a 320gb disk - partitioned into 3 partitions, -
for example a 40gb partition for OS 9.x, a 80-100gb partition for your
Linus and the rest for OS X...

Cheers, Erik Richard

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In comp.os.linux.powerpc ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> wrote:
...

Since you have both 10.2.8 (can be upgraded to 10.5.8 on the 1ghz PB) as
well as classic, you can use an older version of Carbon Copy Cloner to
make identical copies on a 320gb disk - partitioned into 3 partitions, -
for example a 40gb partition for OS 9.x, a 80-100gb partition for your
Linus and the rest for OS X...

I tried using the v10.5.2 install v1.1 DVDs from a 2008 MacBook Pro, but
it refused to install from bootable DVD. :(
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On 2/26/2017 3:57 PM, Ant wrote:

I finally found free time to play this with since I am currently
unemployed. I ran into an issue with my favorite distribution, Debian. I downloaded and burned its debian-8.7.1-powerpc-netinst (going to use a network cable) onto an old 650 MB CD-RW. It booted up fine until
something about firmware (skipped it for now) the disk management part.
I could not find a way to make it small/big enough for a dual boot set
up since I wanted to keep my Mac OS X v10.2.8 (also has Classic 9 in it) intact just in case. It is in the 60 GB HDD (actually 55.88 GB with
about 26 GB free according to Mac OS X v10.2.8). I told it to try 20 and
10 GB sizes, but no go (too small, huh?). What's the smallest size I can
use? https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ch03s04.html.en says
I need a minimum of 10 GB, but I tried that.

I manage to get going, but still having problems with its disk partition
to install: It got stuck at 52% for a few hours overnight at "Starting
up the partitioner -- Please wait" text screen. First noticed it before
7 AM PST after waking up, and it is now 9:56 AM PST. I am scared to
reboot. MBP's keyboard feels warm in its top area. I assume it is doing something? I wished Macs had HDD lights like PCs. Also, I hope my
network disconnection didn't caused this.

A friend told me to press fn+alt+f4 to see its console. I took a couple
iPhone 4S pictures of it being stuck: https://i.imgbox.com/GwEIUWjX.jpg
and https://i.imgbox.com/POvMqh3M.jpg ... The eth0 line was caused by my
manual network cable disconnection. It looked like a process ran out of
memory (PB only has 512 MB of RAM). Anyways, he told me just reboot. I
was prepared for the worst -- a hosed HDD. In fact, it was OK! It wasn't
even resized!! What the heck?

I am going to take a break since I got other things to do for now. Also,
this bootable Debian text installer needs to blank the screen black
after idling for a while.
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On 3/1/2017 10:47 PM, Ant wrote:

On 2/26/2017 3:57 PM, Ant wrote:

I finally found free time to play this with since I am currently
unemployed. I ran into an issue with my favorite distribution, Debian. I
downloaded and burned its debian-8.7.1-powerpc-netinst (going to use a
network cable) onto an old 650 MB CD-RW. It booted up fine until
something about firmware (skipped it for now) the disk management part.
I could not find a way to make it small/big enough for a dual boot set
up since I wanted to keep my Mac OS X v10.2.8 (also has Classic 9 in it)
intact just in case. It is in the 60 GB HDD (actually 55.88 GB with
about 26 GB free according to Mac OS X v10.2.8). I told it to try 20 and
10 GB sizes, but no go (too small, huh?). What's the smallest size I can
use? https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ch03s04.html.en says
I need a minimum of 10 GB, but I tried that.

I manage to get going, but still having problems with its disk partition
to install: It got stuck at 52% for a few hours overnight at "Starting
up the partitioner -- Please wait" text screen. First noticed it before
7 AM PST after waking up, and it is now 9:56 AM PST. I am scared to
reboot. MBP's keyboard feels warm in its top area. I assume it is doing something? I wished Macs had HDD lights like PCs. Also, I hope my
network disconnection didn't caused this.

A friend told me to press fn+alt+f4 to see its console. I took a couple iPhone 4S pictures of it being stuck: https://i.imgbox.com/GwEIUWjX.jpg
and https://i.imgbox.com/POvMqh3M.jpg ... The eth0 line was caused by my manual network cable disconnection. It looked like a process ran out of memory (PB only has 512 MB of RAM). Anyways, he told me just reboot. I
was prepared for the worst -- a hosed HDD. In fact, it was OK! It wasn't
even resized!! What the heck?

I am going to take a break since I got other things to do for now. Also,
this bootable Debian text installer needs to blank the screen black
after idling for a while.

OK, I finally got them working but my old Mac OS X drive got hosed (no
big deal since I haven't used it for like a decade :P). I had to redo
the drive from scratch. This time I told Mac OS X v10.2.1's installer
DVD's Disk Utility to make two partitions, installed both OSes (Mac OS X
+ v10.2.8 upgrade first and Debian (no resizing this time), etc.

So far, I am happy with these results. Just a pain! I also tried Lubuntu
and Ubuntu, but they had their own issues. Argh. It's nuts that this
wasn't easy! :(
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