• Attention All Sane Gentoo Users!

    From Lester Thorpe@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 23 14:35:25 2024
    Attention All Sane Gentoo Users!

    It's profile change time (it happens about once ever 5 years).
    The default will soon be profile 23.0.

    No big deal, eh? Well, no, unless you are a sane and rational
    human being.

    The security paranoiacs are at it again. Profile 23.0 will
    force the use of "default-stack-clash-protection" and
    "default-znow" options for the gcc compiler, which will then
    cause all packages to be built with those fucking insane
    hardening features.

    This stuff use to be limited specifically to the "hardened"
    profiles, but not any more. The crazy mutherfucking Gentoo
    devs have made it the default for ALL profiles.

    But there is a way to avoid this psycho-security shit.

    The files in /etc/portage/profile allow the user to override
    that whacked nonsense.

    Just add the following line to your "package.use.force"
    file:

    sys-devel/gcc -cet -default-stack-clash-protection -default-znow -libssp nopie nossp -pie -sanitize -ssp vanilla -vtv

    Make sure the "vanilla" is there. That will prevent any
    Gentoo-custom security patches from being applied.

    That'll keep their fucking psycho fingers off your gcc.

    Gentoo is still the ONE and ONLY GNU/Linux distro.

    ALL others are just TOYS for FUCKING TOTS.

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to Lester Thorpe on Sat Mar 23 15:04:38 2024
    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 14:35:25 +0000, Lester Thorpe <lt@gnu.rocks> wrote in <17bf6b7333fab780$3$2218499$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>:

    Attention All Sane Gentoo Users!

    It's profile change time (it happens about once ever 5 years).
    The default will soon be profile 23.0.

    No big deal, eh? Well, no, unless you are a sane and rational human
    being.

    The security paranoiacs are at it again. Profile 23.0 will force the
    use of "default-stack-clash-protection" and "default-znow" options for
    the gcc compiler, which will then cause all packages to be built with
    those fucking insane hardening features.

    This stuff use to be limited specifically to the "hardened"
    profiles, but not any more. The crazy mutherfucking Gentoo devs have
    made it the default for ALL profiles.

    But there is a way to avoid this psycho-security shit.

    The files in /etc/portage/profile allow the user to override that
    whacked nonsense.

    Just add the following line to your "package.use.force"
    file:

    sys-devel/gcc -cet -default-stack-clash-protection -default-znow -libssp nopie nossp -pie -sanitize -ssp vanilla -vtv

    Make sure the "vanilla" is there. That will prevent any Gentoo-custom security patches from being applied.

    That'll keep their fucking psycho fingers off your gcc.

    Gentoo is still the ONE and ONLY GNU/Linux distro.

    So you admit you use a "distro" -- doesn't that make
    you a "distro-lackey", hmmmm?

    ALL others are just TOYS for FUCKING TOTS.

    When I think of the gyrations I used to go through to
    use Fedora Core, then Fedora...

    I don't know what that's like today, but that was some real
    he-man Linux.

    You kids don't know how easy you have it now.

    I switched to Mint because I got tired of fighting
    Red Hat's control of a (supposedly) "community" distribution.
    Got too old for the "add repo X to be able to play an mp3", or
    "sorry, we won't include ECC in our openssl SRPMS because
    we don't understand the legal ramifications". Had enough of
    that.

    And also: who here, besides you, is using Gentoo?

    --
    -v

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  • From DFS@21:1/5 to vallor on Sat Mar 23 12:22:45 2024
    On 3/23/2024 11:04 AM, vallor wrote:
    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 14:35:25 +0000, Lester Thorpe <lt@gnu.rocks> wrote in <17bf6b7333fab780$3$2218499$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>:

    Gentoo is still the ONE and ONLY GNU/Linux distro.

    So you admit you use a "distro" -- doesn't that make
    you a "distro-lackey", hmmmm?


    Feeb is big on rules for thee but not for me.



    And also: who here, besides you, is using Gentoo?


    Remember Greg Shearman (Aussie)? He was a Gentoo user.

    He started having brain seizures in 2013, and hasn't posted since early
    2014.

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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to vallor on Sat Mar 23 12:36:48 2024
    vallor wrote:

    I switched to Mint because I got tired of fighting
    Red Hat's control of a (supposedly) "community" distribution.
    Got too old for the "add repo X to be able to play an mp3", or
    "sorry, we won't include ECC in our openssl SRPMS because
    we don't understand the legal ramifications". Had enough of
    that.

    Do you think that they have legit reasons for being that way, or is it
    a more a "control and profit" situation?

    Many of us prefer the convenience of distros that are less "FOSS
    pure", but can understand why some, such as debian, should remain so.
    At least, by default.

    --
    "Tell us again how you can count the lines of code and know how much
    of the original Linux kernel code is in the current Linux kernel." -
    some dumb fsck, lying shamelessly to attack

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