On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 20:40:44 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote in <17b82174c769487e$167$1404981$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>:

On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 13:28:50 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

As soon as you get to deal with social security administration, you'll
dig your old printer out again, dust it in and out, replace the ink
cartridges, and will pray that it works.

No way. In the USA the E-sign Act makes all electronic documents just
as valid as paper for any legal purpose whatsoever:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

Electronic_Signatures_in_Global_and_National_Commerce_Act

This act took effect way back in 2000 (25 years ago!) and thus anyone
who still uses printed paper is a throwback to ancient times.

A computer printer is a DINOSAUR. It is EXTINCT.

We recently printed out a set of forms to send to the
U.S. Dept. of State. Much nicer (and less error-prone)
than filling them out by hand. You wouldn't know
what I'm talking about, though, because you live
in your mother's basement.

Your erroneous assumption is that you think you know
everything about anything that might be printed,
when in fact, you know very little. Another example
is shipping labels. You just yammer on without any
consideration of reality.

I think you are here to make Linux users look bad.

Oh, and it's a networked HP all-in-one. xsane automatically
detects the scanner on our network. (That's
not CUPS, though.)

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On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 22:03:47 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:

Your erroneous assumption is that you think you know
everything about anything that might be printed,
when in fact, you know very little. Another example
is shipping labels.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Ever here of an RFID tag?

Get back to the 19th century.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

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On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 22:03:47 -0000 (UTC), vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
wrote in <uroak3$3u7gb$1@dont-email.me>:

On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 20:40:44 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote
in <17b82174c769487e$167$1404981$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>:

On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 13:28:50 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

As soon as you get to deal with social security administration, you'll
dig your old printer out again, dust it in and out, replace the ink
cartridges, and will pray that it works.

No way. In the USA the E-sign Act makes all electronic documents just
as valid as paper for any legal purpose whatsoever:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

Electronic_Signatures_in_Global_and_National_Commerce_Act

This act took effect way back in 2000 (25 years ago!) and thus anyone
who still uses printed paper is a throwback to ancient times.

A computer printer is a DINOSAUR. It is EXTINCT.

We recently printed out a set of forms to send to the U.S. Dept. of
State. Much nicer (and less error-prone)
than filling them out by hand. You wouldn't know what I'm talking
about, though, because you live in your mother's basement.

Your erroneous assumption is that you think you know everything about anything that might be printed,
when in fact, you know very little. Another example is shipping labels.
You just yammer on without any consideration of reality.

I think you are here to make Linux users look bad.

Oh, and it's a networked HP all-in-one. xsane automatically detects the scanner on our network. (That's not CUPS, though.)

Larry wrote:

Ever here of an RFID tag?

Get back to the 19th century.

The usual dismal non sequitur from Larry.

He has no response (or imagination).

"The case is closed."

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On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 22:42:42 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 22:03:47 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:

Your erroneous assumption is that you think you know everything about
anything that might be printed, when in fact, you know very little.
Another example is shipping labels.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Ever here of an RFID tag?

Get back to the 19th century.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Yeah, stick that RFID tag on the box you're returning to Amazon. Or up
your ass, whichever comes first.

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On 29 Feb 2024 02:06:18 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in <l4a74pF5pmeU4@mid.individual.net>:

On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 22:42:42 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 22:03:47 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:

Your erroneous assumption is that you think you know everything about
anything that might be printed, when in fact, you know very little.
Another example is shipping labels.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Ever here of an RFID tag?

Get back to the 19th century.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Yeah, stick that RFID tag on the box you're returning to Amazon. Or up
your ass, whichever comes first.

USPS makes the label process easy -- you can pay online
and print a label for your box. Then it is simple for them
to pick it up, or you can drop it off at the post office w/out
waiting in line.

Larry would have to wait in line, if he ever shipped anything.

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On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 03:18:33 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:

USPS makes the label process easy -- you can pay online and print a
label for your box. Then it is simple for them to pick it up, or you
can drop it off at the post office w/out waiting in line.

Amazon does the same thing for returns, the point being you have to print
the label. I suppose Larry could dig into his Crayola box and try to
duplicated it but the bar code would be a bitch.

I haven't had a reason to try it but the Staples next to the supermarket I
go to is an Amazon node now. I've never had a problem with porch pirates
but I think you could have high value items shipped there for pickup too.

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On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 13:34:24 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

And much more generally, printing was a major wonder that became
possible with the advent of personal computers. Every time I bought a
used computer in those earlier days, I paid much more for the printer
that came with it, than the computer itself.

You must not have had any of the Lexmark crap. They practically gave the printers away to sell their overpriced ink. It was the old Kodak formula
-- give them the Brownie and soak them for the film.

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On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 13:57:28 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

I specifically remember that I bought a font editor software from the computer consignment store for the Commodore 64, and created Persian
fonts with it, then had some editor go right to left and using those
fonts wrote letters to my folks back home for about a year or two that
way.

Vim? It's been right to left capable for a long time.

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On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 21:42:38 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

I don't remember what editor I was using with Commodore. It was a
software of its own, separate from the font editor software.

I ever did anything with the 64, just the PET. That was sort of a fluke.
The PET used the IEEE-488 port for its peripherals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE-488

The important part of that page is HP developed it to tie together their
test equipment. My client was making tantalum capacitors and was doing a
lot of process control. A HP desktop computer was about $3K and iirc a PET
was $700. No brainer. Many years later I saw a PET perched on a garbage
can on its way to the dump. I gave a moment of thought to rescuing it but
kept on driving.

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On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 18:08:56 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

No it was before that. These were dot-matrix printers. I remember paying
$400 for one (used - from same consignment store) while I paid I think
$150 for the IBM-XT. Everything got cheaper of course, later.

I don't remember the circumstances but when our QA people needed a dot
matrix for some obscure testing I dragged in my Okidata. When they tried
to give it back I refused.

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CARPENTIER:

Your screen isn't as good as paper to read.

My favorite way to program is lying down, eyes closed.

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On 3/1/2024 5:02 PM, Relf wrote:

My favorite way to program is lying down, eyes closed.

I like to sleep standing up, eyes open.

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