Greetings GNU/Linux enthusiasts.

Today, the best GNU/Linux distro, Gentoo, automagically downloaded,
configured, and compiled from the source code, according to my
strict specifications, the following packages:

netsurf-buildsystem
pkgconf
re2c
c-ares
cpuid2cpuflags
libnsgif
dev-lang/mujs
xz-utils
myspell-en
libreoffice-l10n
sys-libs/zlib
dev-libs/gumbo
media-libs/exiftool
net-misc/curl
mdds
dev-libs/nss
libixion
liborcus
dev-ruby/minitest
dev-ruby/io-console
dev-ruby/rbs
dev-ruby/irbnetsurf-buildsystem
pkgconf
re2c
c-ares
cpuid2cpuflags
libnsgif
dev-lang/mujs
xz-utils
myspell-en
libreoffice-l10n
sys-libs/zlib
dev-libs/gumbo
media-libs/exiftool
net-misc/curl
mdds
dev-libs/nss
libixion
liborcus
dev-ruby/minitest
dev-ruby/io-console
dev-ruby/rbs
dev-ruby/irb
meson
dev-libs/libxml2
dev-python/markupsafe
glib-utils
gdbus-codegen
dev-python/mako
libplacebo
dev-debug/gdb
gentoolkit
media-libs/glm
dev-cpp/eigen
dev-python/cryptography
dev-python/pluggy
dev-libs/protobuf
media-libs/assimp
media-sound/mac
dev-python/hatchling
app-text/libetonyek
pydantic-core
pyopenssl
pydantic
mesa
'=glib-2.78.4-r1'
app-misc/mc
gtk-update-icon-cache
app-text/ghostscript-gpl
app-text/mupdf
ffmpeg
'=gtk+-3.24.40'
'=gtk-4.12.5'
libreoffice
meson
dev-libs/libxml2
dev-python/markupsafe
glib-utils
gdbus-codegen
dev-python/mako
libplacebo
dev-debug/gdb
gentoolkit
media-libs/glm
dev-cpp/eigen
dev-python/cryptography
dev-python/pluggy
dev-libs/protobuf
media-libs/assimp
media-sound/mac
dev-python/hatchling
app-text/libetonyek
pydantic-core
pyopenssl
pydantic
mesa
'=glib-2.78.4-r1'
app-misc/mc
gtk-update-icon-cache
app-text/ghostscript-gpl
app-text/mupdf
ffmpeg
'=gtk+-3.24.40'
'=gtk-4.12.5'
libreoffice

Note how libixion and liborcus, which are responsible for alien
spreadsheet imports, like Microslop Exhell, have caused libreoffice
to be rebuilt.

How much time was required for this wondrous feat?

I cannot ascertain.

I drank a two big cups of Carlo Rossi Merlot, got on my treadmill,
and ran two miles on a 10 degree slope. When I was finished, it was
all over.

Note also all those fucking python modules. I don't use that junk
but something else pulls it in. With python, one requires a separate
module just to convert a character from lower space to upper case.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Gentoo is for REAL GNU/Linux users.

All the phonies use Ubuntu/Mint/Arch/Fedora.

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On 1/27/2024 2:53 PM, Lameass Larry wrote:

Today, the best GNU/Linux distro, Gentoo, automagically downloaded,

Python isn't magic.

configured, and compiled from the source code, according to my
strict specifications, the following packages:

'=glib-2.78.4-r1'
'=glib-2.78.4-r1'
'=gtk+-3.24.40'
'=gtk+-3.24.40'
'=gtk-4.12.5'
'=gtk-4.12.5'
app-misc/mc
app-misc/mc
app-text/ghostscript-gpl
app-text/ghostscript-gpl
app-text/libetonyek
app-text/libetonyek
app-text/mupdf
app-text/mupdf
c-ares
c-ares
cpuid2cpuflags
cpuid2cpuflags
dev-cpp/eigen
dev-cpp/eigen
dev-debug/gdb
dev-debug/gdb
dev-lang/mujs
dev-lang/mujs
dev-libs/gumbo
dev-libs/gumbo
dev-libs/libxml2
dev-libs/libxml2
dev-libs/nss
dev-libs/nss
dev-libs/protobuf
dev-libs/protobuf
dev-python/cryptography
dev-python/cryptography
dev-python/hatchling
dev-python/hatchling
dev-python/mako
dev-python/mako
dev-python/markupsafe
dev-python/markupsafe
dev-python/pluggy
dev-python/pluggy
dev-ruby/io-console
dev-ruby/io-console
dev-ruby/irb
dev-ruby/irbnetsurf-buildsystem
dev-ruby/minitest
dev-ruby/minitest
dev-ruby/rbs
dev-ruby/rbs
ffmpeg
ffmpeg
gdbus-codegen
gdbus-codegen
gentoolkit
gentoolkit
glib-utils
glib-utils
gtk-update-icon-cache
gtk-update-icon-cache
libixion
libixion
libnsgif
libnsgif
liborcus
liborcus
libplacebo
libplacebo
libreoffice
libreoffice
libreoffice-l10n
libreoffice-l10n
mdds
mdds
media-libs/assimp
media-libs/assimp
media-libs/exiftool
media-libs/exiftool
media-libs/glm
media-libs/glm
media-sound/mac
media-sound/mac
mesa
mesa
meson
meson
myspell-en
myspell-en
net-misc/curl
net-misc/curl
netsurf-buildsystem
pkgconf
pkgconf
pydantic
pydantic
pydantic-core
pydantic-core
pyopenssl
pyopenssl
re2c
re2c
sys-libs/zlib
sys-libs/zlib
xz-utils
xz-utils

Nearly everything is duplicated? BWA! GuhNoo crapware at work.

And what's wrong with all that untested hobby crapware such that you get
a new version every few weeks?

I drank a two big cups of Carlo Rossi Merlot,

Wine is for women and gender-confused males.

Merlot is for bull dykes trying to be feminine.

got on my treadmill,
and ran two miles on a 10 degree slope. When I was finished, it was
all over.

Note also all those fucking python modules. I don't use that junk
but something else pulls it in. With python, one requires a separate
module just to convert a character from lower space to upper case.

lower space to upper case?

Linux makes you stupid.

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Le 31-01-2024, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> a écrit :

Nearly everything is duplicated?

Yes.

BWA! GuhNoo crapware at work.

No, LP/DG/NV/whatever management. You put anything into his hands, it
results in garbage. You can blame others for LB/DG/NV/FF/FR errors.

And what's wrong with all that untested hobby crapware such that you get
a new version every few weeks?

By itself, it's not a bad thing. To have a few improvement each week and
you don't need to wait for the rare big improvement.

I drank a two big cups of Carlo Rossi Merlot,

Wine is for women and gender-confused males.

No, wine can be very good. If you believe disgusting alcohol is for real
men, some wine could suit you. Some cheap bad wine can taste like vinegar.

Linux makes you stupid.

He's a Windows user pretending to be a Linux user.

--
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https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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On 2/2/2024 6:13 PM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

Le 31-01-2024, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> a écrit :

Nearly everything is duplicated?

Yes.

BWA! GuhNoo crapware at work.

No, LP/DG/NV/whatever management. You put anything into his hands, it
results in garbage. You can blame others for LB/DG/NV/FF/FR errors.

You think it was a Feeb mistake to dbl-paste a list? I think it was his crapware. Note: I sorted the list - he always posts it unsorted.

And what's wrong with all that untested hobby crapware such that you get
a new version every few weeks?

By itself, it's not a bad thing. To have a few improvement each week and
you don't need to wait for the rare big improvement.

A few years ago I installed OpenSuse Tumbleweed, a rolling distro. These
were the update counts:

Day 0: install

Day 12: "You have 404 new updates"
"Successfully updated 404 packages"

Day 20: "You have 618 new updates"
"Successfully updated 618 packages"

That's 1022 updates in 20 days = 51 per day = insanity

I drank a two big cups of Carlo Rossi Merlot,

Wine is for women and gender-confused males.

No, wine can be very good. If you believe disgusting alcohol is for real
men,

In high school we would do shots and drink whiskey and gin and vokda
straight from the bottle, 'cause we were 17 and drinking was so cool.
Drinking didn't help our skateboarding, though, which we were all
serious about.

some wine could suit you. Some cheap bad wine can taste like vinegar.

I've tried for decades to find a wine that tastes good. I've probably
tried 30 wines. In Napa CA I went to several wineries and did tastings,
and virtually every bit of the swill was disgusting.

The closest I got to a palatable one was a plum wine (because it was
sweet). But I gave up on wine many years ago.

Beer is so good. Hot day, cold day, with or without food, doesn't
matter. Not all beers, of course. Best beer I ever had was at a Hotel Schweizer Stuben in Germany - guess it was a house brand.

Linux makes you stupid.

He's a Windows user pretending to be a Linux user.

I'm kinda glad Feeb can't program worth a crap. I can only imagine the boasting and insults he would post if he were a Linux kernel hacker or
device driver or app developer.

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On 2/2/2024 7:30 PM, Joel wrote:

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

Linux makes you stupid.

Any OS can be used stupidly, including Winblows. I made Windows,
macOS and Linux all look sharp.

Let's see your Linux desktop. Hope it's nicer than Feeb's.

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On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 12:08:14 -0500, DFS wrote:

Python isn't magic.

Are you sure? <https://xkcd.com/353/>

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On 2/2/2024 8:36 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 12:08:14 -0500, DFS wrote:

Python isn't magic.

Are you sure? <https://xkcd.com/353/>

ha!

It's #1 on the TIOBE index, with a significant lead over C.

https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/

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Le 03-02-2024, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> a écrit :

On 2/2/2024 6:13 PM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

Le 31-01-2024, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> a écrit :

Nearly everything is duplicated?

Yes.

BWA! GuhNoo crapware at work.

No, LP/DG/NV/whatever management. You put anything into his hands, it
results in garbage. You can blame others for LB/DG/NV/FF/FR errors.

You think it was a Feeb mistake to dbl-paste a list? I think it was his crapware. Note: I sorted the list - he always posts it unsorted.

Last time he showed up, he had five versions of python on his computer.
So yes, he is unable to clean and to manage what he had installed. For something bloated like Ubuntu or Mint, you can have a lot of useless
things without really knowing why it's there. But for light distros like
Gentoo or Arch there is no reason except the inability of its owner.

And what's wrong with all that untested hobby crapware such that you get >>> a new version every few weeks?

By itself, it's not a bad thing. To have a few improvement each week and
you don't need to wait for the rare big improvement.

A few years ago I installed OpenSuse Tumbleweed, a rolling distro. These
were the update counts:

Day 0: install

Day 12: "You have 404 new updates"
"Successfully updated 404 packages"

Day 20: "You have 618 new updates"
"Successfully updated 618 packages"

That's 1022 updates in 20 days = 51 per day = insanity

You are insane if you use something you don't want. If you have a
rolling version, it's to be up to date with everything. So if you have installed Firefox which does a version every day, you'll have an update
every day. But if you are using wget or curl which didn't really evolved anymore, you'll have very few updates.

So if you want a rolling distro with new applications improving very
fast, you'll have a lot of updates. But it's your choice. If you want
old versions of your applications, you use something like Debian or Red
Hat.

If you can't know why you chose your distro, it's normal it doesn't suit
your needs. But it doesn't mean others don't have different needs.

Beer is so good. Hot day, cold day, with or without food, doesn't
matter. Not all beers, of course. Best beer I ever had was at a Hotel Schweizer Stuben in Germany - guess it was a house brand.

The best brands of beer are the little ones unknown outside.

Linux makes you stupid.

He's a Windows user pretending to be a Linux user.

I'm kinda glad Feeb can't program worth a crap. I can only imagine the boasting and insults he would post if he were a Linux kernel hacker or
device driver or app developer.

No, he wouldn't. He insults everyone because he's bad and not confident.
There is a strong correlation between mediocrity and insults. The best
guys I saw at work and in sport where never insulting and where always
ready to help other's progress. The worst ones I saw, unable to manage
anything where always the ones insulting others and blaming their
mediocrity on others.

--
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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On 2024-02-02 19:43, DFS wrote:

And what's wrong with all that untested hobby crapware such that you get >>> a new version every few weeks?

By itself, it's not a bad thing. To have a few improvement each week and
you don't need to wait for the rare big improvement.

A few years ago I installed OpenSuse Tumbleweed, a rolling distro. These
were the update counts:

Day 0: install

Day 12: "You have 404 new updates"
"Successfully updated 404 packages"

Day 20: "You have 618 new updates"
"Successfully updated 618 packages"

That's 1022 updates in 20 days = 51 per day = insanity

It's not insanity in that the operating system is made up of thousands
of packages which are all in constant evolution. However, it is certain
that you essentially faced 1,022 potential breakages in the system
because any of them might have updated to a version which would have
made other things incompatible. That's why I'm a proponent of Flatpak; I
don't want my software to be dependent on packages used by other
applications. I've lived in that world and it's shit.

Try a Linux system where all or most of your applications are Flatpaks.
I doubt you'll face any kind of issues even years later. If Excel
compatibility is so important to you, I am getting the feeling that the open-source OnlyOffice will provide you with what you're looking for.

< snip >

--
RabidPedagog
Catholic paleoconservative
Linux Mint patron

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On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 12:08:14 -0500, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in <%7vuN.139674$taff.84993@fx41.iad>:

On 1/27/2024 2:53 PM, Lameass Larry wrote:

Today, the best GNU/Linux distro, Gentoo, automagically downloaded,

Python isn't magic.

configured, and compiled from the source code, according to my
strict specifications, the following packages:

'=glib-2.78.4-r1'
'=glib-2.78.4-r1'
'=gtk+-3.24.40'
'=gtk+-3.24.40'
'=gtk-4.12.5'
'=gtk-4.12.5'
app-misc/mc
app-misc/mc
app-text/ghostscript-gpl
app-text/ghostscript-gpl
app-text/libetonyek
app-text/libetonyek
app-text/mupdf
app-text/mupdf
c-ares
c-ares
cpuid2cpuflags
cpuid2cpuflags
dev-cpp/eigen
dev-cpp/eigen
dev-debug/gdb
dev-debug/gdb
dev-lang/mujs
dev-lang/mujs
dev-libs/gumbo
dev-libs/gumbo
dev-libs/libxml2
dev-libs/libxml2
dev-libs/nss
dev-libs/nss
dev-libs/protobuf
dev-libs/protobuf
dev-python/cryptography
dev-python/cryptography
dev-python/hatchling
dev-python/hatchling
dev-python/mako
dev-python/mako
dev-python/markupsafe
dev-python/markupsafe
dev-python/pluggy
dev-python/pluggy
dev-ruby/io-console
dev-ruby/io-console
dev-ruby/irb
dev-ruby/irbnetsurf-buildsystem
dev-ruby/minitest
dev-ruby/minitest
dev-ruby/rbs
dev-ruby/rbs
ffmpeg
ffmpeg
gdbus-codegen
gdbus-codegen
gentoolkit
gentoolkit
glib-utils
glib-utils
gtk-update-icon-cache
gtk-update-icon-cache
libixion
libixion
libnsgif
libnsgif
liborcus
liborcus
libplacebo
libplacebo
libreoffice
libreoffice
libreoffice-l10n
libreoffice-l10n
mdds
mdds
media-libs/assimp
media-libs/assimp
media-libs/exiftool
media-libs/exiftool
media-libs/glm
media-libs/glm
media-sound/mac
media-sound/mac
mesa
mesa
meson
meson
myspell-en
myspell-en
net-misc/curl
net-misc/curl
netsurf-buildsystem
pkgconf
pkgconf
pydantic
pydantic
pydantic-core
pydantic-core
pyopenssl
pyopenssl
re2c
re2c
sys-libs/zlib
sys-libs/zlib
xz-utils
xz-utils

Nearly everything is duplicated? BWA! GuhNoo crapware at work.

It is peculiar that he listed them twice.

sort(1) has a "-u" (unique) option that fixes this.

--
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