If you are a REAL PROGRAMMER you will solve this.
If you are a CODE MONKEY you will screech and bang on the
bars until Mamma Microslop throws you a banana.
The Cost of Beer
If you are a REAL PROGRAMMER you will solve this.
If you are a CODE MONKEY you will screech and bang on the
bars until Mamma Microslop throws you a banana.
The Cost of Beer
On 1/20/2024 6:32 PM, Tyrone wrote:
For the curious, there is a very long discussion about this at
<https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/the-price-of-beer-linear-algebra-problem.1048253/>
But the post you gave the link for is also by "Diego Garcia"... :) Same person as Farley. No?
On 1/20/2024 9:57 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
During the course of
this "lunch" four rounds were purchased, each consisting of combinations
of bitter, lager, cider and stout. Due to an oversight the generous
student made a record of who had drunk how much of each beer
I'm not familiar with Pub jargon. What do you mean by 5/2 or 3/2 etc?
Real programming does not involve coding solutions to problems that have already been solved.
Le 21-01-2024, Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> a écrit :
On 1/20/2024 6:32 PM, Tyrone wrote:
For the curious, there is a very long discussion about this at
<https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/the-price-of-beer-linear-algebra-problem.1048253/>
But the post you gave the link for is also by "Diego Garcia"... :) Same
person as Farley. No?
Yes, and Larry and Nux and some others. He's easy to recognise: he
swears and laughs for no reason half of the time.
I'm not familiar with Pub jargon. What do you mean by 5/2 or 3/2 etc?
On 1/21/2024 3:00 AM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
Le 21-01-2024, Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> a écrit :
On 1/20/2024 6:32 PM, Tyrone wrote:
For the curious, there is a very long discussion about this at
<https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/the-price-of-beer-linear-algebra-problem.1048253/>
But the post you gave the link for is also by "Diego Garcia"... :) Same
person as Farley. No?
Yes, and Larry and Nux and some others. He's easy to recognise: he
swears and laughs for no reason half of the time.
I'll tag "Larry" and "Nux" then too, so it'd be easy to see their posts
among the barrage of nonsense in this forum.
Any more nicknames he uses?
If you are a REAL PROGRAMMER you will solve this.
If you are a CODE MONKEY you will screech and bang on the
bars until Mamma Microslop throws you a banana.
The Cost of Beer
It was nearing Easter, and a group of students went to a local pub
for a (liquid) lunch. Unfortunately, only one of them had any money.
But this student kindly offered to pay for them all on the condition
that they refunded the money at a later time. During the course of
this "lunch" four rounds were purchased, each consisting of combinations
of bitter, lager, cider and stout. Due to an oversight the generous
student made a record of who had drunk how much of each beer and what
the total cost of each round was, but failed to make a record of how
much a pint of each of the beers was! Fortunately the student knew
all about solving simultaneous equations and realized that it was
possible to calculate the cost of the beers from the information
available.
The available data are summarized in the table below.
********* Need Monospace Font ************
Pints of beer bought
Round Bitter Lager Cider Stout Cost of round
no.
1 3/2 2 5/2 1/2 8.99
2 5/2 1/2 2 5/2 10.46
3 2 5/2 3 1 11.78
4 1 2 0 5/2 7.99
The student set the problem up in matrix form, denoting the costs
of pints of bitter, lager, cider and stout as w, x, y and z
respectively, giving a linear equation system.
The student was aware of the problems that could occur if the
matrix was less than full rank, and checked that the determinant was
indeed non-zero. Thus in full confidence the student proceeded to
calculate the cost of each beer. The results were:
A pint of bitter cost: -3.86
A pint of lager cost: 0.60
A pint of cider cost: 4.58
A pint of stout cost: 4.26
The student was puzzled! On checking the calculations no errors
were found! The charges made by the publican were also correct.
If nobody made any error why does it look like the students were
being paid to drink bitter? What are the correct prices?
Monkey want banana? Then monkey solve problem.
Hey. It's straightforward high-school linear algebra.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
So this problem might be a lot of work remembering all that crap again,
and I'm not sure I want to do that.
Yes if you want to trust a package to solve your linear set of
equations.
I hope this clarifies what I meant. But none of this is reason to get intimidated by the amount of stuff to learn. It is actually easy stuff
to learn, and very exciting and engaging to use, and soon you would want
to spend more and more time trying this and that on your own. It becomes close to a "skill" that you'd want to use Like a chess player wants to
play more and more games as he gets better in it.
Would you trust someone else with that task? No. Not if you are a
physicist anyway. And certainly not if you want to get a Nobel Prize for
it.
I asked him why he didn't want to do it himself. His response was
something to the effect of, "That guy is expert in computer programming
while I don't know anything about it."
When it comes to software, reputation is a far more potent motivator than is monetary compensation.
I cannot imagine that any PhD level scientist would not have the
necessary background in programming.
It was [Uncle Al's] own fault :) He was too keen to see what others were saying.
All he needed was to use the kill file feature of his reader, and he
would see no one but others whom he would enjoy spending his forum time
with.
On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 10:49:30 -0800 (PST), Lord Master wrote:
I cannot imagine that any PhD level scientist would not have the
necessary background in programming.
He was semi-capable of using Fortran. His attempts got the job done but
were not robust. However transferring the algorithms to run on an embedded microcontroller for a handheld device wasn't going to happen.
I wonder if Amazon knows that it is supporting the absolute gibbersish
of a total psycho-kook.
I copped a few FORTRAN routines (e.g. FFT) from an IEEE book circa 1985
and ported them to C, including the test vectors.
You're again listing the consequences of the main mistake committed in usenet, namely, not using the kill file. I shouldn't call it a "mistake" though. It is called "management." Those who left, couldn't manage it.
On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 7:29:00 PM UTC-5, Physfitfreak wrote:
I have not seen _one_ post from that high school drop out Archimedes
Plutonium in 20 years. And after seeing his quotes in other
participants' posts, I'd kill file those participants as well. No more
Archie. The only time I notice he's still alive is when I use google
groups to search for a post. There, I notice he is still there like he
was in day one. And a moment later he's history again.
Prepare yourself for a shock of bizarre proportions: Archie P. is a
published author. His "books" are for sale on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/stores/Archimedes-Plutonium/author/B089QBZX8W
I wonder if Amazon knows that it is supporting the absolute gibbersish
of a total psycho-kook.
Oh well, it's easy to fool a cheap, commercial algorithm.
The DuFuS Supremus should consider publishing his ideas and criticisms
of GNU/Linux. Maybe he could "earn" a few bucks from the all the retarded suckers. But I doubt if the DuFuS could write more than a few paragraphs about anything. His type of dementia does not include hypergraphia.
DFS doesn't make an attempt to convince anyone that he's
a virtuous individual.
I'm just glad that DFS doesn't make an attempt to convince anyone that
he's a virtuous individual. Most left-leaning people want us to believe
that they're something like Jesus Christ, and he's avoided doing that to
his credit.
Physfitfreak wrote:
You're again listing the consequences of the main mistake committed in
usenet, namely, not using the kill file. I shouldn't call it a "mistake"
though. It is called "management." Those who left, couldn't manage it.
Kindly post your killfile so that others may be enlightened.
Do you know Arthur Koestler? He was an opportunist early in last century
who saw his chances of becoming somebody, first in communism, and when
he sensed it was going to cost him, he wrote a thick psychology book,
later admitting that the only reason he wrote all that bullshit was to
use sexual matters to attract readers to buy his book; just as what
Freud had done, except the latter's target audience were the Bozos of
the time in the field of psychology itself, which was no science at the
time, not the general public. Koestler had targeted the general public
_and_ such Bozos that were still lingering around in that field, in
1930s.
In Iran we called it, "Women's bath house"! .. Anybody until the age of
5 could walk towards the women's part of the public bath house and stand
at the gate and look at the wonder going on there!... No, not the naked women, that didn't mean a damn thing to us. But the noise! It was like
you had packed 500 women inside a large room, every fucking one of which talking at the loudest voice they could ever produce out of themselves.
All at once! It was a scene to see!..
On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 16:52:07 -0500, RabidPedagog wrote:
I'm just glad that DFS doesn't make an attempt to convince anyone that
he's a virtuous individual. Most left-leaning people want us to believe
that they're something like Jesus Christ, and he's avoided doing that to
his credit.
As long as crucifixion is ultimately part of the package...
Farley Flud wrote:
Physfitfreak wrote:
You're again listing the consequences of the main mistake committed in
usenet, namely, not using the kill file. I shouldn't call it a "mistake" >>> though. It is called "management." Those who left, couldn't manage it.
Kindly post your killfile so that others may be enlightened.
In cola's heyday, I had a massive killfile. Today it's just "Snit",
"DFS", "flatfish" and "Klaus". The first three are in it for life.
On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 08:14:11 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
I copped a few FORTRAN routines (e.g. FFT) from an IEEE book circa 1985
and ported them to C, including the test vectors.
https://github.com/mborgerding/kissfft
That's an interesting implementation that shows up in TensorFlow Lite. The trade off of small and close enough makes it attractive.
The pre-Fortran77 stuff with computed gotos and so forth needs a little thought but doing by hand is a lot better than f2c. That may get
something that works but good luck reading it.
On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 16:52:07 -0500, RabidPedagog wrote:
I'm just glad that DFS doesn't make an attempt to convince anyone that
he's a virtuous individual. Most left-leaning people want us to believe
that they're something like Jesus Christ, and he's avoided doing that to
his credit.
As long as crucifixion is ultimately part of the package...
In cola's heyday, I had a massive killfile. Today it's just "Snit",
"DFS", "flatfish" and "Klaus". The first three are in it for life.
On 1/23/2024 10:23 PM, shitv wrote:
In cola's heyday, I had a massive killfile. Today it's just "Snit",
"DFS", "flatfish" and "Klaus". The first three are in it for life.
Speaking of Snit, old-timers here might be interested to know his wife divorced him and he was arrested for harassing/stalking and fighting
with her.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.computer.workshop/c/S-pznwmU_pg/m/MpLPAKyRAwAJ
No doubt 12 hours per day of unpaid Usenet obsession led to
'irreconcilable differences' with his wife.
some dumb fsck wrote:
chrisv wrote:
In cola's heyday, I had a massive killfile. Today it's just "Snit",
"DFS", "flatfish" and "Klaus". The first three are in it for life.
Speaking of Snit, old-timers here might be interested to know his wife
divorced him and he was arrested for harassing/stalking and fighting
with her.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.computer.workshop/c/S-pznwmU_pg/m/MpLPAKyRAwAJ
No doubt 12 hours per day of unpaid Usenet obsession led to
'irreconcilable differences' with his wife.
True Americans better stay away from Heaven. For their own good.
On 2024-01-24, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
some dumb fsck wrote:
chrisv wrote:
In cola's heyday, I had a massive killfile. Today it's just "Snit", >>>>> "DFS", "flatfish" and "Klaus". The first three are in it for life.
Speaking of Snit, old-timers here might be interested to know his wife >>>> divorced him and he was arrested for harassing/stalking and fighting
with her.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.computer.workshop/c/S-pznwmU_pg/m/MpLPAKyRAwAJ
Wow, that's quite the circus! That thing lying its ass off, as usual.
So what newsgroup is he infesting these days? Or is he still here and I just don't see his posts?
some dumb fsck wrote:
chrisv wrote:
In cola's heyday, I had a massive killfile. Today it's just "Snit",
"DFS", "flatfish" and "Klaus". The first three are in it for life.
Speaking of Snit, old-timers here might be interested to know his wife
divorced him and he was arrested for harassing/stalking and fighting
with her.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.computer.workshop/c/S-pznwmU_pg/m/MpLPAKyRAwAJ
Wow, that's quite the circus! That thing lying its ass off, as usual.
No doubt 12 hours per day of unpaid Usenet obsession led to
'irreconcilable differences' with his wife.
I was always boggled that that thing had a wife and kids. Poor them!
On 2024-01-25, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2024-01-25 13:45, RonB wrote:
On 2024-01-24, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
some dumb fsck wrote:
chrisv wrote:
Speaking of Snit, old-timers here might be interested to know his wife >>>>>> divorced him and he was arrested for harassing/stalking and fighting >>>>>> with her.
In cola's heyday, I had a massive killfile. Today it's just "Snit", >>>>>>> "DFS", "flatfish" and "Klaus". The first three are in it for life. >>>>>>
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.computer.workshop/c/S-pznwmU_pg/m/MpLPAKyRAwAJ
Wow, that's quite the circus! That thing lying its ass off, as usual.
So what newsgroup is he infesting these days? Or is he still here and I just
don't see his posts?
He's not here as far as I know. I guess he got tired of getting no
responses as a result of being in _everyone's_ filter. Somehow, I'm not
surprised that his wife divorced him and made sure to keep him away from
his kids. I can only imagine how often he substituted diaper changes
with screencasts of his opinion on diaper changes.
I can't remember the guy's name, but I remember someone sent a used Mac to Snit so his wife would have a decent computer. I think Snit glommed on to
it, though.
Honestly I was surprised he was even married — or had kids.
I believe that it was Branimir Maksimovic who sent the computer to Snit
and while he was initially thanked, Snit was happy to berate him later
on. There was no reason to be nice to the Prescott Parasite, but
Maksimovic thought differently and was exceptionally generous with the objectively awful human being.
On 1/26/2024 1:55 PM, RabidPedagog wrote:
I believe that it was Branimir Maksimovic who sent the computer to
Snit and while he was initially thanked, Snit was happy to berate him
later on. There was no reason to be nice to the Prescott Parasite, but
Maksimovic thought differently and was exceptionally generous with the
objectively awful human being.
It was m4r3k.
One should not trust anything.
GCC and most other GNU software have already established a solid track
record of reliability.
FOSS software is more trustworthy because the authors are directly
known and would suffer tremendous shame and ridicule if they were to
fail. In contrast, the authors of commercial software are totally
hidden and only the corporate entity takes the blame. When it comes
to software, reputation is a far more potent motivator than is
monetary compensation.
On 2024-01-26 14:17, DFS wrote:
On 1/26/2024 1:55 PM, RabidPedagog wrote:
I believe that it was Branimir Maksimovic who sent the computer to
Snit and while he was initially thanked, Snit was happy to berate him
later on. There was no reason to be nice to the Prescott Parasite,
but Maksimovic thought differently and was exceptionally generous
with the objectively awful human being.
It was m4r3k.
Ah yes, I completely forgot about him despite the fact that he was a wonderful person.
On 1/26/2024 3:32 PM, RabidPedagog wrote:
On 2024-01-26 14:17, DFS wrote:
On 1/26/2024 1:55 PM, RabidPedagog wrote:
I believe that it was Branimir Maksimovic who sent the computer to
Snit and while he was initially thanked, Snit was happy to berate
him later on. There was no reason to be nice to the Prescott
Parasite, but Maksimovic thought differently and was exceptionally
generous with the objectively awful human being.
It was m4r3k.
Ah yes, I completely forgot about him despite the fact that he was a
wonderful person.
sarcasm?
He was mostly a nice guy, but he had his vicious wish-death-on-people
GuhNoo moments, too.
On 2024-01-26 17:14, DFS wrote:
On 1/26/2024 3:32 PM, RabidPedagog wrote:
On 2024-01-26 14:17, DFS wrote:
On 1/26/2024 1:55 PM, RabidPedagog wrote:
I believe that it was Branimir Maksimovic who sent the computer to
Snit and while he was initially thanked, Snit was happy to berate
him later on. There was no reason to be nice to the Prescott
Parasite, but Maksimovic thought differently and was exceptionally
generous with the objectively awful human being.
It was m4r3k.
Ah yes, I completely forgot about him despite the fact that he was a
wonderful person.
sarcasm?
He was mostly a nice guy, but he had his vicious wish-death-on-people
GuhNoo moments, too.
Everyone here has flaws. I have a love-hate relationship with Linux, for example
and Chris Ahlstrom spends his entire day resisting the urge to
be gangbanged by the burly men in his entourage.
Marek was the guy with the fewest flaws around here.
On 1/26/2024 6:42 PM, RabidPedagog wrote:
On 2024-01-26 17:14, DFS wrote:
On 1/26/2024 3:32 PM, RabidPedagog wrote:
On 2024-01-26 14:17, DFS wrote:
On 1/26/2024 1:55 PM, RabidPedagog wrote:
I believe that it was Branimir Maksimovic who sent the computer to >>>>>> Snit and while he was initially thanked, Snit was happy to berate
him later on. There was no reason to be nice to the Prescott
Parasite, but Maksimovic thought differently and was exceptionally >>>>>> generous with the objectively awful human being.
It was m4r3k.
Ah yes, I completely forgot about him despite the fact that he was a
wonderful person.
sarcasm?
He was mostly a nice guy, but he had his vicious wish-death-on-people
GuhNoo moments, too.
Everyone here has flaws. I have a love-hate relationship with Linux,
for example
I sorta had one at some point, but now I'm just indifferent bordering on dislike. I rarely use Linux at all for a couple years now.
And when I see a (cr)app like Bulky (bundled with Mint) being promoted online, I'm further repulsed.
and Chris Ahlstrom spends his entire day resisting the urge to be
gangbanged by the burly men in his entourage.
LOL!
I was surprised to hear he had hip replacements and screws in his neck
from soccer bromances.
Marek was the guy with the fewest flaws around here.
* rbowman and CARPENTIER are mans among mens.
* I like SMelzzzz, but he went hogwild on Apple and left cola
* On paper Feeb is the most ideologically pure, but he forgets to follow
 his own script and contradicts himself all the time. A lost cause.
| Sysop: | Keyop |
|---|---|
| Location: | Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK |
| Users: | 300 |
| Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
| Uptime: | 07:46:41 |
| Calls: | 6,706 |
| Files: | 12,236 |
| Messages: | 5,350,636 |