• Beating A Dead Horse

    From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 8 20:07:52 2024
    https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/networking/the-fall-of-firefox- mozillas-once-popular-web-browser-slides-into-irrelevance/

    I liked the part about royalties from Google being the only thing keeping
    FF afloat.

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  • From RabidPedagog@21:1/5 to rbowman on Mon Jan 8 15:34:16 2024
    On 2024-01-08 3:07 p.m., rbowman wrote:
    https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/networking/the-fall-of-firefox- mozillas-once-popular-web-browser-slides-into-irrelevance/

    I liked the part about royalties from Google being the only thing keeping
    FF afloat.

    They stole Lunduke's story and did a shit job of reporting it.

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    @RabidPedagog

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to RonB on Tue Jan 9 06:59:48 2024
    RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

    On 2024-01-08, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
    https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/networking/the-fall-of-firefox-
    mozillas-once-popular-web-browser-slides-into-irrelevance/

    I liked the part about royalties from Google being the only thing keeping
    FF afloat.

    According to StatCounter Firefox (on the Desktop) is close to 8%, compared
    to Safari at almost 9%, and Edge at almost 12%. Safari earlier in last year was over 15%. Firefox has actually gained a little over the last couple of months. (This is on the Desktop, which is how I use the Internet about 99%
    of the time.)

    Let's see what happens when Google kills Manifest 2 and Firefox continues to support it (allowing the ad blockers that depend on it).

    I've been using Firefox lately because Chrome started acting up on my older (ASUS) Linux laptop. (It's been awhile, I don't remember the symptom.)

    On that ASUS I need to disable the background update to Firefox; I get prompts to "Restart Firefox", or "Your tab has crashed" (due to same) now and then.

    And Chrome... frequent updates via aptitude [*], it's at like version 120.x now.

    [*] Remember when that miserable Troll Hadron said that all the Debian "apt" apps were a "clusterfsck of competing code" or somesuch, though all use
    the same API?

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  • From RabidPedagog@21:1/5 to RonB on Tue Jan 9 07:52:19 2024
    On 2024-01-09 1:31 a.m., RonB wrote:
    On 2024-01-08, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
    https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/networking/the-fall-of-firefox-
    mozillas-once-popular-web-browser-slides-into-irrelevance/

    I liked the part about royalties from Google being the only thing keeping
    FF afloat.

    According to StatCounter Firefox (on the Desktop) is close to 8%, compared
    to Safari at almost 9%, and Edge at almost 12%. Safari earlier in last year was over 15%. Firefox has actually gained a little over the last couple of months. (This is on the Desktop, which is how I use the Internet about 99%
    of the time.)

    Let's see what happens when Google kills Manifest 2 and Firefox continues to support it (allowing the ad blockers that depend on it).

    I get the impression that advertisers are going to change the way they
    pump their ads on the web in response to people complaining that they're
    being bombarded by them. Web users are not willing to return to the late 90s/early 2000s era where a huge number of pop-ups were the norm and ads
    took over your screen. If browsers block any ad-blocking technology,
    companies will have no choice to calm their asses down too to prevent a
    mass exodus from the web onto whatever new protocol appears as an
    alternative.

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    @RabidPedagog

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to RabidPedagog on Tue Jan 9 20:00:26 2024
    On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 07:52:19 -0500, RabidPedagog wrote:

    I get the impression that advertisers are going to change the way they
    pump their ads on the web in response to people complaining that they're being bombarded by them. Web users are not willing to return to the late 90s/early 2000s era where a huge number of pop-ups were the norm and ads
    took over your screen. If browsers block any ad-blocking technology, companies will have no choice to calm their asses down too to prevent a
    mass exodus from the web onto whatever new protocol appears as an alternative.

    Sort of apropos I sometimes watch programs on FreeVee which has frequent, annoying ads. O wouldn't but insurance from Liberty Mutual if it was the
    last insurance company on earth. When I switched from Netflix's DVD plan
    to the cheap (ad supported) streaming plan I wondered how bad that would
    be. Unless they're ramping up gently the ads are infrequent and it's one
    short ad not a cluster. I'm waiting to see how the Amazon Prime ads
    starting at the end of the month go.

    Maybe some advertisers have realized pissing off the target audience with saturation bombing isn't as effective as infrequent reminders.

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