'Tampons now offered in Canadian Parliament mens bathrooms ' ><https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/news/tampons-now-offered-in-canadian-parliament-mens-bathrooms/>
'Tampons now offered in Canadian Parliament mens bathrooms '
<https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/news/tampons-now-offered-in-canadian-parliament-mens-bathrooms/>
Al Sakran wrote:
'Tampons now offered in Canadian Parliament mens bathrooms '
On 26/12/2023 15:56, Al Sakran wrote:
'Tampons now offered in Canadian Parliament men’s bathrooms'
<https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/news/tampons-now-offered-in-canadian-parliament-mens-bathrooms/>
Makes sense, they are all cunts.
'Tampons now offered in Canadian Parliament men’s bathrooms' <https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/news/tampons-now-offered-in-canadian-parliament-mens-bathrooms/>
On 2023-12-26, Al Sakran <japper24@pmail.com> wrote:
'Tampons now offered in Canadian Parliament mens bathrooms ' >><https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/news/tampons-now-offered-in-canadian-par >>liament-mens-bathrooms/>
And where are the men going to insert the tampons?
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:umf549$3ije4$2@dont-email.me:
On 2023-12-26, Al Sakran <japper24@pmail.com> wrote:
'Tampons now offered in Canadian Parliament mens bathrooms ' >>><https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/news/tampons-now-offered-in-canadian-par >>>liament-mens-bathrooms/>
And where are the men going to insert the tampons?
In their wives's hands.
PS: Mens and womens restrooms
distribute condoms, mens and womens
restrooms distribute tampons.
Why is this a problem for you?
soup wrote:
On 26/12/2023 15:56, Al Sakran wrote:
'Tampons now offered in Canadian Parliament men’s bathrooms'
<https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/news/tampons-now-offered-in-canadian-parliament-mens-bathrooms/>
Makes sense, they are all cunts.
what kind of soup
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:umf549$3ije4$2@dont-email.me:
On 2023-12-26, Al Sakran <japper24@pmail.com> wrote:
'Tampons now offered in Canadian Parliament mens bathrooms'
<https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/news/tampons-now-offered-in-canadian-par
liament-mens-bathrooms/>
And where are the men going to insert the tampons?
In their wives's hands.
PS: Mens and womens restrooms
distribute condoms, mens and womens
restrooms distribute tampons.
Why is this a problem for you?
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 19:38:16 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
PS: Mens and womens restrooms
distribute condoms, mens and womens
restrooms distribute tampons.
Why is this a problem for you?
It isn't a problem, it's just has really good entertainment value.
Menstruation entertains you?
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
Menstruation entertains you?
No, but men men pretending to menstruate does, and so does women
pretending to be men.
You just said something transphobic.
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:umf549$3ije4$2@dont-email.me:
On 2023-12-26, Al Sakran <japper24@pmail.com> wrote:
'Tampons now offered in Canadian Parliament mens bathrooms ' >>><https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/news/tampons-now-offered-in-canadian-par >>>liament-mens-bathrooms/>
And where are the men going to insert the tampons?
In their wives's hands.
PS: Mens and womens restrooms
distribute condoms, mens and womens
restrooms distribute tampons.
Why is this a problem for you?
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
Menstruation entertains you?
No, but men men pretending to menstruate does, and so does women >>>>pretending to be men.
You just said something transphobic.
Yes, I did, in keeping with my opinions on the subject.
Does it feel good to be wrong?
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-26, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:He's not wrong.
You just said something transphobic.
Yes, I did, in keeping with my opinions on the subject.
Does it feel good to be wrong?
You are misguided.
I'll donate $100.00 in your name to your favorite charity if you stand on a busy street in
your city and offer random men passing buy a tampon for THEIR PERSONAL USE. >>Something like the equivalent of Times Square in NYC.
You have to video it and you need to interview for 1 hour.
Oh, and you might want to wear your best running shoes and a mouth guard because unless you
live in San Francisco you are going to have some serious encounters.
There really isn't an equivalent to Times Square in NYC, in another
city, but your example is wildly apart from having self-service tampon vending.
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
Menstruation entertains you?
No, but men men pretending to menstruate does, and so does women >>>>pretending to be men.
You just said something transphobic.
Yes, I did, in keeping with my opinions on the subject.
Does it feel good to be wrong?
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
You still haven't answered the question as to WHY a man would need a tampon?
*Transgender* men, who are biologically female, have menstruation just
like cisgender women do. How the fuck have you not heard that?
On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 19:22:35 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
You still haven't answered the question as to WHY a man would need a tampon? >>
*Transgender* men, who are biologically female, have menstruation just
like cisgender women do. How the fuck have you not heard that?
No such thing as "transgender men," nor "transgender women," either.
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-27, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote: >>> On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 19:22:35 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
You still haven't answered the question as to WHY a man would need a tampon?
*Transgender* men, who are biologically female, have menstruation just >>>>like cisgender women do. How the fuck have you not heard that?
No such thing as "transgender men," nor "transgender women," either.
True.
And sure, some female playing dress up to pretend to be a male will menstruate assuming they aren't
too old.
However, a female who is serious at transitioning to become a male will be taking HRT which will
stop menstruation so it's a non topic.
Making demands about gender-affirming care for a person to be
considered genuinely trans is transphobic. The tampons have a place
even if some are taking a drug that you say stops menstruation (I
guess you've determined that to the necessary degree, somehow, in your
mind ...).
And statistically, the number of TOTAL people identifying as the opposite sex is about 1%.
At least in USA.
Big pharma barely manufactures drugs for that low a percentage of people who have some rare
disease.
So why are we catering to these mentally ill people while infringing upon the other 99% ?
The trans people who take these hormone drugs are paying a lot of
money for the privilege.
On 12/26/2023 11:38 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:umf549$3ije4$2@dont-email.me:
On 2023-12-26, Al Sakran <japper24@pmail.com> wrote:
'Tampons now offered in Canadian Parliament mens bathrooms'
<https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/news/tampons-now-offered-in-canadian-
par liament-mens-bathrooms/>
And where are the men going to insert the tampons?
In their wives's hands.
PS: Mens and womens restrooms
distribute condoms, mens and womens
restrooms distribute tampons.
Why is this a problem for you?
Cut the shit. The tampons are not in the men's washrooms for any
practical reason. They are there to make a bullshit political
statement. No wife of a male MP is going to call her husband and say,
"Honey, I'm all out of tampons. Could you grab a few from the men's
room in the Parliament building and bring them home this evening?"
And why should feminine hygiene products *ever* be distributed free of charge? They shouldn't be.
"Tampons now offered in Canadian Parliament men's bathrooms"
for what reason ?
Scout <me4gunzzzzz@centurylink.removeme.this2.net> wrote in news:AdHiN.61533$vFZa.52224@fx13.iad:
On 12/26/2023 11:38 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:umf549$3ije4$2@dont-email.me:
On 2023-12-26, Al Sakran <japper24@pmail.com> wrote:
'Tampons now offered in Canadian Parliament mens bathrooms'
<https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/news/tampons-now-offered-in-canadian- >>>>> par liament-mens-bathrooms/>
And where are the men going to insert the tampons?
In their wives's hands.
PS: Mens and womens restrooms
distribute condoms, mens and womens
restrooms distribute tampons.
Why is this a problem for you?
Cut the shit. The tampons are not in the men's washrooms for any
practical reason. They are there to make a bullshit political
statement. No wife of a male MP is going to call her husband and say,
"Honey, I'm all out of tampons. Could you grab a few from the men's
room in the Parliament building and bring them home this evening?"
And why should feminine hygiene products *ever* be distributed free of
charge? They shouldn't be.
Why not? Toilet paper is.
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
You just said something transphobic.
Yes, I did, in keeping with my opinions on the subject.
Does it feel good to be wrong?
It feels really good to not fall for the woke transgender nonsense...
Being anti-woke is wrong. Being anti-trans is anti-woke. You're
openly a Trump supporting, fascist, dystopia-ideating, devil slave-
master white person.
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-27, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote: >>> On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 19:22:35 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
You still haven't answered the question as to WHY a man would need a tampon?
*Transgender* men, who are biologically female, have menstruation just >>>>like cisgender women do. How the fuck have you not heard that?
No such thing as "transgender men," nor "transgender women," either.
True.
And sure, some female playing dress up to pretend to be a male will menstruate assuming they aren't
too old.
However, a female who is serious at transitioning to become a male will be taking HRT which will
stop menstruation so it's a non topic.
Making demands about gender-affirming care for a person to be
considered genuinely trans is transphobic. The tampons have a place
even if some are taking a drug that you say stops menstruation (I
guess you've determined that to the necessary degree, somehow, in your
mind ...).
And statistically, the number of TOTAL people identifying as the opposite sex is about 1%.
At least in USA.
Big pharma barely manufactures drugs for that low a percentage of people who have some rare
disease.
So why are we catering to these mentally ill people while infringing upon the other 99% ?
The trans people who take these hormone drugs are paying a lot of
money for the privilege.
On 2023-12-27, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote: >> On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 19:22:35 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
You still haven't answered the question as to WHY a man would need a tampon?
*Transgender* men, who are biologically female, have menstruation just >>>like cisgender women do. How the fuck have you not heard that?
No such thing as "transgender men," nor "transgender women," either.
True.
And sure, some female playing dress up to pretend to be a male will menstruate assuming they aren't
too old.
However, a female who is serious at transitioning to become a male will be taking HRT which will
stop menstruation so it's a non topic.
And statistically, the number of TOTAL people identifying as the opposite sex is about 1%.
At least in USA.
Big pharma barely manufactures drugs for that low a percentage of people who have some rare
disease.
So why are we catering to these mentally ill people while infringing upon the other 99% ?
Being anti-woke is wrong. Being anti-trans is anti-woke. You're
openly a Trump supporting, fascist, dystopia-ideating, devil slave-
master white person.
Al Sakran wrote:
'Tampons now offered in Canadian Parliament mens bathrooms ' >><https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/news/tampons-now-offered-in-canadian-parliament-mens-bathrooms/>
Well, what took them so long?
I LOL'ed at this line, from the article: Back in the day, when only
women menstruated, we had to pay for our own products. But now that
men menstruate too..."
Why have I never menstruated?
On 12/26/2023 7:18 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Scout <me4gunzzzzz@centurylink.removeme.this2.net> wrote in
news:AdHiN.61533$vFZa.52224@fx13.iad:
On 12/26/2023 11:38 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:umf549$3ije4$2@dont-email.me:
On 2023-12-26, Al Sakran <japper24@pmail.com> wrote:
'Tampons now offered in Canadian Parliament mens bathrooms'
<https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/news/tampons-now-offered-in-canadia >>>>>> n- par liament-mens-bathrooms/>
And where are the men going to insert the tampons?
In their wives's hands.
PS: Mens and womens restrooms
distribute condoms, mens and womens
restrooms distribute tampons.
I've never seen condoms offered for free in any washroom. I've seen
them in vending machines in men's rooms, and those who want them can
buy them.
Why is this a problem for you?
Cut the shit. The tampons are not in the men's washrooms for any
practical reason. They are there to make a bullshit political
statement. No wife of a male MP is going to call her husband and
say, "Honey, I'm all out of tampons. Could you grab a few from the
men's room in the Parliament building and bring them home this
evening?"
You agree.
And why should feminine hygiene products *ever* be distributed free
of charge? They shouldn't be.
Why not? Toilet paper is.
Toilet paper is cheap and places that have publicly accessible toilets
simply consider it a cost of doing business. And it is available to
everyone, not just half of humanity.
On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 10:18:18 PM UTC-5, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Scout wrote:
And why should feminine hygiene products *ever* be distributed free of
charge? They shouldn't be.
A better question is why should they be taxed as an allegedly luxury/discretionary product,
when men's gender-equivalent products such as condoms are tax-free.
soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
Being anti-woke is wrong. Being anti-trans is anti-woke. You're
openly a Trump supporting, fascist, dystopia-ideating, devil slave-
master white person.
You 'say' that like it's a bad thing.
You would be cool with being considered a racist slave master?
soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
Being anti-woke is wrong. Being anti-trans is anti-woke. You're
openly a Trump supporting, fascist, dystopia-ideating, devil slave-
master white person.
You 'say' that like it's a bad thing.
You would be cool with being considered a racist slave master?
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
Does it feel good to be wrong?
It feels really good to not fall for the woke transgender nonsense...
Being anti-woke is wrong. Being anti-trans is anti-woke. You're
openly a Trump supporting, fascist, dystopia-ideating, devil slave- >>>master white person.
<EYEROLL> If I were to care at all about your assessment if me, I'd
feel even better about myself after reading it.
So you're proud of being a racist phobe.
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
Being anti-woke is wrong. Being anti-trans is anti-woke. You're >>>>>openly a Trump supporting, fascist, dystopia-ideating, devil slave- >>>>>master white person.
<EYEROLL> If I were to care at all about your assessment if me, I'd >>>>feel even better about myself after reading it.
So you're proud of being a racist phobe.
I am proud of inducing insignificant losers like you into making
irrelevent nonsense proclamations.
But the problem is, *YOU* are the "insignificant loser", *I* am a
world famous political figure, a Biblical figure even ("Son of Man").
If I "proclaim" that you're something negative, it means you not only
are, but that it really *is* negative.
On Wed, 27 Dec 2023 15:01:12 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Scout <me4gunzzzzz@centurylink.removeme.this2.net> wrote in >>news:p1OiN.100280$Wp_8.87526@fx17.iad:
On 12/26/2023 7:18 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Scout <me4gunzzzzz@centurylink.removeme.this2.net> wrote in
news:AdHiN.61533$vFZa.52224@fx13.iad:
On 12/26/2023 11:38 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:umf549$3ije4$2@dont-email.me:
On 2023-12-26, Al Sakran <japper24@pmail.com> wrote:
'Tampons now offered in Canadian Parliament menÂs bathrooms' >>>>>>>> <https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/news/tampons-now-offered-in-canadia >>>>>>>> n- par liament-mens-bathrooms/>
And where are the men going to insert the tampons?
In their wives's hands.
PS: Mens and womens restrooms
distribute condoms, mens and womens
restrooms distribute tampons.
I've never seen condoms offered for free in any washroom. I've seen
them in vending machines in men's rooms, and those who want them can
buy them.
Why is this a problem for you?
Cut the shit. The tampons are not in the men's washrooms for any
practical reason. They are there to make a bullshit political
statement. No wife of a male MP is going to call her husband and
say, "Honey, I'm all out of tampons. Could you grab a few from the
men's room in the Parliament building and bring them home this
evening?"
You agree.
And why should feminine hygiene products *ever* be distributed free
of charge? They shouldn't be.
Why not? Toilet paper is.
Toilet paper is cheap and places that have publicly accessible toilets
simply consider it a cost of doing business. And it is available to
everyone, not just half of humanity.
Oh, so disposable sanitary products
should be free as long as they are used
by men. Gads.
I cannot recall ever reading such a stupid thread in here before.
Swill
On 2023-12-27, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 27 Dec 2023 15:01:12 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Scout <me4gunzzzzz@centurylink.removeme.this2.net> wrote in >>>news:p1OiN.100280$Wp_8.87526@fx17.iad:
On 12/26/2023 7:18 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Scout <me4gunzzzzz@centurylink.removeme.this2.net> wrote in
news:AdHiN.61533$vFZa.52224@fx13.iad:
On 12/26/2023 11:38 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:umf549$3ije4$2@dont-email.me:
On 2023-12-26, Al Sakran <japper24@pmail.com> wrote:
'Tampons now offered in Canadian Parliament menÂs
bathrooms'
<https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/news/tampons-now-offered-in-cana >>>>>>>>> dia n- par liament-mens-bathrooms/>
And where are the men going to insert the tampons?
In their wives's hands.
PS: Mens and womens restrooms
distribute condoms, mens and womens
restrooms distribute tampons.
I've never seen condoms offered for free in any washroom. I've seen
them in vending machines in men's rooms, and those who want them
can buy them.
Why is this a problem for you?
Cut the shit. The tampons are not in the men's washrooms for any
practical reason. They are there to make a bullshit political
statement. No wife of a male MP is going to call her husband and
say, "Honey, I'm all out of tampons. Could you grab a few from
the men's room in the Parliament building and bring them home
this evening?"
You agree.
And why should feminine hygiene products *ever* be distributed
free of charge? They shouldn't be.
On Wed, 27 Dec 2023 03:18:05 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Scout <me4gunzzzzz@centurylink.removeme.this2.net> wrote in >>news:AdHiN.61533$vFZa.52224@fx13.iad:
On 12/26/2023 11:38 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:umf549$3ije4$2@dont-email.me:
On 2023-12-26, Al Sakran <japper24@pmail.com> wrote:
'Tampons now offered in Canadian Parliament mens bathrooms'
<https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/news/tampons-now-offered-in-canadia >>>>>> n- par liament-mens-bathrooms/>
And where are the men going to insert the tampons?
In their wives's hands.
PS: Mens and womens restrooms
distribute condoms, mens and womens
restrooms distribute tampons.
Why is this a problem for you?
Cut the shit. The tampons are not in the men's washrooms for any
practical reason. They are there to make a bullshit political
statement. No wife of a male MP is going to call her husband and
say, "Honey, I'm all out of tampons. Could you grab a few from the
men's room in the Parliament building and bring them home this
evening?"
And why should feminine hygiene products *ever* be distributed free
of charge? They shouldn't be.
Why not? Toilet paper is.
Or should all users be
charged for that as well?
Which of Trudeau's relatives has the tampon machine concession for
Canada's public offices?
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-27, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
Being anti-woke is wrong. Being anti-trans is anti-woke. You're >>>>>>>openly a Trump supporting, fascist, dystopia-ideating, devil slave- >>>>>>>master white person.
<EYEROLL> If I were to care at all about your assessment if me, I'd >>>>>>feel even better about myself after reading it.
So you're proud of being a racist phobe.
I am proud of inducing insignificant losers like you into making >>>>irrelevent nonsense proclamations.
But the problem is, *YOU* are the "insignificant loser", *I* am a
world famous political figure, a Biblical figure even ("Son of Man").
If I "proclaim" that you're something negative, it means you not only
are, but that it really *is* negative.
You are smoking some strong wacky weed Joel.
Do you mind sharing with the rest of us?
I'm not proud of myself, but I am who I am, I have some worldly
authority. It's a mistake to question my judgments on something like
trans identity, it indicates the person is failing to keep up with the
times.
On Wed, 27 Dec 2023 17:29:08 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-27, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
Being anti-woke is wrong. Being anti-trans is anti-woke. You're >>>>>>>> openly a Trump supporting, fascist, dystopia-ideating, devil slave- >>>>>>>> master white person.
<EYEROLL> If I were to care at all about your assessment if me, I'd >>>>>>> feel even better about myself after reading it.
So you're proud of being a racist phobe.
I am proud of inducing insignificant losers like you into making
irrelevent nonsense proclamations.
But the problem is, *YOU* are the "insignificant loser", *I* am a
world famous political figure, a Biblical figure even ("Son of Man").
If I "proclaim" that you're something negative, it means you not only
are, but that it really *is* negative.
You are smoking some strong wacky weed Joel.
Do you mind sharing with the rest of us?
I'm not proud of myself, but I am who I am, I have some worldly
authority. It's a mistake to question my judgments on something like
trans identity, it indicates the person is failing to keep up with the
times.
Joel lives in a private little world of his own creation, where he has authority over his make believe friends.
chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
Al Sakran wrote:
'Tampons now offered in Canadian Parliament mens bathrooms'
<https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/news/tampons-now-offered-in-canadian-parliament-mens-bathrooms/>
Well, what took them so long?
I LOL'ed at this line, from the article: Back in the day, when only
women menstruated, we had to pay for our own products. But now that
men menstruate too..."
Why have I never menstruated?
It can happen with testosterone therapy. Even without therapy, men can experience hormonal shifts, as in "irritable male syndrome" or "man-struation".
Perhaps that explains our ex-POTUSes all-caps "merry f'ing christmas" missives.
And of course, if you prohibit trans females from using the women's room, then maybe you need to accomodate that. :-D
I swear, some of us are little better than medieval peasants.
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
*Transgender* men, who are biologically female, have menstruation just >>>>>like cisgender women do. How the fuck have you not heard that?
What are they doing in a men's room if they don't have a penis?
Peeing and/or pooping, presumably, or inserting a tampon.
Shouldn't they be doing that in the ladies'?
That question indicates that you are either a transphobe, or ignorant
of the phenomenon.
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
That question indicates that you are either a transphobe, or ignorant
of the phenomenon [of transgender identity].
There's no phenomenon, there's only a few freaky fools pretending to
be what they cannot be.
That is the attitude of a phobe.
On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 03:01:13 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
Which of Trudeau's relatives has the tampon machine concession for
Canada's public offices?
Governments all over the world are offering them.
In mens' rooms?
https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/free-period-products-countries >>-cities-worldwide/
Personally I don't see a problem with it,
given the number of states and governments
handing out free condoms as well.
https://www.goodrx.com/health-topic/sexual-health/free-condoms
I don't see a problem with it at health clinics, in ladies' rooms or
at the doctor's office. But in men's rooms?
'Tampons now offered in Canadian Parliament men's bathrooms ' ><https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/news/tampons-now-offered-in-canadian-parlia >ment-mens-bathrooms/>
There is real evidence
of trans identity,
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in >news:1tauoi9q96p6o260jva5d1314q89ij1tba@4ax.com:
On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 03:01:13 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
Which of Trudeau's relatives has the tampon machine concession for
Canada's public offices?
Governments all over the world are offering them.
In mens' rooms?
https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/free-period-products-countries >>>-cities-worldwide/
Personally I don't see a problem with it,
given the number of states and governments
handing out free condoms as well.
https://www.goodrx.com/health-topic/sexual-health/free-condoms
I don't see a problem with it at health clinics, in ladies' rooms or
at the doctor's office. But in men's rooms?
Sounds superfluous to me, but if women's
restrooms have condom machines, well...
https://daily49er.com/news/2016/02/09/students-get-free-condoms-in- >university-student-union-bathrooms/
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:39:24 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
*Transgender* men, who are biologically female, have menstruation just >>>>>>like cisgender women do. How the fuck have you not heard that?
What are they doing in a men's room if they don't have a penis?
Peeing and/or pooping, presumably, or inserting a tampon.
Shouldn't they be doing that in the ladies'?
That question indicates that you are either a transphobe, or ignorant
of the phenomenon.
There's no phenomenon, there's only a few freaky fools pretending to
be what they cannot be.
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 03:04:12 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in >>news:1tauoi9q96p6o260jva5d1314q89ij1tba@4ax.com:
On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 03:01:13 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
Which of Trudeau's relatives has the tampon machine concession for
Canada's public offices?
Governments all over the world are offering them.
In mens' rooms?
https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/free-period-products-countri >>>>es -cities-worldwide/
Personally I don't see a problem with it,
given the number of states and governments
handing out free condoms as well.
https://www.goodrx.com/health-topic/sexual-health/free-condoms
I don't see a problem with it at health clinics, in ladies' rooms or
at the doctor's office. But in men's rooms?
Sounds superfluous to me, but if women's
restrooms have condom machines, well...
https://daily49er.com/news/2016/02/09/students-get-free-condoms-in- >>university-student-union-bathrooms/
That isn't a sound analogy. Women can and should have condoms
available in case he doesn't have one. Are you saying men should keep
a tampon handy just in case they run into a woman who needs one? And
what sort of establishment would have tampons in the men's' but not
the ladies'?
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:39:24 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
Does that mean drag queens can use the men's or the ladies' as they choose?
Innies to the right, outies to the left.
On 12/29/2023 10:25 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:39:24 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
{snip}
Does that mean drag queens can use the men's or the ladies' as they choose?
No. A drag queen's gender identity is male and they use the men's
restroom. But, a person whose sex is male but gender identity is female >should be using the women's restroom (without exposing their genitals -
use a stall) because it's part of their treatment for gender dysphoria.
Innies to the right, outies to the left.
Why? No one is exposing their genitals. Why do you wish to harm trans
people when no harm is done by allowing them to use the restroom that
matches their gender identity.
On 12/29/2023 10:25 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:39:24 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
{snip}
Does that mean drag queens can use the men's or the ladies' as they
choose?
No. A drag queen's gender identity is male and they use the men's
restroom. But, a person whose sex is male but gender identity is female should be using the women's restroom (without exposing their genitals -
use a stall) because it's part of their treatment for gender dysphoria.
Innies to the right, outies to the left.
Why? No one is exposing their genitals. Why do you wish to harm trans
people when no harm is done by allowing them to use the restroom that
matches their gender identity.
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 08:09:59 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/29/2023 10:25 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:39:24 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
{snip}
Does that mean drag queens can use the men's or the ladies' as they choose? >>No. A drag queen's gender identity is male and they use the men's
restroom. But, a person whose sex is male but gender identity is female
should be using the women's restroom (without exposing their genitals -
use a stall) because it's part of their treatment for gender dysphoria.
Innies to the right, outies to the left.
Why? No one is exposing their genitals. Why do you wish to harm trans
people when no harm is done by allowing them to use the restroom that
matches their gender identity.
No, the correct treatment for males trying to use female only
facilities and compete in female only athletics is to have their butts kicked. Tar and feathering is correct for the second offence.
As Joel pointed out, your opinion results from ignorance.
On 12/30/2023 9:41 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 08:09:59 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/29/2023 10:25 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:39:24 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
{snip}
Does that mean drag queens can use the men's or the ladies' as they choose?
No. A drag queen's gender identity is male and they use the men's
restroom. But, a person whose sex is male but gender identity is female
should be using the women's restroom (without exposing their genitals -
use a stall) because it's part of their treatment for gender dysphoria.
Innies to the right, outies to the left.
Why? No one is exposing their genitals. Why do you wish to harm trans
people when no harm is done by allowing them to use the restroom that
matches their gender identity.
No, the correct treatment for males trying to use female only
facilities and compete in female only athletics is to have their butts
kicked. Tar and feathering is correct for the second offence.
As Joel pointed out, your opinion results from ignorance.
On 12/30/2023 9:41 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 08:09:59 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/29/2023 10:25 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:39:24 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
{snip}
Does that mean drag queens can use the men's or the ladies' as they choose?
No. A drag queen's gender identity is male and they use the men's
restroom. But, a person whose sex is male but gender identity is female
should be using the women's restroom (without exposing their genitals -
use a stall) because it's part of their treatment for gender dysphoria.
Innies to the right, outies to the left.
Why? No one is exposing their genitals. Why do you wish to harm trans
people when no harm is done by allowing them to use the restroom that
matches their gender identity.
No, the correct treatment for males trying to use female only
facilities and compete in female only athletics is to have their butts
kicked. Tar and feathering is correct for the second offence.
As Joel pointed out, your opinion results from ignorance.
On 12/30/2023 9:41 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 08:09:59 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/29/2023 10:25 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:39:24 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
{snip}
Does that mean drag queens can use the men's or the ladies' as they
choose?
No. A drag queen's gender identity is male and they use the men's
restroom. But, a person whose sex is male but gender identity is female
should be using the women's restroom (without exposing their genitals -
use a stall) because it's part of their treatment for gender dysphoria.
Innies to the right, outies to the left.
Why? No one is exposing their genitals. Why do you wish to harm trans
people when no harm is done by allowing them to use the restroom that
matches their gender identity.
No, the correct treatment for males trying to use female only
facilities and compete in female only athletics is to have their butts
kicked. Tar and feathering is correct for the second offence.
As Joel pointed out, your opinion results from ignorance.
On 30/12/2023 17:50, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
On 12/30/2023 9:41 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 08:09:59 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/29/2023 10:25 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:39:24 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>{snip}
Does that mean drag queens can use the men's or the ladies' as they
choose?
No. A drag queen's gender identity is male and they use the men's
restroom. But, a person whose sex is male but gender identity is female >>>> should be using the women's restroom (without exposing their genitals - >>>> use a stall) because it's part of their treatment for gender dysphoria. >>>>
Innies to the right, outies to the left.
Why? No one is exposing their genitals. Why do you wish to harm trans
people when no harm is done by allowing them to use the restroom that
matches their gender identity.
No, the correct treatment for males trying to use female only
facilities and compete in female only athletics is to have their butts
kicked. Tar and feathering is correct for the second offence.
As Joel pointed out, your opinion results from ignorance.
Ignorance or a difference of opinion?
On 12/30/2023 10:35 AM, soup wrote:
On 30/12/2023 17:50, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
On 12/30/2023 9:41 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 08:09:59 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/29/2023 10:25 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:39:24 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>{snip}
Does that mean drag queens can use the men's or the ladies' as they >>>>>> choose?
No. A drag queen's gender identity is male and they use the men's
restroom. But, a person whose sex is male but gender identity is female >>>>> should be using the women's restroom (without exposing their genitals - >>>>> use a stall) because it's part of their treatment for gender dysphoria. >>>>>
Innies to the right, outies to the left.
Why? No one is exposing their genitals. Why do you wish to harm trans >>>>> people when no harm is done by allowing them to use the restroom that >>>>> matches their gender identity.
No, the correct treatment for males trying to use female only
facilities and compete in female only athletics is to have their butts >>>> kicked. Tar and feathering is correct for the second offence.
As Joel pointed out, your opinion results from ignorance.
Ignorance or a difference of opinion?
Certainly it's a difference of opinion. But, his opinion (gender
identity does not exist, those who claim to have a gender identity that >doesn't match their sex are delusional) ignores research studies and
almost all of medical authorities.
Heck, even Republican governor Mike Dewine has paid attention to the data.
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 12:38:15 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2023 10:35 AM, soup wrote:
On 30/12/2023 17:50, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
On 12/30/2023 9:41 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 08:09:59 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/29/2023 10:25 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:39:24 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>{snip}
Does that mean drag queens can use the men's or the ladies' as they >>>>>>> choose?
No. A drag queen's gender identity is male and they use the men's
restroom. But, a person whose sex is male but gender identity is female >>>>>> should be using the women's restroom (without exposing their genitals - >>>>>> use a stall) because it's part of their treatment for gender dysphoria. >>>>>>
Innies to the right, outies to the left.
Why? No one is exposing their genitals. Why do you wish to harm trans >>>>>> people when no harm is done by allowing them to use the restroom that >>>>>> matches their gender identity.
No, the correct treatment for males trying to use female only
facilities and compete in female only athletics is to have their butts >>>>> kicked. Tar and feathering is correct for the second offence.
As Joel pointed out, your opinion results from ignorance.
Ignorance or a difference of opinion?
Certainly it's a difference of opinion. But, his opinion (gender
identity does not exist, those who claim to have a gender identity that
doesn't match their sex are delusional) ignores research studies and
almost all of medical authorities.
Heck, even Republican governor Mike Dewine has paid attention to the data.
There is simply no evidence that gender is any different from
biological sex, and there's is no research studies that prove
otherwise, nor can there be. Feeling like a woman does not turn a man
into woman any more than feeling like a duck makes water run off your
back.
On 12/30/2023 1:02 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 12:38:15 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2023 10:35 AM, soup wrote:There is simply no evidence that gender is any different from
On 30/12/2023 17:50, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
On 12/30/2023 9:41 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 08:09:59 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/29/2023 10:25 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:39:24 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>{snip}
Does that mean drag queens can use the men's or the ladies' as they >>>>>>>> choose?
No. A drag queen's gender identity is male and they use the men's >>>>>>> restroom. But, a person whose sex is male but gender identity is female >>>>>>> should be using the women's restroom (without exposing their genitals - >>>>>>> use a stall) because it's part of their treatment for gender dysphoria. >>>>>>>
Innies to the right, outies to the left.
Why? No one is exposing their genitals. Why do you wish to harm trans >>>>>>> people when no harm is done by allowing them to use the restroom that >>>>>>> matches their gender identity.
No, the correct treatment for males trying to use female only
facilities and compete in female only athletics is to have their butts >>>>>> kicked. Tar and feathering is correct for the second offence.
As Joel pointed out, your opinion results from ignorance.
Ignorance or a difference of opinion?
Certainly it's a difference of opinion. But, his opinion (gender
identity does not exist, those who claim to have a gender identity that
doesn't match their sex are delusional) ignores research studies and
almost all of medical authorities.
Heck, even Republican governor Mike Dewine has paid attention to the data. >>
biological sex, and there's is no research studies that prove
otherwise, nor can there be. Feeling like a woman does not turn a man
into woman any more than feeling like a duck makes water run off your
back.
Don't forget to wipe the sand off you face when you take breaks from
sticking head in it.
https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-well-being-of-transgender-people/
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 13:08:11 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2023 1:02 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 12:38:15 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2023 10:35 AM, soup wrote:There is simply no evidence that gender is any different from
On 30/12/2023 17:50, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
On 12/30/2023 9:41 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 08:09:59 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/29/2023 10:25 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:39:24 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>{snip}
Does that mean drag queens can use the men's or the ladies' as they >>>>>>>>> choose?
No. A drag queen's gender identity is male and they use the men's >>>>>>>> restroom. But, a person whose sex is male but gender identity is female
should be using the women's restroom (without exposing their genitals -
use a stall) because it's part of their treatment for gender dysphoria.
Innies to the right, outies to the left.
Why? No one is exposing their genitals. Why do you wish to harm trans >>>>>>>> people when no harm is done by allowing them to use the restroom that >>>>>>>> matches their gender identity.
No, the correct treatment for males trying to use female only
facilities and compete in female only athletics is to have their butts >>>>>>> kicked. Tar and feathering is correct for the second offence.
As Joel pointed out, your opinion results from ignorance.
Ignorance or a difference of opinion?
Certainly it's a difference of opinion. But, his opinion (gender
identity does not exist, those who claim to have a gender identity that >>>> doesn't match their sex are delusional) ignores research studies and
almost all of medical authorities.
Heck, even Republican governor Mike Dewine has paid attention to the data. >>>
biological sex, and there's is no research studies that prove
otherwise, nor can there be. Feeling like a woman does not turn a man
into woman any more than feeling like a duck makes water run off your
back.
Don't forget to wipe the sand off you face when you take breaks from
sticking head in it.
https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-well-being-of-transgender-people/
Good grief, don't you know that you can come up with a "study" to
"prove" anything you want to prove....
....and even if letting the sick individual act out his fantasies
makes him/her/it more comfortable with it would prove that it wasn't
simply a delusion.
On 12/30/2023 1:28 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 13:08:11 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2023 1:02 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 12:38:15 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2023 10:35 AM, soup wrote:
On 30/12/2023 17:50, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
On 12/30/2023 9:41 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 08:09:59 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/29/2023 10:25 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:39:24 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
{snip}
Does that mean drag queens can use the men's or the ladies' as they >>>>>>>>>> choose?
No. A drag queen's gender identity is male and they use the men's >>>>>>>>> restroom. But, a person whose sex is male but gender identity is female
should be using the women's restroom (without exposing their genitals -
use a stall) because it's part of their treatment for gender dysphoria.
Innies to the right, outies to the left.
Why? No one is exposing their genitals. Why do you wish to harm trans >>>>>>>>> people when no harm is done by allowing them to use the restroom that >>>>>>>>> matches their gender identity.
No, the correct treatment for males trying to use female only
facilities and compete in female only athletics is to have their butts >>>>>>>> kicked. Tar and feathering is correct for the second offence.
As Joel pointed out, your opinion results from ignorance.
Ignorance or a difference of opinion?
Certainly it's a difference of opinion. But, his opinion (gender
identity does not exist, those who claim to have a gender identity that >>>>> doesn't match their sex are delusional) ignores research studies and >>>>> almost all of medical authorities.
Heck, even Republican governor Mike Dewine has paid attention to the data.
There is simply no evidence that gender is any different from
biological sex, and there's is no research studies that prove
otherwise, nor can there be. Feeling like a woman does not turn a man
into woman any more than feeling like a duck makes water run off your
back.
Don't forget to wipe the sand off you face when you take breaks from
sticking head in it.
https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-well-being-of-transgender-people/
Good grief, don't you know that you can come up with a "study" to
"prove" anything you want to prove....
More sand to wipe off.
....and even if letting the sick individual act out his fantasies
makes him/her/it more comfortable with it would prove that it wasn't
simply a delusion.
If it were a delusion, then treating it as such would work.
When that
doesn't work, and treating it as real does, that's strong evidence
gender identity is real.
But by all means, keep your head down there.
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 13:37:30 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2023 1:28 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 13:08:11 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2023 1:02 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 12:38:15 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2023 10:35 AM, soup wrote:
On 30/12/2023 17:50, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
On 12/30/2023 9:41 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 08:09:59 -0800, Josh RosenbluthAs Joel pointed out, your opinion results from ignorance.
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/29/2023 10:25 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:39:24 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
{snip}
Does that mean drag queens can use the men's or the ladies' as they >>>>>>>>>>> choose?
No. A drag queen's gender identity is male and they use the men's >>>>>>>>>> restroom. But, a person whose sex is male but gender identity is female
should be using the women's restroom (without exposing their genitals -
use a stall) because it's part of their treatment for gender dysphoria.
Innies to the right, outies to the left.
Why? No one is exposing their genitals. Why do you wish to harm trans
people when no harm is done by allowing them to use the restroom that
matches their gender identity.
No, the correct treatment for males trying to use female only >>>>>>>>> facilities and compete in female only athletics is to have their butts
kicked. Tar and feathering is correct for the second offence. >>>>>>>>
Ignorance or a difference of opinion?
Certainly it's a difference of opinion. But, his opinion (gender
identity does not exist, those who claim to have a gender identity that >>>>>> doesn't match their sex are delusional) ignores research studies and >>>>>> almost all of medical authorities.
Heck, even Republican governor Mike Dewine has paid attention to the data.
There is simply no evidence that gender is any different from
biological sex, and there's is no research studies that prove
otherwise, nor can there be. Feeling like a woman does not turn a man >>>>> into woman any more than feeling like a duck makes water run off your >>>>> back.
Don't forget to wipe the sand off you face when you take breaks from
sticking head in it.
https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-well-being-of-transgender-people/
Good grief, don't you know that you can come up with a "study" to
"prove" anything you want to prove....
More sand to wipe off.
....and even if letting the sick individual act out his fantasies
makes him/her/it more comfortable with it would prove that it wasn't
simply a delusion.
If it were a delusion, then treating it as such would work.
Many "treatments" fail.
When that
doesn't work, and treating it as real does, that's strong evidence
gender identity is real.
Utter nonsense.... Does letting a person smell your ass because he
believes he's a dalmation prove that species identity is real? No, it
just proves that he/she/it is a fruitcake, and the person who lets him
smell their ass is a fruitcake. too
On 12/30/2023 1:48 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 13:37:30 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2023 1:28 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 13:08:11 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2023 1:02 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 12:38:15 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2023 10:35 AM, soup wrote:
On 30/12/2023 17:50, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
On 12/30/2023 9:41 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 08:09:59 -0800, Josh RosenbluthAs Joel pointed out, your opinion results from ignorance.
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/29/2023 10:25 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:39:24 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
{snip}
Does that mean drag queens can use the men's or the ladies' as they
choose?
No. A drag queen's gender identity is male and they use the men's >>>>>>>>>>> restroom. But, a person whose sex is male but gender identity is female
should be using the women's restroom (without exposing their genitals -
use a stall) because it's part of their treatment for gender dysphoria.
Innies to the right, outies to the left.
Why? No one is exposing their genitals. Why do you wish to harm trans
people when no harm is done by allowing them to use the restroom that
matches their gender identity.
No, the correct treatment for males trying to use female only >>>>>>>>>> facilities and compete in female only athletics is to have their butts
kicked. Tar and feathering is correct for the second offence. >>>>>>>>>
Ignorance or a difference of opinion?
Certainly it's a difference of opinion. But, his opinion (gender >>>>>>> identity does not exist, those who claim to have a gender identity that >>>>>>> doesn't match their sex are delusional) ignores research studies and >>>>>>> almost all of medical authorities.
Heck, even Republican governor Mike Dewine has paid attention to the data.
There is simply no evidence that gender is any different from
biological sex, and there's is no research studies that prove
otherwise, nor can there be. Feeling like a woman does not turn a man >>>>>> into woman any more than feeling like a duck makes water run off your >>>>>> back.
Don't forget to wipe the sand off you face when you take breaks from >>>>> sticking head in it.
https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-well-being-of-transgender-people/
Good grief, don't you know that you can come up with a "study" to
"prove" anything you want to prove....
More sand to wipe off.
....and even if letting the sick individual act out his fantasies
makes him/her/it more comfortable with it would prove that it wasn't
simply a delusion.
If it were a delusion, then treating it as such would work.
Many "treatments" fail.
When that
doesn't work, and treating it as real does, that's strong evidence
gender identity is real.
Utter nonsense.... Does letting a person smell your ass because he
believes he's a dalmation prove that species identity is real? No, it
just proves that he/she/it is a fruitcake, and the person who lets him
smell their ass is a fruitcake. too
If over 100,000 Americans 1) thought they were dogs, 2) suffered stress >because they weren't dogs, 3) could not be helped by treating it as a >delusion, and 4) were helped by treating it is real, then that would be >strong evidence species identity is real. None of those things are true,
of course. So, we go where the data leads us.
On 2023-12-30, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
This guy needs to read up on the multitude of factors involved in sex and
gender. It's not just two combinations, it's a spectrum.
It's bullshit.
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
Tell me you're not so stupid you think trans should be able to use any bathroom they want
whether they're transitioned or not?
I am definitely "so stupid", trans identified individuals are entitled
by the constitution to choose either bathroom, without regard to
transition status.
On 2023-12-31, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
On 30/12/2023 17:50, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
On 12/30/2023 9:41 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
the correct treatment for males trying to use female only
facilities and compete in female only athletics is to have their butts >>>> kicked. Tar and feathering is correct for the second offence.
As Joel pointed out, your opinion results from ignorance.
Ignorance or a difference of opinion?
Wrong opinions don't stop being wrong because wrong people believe
they're not wrong.
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2023 4:37 PM, Joel wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
Tell me you're not so stupid you think trans should be able to use any bathroom they want
whether they're transitioned or not?
I am definitely "so stupid", trans identified individuals are entitled
by the constitution to choose either bathroom, without regard to
transition status.
How so?
They have to be able to use their own judgment about what is most
comfortable and/or safe, for them in that specific place where the gender-specific bathrooms are located. As far as their transition
status, it is simply irrelevant to taking a piss.
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2023 4:37 PM, Joel wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
Tell me you're not so stupid you think trans should be able to use any bathroom they want
whether they're transitioned or not?
I am definitely "so stupid", trans identified individuals are entitled
by the constitution to choose either bathroom, without regard to
transition status.
How so?
They have to be able to use their own judgment about what is most
comfortable and/or safe, for them in that specific place where the >gender-specific bathrooms are located. As far as their transition
status, it is simply irrelevant to taking a piss.
On 2023-12-30, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
On 2023-12-30, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
This guy needs to read up on the multitude of factors involved in sex and >>>> gender. It's not just two combinations, it's a spectrum.
It's bullshit.
Nah, it's well proven by microbiology and human morphology. Sheet, you can >> find mentions of human hermaphrodites in the writings of Anais Nin :-D.
Why can't you accept known science on this topic?
You're almost never talking about hermaphrodites when your talking about "changing" gender these days. This is now a psychological issue (and a peer pressure issue) and should be dealt with in the brain, not by mutilating the body.
On 2023-12-31, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
On 2023-12-30, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
On 2023-12-30, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
This guy needs to read up on the multitude of factors involved in sex and
gender. It's not just two combinations, it's a spectrum.
It's bullshit.
Nah, it's well proven by microbiology and human morphology. Sheet, you can >>>> find mentions of human hermaphrodites in the writings of Anais Nin :-D. >>>>
Why can't you accept known science on this topic?
You're almost never talking about hermaphrodites when your talking about >>> "changing" gender these days. This is now a psychological issue (and a peer >>> pressure issue) and should be dealt with in the brain, not by mutilating the
body.
My mention of hermaphrodites was meant in part to be humorous.
A patient (and, if under 18, the parents) and his doctor are best equipped to
determine how a medical issue should be handled. You or I really have nothing
substantive to contribute there.
I know enough to know the differences between men and women.
And I also know that it's insane to push this crap on children.
What stupid thing you do to yourself as an adult is another matter.
Nothing can justify that position other than their provably wrong opinion that life really begins with conception
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 15:23:33 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in >>news:o0evoipa68k6omo2b141f65ssqluruvugo@4ax.com:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 03:04:12 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in >>>>news:1tauoi9q96p6o260jva5d1314q89ij1tba@4ax.com:
On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 03:01:13 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
Which of Trudeau's relatives has the tampon machine concession
for Canada's public offices?
Governments all over the world are offering them.
In mens' rooms?
https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/free-period-products-count >>>>>>ri es -cities-worldwide/
Personally I don't see a problem with it,
given the number of states and governments
handing out free condoms as well.
https://www.goodrx.com/health-topic/sexual-health/free-condoms
I don't see a problem with it at health clinics, in ladies' rooms
or at the doctor's office. But in men's rooms?
Sounds superfluous to me, but if women's
restrooms have condom machines, well...
https://daily49er.com/news/2016/02/09/students-get-free-condoms-in- >>>>university-student-union-bathrooms/
That isn't a sound analogy. Women can and should have condoms
available in case he doesn't have one. Are you saying men should
keep a tampon handy just in case they run into a woman who needs
one? And what sort of establishment would have tampons in the
men's' but not the ladies'?
I see no point in them being in
men's restrooms but I am not objecting
if they do.
Neither am I. My objection is to government *requiring* it.
Max Boot <max.boot@lathymes.com> wrote:
Nothing can justify that position other than their provably wrong opinion >>> that life really begins with conception
That's provably false. Life *absolutely* begins at conception. But that's the
wrong question. The proper question is, does *personhood* begin at conception?
In particular, if personhood begins at conception, is the entity a *full* person
with all the unalienable rights we think of born persons having? A sizable >> majority of Americans say no, and their position cannot just be ignored.
"Life" and "personhood" aren't meaningfully different in the context.
If a developing fetus has any real consciousness,
it unquestionably
has both life and personhood - fortunately, though, no one that I am
aware of is choosing to electively abort in the eighth month, even if
it's allowed.
Hartung says a person's right to life can be forfeited due to some heinous >> behavior. Other rights can be abridged by the state as long as due process of
law is observed. If rights can be lost, why would it not make sense to think >> that rights first have to be acquired, incrementally? Does a fetus at two weeks
have a right to keep and bear arms? A right to vote? In fact, we *do* think of
rights as being acquired incrementally. We don't even let 12-year-olds have guns
or vote.
The idea that a zygote/morula/blastocyst/fetus has an absolute and inviolable
right to life, in defiance of the woman's right to bodily autonomy — yes, there
absolutely is a right to bodily autonomy — strikes a majority of Americans as
simply wrong.
I would agree that the majority are pro-choice.
On 12/31/2023 11:49 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
news:2g63pit6d4fpu0h3071mcs1r4f06gp6hj7@4ax.com:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 15:23:33 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
news:o0evoipa68k6omo2b141f65ssqluruvugo@4ax.com:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 03:04:12 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1tauoi9q96p6o260jva5d1314q89ij1tba@4ax.com:
On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 03:01:13 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
Which of Trudeau's relatives has the tampon machine concession >>>>>>>>> for Canada's public offices?
Governments all over the world are offering them.
In mens' rooms?
https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/free-period-products-count >>>>>>>> ri es -cities-worldwide/
Personally I don't see a problem with it,
given the number of states and governments
handing out free condoms as well.
https://www.goodrx.com/health-topic/sexual-health/free-condoms
I don't see a problem with it at health clinics, in ladies' rooms >>>>>>> or at the doctor's office. But in men's rooms?
Sounds superfluous to me, but if women's
restrooms have condom machines, well...
https://daily49er.com/news/2016/02/09/students-get-free-condoms-in- >>>>>> university-student-union-bathrooms/
That isn't a sound analogy. Women can and should have condoms
available in case he doesn't have one. Are you saying men should
keep a tampon handy just in case they run into a woman who needs
one? And what sort of establishment would have tampons in the
men's' but not the ladies'?
I see no point in them being in
men's restrooms but I am not objecting
if they do.
Neither am I. My objection is to government *requiring* it.
I didn't catch that part.
Personally I would dispense with this
segregated restroom mentality altogether.
Long lines at the women's rooms while
the stalls in the mens room sit empty.
Who benefits from that? Same with outdoor
events, porta potties segregated by sex
even tho they are all identical inside.
What are you blabbering about? At places I've been in recent years, the portables are *not* segregated by sex.
Does anyone care about the gender of the
previous user? Makes no sense at all.
Which is why it doesn't happen.
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 08:09:59 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/29/2023 10:25 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:39:24 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
{snip}
Does that mean drag queens can use the men's or the ladies' as they choose? >>No. A drag queen's gender identity is male and they use the men's
restroom. But, a person whose sex is male but gender identity is female
should be using the women's restroom (without exposing their genitals -
use a stall) because it's part of their treatment for gender dysphoria.
Innies to the right, outies to the left.
Why? No one is exposing their genitals. Why do you wish to harm trans
people when no harm is done by allowing them to use the restroom that
matches their gender identity.
Will your tune change when rapists feigning gender dysphoria use it as an excuse to access
the ladies'?
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2023 8:14 PM, Joel wrote:
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2023 4:37 PM, Joel wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
Tell me you're not so stupid you think trans should be able to use any bathroom they want
whether they're transitioned or not?
I am definitely "so stupid", trans identified individuals are entitled >>>>> by the constitution to choose either bathroom, without regard to
transition status.
How so?
They have to be able to use their own judgment about what is most
comfortable and/or safe, for them in that specific place where the
gender-specific bathrooms are located. As far as their transition
status, it is simply irrelevant to taking a piss.
I understand your argument as a matter of policy. But, how are they
entitled to do so by the Constitution?
Well, it's at heart an equal protection issue - if a place has two
bathrooms, separated by male and female, that presents a unique
dilemma for a trans person, at least potentially; if they can't make
their own decision, using their judgment in the now, there's a
meaningful chance of having a very unfortunate situation, because of
the phobia of peeing around someone of the opposite sex (who I'm
reasonably sure also pees multiple times a day every day of their
life). We have to maximize comfort and safety in this setting, which
while mundane, does involve degrees of need for privacy.
So, more specifically, I think you'd go to the text in the
constitution that addresses the basis for equal protection of the law.
I mean, right now, we've had the overturning of the Roe/Casey
precedent, something that *very* directly derived from a clause in the
14th amendment that is *very* clear in its guarantee of the right to individual liberty - they can argue, of course, than a not yet born individual should have rights, too, but is that already the case after
six weeks, as some of the state laws try to make the cutoff? Nothing
can justify that position other than their provably wrong opinion that
life really begins with conception, and therefore their opinion sucks
dick, and should be rejected, and even mocked, for being so fucking
stupid.
Likewise, trans people do have a special need for protection here.
It's not always even possible to add another bathroom, to a place.
Let's have a policy that is brain-using enough to work this out.
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 15:23:33 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
I see no point in them being in
men's restrooms but I am not objecting
if they do.
Neither am I. My objection is to government *requiring* it.
Max Boot <max.boot@lathymes.com> wrote:
"Life" and "personhood" aren't meaningfully different in the context.Nothing can justify that position other than their provably wrong opinion >>>>> that life really begins with conception
That's provably false. Life *absolutely* begins at conception. But that's the
wrong question. The proper question is, does *personhood* begin at conception?
In particular, if personhood begins at conception, is the entity a *full* person
with all the unalienable rights we think of born persons having? A sizable >>>> majority of Americans say no, and their position cannot just be ignored. >>>
Of course they are.
The antiabortion people are using "life" to mean existence as a
person,
On 12/31/2023 12:05 PM, Joel wrote:
Max Boot <max.boot@lathymes.com> wrote:
"Life" and "personhood" aren't meaningfully different in the context.Nothing can justify that position other than their provably wrong opinion
that life really begins with conception
That's provably false. Life *absolutely* begins at conception. But that's the
wrong question. The proper question is, does *personhood* begin at conception?
In particular, if personhood begins at conception, is the entity a *full* >>>>> person
with all the unalienable rights we think of born persons having? A sizable
majority of Americans say no, and their position cannot just be ignored. >>>>
Of course they are.
The antiabortion people are using "life" to mean existence as a
person,
Bingo. While Rudy has a good argument that "life" and "personhood" are different
(I agree), the ordinary person likely makes no distinction and pro-lifers have
attempted to capitalize on it.
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
The
list of constitutionally-protected liberty rights is small
(contraception, marriage, formerly abortion). It is highly doubtful
using the bathroom of your choice will be added.
Equal protection would likely require recognizing gender identity as a
protected classification and arguing trans people are treated unequally
relative to cis people (only the latter can use the bathroom that
matches their gender identity). But, that's not the law as of now.
It hasn't been completely established in law but it is definitely our
goal for it to be, and there has been progress toward that.
On Saturday, December 30, 2023 at 5:46:49 AM UTC-5, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
…There's a very good reason for a woman to have a condom, Dumbass, but
absolutly no reason for a man to have a tampon.
”Hey Siri! Give me a phrase that will show us a man who’s never been married.”
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 23:14:01 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2023 4:37 PM, Joel wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
Tell me you're not so stupid you think trans should be able to use any bathroom they want
whether they're transitioned or not?
I am definitely "so stupid", trans identified individuals are entitled >>>>> by the constitution to choose either bathroom, without regard to
transition status.
How so?
They have to be able to use their own judgment about what is most >>>comfortable and/or safe, for them in that specific place where the >>>gender-specific bathrooms are located. As far as their transition >>>status, it is simply irrelevant to taking a piss.
So where is that "entitlement" specified in the Constitution, Dummy?
Oh *I'm* the dummy, retard? Who's the side that *always* rants about
*their* constitutional rights, but never acknowledges people just like
trans people who need theirs?
FUCK you. FUCK your cracker, DUMB ass.
Drop the fuck DEAD, white bitch.
On 12/31/2023 10:24 AM, Joel wrote:
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2023 8:14 PM, Joel wrote:
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2023 4:37 PM, Joel wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
Tell me you're not so stupid you think trans should be able to use any bathroom they want
whether they're transitioned or not?
I am definitely "so stupid", trans identified individuals are entitled >>>>>> by the constitution to choose either bathroom, without regard to
transition status.
How so?
They have to be able to use their own judgment about what is most
comfortable and/or safe, for them in that specific place where the
gender-specific bathrooms are located. As far as their transition
status, it is simply irrelevant to taking a piss.
I understand your argument as a matter of policy. But, how are they
entitled to do so by the Constitution?
Well, it's at heart an equal protection issue - if a place has two
bathrooms, separated by male and female, that presents a unique
dilemma for a trans person, at least potentially; if they can't make
their own decision, using their judgment in the now, there's a
meaningful chance of having a very unfortunate situation, because of
the phobia of peeing around someone of the opposite sex (who I'm
reasonably sure also pees multiple times a day every day of their
life). We have to maximize comfort and safety in this setting, which
while mundane, does involve degrees of need for privacy.
So, more specifically, I think you'd go to the text in the
constitution that addresses the basis for equal protection of the law.
I mean, right now, we've had the overturning of the Roe/Casey
precedent, something that *very* directly derived from a clause in the
14th amendment that is *very* clear in its guarantee of the right to
individual liberty - they can argue, of course, than a not yet born
individual should have rights, too, but is that already the case after
six weeks, as some of the state laws try to make the cutoff? Nothing
can justify that position other than their provably wrong opinion that
life really begins with conception, and therefore their opinion sucks
dick, and should be rejected, and even mocked, for being so fucking
stupid.
Likewise, trans people do have a special need for protection here.
It's not always even possible to add another bathroom, to a place.
Let's have a policy that is brain-using enough to work this out.
Roe/Casey were based on Due Process/liberty, not Equal Protection. The
list of constitutionally-protected liberty rights is small
(contraception, marriage, formerly abortion). It is highly doubtful
using the bathroom of your choice will be added.
Equal protection would likely require recognizing gender identity as a >protected classification and arguing trans people are treated unequally >relative to cis people (only the latter can use the bathroom that
matches their gender identity). But, that's not the law as of now.
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
trans identified individuals are entitled
by the constitution to choose either bathroom, without regard to >>>>>>> transition status.
How so?
They have to be able to use their own judgment about what is most
comfortable and/or safe, for them in that specific place where the
gender-specific bathrooms are located. As far as their transition
status, it is simply irrelevant to taking a piss.
I understand your argument as a matter of policy. But, how are they
entitled to do so by the Constitution?
Well, it's at heart an equal protection issue - if a place has two
bathrooms, separated by male and female, that presents a unique
dilemma for a trans person, at least potentially; if they can't make
their own decision, using their judgment in the now, there's a
meaningful chance of having a very unfortunate situation, because of
the phobia of peeing around someone of the opposite sex (who I'm
reasonably sure also pees multiple times a day every day of their
life). We have to maximize comfort and safety in this setting, which
while mundane, does involve degrees of need for privacy.
So, more specifically, I think you'd go to the text in the
constitution that addresses the basis for equal protection of the law.
I mean, right now, we've had the overturning of the Roe/Casey
precedent, something that *very* directly derived from a clause in the
14th amendment that is *very* clear in its guarantee of the right to
individual liberty - they can argue, of course, than a not yet born
individual should have rights, too, but is that already the case after
six weeks, as some of the state laws try to make the cutoff? Nothing
can justify that position other than their provably wrong opinion that
life really begins with conception, and therefore their opinion sucks
dick, and should be rejected, and even mocked, for being so fucking
stupid.
Likewise, trans people do have a special need for protection here.
It's not always even possible to add another bathroom, to a place.
Let's have a policy that is brain-using enough to work this out.
Roe/Casey were based on Due Process/liberty, not Equal Protection.
Do you think that might be why I said they derive from the 14th
amendment? It wasn't my claim that they were based in the same
precise reasoning as trans rights on this, but they are very
comparable, in how the text addresses more-specific rights that come
into question, that stem from the principles in the constitution.
The
list of constitutionally-protected liberty rights is small
(contraception, marriage, formerly abortion). It is highly doubtful
using the bathroom of your choice will be added.
Equal protection would likely require recognizing gender identity as a >>protected classification and arguing trans people are treated unequally >>relative to cis people (only the latter can use the bathroom that
matches their gender identity). But, that's not the law as of now.
It hasn't been completely established in law but it is definitely our
goal for it to be, and there has been progress toward that.
Equal protection means that females have a right to places and
athletic venues separate from males.
On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 15:35:32 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2023 2:49 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
{snip}
Equal protection means that females have a right to places and
athletic venues separate from males.
No, the Constitution does not demand that outcome.
We'll see..... Eventually, this gender nonsense is going to make it
to the SCOTUS.
On 12/31/2023 2:49 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
{snip}
Equal protection means that females have a right to places and
athletic venues separate from males.
No, the Constitution does not demand that outcome.
On 12/31/2023 3:56 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 15:35:32 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2023 2:49 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
{snip}
Equal protection means that females have a right to places and
athletic venues separate from males.
No, the Constitution does not demand that outcome.
We'll see..... Eventually, this gender nonsense is going to make it
to the SCOTUS.
No one has ever filed a lawsuit claiming the Constitution requires >sex-segregated sports or bathrooms. It's a matter for the elected
branches to decide the policy.
On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 12:04:37 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2023 8:39 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 08:09:59 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/29/2023 10:25 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:39:24 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>{snip}
Does that mean drag queens can use the men's or the ladies' as they choose?
No. A drag queen's gender identity is male and they use the men's
restroom. But, a person whose sex is male but gender identity is female >>>> should be using the women's restroom (without exposing their genitals - >>>> use a stall) because it's part of their treatment for gender dysphoria. >>>>
Innies to the right, outies to the left.
Why? No one is exposing their genitals. Why do you wish to harm trans
people when no harm is done by allowing them to use the restroom that
matches their gender identity.
Will your tune change when rapists feigning gender dysphoria use it as an excuse to access
the ladies'?
I would. But, it is very, very rare (likely because it is easy to see
they are faking it when they don't live their entire lives being trans).
So, will you now change your tune given the evidence.
Innies to the right, outies to the left.
On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 12:44:30 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2023 8:43 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 15:23:33 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
{snip}
I see no point in them being in
men's restrooms but I am not objecting
if they do.
Neither am I. My objection is to government *requiring* it.
I am unaware of any government that requires it. But, there are many
states that forbid it.
Canada does now or did you miss that part of the thread.
On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 12:42:13 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2023 10:24 AM, Joel wrote:
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2023 8:14 PM, Joel wrote:
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2023 4:37 PM, Joel wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
Tell me you're not so stupid you think trans should be able to use any bathroom they want
whether they're transitioned or not?
I am definitely "so stupid", trans identified individuals are entitled >>>>>>> by the constitution to choose either bathroom, without regard to >>>>>>> transition status.
How so?
They have to be able to use their own judgment about what is most
comfortable and/or safe, for them in that specific place where the
gender-specific bathrooms are located. As far as their transition
status, it is simply irrelevant to taking a piss.
I understand your argument as a matter of policy. But, how are they
entitled to do so by the Constitution?
Well, it's at heart an equal protection issue - if a place has two
bathrooms, separated by male and female, that presents a unique
dilemma for a trans person, at least potentially; if they can't make
their own decision, using their judgment in the now, there's a
meaningful chance of having a very unfortunate situation, because of
the phobia of peeing around someone of the opposite sex (who I'm
reasonably sure also pees multiple times a day every day of their
life). We have to maximize comfort and safety in this setting, which
while mundane, does involve degrees of need for privacy.
So, more specifically, I think you'd go to the text in the
constitution that addresses the basis for equal protection of the law.
I mean, right now, we've had the overturning of the Roe/Casey
precedent, something that *very* directly derived from a clause in the
14th amendment that is *very* clear in its guarantee of the right to
individual liberty - they can argue, of course, than a not yet born
individual should have rights, too, but is that already the case after
six weeks, as some of the state laws try to make the cutoff? Nothing
can justify that position other than their provably wrong opinion that
life really begins with conception, and therefore their opinion sucks
dick, and should be rejected, and even mocked, for being so fucking
stupid.
Likewise, trans people do have a special need for protection here.
It's not always even possible to add another bathroom, to a place.
Let's have a policy that is brain-using enough to work this out.
Roe/Casey were based on Due Process/liberty, not Equal Protection. The
list of constitutionally-protected liberty rights is small
(contraception, marriage, formerly abortion). It is highly doubtful
using the bathroom of your choice will be added.
Equal protection would likely require recognizing gender identity as a
protected classification and arguing trans people are treated unequally
relative to cis people (only the latter can use the bathroom that
matches their gender identity). But, that's not the law as of now.
Equal protection means that females have a right to places and
athletic venues separate from males.
On 12/31/2023 5:13 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 12:04:37 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2023 8:39 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 08:09:59 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/29/2023 10:25 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:39:24 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>{snip}
Does that mean drag queens can use the men's or the ladies' as they choose?
No. A drag queen's gender identity is male and they use the men's
restroom. But, a person whose sex is male but gender identity is female >>>>> should be using the women's restroom (without exposing their genitals - >>>>> use a stall) because it's part of their treatment for gender dysphoria. >>>>>
Innies to the right, outies to the left.
Why? No one is exposing their genitals. Why do you wish to harm trans >>>>> people when no harm is done by allowing them to use the restroom that >>>>> matches their gender identity.
Will your tune change when rapists feigning gender dysphoria use it as an >>>> excuse to access
the ladies'?
I would. But, it is very, very rare (likely because it is easy to see
they are faking it when they don't live their entire lives being trans). >>> So, will you now change your tune given the evidence.
Innies to the right, outies to the left.
WTF. Do you want to be a troll?
On 12/31/2023 11:49 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
news:2g63pit6d4fpu0h3071mcs1r4f06gp6hj7@4ax.com:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 15:23:33 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
news:o0evoipa68k6omo2b141f65ssqluruvugo@4ax.com:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 03:04:12 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1tauoi9q96p6o260jva5d1314q89ij1tba@4ax.com:
On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 03:01:13 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
Which of Trudeau's relatives has the tampon machine concession >>>>>>>>> for Canada's public offices?
Governments all over the world are offering them.
In mens' rooms?
https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/free-period-products-co >>>>>>>> unt ri es -cities-worldwide/
Personally I don't see a problem with it,
given the number of states and governments
handing out free condoms as well.
https://www.goodrx.com/health-topic/sexual-health/free-condoms
I don't see a problem with it at health clinics, in ladies'
rooms or at the doctor's office. But in men's rooms?
Sounds superfluous to me, but if women's
restrooms have condom machines, well...
https://daily49er.com/news/2016/02/09/students-get-free-condoms-in >>>>>> - university-student-union-bathrooms/
That isn't a sound analogy. Women can and should have condoms
available in case he doesn't have one. Are you saying men should
keep a tampon handy just in case they run into a woman who needs
one? And what sort of establishment would have tampons in the
men's' but not the ladies'?
I see no point in them being in
men's restrooms but I am not objecting
if they do.
Neither am I. My objection is to government *requiring* it.
I didn't catch that part.
Personally I would dispense with this
segregated restroom mentality altogether.
Long lines at the women's rooms while
the stalls in the mens room sit empty.
Who benefits from that? Same with outdoor
events, porta potties segregated by sex
even tho they are all identical inside.
What are you blabbering about? At places I've been in recent years,
the portables are *not* segregated by sex.
On 31/12/2023 14:42, -hh wrote:
On Saturday, December 30, 2023 at 5:46:49 AM UTC-5, Blue Lives Matter
wrote:
…There's a very good reason for a woman to have a condom, Dumbass, but
absolutly no reason for a man to have a tampon.
”Hey Siri! Give me a phrase that will show us a man who’s never been >> married.”
Are you insinuating that married men all carry about tampons as their wives may need them?
I am married and have never carried a tampon .
On 2023-12-31 4:57 p.m., soup wrote:
On 31/12/2023 14:42, -hh wrote:
On Saturday, December 30, 2023 at 5:46:49 AM UTC-5, Blue Lives Matter
wrote:
…There's a very good reason for a woman to have a condom, Dumbass, but
absolutly no reason for a man to have a tampon.
”Hey Siri! Give me a phrase that will show us a man who’s never been >>> married.”
Are you insinuating that married men all carry about tampons as their
wives may need them?
I am married and have never carried a tampon .
I've been married since 2009 and have never needed to carry a tampon. Unfortunately, the leftists our societies keep voting in are influenced
too heavily by people with obvious mental illnesses and they're too
cowardly to tell them that what they spout is complete bullshit.
soup wrote:I refer you to my previous answer.
On 31/12/2023 14:42, -hh wrote:
On Saturday, December 30, 2023 at 5:46:49 AM UTC-5, Blue Lives Matter
wrote:
…There's a very good reason for a woman to have a condom, Dumbass, but
absolutly no reason for a man to have a tampon.
”Hey Siri! Give me a phrase that will show us a man who’s never been >>> married.”
Are you insinuating that married men all carry about tampons as
their wives may need them?
I am married and have never carried a tampon .
i've never had any use for one myself ,
what kind of soup
RabidPedagog wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
On 2023-12-31 4:57 p.m., soup wrote:
On 31/12/2023 14:42, -hh wrote:
On Saturday, December 30, 2023 at 5:46:49 AM UTC-5, Blue Lives Matter >>>> wrote:
…There's a very good reason for a woman to have a condom, Dumbass, but >>>>> absolutly no reason for a man to have a tampon.
”Hey Siri! Give me a phrase that will show us a man who’s never been >>>> married.”
Are you insinuating that married men all carry about tampons as their >>> wives may need them?
I am married and have never carried a tampon .
I've been married since 2009 and have never needed to carry a tampon.
Unfortunately, the leftists our societies keep voting in are influenced
too heavily by people with obvious mental illnesses and they're too
cowardly to tell them that what they spout is complete bullshit.
From the Cleveland Clinic:
"People who are intersex have genitals, chromosomes or reproductive organs
that don't fit into a male/female sex binary. Their genitals might not match
their reproductive organs, or they may have traits of both. Being intersex
may be evident at birth, childhood, later in adulthood or never."
From the Cleveland Clinic:
"People who are intersex have genitals, chromosomes or reproductive organs
that don't fit into a male/female sex binary. Their genitals might not match
their reproductive organs, or they may have traits of both. Being intersex
may be evident at birth, childhood, later in adulthood or never."
On 2024-01-01, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-12-31 4:57 p.m., soup wrote:
On 31/12/2023 14:42, -hh wrote:
On Saturday, December 30, 2023 at 5:46:49 AM UTC-5, Blue Lives Matter >>>> wrote:
…There's a very good reason for a woman to have a condom, Dumbass, but >>>>> absolutly no reason for a man to have a tampon.
”Hey Siri! Give me a phrase that will show us a man who’s never been >>>> married.”
Are you insinuating that married men all carry about tampons as their >>> wives may need them?
I am married and have never carried a tampon .
I've been married since 2009 and have never needed to carry a tampon.
Unfortunately, the leftists our societies keep voting in are influenced
too heavily by people with obvious mental illnesses and they're too
cowardly to tell them that what they spout is complete bullshit.
Their mental illnesses (and their inability to deal logically with them) wouldn't be that big of a deal to me if they left children alone and didn't try to coerce me into their delusional world. Just because they have
trouble grasping the obvious doesn't mean they have to include me into their idiocy.
On 2024-01-01, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
RabidPedagog wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
On 2023-12-31 4:57 p.m., soup wrote:
On 31/12/2023 14:42, -hh wrote:
On Saturday, December 30, 2023 at 5:46:49 AM UTC-5, Blue Lives Matter >>>>> wrote:
…There's a very good reason for a woman to have a condom, Dumbass, but >>>>>> absolutly no reason for a man to have a tampon.
”Hey Siri! Give me a phrase that will show us a man who’s never been
married.”
Are you insinuating that married men all carry about tampons as their >>>> wives may need them?
I am married and have never carried a tampon .
I've been married since 2009 and have never needed to carry a tampon.
Unfortunately, the leftists our societies keep voting in are influenced
too heavily by people with obvious mental illnesses and they're too
cowardly to tell them that what they spout is complete bullshit.
From the Cleveland Clinic:
"People who are intersex have genitals, chromosomes or reproductive organs
that don't fit into a male/female sex binary. Their genitals might not match
their reproductive organs, or they may have traits of both. Being intersex
may be evident at birth, childhood, later in adulthood or never."
And how many of these people are joining in with the screeching transgender idiots, who try to force me to address them as "they" instead of he or she. Almost all "transgender" mutilations are done to people of one sex, delusioinally trying to become the other.
Or do you know of any man who has ever carried a baby to term in his non-womb? Just too stupid to take seriously and yet, in the most idiotic countries, like the Nordic ones, you can be put in jail for teaching that
men can't have babies. This is utter insanity.
I would think that, as a Catholic, you would exhibit some of the spirit of Jesus
and his "Golden Rule" for these people.
On 2024-01-01, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2024-01-01 12:37 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2024-01-01, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-12-31 4:57 p.m., soup wrote:
On 31/12/2023 14:42, -hh wrote:
On Saturday, December 30, 2023 at 5:46:49 AM UTC-5, Blue Lives Matter >>>>>> wrote:
…There's a very good reason for a woman to have a condom, Dumbass, but >>>>>>> absolutly no reason for a man to have a tampon.
”Hey Siri! Give me a phrase that will show us a man who’s never been
married.”
Are you insinuating that married men all carry about tampons as their
wives may need them?
I am married and have never carried a tampon .
I've been married since 2009 and have never needed to carry a tampon.
Unfortunately, the leftists our societies keep voting in are influenced >>>> too heavily by people with obvious mental illnesses and they're too
cowardly to tell them that what they spout is complete bullshit.
Their mental illnesses (and their inability to deal logically with them) >>> wouldn't be that big of a deal to me if they left children alone and didn't >>> try to coerce me into their delusional world. Just because they have
trouble grasping the obvious doesn't mean they have to include me into their
idiocy.
I'm a lot more radical than that. If I had tremendous political power,
I'd force these people into state-sponsored mental asylums where they
would be able to live a satisfying life of lobotomies and shock therapy,
whatever will convince men that they aren't women and the inverse. I
have no patience for these people and find them both repulsive and
reprehensible. To me, they are little more than beings possessed by
demons and evidence of the hold Satan has on society.
I'm aware that this will trigger Joel Crump and make him cry as he sucks
his next "girl cock." Nevertheless, I don't give a shit. I have no
tolerance for any modern interpretation of Christianity which suggests
that these demons have a soul too.
The insanity gets even more insane. Apparently morons in the state of New South Wales, Australia now want to ban the words "brother" and "sister" in official documents. You can't make up this asininity, it's just too stupid.
RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
On 2024-01-01, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
RabidPedagog wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
On 2023-12-31 4:57 p.m., soup wrote:
On 31/12/2023 14:42, -hh wrote:
On Saturday, December 30, 2023 at 5:46:49 AM UTC-5, Blue Lives Matter >>>>>> wrote:
…There's a very good reason for a woman to have a condom, Dumbass, but >>>>>>> absolutly no reason for a man to have a tampon.
”Hey Siri! Give me a phrase that will show us a man who’s never been
married.”
Are you insinuating that married men all carry about tampons as their >>>>> wives may need them?
I am married and have never carried a tampon .
I've been married since 2009 and have never needed to carry a tampon.
Unfortunately, the leftists our societies keep voting in are influenced >>>> too heavily by people with obvious mental illnesses and they're too
cowardly to tell them that what they spout is complete bullshit.
From the Cleveland Clinic:
"People who are intersex have genitals, chromosomes or reproductive organs
that don't fit into a male/female sex binary. Their genitals might not match
their reproductive organs, or they may have traits of both. Being intersex
may be evident at birth, childhood, later in adulthood or never."
And how many of these people are joining in with the screeching transgender >> idiots, who try to force me to address them as "they" instead of he or she. >> Almost all "transgender" mutilations are done to people of one sex,
delusioinally trying to become the other.
Or do you know of any man who has ever carried a baby to term in his
non-womb? Just too stupid to take seriously and yet, in the most idiotic
countries, like the Nordic ones, you can be put in jail for teaching that
men can't have babies. This is utter insanity.
I would think that, as a Catholic, you would exhibit some of the spirit of Jesus
and his "Golden Rule" for these people. As for the "policies", one can always find some entity proposing something silly. It's like DFS trolling for Linux "issues".
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
I would think that, as a Catholic, you would exhibit some of the spirit of Jesus
and his "Golden Rule" for these people.
They are the ones attacking us. They are the ones who want to control
us. They are the ones who want to indoctrinate our children into
their sick cult. They are the ones who not only want to be accepted,
but celebrated.
On 2024-01-02, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2024-01-01 11:25 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2024-01-01, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:However, this is the kind of garbage that the West has voted in. They
On 2024-01-01 12:37 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2024-01-01, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-12-31 4:57 p.m., soup wrote:
On 31/12/2023 14:42, -hh wrote:
On Saturday, December 30, 2023 at 5:46:49 AM UTC-5, Blue Lives Matter
wrote:
…There's a very good reason for a woman to have a condom, Dumbass, but >>>>>>>>> absolutly no reason for a man to have a tampon.
”Hey Siri! Give me a phrase that will show us a man who’s never been
married.”
Are you insinuating that married men all carry about tampons as their
wives may need them?
I am married and have never carried a tampon .
I've been married since 2009 and have never needed to carry a tampon. >>>>>> Unfortunately, the leftists our societies keep voting in are influenced >>>>>> too heavily by people with obvious mental illnesses and they're too >>>>>> cowardly to tell them that what they spout is complete bullshit.
Their mental illnesses (and their inability to deal logically with them) >>>>> wouldn't be that big of a deal to me if they left children alone and didn't
try to coerce me into their delusional world. Just because they have >>>>> trouble grasping the obvious doesn't mean they have to include me into their
idiocy.
I'm a lot more radical than that. If I had tremendous political power, >>>> I'd force these people into state-sponsored mental asylums where they
would be able to live a satisfying life of lobotomies and shock therapy, >>>> whatever will convince men that they aren't women and the inverse. I
have no patience for these people and find them both repulsive and
reprehensible. To me, they are little more than beings possessed by
demons and evidence of the hold Satan has on society.
I'm aware that this will trigger Joel Crump and make him cry as he sucks >>>> his next "girl cock." Nevertheless, I don't give a shit. I have no
tolerance for any modern interpretation of Christianity which suggests >>>> that these demons have a soul too.
The insanity gets even more insane. Apparently morons in the state of New >>> South Wales, Australia now want to ban the words "brother" and "sister" in >>> official documents. You can't make up this asininity, it's just too stupid. >>
received a ton of warnings that the left had no respect for democracy,
wanted to push a divide between races, religions and sexes and would
spend the people's money as if it were their own bank account. However,
they did not care because those leftist politicians promised them that
they too would get some free stuff in the form of table scraps.
We didn't vote this in. Our votes mean nothing, as they make it up as they go. Until we have paper ballots and real accountability every election can (and probably will) be stolen. Look what Russia does. Paper ballots in clear plastic ballot boxes, with a camera focused on each ballot box. Nothing AT ALL like that in the U.S.
Honestly, I blame young White women. The moment they enter College,
their naivety becomes their downfall and they believe every word of what
their Communist sympathizer professor tells them. They then spend the
next two decades favouring whichever politician leans most heavily
toward Marxism. Only once they are 40, alone and miserable do they
realize that their feminism, atheism and socialism were the causes. A
woman I've known since she was 12 is the perfect example of this. She
spent 27 years sleeping around, chasing career and the illusion that
only Prince Charming was deserving of her cunt. Then, at 39, when she
realized that everybody around but her was happy with their families and
husbands, she decided to get herself impregnated by some stranger and
become a single mother. I'm sure that decision won't come back to bite
her in her ever-expanding ass.
Kids don't have anything to anchor to any more. So they float on the tide
and allow themselves to navigate by emotion rather than logic.
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
I would think that, as a Catholic, you would exhibit some of the spirit of Jesus
and his "Golden Rule" for these people.
They are the ones attacking us. They are the ones who want to control
us. They are the ones who want to indoctrinate our children into
their sick cult. They are the ones who not only want to be accepted,
but celebrated.
On 2024-01-02 7:27 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
I would think that, as a Catholic, you would exhibit some of the spirit of Jesus
and his "Golden Rule" for these people. As for the "policies", one can always
find some entity proposing something silly. It's like DFS trolling for Linux >> "issues".
Contrary to what the Jewish media has taught you, Jesus Christ was not
about tolerating faggots.
chrisv wrote:
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
I would think that, as a Catholic, you would exhibit some of the spirit of Jesus
and his "Golden Rule" for these people.
They are the ones attacking us. They are the ones who want to control
us. They are the ones who want to indoctrinate our children into
their sick cult. They are the ones who not only want to be accepted,
but celebrated.
Ah, the old "indoctrination" canard. Reminds me of the anti-drag hysteria
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
chrisv wrote:
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
I would think that, as a Catholic, you would exhibit some of the spirit of Jesus
and his "Golden Rule" for these people.
They are the ones attacking us. They are the ones who want to control
us. They are the ones who want to indoctrinate our children into
their sick cult. They are the ones who not only want to be accepted,
but celebrated.
Ah, the old "indoctrination" canard. Reminds me of the anti-drag hysteria
What would you call telling little kids that what the doctor "guessed"
they were, at birth, might not be correct? That girls can have
penises and boys can have vaginas?
How about when the radical leftist running the schools support "social transitions" at school but won't inform the parents?
What do the words boy and girl, mean, exactly? I know what they have
always meant, and still do today.
On 2024-01-02, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2024-01-02 9:10 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2024-01-02, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2024-01-01 11:25 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2024-01-01, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2024-01-01 12:37 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2024-01-01, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-12-31 4:57 p.m., soup wrote:Their mental illnesses (and their inability to deal logically with them)
On 31/12/2023 14:42, -hh wrote:
On Saturday, December 30, 2023 at 5:46:49 AM UTC-5, Blue Lives Matter
wrote:
…There's a very good reason for a woman to have a condom, Dumbass, but
absolutly no reason for a man to have a tampon.
”Hey Siri! Give me a phrase that will show us a man who’s never been
married.”
Are you insinuating that married men all carry about tampons as their
wives may need them?
I am married and have never carried a tampon .
I've been married since 2009 and have never needed to carry a tampon. >>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the leftists our societies keep voting in are influenced
too heavily by people with obvious mental illnesses and they're too >>>>>>>> cowardly to tell them that what they spout is complete bullshit. >>>>>>>
wouldn't be that big of a deal to me if they left children alone and didn't
try to coerce me into their delusional world. Just because they have >>>>>>> trouble grasping the obvious doesn't mean they have to include me into their
idiocy.
I'm a lot more radical than that. If I had tremendous political power, >>>>>> I'd force these people into state-sponsored mental asylums where they >>>>>> would be able to live a satisfying life of lobotomies and shock therapy, >>>>>> whatever will convince men that they aren't women and the inverse. I >>>>>> have no patience for these people and find them both repulsive and >>>>>> reprehensible. To me, they are little more than beings possessed by >>>>>> demons and evidence of the hold Satan has on society.
I'm aware that this will trigger Joel Crump and make him cry as he sucks >>>>>> his next "girl cock." Nevertheless, I don't give a shit. I have no >>>>>> tolerance for any modern interpretation of Christianity which suggests >>>>>> that these demons have a soul too.
The insanity gets even more insane. Apparently morons in the state of New >>>>> South Wales, Australia now want to ban the words "brother" and "sister" in
official documents. You can't make up this asininity, it's just too stupid.
However, this is the kind of garbage that the West has voted in. They
received a ton of warnings that the left had no respect for democracy, >>>> wanted to push a divide between races, religions and sexes and would
spend the people's money as if it were their own bank account. However, >>>> they did not care because those leftist politicians promised them that >>>> they too would get some free stuff in the form of table scraps.
We didn't vote this in. Our votes mean nothing, as they make it up as they >>> go. Until we have paper ballots and real accountability every election can >>> (and probably will) be stolen. Look what Russia does. Paper ballots in clear
plastic ballot boxes, with a camera focused on each ballot box. Nothing AT >>> ALL like that in the U.S.
Of course not, because such a thing would somehow be racist.
Honestly, I blame young White women. The moment they enter College,
their naivety becomes their downfall and they believe every word of what >>>> their Communist sympathizer professor tells them. They then spend the
next two decades favouring whichever politician leans most heavily
toward Marxism. Only once they are 40, alone and miserable do they
realize that their feminism, atheism and socialism were the causes. A
woman I've known since she was 12 is the perfect example of this. She
spent 27 years sleeping around, chasing career and the illusion that
only Prince Charming was deserving of her cunt. Then, at 39, when she
realized that everybody around but her was happy with their families and >>>> husbands, she decided to get herself impregnated by some stranger and
become a single mother. I'm sure that decision won't come back to bite >>>> her in her ever-expanding ass.
Kids don't have anything to anchor to any more. So they float on the tide >>> and allow themselves to navigate by emotion rather than logic.
Which would explain why they're such pussies and obese by the age of 14.
Yep. They're trying to turn girls into shrill, little boys and boys into whimpering little sooks. But my son tells me that the newest generation of school kids are rebelling against this Woke bullshit. If true, I can understand why, the Woke morons have lost all sense of proportion. They keep trying to lather on the lying Woke bullshit thicker and thicker. Naturally kids will rebel against that. I hope my son has it right. I'm extremely
happy that none of my kids went to public schools. They missed all their brainwashing sessions.
chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
I would think that, as a Catholic, you would exhibit some of the spirit of Jesus
and his "Golden Rule" for these people.
They are the ones attacking us. They are the ones who want to control
us. They are the ones who want to indoctrinate our children into
their sick cult. They are the ones who not only want to be accepted,
but celebrated.
Ah, the old "indoctrination" canard. Reminds me of the anti-drag hysteria.
RabidPedagog wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
On 2024-01-02 7:27 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
I would think that, as a Catholic, you would exhibit some of the spirit of Jesus
and his "Golden Rule" for these people. As for the "policies", one can always
find some entity proposing something silly. It's like DFS trolling for Linux
"issues".
Contrary to what the Jewish media has taught you, Jesus Christ was not
about tolerating faggots.
Actually, Jesus did not tolerate "sinners". He *loved* them.
No "Jewish media" has taught me anything. I actually grew up Catholic and in grade school we attended Mass every day and had Bible classes every day.
Let's hope the fortune below is correct.
chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
chrisv wrote:What would you call telling little kids that what the doctor "guessed"
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
I would think that, as a Catholic, you would exhibit some of the spirit of Jesus
and his "Golden Rule" for these people.
They are the ones attacking us. They are the ones who want to control >>>> us. They are the ones who want to indoctrinate our children into
their sick cult. They are the ones who not only want to be accepted,
but celebrated.
Ah, the old "indoctrination" canard. Reminds me of the anti-drag hysteria >>
they were, at birth, might not be correct? That girls can have
penises and boys can have vaginas?
Did you even bother to read the quotation concerning "intersex"?
How about when the radical leftist running the schools support "social
transitions" at school but won't inform the parents?
That would be bad, but how often are there "radical leftists" running schools in Puritan America? And how often are the parents left out of the equation?
What do the words boy and girl, mean, exactly? I know what they have
always meant, and still do today.
Generally the terms are easily applied. In some cases they are not. That's simply a biological and social fact.
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
chrisv wrote:
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
I would think that, as a Catholic, you would exhibit some of the spirit of Jesus
and his "Golden Rule" for these people.
They are the ones attacking us. They are the ones who want to control
us. They are the ones who want to indoctrinate our children into
their sick cult. They are the ones who not only want to be accepted,
but celebrated.
Ah, the old "indoctrination" canard. Reminds me of the anti-drag hysteria
What would you call telling little kids that what the doctor "guessed"
they were, at birth, might not be correct? That girls can have
penises and boys can have vaginas?
How about when the radical leftist running the schools support "social transitions" at school but won't inform the parents?
What do the words boy and girl, mean, exactly? I know what they have
always meant, and still do today.
On 2024-01-02, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
RabidPedagog wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
On 2024-01-02 7:27 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
I would think that, as a Catholic, you would exhibit some of the spirit of Jesus
and his "Golden Rule" for these people. As for the "policies", one can always
find some entity proposing something silly. It's like DFS trolling for Linux
"issues".
Contrary to what the Jewish media has taught you, Jesus Christ was not
about tolerating faggots.
Actually, Jesus did not tolerate "sinners". He *loved* them.
He loved them enough to tell them they would go to hell if they didn't repent. That's what true love is. "Take up your cross and follow me." Not "Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die."
1 I BESEECH you therefore, brethren, by the mercy of God, that you present
your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, pleasing unto God, your reasonable
service. 2 And be not conformed to this world; but be reformed in the
newness of your mind, that you may prove what is the good, and the
acceptable, and the perfect will of God. — Romans 12
6 Whosoever abideth in him, sinneth not; and whosoever sinneth, hath not
seen him, nor known him. 7 Little children, let no man deceive you. He
that doth justice is just, even as he is just. 8 He that committeth sin is
of the devil: for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose,
the Son of God appeared, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9
Whosoever is born of God, committeth not sin: for his seed abideth in him,
and he can not sin, because he is born of God. 10 In this the children of
God are manifest, and the children of the devil. Whosoever is not just, is
not of God, nor he that loveth not his brother. — I John 3
How many times did Jesus say, "Go forth and sin no more?" He loved sinners and died to save their souls but if they persist in sin, they will be judged guilty.
31 Wherefore you are witnesses against yourselves, that you are the sons
of them that killed the prophets. 32 Fill ye up then the measure of your
fathers. 33 You serpents, generation of vipers, how will you flee from
the judgment of hell? 34 Therefore behold I send to you prophets, and
wise men, and scribes: and some of them you will put to death and
crucify, and some you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from
city to city: 35 That upon you may come all the just blood that hath
been shed upon the earth, from the blood of Abel the just, even unto the
blood of Zacharias the son of Barachias, whom you killed between the
temple and the altar.
36 Amen I say to you, all these things shall come upon this generation. 37
Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them
that are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered together thy
children, as the hen doth gather her chickens under her wings, and thou
wouldest not? 38 Behold, your house shall be left to you, desolate. 39 For
I say to you, you shall not see me henceforth till you say: Blessed is he
that cometh in the name of the Lord. — Matthew 23
Christ loved sinners and wanted to heal them. But he did not tolerate their sins. And if they persisted in those sins they would be damned.
3 And (Jesus) said: Amen I say to you, unless you be converted, and become
as little children, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. 4
Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, he is the
greater in the kingdom of heaven. 5 And he that shall receive one such
little child in my name, receiveth me.
6 But he that shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in
me, it were better for him that a millstone should be hanged about his
neck, and that he should be drowned in the depth of the sea. 7 Woe to the
world because of scandals. For it must needs be that scandals come: but
nevertheless woe to that man by whom the scandal cometh. — Matthew 18
Those who destroy the innocence of children are the scum of the earth. God will not forget.
On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 17:26:36 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2023 5:13 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 12:04:37 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2023 8:39 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 08:09:59 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/29/2023 10:25 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:39:24 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>{snip}
Does that mean drag queens can use the men's or the ladies' as they choose?
No. A drag queen's gender identity is male and they use the men's
restroom. But, a person whose sex is male but gender identity is female >>>>>> should be using the women's restroom (without exposing their genitals - >>>>>> use a stall) because it's part of their treatment for gender dysphoria. >>>>>>
Innies to the right, outies to the left.
Why? No one is exposing their genitals. Why do you wish to harm trans >>>>>> people when no harm is done by allowing them to use the restroom that >>>>>> matches their gender identity.
Will your tune change when rapists feigning gender dysphoria use it as an excuse to access
the ladies'?
I would. But, it is very, very rare (likely because it is easy to see
they are faking it when they don't live their entire lives being trans). >>>> So, will you now change your tune given the evidence.
Innies to the right, outies to the left.
WTF. Do you want to be a troll?
WTF. Can you not read English?
On 2024-01-02 4:16 p.m., RonB wrote:
<extensive Bible quotes snipped>
Those who destroy the innocence of children are the scum of the earth. God >> will not forget.
It looks like RonB just schooled Chris Ahlstrom on our common religion.
On 2024-01-02, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
I would think that, as a Catholic, you would exhibit some of the spirit of Jesus
and his "Golden Rule" for these people.
They are the ones attacking us. They are the ones who want to control
us. They are the ones who want to indoctrinate our children into
their sick cult. They are the ones who not only want to be accepted,
but celebrated.
Ah, the old "indoctrination" canard. Reminds me of the anti-drag hysteria.
Yeah because organized drag queen "story hour" doesn't exist. It's all made up. Never mind that it isn't as numerous articles clearly show. And forcing kids to use Woke bullshit terms like one of the many asinine made up "genders" doesn't exist either. Right? If you're that gullible, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn you may be interested in buying.
Sorry, Chris but your bullshit "canard" claim is the lying canard pushed by the Woke liars when they get caught pushing their crap on kids. Sending your kids to public school now is child abuse. Convincing kids to mutilate themselves (to "change genders") when they haven't even reached puberty is sickening. Actually satanic — destroying childhood innocence. Anyone pushes this crap on kids is a vile slimeball.
Did you even bother to read the quotation concerning "intersex"?
How about when the radical leftist running the schools support "social
transitions" at school but won't inform the parents?
That would be bad, but how often are there "radical leftists" running schools
in Puritan America? And how often are the parents left out of the equation?
Often, and they call security or the police to escort the parents who >question this stuff out.
On 2024-01-03, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2024-01-02 3:11 p.m., chrisv wrote:
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
chrisv wrote:What would you call telling little kids that what the doctor "guessed"
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
I would think that, as a Catholic, you would exhibit some of the spirit of Jesus
and his "Golden Rule" for these people.
They are the ones attacking us. They are the ones who want to control >>>>> us. They are the ones who want to indoctrinate our children into
their sick cult. They are the ones who not only want to be accepted, >>>>> but celebrated.
Ah, the old "indoctrination" canard. Reminds me of the anti-drag hysteria >>>
they were, at birth, might not be correct? That girls can have
penises and boys can have vaginas?
How about when the radical leftist running the schools support "social
transitions" at school but won't inform the parents?
What do the words boy and girl, mean, exactly? I know what they have
always meant, and still do today.
+1
David Chappelle has got the Woke up in arms again over his latest special.
'Activists' Infuriated As Dave Chappelle Explains Transgender Position In
New Special
If everyone pretends that the emperor has clothes when he's naked, does
that mean he's not naked? All it takes is one person to point out reality
and break the collectively enabled delusion, so everyone must play along.
Why? Because the delusion makes the emperor feel special and appeases his
entitlement - Anger the emperor and he might make the whole nation
miserable. Just play along, what could it hurt?
The trans movement exists in this kind of bubble, a place where objective
truth is no longer welcome and cognitive dissonance is encouraged for the
sake of comfort. And much like any oppressive environment the more people
self censor to avoid rocking the boat the harder it is for individuals to
speak their minds. This is how consent is manufactured; by creating the
illusion of consensus.
Dave Chappelle is one of the few entertainers in the Hollywood arena
that's willing to point out when the emperor has no clothes, which is why
the political left hates him with a seething passion. Despite their
consistent attempts to cancel his career, Chappelle is back with another
Netflix special called 'The Dreamer.' The comedian opens with guns
blazing on the trans agenda...
[video clip from his special hosted on X (Twitter)]
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1741856584622371024
...infuriating the access media yet again. The accusations are flying
that Chappelle likes to "punch down" which he hilariously mentions in
the special as his favorite comedic pastime.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-dave-chappelle-exposes-collective-delusions-transgenderism-new-special
The last line is the punch line.
RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
On 2024-01-02, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:Yeah because organized drag queen "story hour" doesn't exist. It's all made >> up. Never mind that it isn't as numerous articles clearly show. And forcing >> kids to use Woke bullshit terms like one of the many asinine made up
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
I would think that, as a Catholic, you would exhibit some of the spirit of Jesus
and his "Golden Rule" for these people.
They are the ones attacking us. They are the ones who want to control >>>> us. They are the ones who want to indoctrinate our children into
their sick cult. They are the ones who not only want to be accepted,
but celebrated.
Ah, the old "indoctrination" canard. Reminds me of the anti-drag hysteria. >>
"genders" doesn't exist either. Right? If you're that gullible, I've got a >> bridge in Brooklyn you may be interested in buying.
Sorry, Chris but your bullshit "canard" claim is the lying canard pushed by >> the Woke liars when they get caught pushing their crap on kids. Sending your >> kids to public school now is child abuse. Convincing kids to mutilate
themselves (to "change genders") when they haven't even reached puberty is >> sickening. Actually satanic — destroying childhood innocence. Anyone pushes
this crap on kids is a vile slimeball.
I invite you to rejoin reality. Sheesh.
Fuckin' Trump supporter.
On 2024-01-03, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
On 2024-01-02, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:Yeah because organized drag queen "story hour" doesn't exist. It's all made >>> up. Never mind that it isn't as numerous articles clearly show. And forcing >>> kids to use Woke bullshit terms like one of the many asinine made up
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
I would think that, as a Catholic, you would exhibit some of the spirit of Jesus
and his "Golden Rule" for these people.
They are the ones attacking us. They are the ones who want to control >>>>> us. They are the ones who want to indoctrinate our children into
their sick cult. They are the ones who not only want to be accepted, >>>>> but celebrated.
Ah, the old "indoctrination" canard. Reminds me of the anti-drag hysteria. >>>
"genders" doesn't exist either. Right? If you're that gullible, I've got a >>> bridge in Brooklyn you may be interested in buying.
Sorry, Chris but your bullshit "canard" claim is the lying canard pushed by >>> the Woke liars when they get caught pushing their crap on kids. Sending your
kids to public school now is child abuse. Convincing kids to mutilate
themselves (to "change genders") when they haven't even reached puberty is >>> sickening. Actually satanic — destroying childhood innocence. Anyone pushes
this crap on kids is a vile slimeball.
I invite you to rejoin reality. Sheesh.
You really don't want to deal with reality, do you? Whether you want to believe it or not, there really is diabolical evil in the world. The very worst of it (in my opinion) are the assaults against children by sadistic perverts.
On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 18:27:15 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/2/2024 5:40 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 17:26:36 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2023 5:13 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 12:04:37 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2023 8:39 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 08:09:59 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 12/29/2023 10:25 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:39:24 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>{snip}
Does that mean drag queens can use the men's or the ladies' as they choose?
No. A drag queen's gender identity is male and they use the men's >>>>>>>> restroom. But, a person whose sex is male but gender identity is female
should be using the women's restroom (without exposing their genitals -
use a stall) because it's part of their treatment for gender dysphoria.
Innies to the right, outies to the left.
Why? No one is exposing their genitals. Why do you wish to harm trans >>>>>>>> people when no harm is done by allowing them to use the restroom that >>>>>>>> matches their gender identity.
Will your tune change when rapists feigning gender dysphoria use it as an excuse to access
the ladies'?
I would. But, it is very, very rare (likely because it is easy to see >>>>>> they are faking it when they don't live their entire lives being trans). >>>>>> So, will you now change your tune given the evidence.
Innies to the right, outies to the left.
WTF. Do you want to be a troll?
WTF. Can you not read English?
I made an argument and you replied by repeating your position rather
than making a counter argument for why your position is correct. That's
what a troll does.
Innies to the right, outies to the left. Solves everything.
The problem is I'm talking about parents, doctors, and kids
trying to find a way to have them live without thoughts of suicide.
no harm is done by allowing them to use
the restroom that matches their gender identity.
Females do not have a right to
penis-free bathrooms in frequented zones. That would be transphobic.
Deal with it.
On 2024-01-03, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
Well d-uhhhh. The problem is I'm talking about parents, doctors, and kids
trying to find a way to have them live without thoughts of suicide.
"Sex change" mutilations aren't the answer. You can't change your sex no matter how much your mutilate yourself. Your sex is coded in your DNA.
RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
On 2024-01-03, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
Well d-uhhhh. The problem is I'm talking about parents, doctors, and kids >>> trying to find a way to have them live without thoughts of suicide.
"Sex change" mutilations aren't the answer. You can't change your sex no
matter how much your mutilate yourself. Your sex is coded in your DNA.
Mutilation? With hormones? Under medical care?
And in some cases the sex is ambiguous... as coded in their DNA.
And in some cases the sex is ambiguous... as coded in their DNA.
That is laughable as a source, come on.
RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
<https://wng.org/roundups/study-effects-of-puberty-blockers-can-last-a-lifetime-1617220389>
That is laughable as a source, come on.
chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
some idiot wrote:
no harm is done by allowing them to use
the restroom that matches their gender identity.
Yeah there is. Women don't want male perverts in their bathrooms.
They don't want to undress infront of intact males, like "Lia" Thomas,
in their locker rooms.
Why are their feelings less important than the pervert's?
Why are you calling transgender women "perverts", you fucking dumbshit
pig?
You are transparently the type who will roll over and let Trump
be the dictator, a pathetic wuss.
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
The problem is I'm talking about parents, doctors, and kids
trying to find a way to have them live without thoughts of suicide.
That's done by treating their mential illnesses and getting them to
accept themselves, not "affirming" some lie and declaring war on their
bodies by way of "puberty blockers" and hormones.
Seriously, did you know that it is essentially *forbidden*, now, for a >doctor/physiatrist/counselor to *not* "affirm" identity confusion?
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
Females do not have a right to
penis-free bathrooms in frequented zones. That would be transphobic. >>>Deal with it.
Hopefully, we'll have more and more "transphobic" laws in the future.
https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-HEALTHCARE/TRANS-BILLS/zgvorreyapd/
Keep the freaks in their own lane.
You're human garbage, and I hope you are hit by a bus.
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
And in some cases the sex is ambiguous... as coded in their DNA.
Again this nonsense.
Again, physical defects are not what anyone is
talking about.
chrisv wrote:
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
The problem is I'm talking about parents, doctors, and kids
trying to find a way to have them live without thoughts of suicide.
That's done by treating their mential illnesses and getting them to
accept themselves, not "affirming" some lie and declaring war on their >>bodies by way of "puberty blockers" and hormones.
Seriously, did you know that it is essentially *forbidden*, now, for a >>doctor/physiatrist/counselor to *not* "affirm" identity confusion?
Note: No response.
Of course, no decent person could defend the current practices.
After all, there is no doubt that *some* (most) of these young people are simply confused, or are victims of a social contagion, and are going through a phase on the way to normalcy.
There is no doubt that *some* (most) of these young people need to hear the word "no".
Uh, you do realize that everything about a person is determined by physical >or biochemical factors?
Ever heard of brain MRI's?
Stop trying to pin things on "mental illness".
On 2024-01-04, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
On 2024-01-03, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
Well d-uhhhh. The problem is I'm talking about parents, doctors, and kids >>>> trying to find a way to have them live without thoughts of suicide.
"Sex change" mutilations aren't the answer. You can't change your sex no >>> matter how much your mutilate yourself. Your sex is coded in your DNA.
Mutilation? With hormones? Under medical care?
Yes, mutilation. When parts of a human body are hacked off in a delusional attempt to change someone's sex – that's mutilation. Hormone blocking to "delay" natural development for boys and girls. Anything that blocks natural development is dangerous.
"Under medical care," by a moron who will do just about anything for money. Fortunately some of these quacks are starting to get sued. Those suing them (who have regretted their irreversible mutilation surgery) say that the doctors
SHOULD have (at least) suggested counseling before the mutilation.
And in some cases the sex is ambiguous... as coded in their DNA.
When you're talking about hermaphrodites, you'll find that doctors traditionally tried to make the best decision they could when the child was born. It turns out that wasn't always a good idea. Apparently they are now advocating waiting until the child reaches puberty and allowing them to make the choice.
So we currently have this situation. For the hermaphrodite (small number who really do have sexual "ambiguity") it is best to wait for puberty. For children who are physically normal, the idiots are advocating puberty blockers and hormone treatments BEFORE they even reach puberty.
If this makes any sense at all to you, then you're not thinking very clearly.
That is addressing people who were preemptively offered care,
specifically outside the established protocols, obviously unethical
and poorly informed professionals can bork this, it doesn't mean that
trans people don't exist.
I'm as skeptical as the next person about
the necessity of some aspects of gender-affirming care, but for kids
who have been through the process correctly, who understand what
they're getting into, it saves lives.
On 2024-01-04, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2024-01-04, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
On 2024-01-03, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
Well d-uhhhh. The problem is I'm talking about parents, doctors, and kids >>>>> trying to find a way to have them live without thoughts of suicide.
"Sex change" mutilations aren't the answer. You can't change your sex no >>>> matter how much your mutilate yourself. Your sex is coded in your DNA.
Mutilation? With hormones? Under medical care?
Yes, mutilation. When parts of a human body are hacked off in a delusional >> attempt to change someone's sex – that's mutilation. Hormone blocking to >> "delay" natural development for boys and girls. Anything that blocks natural >> development is dangerous.
"Under medical care," by a moron who will do just about anything for money. >> Fortunately some of these quacks are starting to get sued. Those suing them >> (who have regretted their irreversible mutilation surgery) say that the doctors
SHOULD have (at least) suggested counseling before the mutilation.
And in some cases the sex is ambiguous... as coded in their DNA.
When you're talking about hermaphrodites, you'll find that doctors
traditionally tried to make the best decision they could when the child was >> born. It turns out that wasn't always a good idea. Apparently they are now >> advocating waiting until the child reaches puberty and allowing them to make >> the choice.
So we currently have this situation. For the hermaphrodite (small number who >> really do have sexual "ambiguity") it is best to wait for puberty. For
children who are physically normal, the idiots are advocating puberty
blockers and hormone treatments BEFORE they even reach puberty.
If this makes any sense at all to you, then you're not thinking very clearly.
<https://www.heritage.org/gender/commentary/does-gender-affirming-care-trans-kids-actually-prevent-
suicide-heres-what-the>
Of course, no decent person could defend the current practices.
There are a wide range of current practices.
Yes, mutilation. When parts of a human body are hacked off in a delusional attempt to change someone's sex – that's mutilation. Hormone blocking to "delay" natural development for boys and girls. Anything that blocks natural development is dangerous.
"Under medical care," by a moron who will do just about anything for money. Fortunately some of these quacks are starting to get sued. Those suing them (who have regretted their irreversible mutilation surgery) say that the doctors
SHOULD have (at least) suggested counseling before the mutilation.
And in some cases the sex is ambiguous... as coded in their DNA.
If this makes any sense at all to you, then you're not thinking very clearly.
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
Uh, you do realize that everything about a person is determined by physical >>or biochemical factors?
You mean like overies and testicles, which in turn produce hormones
which shape our bodies? Yes, I know about them.
Ever heard of brain MRI's?
Sure, and differences in the brain explain why, for example, some
males are effiminate and may prefer sex with other males.
That doesn't make them women. Words have meaning.
Stop trying to pin things on "mental illness".
I'm not pinning everything on mental illness, but it's big part of it.
If someone is convinced they that they are something that they are
not, so much so that they mutilate themselves via drugs or knives,
that's a mental illness.
Will you watch this documentary? It's well worth the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVEZ7gELcgY&list=PLlzZcJ_wPqcUTVOyMitdezb95YqCi2ZZZ
RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
Yes, mutilation. When parts of a human body are hacked off in a delusional >> attempt to change someone's sex – that's mutilation. Hormone blocking to >> "delay" natural development for boys and girls. Anything that blocks natural >> development is dangerous.
"Under medical care," by a moron who will do just about anything for money. >> Fortunately some of these quacks are starting to get sued. Those suing them >> (who have regretted their irreversible mutilation surgery) say that the doctors
SHOULD have (at least) suggested counseling before the mutilation.
Mutilation? You mean like plastic surgery, breast implants, Himplants <laughing>, and <cough cough> circumcision?
% <pursent100@qmail.corn> wrote:
I caused George W. Bush to become president even though I voted for Al >> >> Gore, among numerous things, being the Son of Man.
Are you on drugs?
I've had cannabis and caffeine, today, no DXM or alcohol since last
night, although I got wasted on the combo then. But I don't drink
like I used to. However, the story in 2000 is that I had to date two
particular women leading up to the election to make Bush win, to set
up the possibilities for something other than the default of joining
with Al Gore. The only one anyone should have thought could happen
would be for me to continue in my drug career, which ultimately could
have reached a conclusion in 2011, but even that was a pipe dream. It
was always going to be now.
Fascinating. I'm uh... just gonna go now. I think my telephone might
be ringing or something...
You might as well not even exist, to me, cracker.
Here's a list of what these money-grubbing ghouls want to do to
children (and delusional adults) at a clinic in Cleveland...
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/procedures/gender-affirmation-surgery
Will you watch this documentary? It's well worth the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVEZ7gELcgY&list=PLlzZcJ_wPqcUTVOyMitdezb95YqCi2ZZZ
Nah. If there's no transcript, I'm not taking the time. Convince me its worth >time time.
I'm not pinning everything on mental illness, but it's big part of it.
If someone is convinced they that they are something that they are
not, so much so that they mutilate themselves via drugs or knives,
that's a mental illness.
WTF?
That's right. Sink to their level. That'll help.
RonB wrote:
Here's a list of what these money-grubbing ghouls want to do to
children (and delusional adults) at a clinic in Cleveland...
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/procedures/gender-affirmation-surgery
There's a ton of money to be made off of those poor confused kids.
They're patients for *life* one they make that turn.
On Thu, 04 Jan 2024 06:56:10 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
some idiot wrote:
no harm is done by allowing them to use
the restroom that matches their gender identity.
Yeah there is. Women don't want male perverts in their bathrooms.
They don't want to undress infront of intact males, like "Lia" Thomas,
in their locker rooms.
Why are their feelings less important than the pervert's?
Why are you calling transgender women "perverts", you fucking dumbshit
pig? You are transparently the type who will roll over and let Trump
be the dictator, a pathetic wuss.
Name calling aside, his point is valid. If women don't want trans allowed in their
rest/locker rooms, they shouldn't be allowed.
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2024 4:27 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jan 2024 06:56:10 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
no harm is done by allowing them to use
the restroom that matches their gender identity.
Yeah there is. Women don't want male perverts in their bathrooms.
They don't want to undress infront of intact males, like "Lia" Thomas, >>>>> in their locker rooms.
Why are their feelings less important than the pervert's?
Why are you calling transgender women "perverts", you fucking dumbshit >>>> pig? You are transparently the type who will roll over and let Trump
be the dictator, a pathetic wuss.
Name calling aside, his point is valid. If women don't want trans allowed in their
rest/locker rooms, they shouldn't be allowed.
Why? By denying a trans woman access to the women's bathroom, you are
causing harm to her (literally going against the doctor's orders). For
you to be correct, there has to be a greater harm done to the women who
don't want the trans women there.
The argument is those harms are 1) privacy and 2) safety. Both don't
fly. Since all use a closed stall, what is the privacy concern?
Empirical data from places that permit trans women in show that
predators faking it are very, very rare (which isn't a surprise because
faking it would require the predator to live their entire life as trans,
which they don't do).
Perhaps this time you will engage the argument rather than dismiss it
with "Innies to the right, outies to the left"?
Notice how chrisv specifies cis women being uncomfy with "intact"
"males", as if seeing a dick is going to give them a heart attack. I
don't give a crap if it does, one less brainless phobe to deal with.
Why should post-op trans women get special treatment? Fuck that. Fuck phobes. And the "governor" who couldn't win a statewide race if his
own household was a state, Swill, is just an old fashioned dummy.
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2024 8:30 AM, Joel wrote:
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2024 4:27 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
If women don't want trans allowed in their
rest/locker rooms, they shouldn't be allowed.
Why? By denying a trans woman access to the women's bathroom, you are
causing harm to her (literally going against the doctor's orders). For >>>> you to be correct, there has to be a greater harm done to the women who >>>> don't want the trans women there.
The argument is those harms are 1) privacy and 2) safety. Both don't
fly. Since all use a closed stall, what is the privacy concern?
Empirical data from places that permit trans women in show that
predators faking it are very, very rare (which isn't a surprise because >>>> faking it would require the predator to live their entire life as trans, >>>> which they don't do).
Perhaps this time you will engage the argument rather than dismiss it
with "Innies to the right, outies to the left"?
Notice how chrisv specifies cis women being uncomfy with "intact"
"males", as if seeing a dick is going to give them a heart attack. I
don't give a crap if it does, one less brainless phobe to deal with.
Why should post-op trans women get special treatment? Fuck that. Fuck
phobes. And the "governor" who couldn't win a statewide race if his
own household was a state, Swill, is just an old fashioned dummy.
I disagree with you in that it is reasonable in the name of privacy to
not expose a penis in the women's bathroom. But, that's not an issue
with using the toilet.
There should be urinals installed in female-specific bathrooms,
where
possible. I was referring more to a changing room, though, where
phobes have seen trans cock and fainted, or some pussyhole shit. They
need to grow some balls.
They need to grow some balls.
On 2024-01-05, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2024-01-05 6:03 a.m., chrisv wrote:
RonB wrote:
Here's a list of what these money-grubbing ghouls want to do to
children (and delusional adults) at a clinic in Cleveland...
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/procedures/gender-affirmation-surgery
There's a ton of money to be made off of those poor confused kids.
They're patients for *life* one they make that turn.
Western society is in favour of a greater number of transsexuals because
it strengthens the pharmaceutical companies, much like the fraudulent
"vaccine" for the fraudulent "virus" did. They don't care about people
and never did.
Worse than not caring, Bill Gates and his fellow slime in Big Pharma and the WEF want to reduce the world's population from 8 billion to 1 to 2 billion ("peacefully, if possible"). Which is why the Gate's foundation's vaccines sterilize. How many times did that slimeball, pervert Gates to Epstein's Island? Is his name one of those released in the latest news? (Probably not, Epstein was running blackmail/extortion operation. Gates was probably too
big to extort.)
Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
How about when the radical leftist running the schools support "social
transitions" at school but won't inform the parents?
How else would one support the student, particularly in the cases where the >> parents would strenuously object to the student identifying as they prefer >> to?
Again, it's really mostly an issue of do you see a penis and stop thinking, >> or do you examine the issue in depth.
Have you ever considered the option of making the personality match the >reality instead of vice versa?
On 1/5/2024 4:27 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jan 2024 06:56:10 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
some idiot wrote:
no harm is done by allowing them to use
the restroom that matches their gender identity.
Yeah there is. Women don't want male perverts in their bathrooms.
They don't want to undress infront of intact males, like "Lia" Thomas, >>>> in their locker rooms.
Why are their feelings less important than the pervert's?
Why are you calling transgender women "perverts", you fucking dumbshit
pig? You are transparently the type who will roll over and let Trump
be the dictator, a pathetic wuss.
Name calling aside, his point is valid. If women don't want trans allowed in their
rest/locker rooms, they shouldn't be allowed.
Why? By denying a trans woman access to the women's bathroom, you are
causing harm to her (literally going against the doctor's orders). For
you to be correct, there has to be a greater harm done to the women who
don't want the trans women there.
The argument is those harms are 1) privacy and 2) safety. Both don't
fly. Since all use a closed stall, what is the privacy concern?
Empirical data from places that permit trans women in show that
predators faking it are very, very rare (which isn't a surprise because >faking it would require the predator to live their entire life as trans, >which they don't do).
Perhaps this time you will engage the argument rather than dismiss it
with "Innies to the right, outies to the left"?
On 1/5/2024 8:54 AM, Joel wrote:
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2024 8:30 AM, Joel wrote:
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2024 4:27 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
If women don't want trans allowed in their
rest/locker rooms, they shouldn't be allowed.
Why? By denying a trans woman access to the women's bathroom, you are >>>>> causing harm to her (literally going against the doctor's orders). For >>>>> you to be correct, there has to be a greater harm done to the women who >>>>> don't want the trans women there.
The argument is those harms are 1) privacy and 2) safety. Both don't >>>>> fly. Since all use a closed stall, what is the privacy concern?
Empirical data from places that permit trans women in show that
predators faking it are very, very rare (which isn't a surprise because >>>>> faking it would require the predator to live their entire life as trans, >>>>> which they don't do).
Perhaps this time you will engage the argument rather than dismiss it >>>>> with "Innies to the right, outies to the left"?
Notice how chrisv specifies cis women being uncomfy with "intact"
"males", as if seeing a dick is going to give them a heart attack. I
don't give a crap if it does, one less brainless phobe to deal with.
Why should post-op trans women get special treatment? Fuck that. Fuck >>>> phobes. And the "governor" who couldn't win a statewide race if his
own household was a state, Swill, is just an old fashioned dummy.
I disagree with you in that it is reasonable in the name of privacy to
not expose a penis in the women's bathroom. But, that's not an issue
with using the toilet.
There should be urinals installed in female-specific bathrooms,
Trans woman should use the stalls, not urinals (no penis exposure in the
name of privacy).
where
possible. I was referring more to a changing room, though, where
phobes have seen trans cock and fainted, or some pussyhole shit. They
need to grow some balls.
Again in the name of privacy, changing rooms are an issue. I'm fine with >trans women who use female changing rooms so long as they do not expose
their penis to others.
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
Notice how chrisv specifies cis women being uncomfy with "intact"
"males", as if seeing a dick is going to give them a heart attack. I >>>>> don't give a crap if it does, one less brainless phobe to deal with. >>>>> Why should post-op trans women get special treatment? Fuck that. Fuck >>>>> phobes. And the "governor" who couldn't win a statewide race if his >>>>> own household was a state, Swill, is just an old fashioned dummy.
I disagree with you in that it is reasonable in the name of privacy to >>>> not expose a penis in the women's bathroom. But, that's not an issue
with using the toilet.
There should be urinals installed in female-specific bathrooms,
Trans woman should use the stalls, not urinals (no penis exposure in the >>name of privacy).
One time, I went into a large public bathroom next to a mall food
court. A dad and his young daughters were in there. I pissed in a
urinal as normal, my penis was not exposed to the entire room. Did
they know I was urinating, though? Sure. No fucking big deal.
where
possible. I was referring more to a changing room, though, where
phobes have seen trans cock and fainted, or some pussyhole shit. They
need to grow some balls.
Again in the name of privacy, changing rooms are an issue. I'm fine with >>trans women who use female changing rooms so long as they do not expose >>their penis to others.
Aww, poor babies, having to see a woman's cock. Fuck 'em.
weaytOn Fri, 5 Jan 2024 09:06:30 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2024 8:54 AM, Joel wrote:
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2024 8:30 AM, Joel wrote:
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2024 4:27 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
If women don't want trans allowed in their
rest/locker rooms, they shouldn't be allowed.
Why? By denying a trans woman access to the women's bathroom, you are >>>>>> causing harm to her (literally going against the doctor's orders). For >>>>>> you to be correct, there has to be a greater harm done to the women who >>>>>> don't want the trans women there.
The argument is those harms are 1) privacy and 2) safety. Both don't >>>>>> fly. Since all use a closed stall, what is the privacy concern?
Empirical data from places that permit trans women in show that
predators faking it are very, very rare (which isn't a surprise because >>>>>> faking it would require the predator to live their entire life as trans, >>>>>> which they don't do).
Perhaps this time you will engage the argument rather than dismiss it >>>>>> with "Innies to the right, outies to the left"?
Notice how chrisv specifies cis women being uncomfy with "intact"
"males", as if seeing a dick is going to give them a heart attack. I >>>>> don't give a crap if it does, one less brainless phobe to deal with. >>>>> Why should post-op trans women get special treatment? Fuck that. Fuck >>>>> phobes. And the "governor" who couldn't win a statewide race if his >>>>> own household was a state, Swill, is just an old fashioned dummy.
I disagree with you in that it is reasonable in the name of privacy to >>>> not expose a penis in the women's bathroom. But, that's not an issue
with using the toilet.
There should be urinals installed in female-specific bathrooms,
Trans woman should use the stalls, not urinals (no penis exposure in the
name of privacy).
where
possible. I was referring more to a changing room, though, where
phobes have seen trans cock and fainted, or some pussyhole shit. They
need to grow some balls.
Again in the name of privacy, changing rooms are an issue. I'm fine with
trans women who use female changing rooms so long as they do not expose
their penis to others.
..or watch the real women as they change?
On 1/5/2024 3:31 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
weaytOn Fri, 5 Jan 2024 09:06:30 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2024 8:54 AM, Joel wrote:
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2024 8:30 AM, Joel wrote:
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2024 4:27 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
If women don't want trans allowed in their
rest/locker rooms, they shouldn't be allowed.
Why? By denying a trans woman access to the women's bathroom, you are >>>>>>> causing harm to her (literally going against the doctor's orders). For >>>>>>> you to be correct, there has to be a greater harm done to the women who >>>>>>> don't want the trans women there.
The argument is those harms are 1) privacy and 2) safety. Both don't >>>>>>> fly. Since all use a closed stall, what is the privacy concern?
Empirical data from places that permit trans women in show that
predators faking it are very, very rare (which isn't a surprise because >>>>>>> faking it would require the predator to live their entire life as trans,
which they don't do).
Perhaps this time you will engage the argument rather than dismiss it >>>>>>> with "Innies to the right, outies to the left"?
Notice how chrisv specifies cis women being uncomfy with "intact"
"males", as if seeing a dick is going to give them a heart attack. I >>>>>> don't give a crap if it does, one less brainless phobe to deal with. >>>>>> Why should post-op trans women get special treatment? Fuck that. Fuck >>>>>> phobes. And the "governor" who couldn't win a statewide race if his >>>>>> own household was a state, Swill, is just an old fashioned dummy.
I disagree with you in that it is reasonable in the name of privacy to >>>>> not expose a penis in the women's bathroom. But, that's not an issue >>>>> with using the toilet.
There should be urinals installed in female-specific bathrooms,
Trans woman should use the stalls, not urinals (no penis exposure in the >>> name of privacy).
where
possible. I was referring more to a changing room, though, where
phobes have seen trans cock and fainted, or some pussyhole shit. They >>>> need to grow some balls.
Again in the name of privacy, changing rooms are an issue. I'm fine with >>> trans women who use female changing rooms so long as they do not expose
their penis to others.
..or watch the real women as they change?
Close call. On the one hand, the cis women have a reasonable privacy
issue. On the other hand perhaps they don't because the trans woman
isn't a leering cis man.
On 1/5/2024 3:22 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 08:06:57 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/5/2024 4:27 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jan 2024 06:56:10 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
some idiot wrote:
no harm is done by allowing them to use
the restroom that matches their gender identity.
Yeah there is. Women don't want male perverts in their bathrooms. >>>>>> They don't want to undress infront of intact males, like "Lia" Thomas, >>>>>> in their locker rooms.
Why are their feelings less important than the pervert's?
Why are you calling transgender women "perverts", you fucking dumbshit >>>>> pig? You are transparently the type who will roll over and let Trump >>>>> be the dictator, a pathetic wuss.
Name calling aside, his point is valid. If women don't want trans allowed in their
rest/locker rooms, they shouldn't be allowed.
Why? By denying a trans woman access to the women's bathroom, you are
causing harm to her (literally going against the doctor's orders). For
you to be correct, there has to be a greater harm done to the women who
don't want the trans women there.
The argument is those harms are 1) privacy and 2) safety. Both don't
fly. Since all use a closed stall, what is the privacy concern?
Empirical data from places that permit trans women in show that
predators faking it are very, very rare (which isn't a surprise because
faking it would require the predator to live their entire life as trans, >>> which they don't do).
Perhaps this time you will engage the argument rather than dismiss it
with "Innies to the right, outies to the left"?
So, if a doctor's orders are for a guy to masturbate on a grade school
playground, we should let him do it?
If it's a well-recognized treatment by virtually all major medical >organizations, yes (of course, your hypothetical is not).
On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:03:26 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/5/2024 3:22 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 08:06:57 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/5/2024 4:27 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jan 2024 06:56:10 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
some idiot wrote:
no harm is done by allowing them to use
the restroom that matches their gender identity.
Yeah there is. Women don't want male perverts in their bathrooms. >>>>>>> They don't want to undress infront of intact males, like "Lia" Thomas, >>>>>>> in their locker rooms.
Why are their feelings less important than the pervert's?
Why are you calling transgender women "perverts", you fucking dumbshit >>>>>> pig? You are transparently the type who will roll over and let Trump >>>>>> be the dictator, a pathetic wuss.
Name calling aside, his point is valid. If women don't want trans allowed in their
rest/locker rooms, they shouldn't be allowed.
Why? By denying a trans woman access to the women's bathroom, you are
causing harm to her (literally going against the doctor's orders). For >>>> you to be correct, there has to be a greater harm done to the women who >>>> don't want the trans women there.
The argument is those harms are 1) privacy and 2) safety. Both don't
fly. Since all use a closed stall, what is the privacy concern?
Empirical data from places that permit trans women in show that
predators faking it are very, very rare (which isn't a surprise because >>>> faking it would require the predator to live their entire life as trans, >>>> which they don't do).
Perhaps this time you will engage the argument rather than dismiss it
with "Innies to the right, outies to the left"?
So, if a doctor's orders are for a guy to masturbate on a grade school
playground, we should let him do it?
If it's a well-recognized treatment by virtually all major medical
organizations, yes (of course, your hypothetical is not).
Nope... Some medical organizations, maybe.
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2024 8:30 AM, Joel wrote:
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2024 4:27 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
If women don't want trans allowed in their
rest/locker rooms, they shouldn't be allowed.
Why? By denying a trans woman access to the women's bathroom, you are
causing harm to her (literally going against the doctor's orders). For >>>> you to be correct, there has to be a greater harm done to the women who >>>> don't want the trans women there.
The argument is those harms are 1) privacy and 2) safety. Both don't
fly. Since all use a closed stall, what is the privacy concern?
Empirical data from places that permit trans women in show that
predators faking it are very, very rare (which isn't a surprise because >>>> faking it would require the predator to live their entire life as trans, >>>> which they don't do).
Perhaps this time you will engage the argument rather than dismiss it
with "Innies to the right, outies to the left"?
Notice how chrisv specifies cis women being uncomfy with "intact"
"males", as if seeing a dick is going to give them a heart attack. I
don't give a crap if it does, one less brainless phobe to deal with.
Why should post-op trans women get special treatment? Fuck that. Fuck
phobes. And the "governor" who couldn't win a statewide race if his
own household was a state, Swill, is just an old fashioned dummy.
I disagree with you in that it is reasonable in the name of privacy to
not expose a penis in the women's bathroom. But, that's not an issue
with using the toilet.
There should be urinals installed in female-specific bathrooms, where possible. I was referring more to a changing room, though, where
phobes have seen trans cock and fainted, or some pussyhole shit. They
need to grow some balls.
On Fri, 05 Jan 2024 12:15:04 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
Notice how chrisv specifies cis women being uncomfy with "intact"
"males", as if seeing a dick is going to give them a heart attack. I >>>>>> don't give a crap if it does, one less brainless phobe to deal with. >>>>>> Why should post-op trans women get special treatment? Fuck that. Fuck >>>>>> phobes. And the "governor" who couldn't win a statewide race if his >>>>>> own household was a state, Swill, is just an old fashioned dummy.
I disagree with you in that it is reasonable in the name of privacy to >>>>> not expose a penis in the women's bathroom. But, that's not an issue >>>>> with using the toilet.
There should be urinals installed in female-specific bathrooms,
Trans woman should use the stalls, not urinals (no penis exposure in the >>>name of privacy).
One time, I went into a large public bathroom next to a mall food
court. A dad and his young daughters were in there. I pissed in a
urinal as normal, my penis was not exposed to the entire room. Did
they know I was urinating, though? Sure. No fucking big deal.
where
possible. I was referring more to a changing room, though, where
phobes have seen trans cock and fainted, or some pussyhole shit. They >>>> need to grow some balls.
Again in the name of privacy, changing rooms are an issue. I'm fine with >>>trans women who use female changing rooms so long as they do not expose >>>their penis to others.
Aww, poor babies, having to see a woman's cock. Fuck 'em.
Little by little, the trans nonsense is circling the bowl.
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:03:21 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> >>wrote:
Again in the name of privacy, changing rooms are an issue. I'm fine with >>>>> trans women who use female changing rooms so long as they do not expose >>>>> their penis to others.
..or watch the real women as they change?
Close call. On the one hand, the cis women have a reasonable privacy >>>issue. On the other hand perhaps they don't because the trans woman
isn't a leering cis man.
..or at least claims not to be.... There's really no way to tell.
Translation: *If* *you* were in the female-specific changing room,
*you* would *actually* try to look at female nudity, and in your
ridiculous cracker-ass "mind", that means a trans woman also would.
Idiot.
weaytOn Fri, 5 Jan 2024 09:06:30 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2024 8:54 AM, Joel wrote:
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2024 8:30 AM, Joel wrote:
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2024 4:27 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
If women don't want trans allowed in their
rest/locker rooms, they shouldn't be allowed.
Why? By denying a trans woman access to the women's bathroom, you are >>>>>> causing harm to her (literally going against the doctor's orders). For >>>>>> you to be correct, there has to be a greater harm done to the women who >>>>>> don't want the trans women there.
The argument is those harms are 1) privacy and 2) safety. Both don't >>>>>> fly. Since all use a closed stall, what is the privacy concern?
Empirical data from places that permit trans women in show that
predators faking it are very, very rare (which isn't a surprise because >>>>>> faking it would require the predator to live their entire life as trans, >>>>>> which they don't do).
Perhaps this time you will engage the argument rather than dismiss it >>>>>> with "Innies to the right, outies to the left"?
Notice how chrisv specifies cis women being uncomfy with "intact"
"males", as if seeing a dick is going to give them a heart attack. I >>>>> don't give a crap if it does, one less brainless phobe to deal with. >>>>> Why should post-op trans women get special treatment? Fuck that. Fuck >>>>> phobes. And the "governor" who couldn't win a statewide race if his >>>>> own household was a state, Swill, is just an old fashioned dummy.
I disagree with you in that it is reasonable in the name of privacy to >>>> not expose a penis in the women's bathroom. But, that's not an issue
with using the toilet.
There should be urinals installed in female-specific bathrooms,
Trans woman should use the stalls, not urinals (no penis exposure in the >>name of privacy).
where
possible. I was referring more to a changing room, though, where
phobes have seen trans cock and fainted, or some pussyhole shit. They
need to grow some balls.
Again in the name of privacy, changing rooms are an issue. I'm fine with >>trans women who use female changing rooms so long as they do not expose >>their penis to others.
..or watch the real women as they change?
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:03:21 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> >>wrote:
Again in the name of privacy, changing rooms are an issue. I'm fine with >>>>> trans women who use female changing rooms so long as they do not expose >>>>> their penis to others.
..or watch the real women as they change?
Close call. On the one hand, the cis women have a reasonable privacy >>>issue. On the other hand perhaps they don't because the trans woman
isn't a leering cis man.
..or at least claims not to be.... There's really no way to tell.
Translation: *If* *you* were in the female-specific changing room,
*you* would *actually* try to look at female nudity, and in your
ridiculous cracker-ass "mind", that means a trans woman also would.
Idiot.
On 2024-01-06, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:I am a genetic female and I feel very uncomfortable with men dressed in their wife's clothes
On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:03:21 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> >>>wrote:
Again in the name of privacy, changing rooms are an issue. I'm fine with >>>>>> trans women who use female changing rooms so long as they do not expose >>>>>> their penis to others.
..or watch the real women as they change?
Close call. On the one hand, the cis women have a reasonable privacy >>>>issue. On the other hand perhaps they don't because the trans woman >>>>isn't a leering cis man.
..or at least claims not to be.... There's really no way to tell.
Translation: *If* *you* were in the female-specific changing room,
*you* would *actually* try to look at female nudity, and in your
ridiculous cracker-ass "mind", that means a trans woman also would.
Idiot.
gawking at me.
Also I have no problem with people who have had the treatment, had the surgery and so forth.
While I don't believe they have transferred themselves to the opposite sex, since they live as that
sex, who am I to oppose?
That is far different than some iron worker going out Saturday night dressed in his wife's undies.
On 1/5/2024 4:41 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:03:26 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/5/2024 3:22 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 08:06:57 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> >>>> wrote:
On 1/5/2024 4:27 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jan 2024 06:56:10 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
some idiot wrote:
no harm is done by allowing them to use
the restroom that matches their gender identity.
Yeah there is. Women don't want male perverts in their bathrooms. >>>>>>>> They don't want to undress infront of intact males, like "Lia" Thomas, >>>>>>>> in their locker rooms.
Why are their feelings less important than the pervert's?
Why are you calling transgender women "perverts", you fucking dumbshit >>>>>>> pig? You are transparently the type who will roll over and let Trump >>>>>>> be the dictator, a pathetic wuss.
Name calling aside, his point is valid. If women don't want trans allowed in their
rest/locker rooms, they shouldn't be allowed.
Why? By denying a trans woman access to the women's bathroom, you are >>>>> causing harm to her (literally going against the doctor's orders). For >>>>> you to be correct, there has to be a greater harm done to the women who >>>>> don't want the trans women there.
The argument is those harms are 1) privacy and 2) safety. Both don't >>>>> fly. Since all use a closed stall, what is the privacy concern?
Empirical data from places that permit trans women in show that
predators faking it are very, very rare (which isn't a surprise because >>>>> faking it would require the predator to live their entire life as trans, >>>>> which they don't do).
Perhaps this time you will engage the argument rather than dismiss it >>>>> with "Innies to the right, outies to the left"?
So, if a doctor's orders are for a guy to masturbate on a grade school >>>> playground, we should let him do it?
If it's a well-recognized treatment by virtually all major medical
organizations, yes (of course, your hypothetical is not).
Nope... Some medical organizations, maybe.
All of these organizations recognize gender identity as real. None
support your hypothetical.
American College Health Association
American College of Nurse-Midwives
American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
American College of Physicians
American Counseling Association
American Heart Association
American Medical Association
American Medical Student Association
American Nurses Association
American Osteopathic Association
American Psychiatric Association
American Psychological Association
American Public Health Association
American Society of Plastic Surgeons
Endocrine Society
Federation of Pediatric Organizations
National Association of Nurse Practitioners in Women's Health
National Commission on Correctional Health Care
Pediatric Endocrine Society
Society for Adolescent Health and Medicine
World Medical Association
World Professional Association for Transgender Health
On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 17:21:06 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/5/2024 4:41 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:03:26 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/5/2024 3:22 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 08:06:57 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> >>>>> wrote:
On 1/5/2024 4:27 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jan 2024 06:56:10 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
some idiot wrote:
no harm is done by allowing them to use
the restroom that matches their gender identity.
Yeah there is. Women don't want male perverts in their bathrooms. >>>>>>>>> They don't want to undress infront of intact males, like "Lia" Thomas,
in their locker rooms.
Why are their feelings less important than the pervert's?
Why are you calling transgender women "perverts", you fucking dumbshit >>>>>>>> pig? You are transparently the type who will roll over and let Trump >>>>>>>> be the dictator, a pathetic wuss.
Name calling aside, his point is valid. If women don't want trans allowed in their
rest/locker rooms, they shouldn't be allowed.
Why? By denying a trans woman access to the women's bathroom, you are >>>>>> causing harm to her (literally going against the doctor's orders). For >>>>>> you to be correct, there has to be a greater harm done to the women who >>>>>> don't want the trans women there.
The argument is those harms are 1) privacy and 2) safety. Both don't >>>>>> fly. Since all use a closed stall, what is the privacy concern?
Empirical data from places that permit trans women in show that
predators faking it are very, very rare (which isn't a surprise because >>>>>> faking it would require the predator to live their entire life as trans, >>>>>> which they don't do).
Perhaps this time you will engage the argument rather than dismiss it >>>>>> with "Innies to the right, outies to the left"?
So, if a doctor's orders are for a guy to masturbate on a grade school >>>>> playground, we should let him do it?
If it's a well-recognized treatment by virtually all major medical
organizations, yes (of course, your hypothetical is not).
Nope... Some medical organizations, maybe.
All of these organizations recognize gender identity as real. None
support your hypothetical.
American College Health Association
American College of Nurse-Midwives
American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
American College of Physicians
American Counseling Association
American Heart Association
American Medical Association
American Medical Student Association
American Nurses Association
American Osteopathic Association
American Psychiatric Association
American Psychological Association
American Public Health Association
American Society of Plastic Surgeons
Endocrine Society
Federation of Pediatric Organizations
National Association of Nurse Practitioners in Women's Health
National Commission on Correctional Health Care
Pediatric Endocrine Society
Society for Adolescent Health and Medicine
World Medical Association
World Professional Association for Transgender Health
Perhaps, but that's a sign that loony wokies have taken crontrol of
them. It's similar to how the loony wokies have taken over the control education systems.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67868280
People are waking up an realizing that the trans movement is 1% or
less of the population and the number of truly gender dysphoric.
people is like .01% of the population.
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
..or at least claims not to be [a cisgender male in a female-specific space].... There's really no way to tell.
Translation: *If* *you* were in the female-specific changing room,
*you* would *actually* try to look at female nudity, and in your >>>ridiculous cracker-ass "mind", that means a trans woman also would.
There's no such thing as a "trans women." What you call "trans women"
are really sick, sissified freaks pretending to be women.
Fool. Phobe.
Idiot.
I respect real women's rights to have places free of any males.
You discriminate in the name of a false morality, you're an antichrist >worshipper, a Trump supporter if there ever was one, an authoritarian
piece of crap.
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
loony wokies
We'd be better off with authoritarian dictatorship by your kind?
On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 08:06:57 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2024 4:27 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jan 2024 06:56:10 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
some idiot wrote:
no harm is done by allowing them to use
the restroom that matches their gender identity.
Yeah there is. Women don't want male perverts in their bathrooms.
They don't want to undress infront of intact males, like "Lia" Thomas, >>>>> in their locker rooms.
Why are their feelings less important than the pervert's?
Why are you calling transgender women "perverts", you fucking dumbshit >>>> pig? You are transparently the type who will roll over and let Trump
be the dictator, a pathetic wuss.
Name calling aside, his point is valid. If women don't want trans allowed in their
rest/locker rooms, they shouldn't be allowed.
Why? By denying a trans woman access to the women's bathroom, you are
causing harm to her (literally going against the doctor's orders). For
you to be correct, there has to be a greater harm done to the women who
don't want the trans women there.
The argument is those harms are 1) privacy and 2) safety. Both don't
fly. Since all use a closed stall, what is the privacy concern?
I guess you've never heard of chyx sneaking their dates into the ladies' for a bit of
hanky panky.
Empirical data from places that permit trans women in show that
predators faking it are very, very rare (which isn't a surprise because
faking it would require the predator to live their entire life as trans,
which they don't do).
LOL! Sure, right. All they have to do is dress in drag. No need to live for years that
way.
Perhaps this time you will engage the argument rather than dismiss it
with "Innies to the right, outies to the left"?
That *is* my argument.
it is *not* a dismissal. Restroom selection should be based on
current genitalia. Iow, pre op trans are still anatomically their birth sex and should
use the restroom provided for that sex.
On Sat, 06 Jan 2024 10:27:02 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
loony wokies
We'd be better off with authoritarian dictatorship by your kind?
Authoritarian dictatorship by [my] kind?
No, I have no intention of telling anyone what to do as long as they
don't infringe on other people's rights. If you want to dance around
in women's clothes and act like a freak, it's none of my business as
long as you don't insist that I enable your delusions.
Blue Lives Matter
I don't have a problem with the "tranny" freaks as long as they don't >>expect everybody else to go along with their derangement.
Your premise gives the lie to your statement.
If you truly had no problem with them,
you'd freely go along with their condition - and you wouldn't be calling it a >"derangement".
(big snip)
World Professional Association for Transgender Health
Perhaps, but that's a sign that loony wokies have taken crontrol of
them. It's similar to how the loony wokies have taken over the control
education systems.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67868280
It's a combination of loony leftists and the money machine driving this. >There is a TON of $$$$ to be made in gender transformation.
And these sicko, greedy medical "professionals" don't give a hoot about the patient.
Gender dysphoria is just another in a long list of "insanities" that it turns out has a
real, pathological basis.
On 1/6/2024 9:49 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jan 2024 10:27:02 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
loony wokies
We'd be better off with authoritarian dictatorship by your kind?
Authoritarian dictatorship by [my] kind?
No, I have no intention of telling anyone what to do as long as they
don't infringe on other people's rights. If you want to dance around
in women's clothes and act like a freak, it's none of my business as
long as you don't insist that I enable your delusions.
How are you being forced to enable what you believe is a delusion?
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
I respect real women's rights to have places free of any males.
You discriminate in the name of a false morality, you're an antichrist >>>worshipper, a Trump supporter if there ever was one, an authoritarian >>>piece of crap.
For some reason you fail to recognise the quite obvious fact that I
revel in your hatred and insults. Irritating a wokie freak is good,
clean fun.
But see, I am me, so you can't irritate me,
resolved to be "woke".
I have authority politically,
hence my
signature quoting the 14th amendment to invalidate the Dobbs abortion >decision by the U.S. Supreme Court,
namely Alito and Thomas along with
Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett. Roberts' approach I found interesting
but nonetheless too willing to change the previous precedent, going
for a unified tweaking of it would be one thing, what Roberts proposed
was too vaguely expressed, and what the slim majority did is just
outright illegal under the U.S. Constitution.
Also, trans people make you look like a piece of shit of a human.
pothead wrote:
(big snip)
World Professional Association for Transgender Health
They all use the guidance of the last on the list, WPATH. The most
radical pack of weirdos and perverts on the planet.
Perhaps, but that's a sign that loony wokies have taken crontrol of
them. It's similar to how the loony wokies have taken over the control
education systems.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67868280
It's a combination of loony leftists and the money machine driving this. >>There is a TON of $$$$ to be made in gender transformation.
And these sicko, greedy medical "professionals" don't give a hoot about the patient.
Exactly. The medical profession has been captured by the leftists,
just like the mainstream media and the educational system.
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 10:01:51 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/6/2024 9:49 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jan 2024 10:27:02 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
loony wokies
We'd be better off with authoritarian dictatorship by your kind?
Authoritarian dictatorship by [my] kind?
No, I have no intention of telling anyone what to do as long as they
don't infringe on other people's rights. If you want to dance around
in women's clothes and act like a freak, it's none of my business as
long as you don't insist that I enable your delusions.
How are you being forced to enable what you believe is a delusion?
Enablers are people who allow bad behavior by not objecting to it. In
this case, enabling might be where one agrees to use silly ridiculous pronouns, or a worse case, officials who allow males to compete in
female athletic events and/or use female facilities.
Sometimes referred to as codependancy.
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
I have authority politically,
<LOL> You have no authority of any kind.
You think they'd give it to you, instead, cracker?
hence my
signature quoting the 14th amendment to invalidate the Dobbs abortion >>>decision by the U.S. Supreme Court,
It's 100% valid. Indeed the Constitution does not confer a right to >>abortion.
And yet you would cry like a baby if I said something against gun
rights, which are justified, by your side, with the constitution,
hence you are a Rush Limbaugh-listening dumb hypocrite retard, and
your opinions are useless.
Also, trans people make you look like a piece of shit of a human.
<SMILE>
"Trans people" make themselves into perverts when they go around
trying to be what they can never be. They'd be fine if they'd just be >>satisfied with what they've always been, sissy males and butchy
females.
That is a truly moronic thing to say, so if you were trying to sound
stupid, bravo.
On 1/6/2024 11:07 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 10:01:51 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/6/2024 9:49 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jan 2024 10:27:02 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
loony wokies
We'd be better off with authoritarian dictatorship by your kind?
Authoritarian dictatorship by [my] kind?
No, I have no intention of telling anyone what to do as long as they
don't infringe on other people's rights. If you want to dance around
in women's clothes and act like a freak, it's none of my business as
long as you don't insist that I enable your delusions.
How are you being forced to enable what you believe is a delusion?
Enablers are people who allow bad behavior by not objecting to it. In
this case, enabling might be where one agrees to use silly ridiculous
pronouns, or a worse case, officials who allow males to compete in
female athletic events and/or use female facilities.
Sometimes referred to as codependancy.
Your examples aren't of *you* being forced to enable.
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 14:42:13 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/6/2024 11:07 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 10:01:51 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/6/2024 9:49 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jan 2024 10:27:02 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
loony wokies
We'd be better off with authoritarian dictatorship by your kind?
Authoritarian dictatorship by [my] kind?
No, I have no intention of telling anyone what to do as long as they >>>>> don't infringe on other people's rights. If you want to dance around >>>>> in women's clothes and act like a freak, it's none of my business as >>>>> long as you don't insist that I enable your delusions.
How are you being forced to enable what you believe is a delusion?
Enablers are people who allow bad behavior by not objecting to it. In
this case, enabling might be where one agrees to use silly ridiculous
pronouns, or a worse case, officials who allow males to compete in
female athletic events and/or use female facilities.
Sometimes referred to as codependancy.
Your examples aren't of *you* being forced to enable.
Well, ....since I never said that I was being forced to enable.
:-D "the leftists" bogeyman :-D
Joel wrote:
what the slim majority did is just
outright illegal under the U.S. Constitution.
They'd be fine if they'd just be satisfied with what
they've always been, sissy males and butchy females.
On 1/6/2024 2:54 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 14:42:13 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/6/2024 11:07 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 10:01:51 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> >>>> wrote:
On 1/6/2024 9:49 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jan 2024 10:27:02 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
loony wokies
We'd be better off with authoritarian dictatorship by your kind?
Authoritarian dictatorship by [my] kind?
No, I have no intention of telling anyone what to do as long as they >>>>>> don't infringe on other people's rights. If you want to dance around >>>>>> in women's clothes and act like a freak, it's none of my business as >>>>>> long as you don't insist that I enable your delusions.
How are you being forced to enable what you believe is a delusion?
Enablers are people who allow bad behavior by not objecting to it. In >>>> this case, enabling might be where one agrees to use silly ridiculous
pronouns, or a worse case, officials who allow males to compete in
female athletic events and/or use female facilities.
Sometimes referred to as codependancy.
Your examples aren't of *you* being forced to enable.
Well, ....since I never said that I was being forced to enable.
You said, "it's none of my business as long as you don't insist that I
enable your delusions."
Since you aren't being forced to enable, it's none of your business.
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 14:58:42 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/6/2024 2:54 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 14:42:13 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/6/2024 11:07 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 10:01:51 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> >>>>> wrote:
On 1/6/2024 9:49 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jan 2024 10:27:02 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote: >>>>>>>>Authoritarian dictatorship by [my] kind?
loony wokies
We'd be better off with authoritarian dictatorship by your kind? >>>>>>>
No, I have no intention of telling anyone what to do as long as they >>>>>>> don't infringe on other people's rights. If you want to dance around >>>>>>> in women's clothes and act like a freak, it's none of my business as >>>>>>> long as you don't insist that I enable your delusions.
How are you being forced to enable what you believe is a delusion?
Enablers are people who allow bad behavior by not objecting to it. In >>>>> this case, enabling might be where one agrees to use silly ridiculous >>>>> pronouns, or a worse case, officials who allow males to compete in
female athletic events and/or use female facilities.
Sometimes referred to as codependancy.
Your examples aren't of *you* being forced to enable.
Well, ....since I never said that I was being forced to enable.
You said, "it's none of my business as long as you don't insist that I
enable your delusions."
Since you aren't being forced to enable, it's none of your business.
Nobody is forcing me to enable, *BUT* they do insist that everyone
(that includes me) enable their delusions. There's been one on this
forum that's been insisting, you seem to be in that camp also.
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
I have authority politically,
<LOL> You have no authority of any kind.
You think they'd give it to you, instead, cracker?
hence my
signature quoting the 14th amendment to invalidate the Dobbs abortion >>>decision by the U.S. Supreme Court,
It's 100% valid. Indeed the Constitution does not confer a right to >>abortion.
And yet you would cry like a baby if I said something against gun
rights, which are justified, by your side, with the constitution,
hence you are a Rush Limbaugh-listening dumb hypocrite retard, and
your opinions are useless.
Also, trans people make you look like a piece of shit of a human.
<SMILE>
"Trans people" make themselves into perverts when they go around
trying to be what they can never be. They'd be fine if they'd just be >>satisfied with what they've always been, sissy males and butchy
females.
That is a truly moronic thing to say, so if you were trying to sound
stupid, bravo.
chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
Uh, you do realize that everything about a person is determined by >>>physical or biochemical factors?
You mean like overies and testicles, which in turn produce hormones
which shape our bodies? Yes, I know about them.
Ever heard of brain MRI's?
Sure, and differences in the brain explain why, for example, some
males are effiminate and may prefer sex with other males.
That doesn't make them women. Words have meaning.
Your ignorance of trans people speaks for itself. You don't really
know them, except in the abstract of your mind.
Stop trying to pin things on "mental illness".
I'm not pinning everything on mental illness, but it's big part of it.
If someone is convinced they that they are something that they are
not, so much so that they mutilate themselves via drugs or knives,
that's a mental illness.
Will you watch this documentary? It's well worth the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVEZ7gELcgY&list=PLlzZcJ_wPqcUTVOyMitde >>zb95YqCi2ZZZ
Detransitioning is a problem when there's a failure of the system to
guard against making a wrong decision - rarely, if ever, does it
result from the protocols being followed. Your documentary has some
merit in the scope of what it reports on, but it does not contradict
the science.
Explain to me what is sexual about one person sharing his/her feces with >another because that's what happens when you have anal sex.
In the past if a person claimed they had gender dysphoria they would >immediately be seen by a psychiatrist who would counsel them and get to
the real reason for the issue.
The vast majority of people with these claims were rejected for gender >transformation.
The ones that were truly suffering from dysphoria had to undergo intense >therapy to uncover if any lingering mental or medical issue was causing
this behavior.
Assuming this person had passed all of that analysis the patient would
have to live everyday life as the desired sex. For men this means
dressing, going to work,downtime and behaving like a female. And this >excercise was designed to weed out those who for some odd reason want to
be the opposite sex but are truly NOT gender dysphoric.
These days a person, including a minor male in some states, can walk into
a clinic and tell them "I want to be a girl" and with a minimum of >counselling walk out with prescriptions to start the process.
This is just wrong and is what I and many others object to.
On 1/6/2024 3:23 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 14:58:42 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/6/2024 2:54 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 14:42:13 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> >>>> wrote:
On 1/6/2024 11:07 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 10:01:51 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 1/6/2024 9:49 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:Enablers are people who allow bad behavior by not objecting to it. In >>>>>> this case, enabling might be where one agrees to use silly ridiculous >>>>>> pronouns, or a worse case, officials who allow males to compete in >>>>>> female athletic events and/or use female facilities.
On Sat, 06 Jan 2024 10:27:02 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote: >>>>>>>>>Authoritarian dictatorship by [my] kind?
loony wokies
We'd be better off with authoritarian dictatorship by your kind? >>>>>>>>
No, I have no intention of telling anyone what to do as long as they >>>>>>>> don't infringe on other people's rights. If you want to dance around >>>>>>>> in women's clothes and act like a freak, it's none of my business as >>>>>>>> long as you don't insist that I enable your delusions.
How are you being forced to enable what you believe is a delusion? >>>>>>
Sometimes referred to as codependancy.
Your examples aren't of *you* being forced to enable.
Well, ....since I never said that I was being forced to enable.
You said, "it's none of my business as long as you don't insist that I
enable your delusions."
Since you aren't being forced to enable, it's none of your business.
Nobody is forcing me to enable, *BUT* they do insist that everyone
(that includes me) enable their delusions. There's been one on this
forum that's been insisting, you seem to be in that camp also.
What's the difference between insist and force?
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
I have authority politically,
<LOL> You have no authority of any kind.
You think they'd give it to you, instead, cracker?
I have no use for authority, you poor dumbshit freak. The last thing I
want to do is tell anybody what to do.
That isn't what normal people with authority would do, but it's
interesting how you think if you had authority, that'd be what you'd
be doing.
hence my
signature quoting the 14th amendment to invalidate the Dobbs abortion >>>>>decision by the U.S. Supreme Court,
It's 100% valid. Indeed the Constitution does not confer a right to >>>>abortion.
And yet you would cry like a baby if I said something against gun
rights, which are justified, by your side, with the constitution,
hence you are a Rush Limbaugh-listening dumb hypocrite retard, and
your opinions are useless.
Nothing you say has any consequence beyond the entertainment value.
You are a very entertaining freakshow.
Failure to address the comparison of gun rights claims to abortion
rights claims noted.
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
Indeed the Constitution does not confer a right to
abortion.
And yet you would cry like a baby if I said something against gun >>>>>rights, which are justified, by your side, with the constitution, >>>>>hence you are a Rush Limbaugh-listening dumb hypocrite retard, and >>>>>your opinions are useless.
Nothing you say has any consequence beyond the entertainment value.
You are a very entertaining freakshow.
Failure to address the comparison of gun rights claims to abortion
rights claims noted.
I doubt anyone cares what freak shows like you notice.
You have no fucking clue, who I am.
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
:-D "the leftists" bogeyman :-D
:-D "Nice" rebuttal, Chris A.
Have you taken the time to watch those videos, yet? :-D
(whack-job nonsense snipped)
Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
(whack-job nonsense snipped)
Wow. 180 degrees from reality.
When you see an elephant, do you think that "deeper thoughts" are
required to know what it is?
No response to my post, I noticed. These leftists, these
collectivists, think that your children belong to the state. The
state will "support" their journey. The family is the enemy and must
be kept in the dark about what's going on.
Have you taken the time to watch those videos, yet? :-D
Have you taken the time to show me it's worth my time?
chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Blue Lives Matter wrote:
Joel wrote:
what the slim majority did is just
outright illegal under the U.S. Constitution.
YA example of kooky Joel being *clearly wrong* on a legal issue.
Why, because Alito and Thomas told you I was wrong, you're a joke, I
am an authority beyond the Supreme Court itself. When I say the 14th amendment leans toward the pregnant female, and not the developing
child, it means that you should take that opinion to the fucking bank, because the Roe/Casey precedent will be reinstated.
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 15:51:37 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/6/2024 3:23 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 14:58:42 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/6/2024 2:54 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 14:42:13 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> >>>>> wrote:
On 1/6/2024 11:07 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 10:01:51 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 1/6/2024 9:49 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:Enablers are people who allow bad behavior by not objecting to it. In >>>>>>> this case, enabling might be where one agrees to use silly ridiculous >>>>>>> pronouns, or a worse case, officials who allow males to compete in >>>>>>> female athletic events and/or use female facilities.
On Sat, 06 Jan 2024 10:27:02 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>Authoritarian dictatorship by [my] kind?
loony wokies
We'd be better off with authoritarian dictatorship by your kind? >>>>>>>>>
No, I have no intention of telling anyone what to do as long as they >>>>>>>>> don't infringe on other people's rights. If you want to dance around >>>>>>>>> in women's clothes and act like a freak, it's none of my business as >>>>>>>>> long as you don't insist that I enable your delusions.
How are you being forced to enable what you believe is a delusion? >>>>>>>
Sometimes referred to as codependancy.
Your examples aren't of *you* being forced to enable.
Well, ....since I never said that I was being forced to enable.
You said, "it's none of my business as long as you don't insist that I >>>> enable your delusions."
Since you aren't being forced to enable, it's none of your business.
Nobody is forcing me to enable, *BUT* they do insist that everyone
(that includes me) enable their delusions. There's been one on this
forum that's been insisting, you seem to be in that camp also.
What's the difference between insist and force?
Insist: to be emphatic, firm, or resolute about something intended,
demanded, or required
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/insist
Force: to compel by physical, moral, or intellectual means https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/force
On 1/7/2024 2:11 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 15:51:37 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/6/2024 3:23 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 14:58:42 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> >>>> wrote:
On 1/6/2024 2:54 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 14:42:13 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 1/6/2024 11:07 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 10:01:51 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On 1/6/2024 9:49 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:Enablers are people who allow bad behavior by not objecting to it. In >>>>>>>> this case, enabling might be where one agrees to use silly ridiculous >>>>>>>> pronouns, or a worse case, officials who allow males to compete in >>>>>>>> female athletic events and/or use female facilities.
On Sat, 06 Jan 2024 10:27:02 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>Authoritarian dictatorship by [my] kind?
loony wokies
We'd be better off with authoritarian dictatorship by your kind? >>>>>>>>>>
No, I have no intention of telling anyone what to do as long as they >>>>>>>>>> don't infringe on other people's rights. If you want to dance around >>>>>>>>>> in women's clothes and act like a freak, it's none of my business as >>>>>>>>>> long as you don't insist that I enable your delusions.
How are you being forced to enable what you believe is a delusion? >>>>>>>>
Sometimes referred to as codependancy.
Your examples aren't of *you* being forced to enable.
Well, ....since I never said that I was being forced to enable.
You said, "it's none of my business as long as you don't insist that I >>>>> enable your delusions."
Since you aren't being forced to enable, it's none of your business.
Nobody is forcing me to enable, *BUT* they do insist that everyone
(that includes me) enable their delusions. There's been one on this
forum that's been insisting, you seem to be in that camp also.
What's the difference between insist and force?
Insist: to be emphatic, firm, or resolute about something intended,
demanded, or required
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/insist
Force: to compel by physical, moral, or intellectual means
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/force
Who is being emphatic, firm, resolute, demanding or requiring you to do >anything?
On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 09:01:05 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/7/2024 2:11 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 15:51:37 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/6/2024 3:23 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 14:58:42 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> >>>>> wrote:
On 1/6/2024 2:54 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:Nobody is forcing me to enable, *BUT* they do insist that everyone
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 14:42:13 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 1/6/2024 11:07 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 10:01:51 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 1/6/2024 9:49 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:Enablers are people who allow bad behavior by not objecting to it. In
On Sat, 06 Jan 2024 10:27:02 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>Authoritarian dictatorship by [my] kind?
loony wokies
We'd be better off with authoritarian dictatorship by your kind? >>>>>>>>>>>
No, I have no intention of telling anyone what to do as long as they
don't infringe on other people's rights. If you want to dance around
in women's clothes and act like a freak, it's none of my business as
long as you don't insist that I enable your delusions.
How are you being forced to enable what you believe is a delusion? >>>>>>>>>
this case, enabling might be where one agrees to use silly ridiculous >>>>>>>>> pronouns, or a worse case, officials who allow males to compete in >>>>>>>>> female athletic events and/or use female facilities.
Sometimes referred to as codependancy.
Your examples aren't of *you* being forced to enable.
Well, ....since I never said that I was being forced to enable.
You said, "it's none of my business as long as you don't insist that I >>>>>> enable your delusions."
Since you aren't being forced to enable, it's none of your business. >>>>>
(that includes me) enable their delusions. There's been one on this
forum that's been insisting, you seem to be in that camp also.
What's the difference between insist and force?
Insist: to be emphatic, firm, or resolute about something intended,
demanded, or required
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/insist
Force: to compel by physical, moral, or intellectual means
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/force
Who is being emphatic, firm, resolute, demanding or requiring you to do
anything?
https://blogs.illinois.edu/view/25/1559663297
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:unaj0p$g2pv$2@dont-email.me:
People are waking up an realizing that the trans movement is 1% or
less of the population and the number of truly gender dysphoric.
people is like .01% of the population.
So why are conservatives so afraid of them?
soup wrote:
Afraid is very much the wrong word, Fed-up would be a betterdoes that come with soup
description just fed-up of all the pussy-footing around them trying to
be 'nice' and not get called a "phobe" for the perfectly reasonable
attitude of not mutilating children.
Most people (myself included) do not care who puts what in who and
where they put it but draw the line at having to witness it writ large
(yes Pride [especially Kink] I am 'talking' to you) and standing idly
by when children are being mutilated.
Has anyone seem the YT vid of a child being offered an Oreo cookie
or $10,000 and they take the cookie, and yet children are considered,
by the alphabet people, that they can make sensible decisions about
mutilating their bodies.
On 07/01/2024 18:48, % wrote:
soup wrote:
Afraid is very much the wrong word, Fed-up would be a betterdoes that come with soup
description just fed-up of all the pussy-footing around them trying
to be 'nice' and not get called a "phobe" for the perfectly
reasonable attitude of not mutilating children.
Most people (myself included) do not care who puts what in who
and where they put it but draw the line at having to witness it writ
large (yes Pride [especially Kink] I am 'talking' to you) and
standing idly by when children are being mutilated.
Has anyone seem the YT vid of a child being offered an Oreo
cookie or $10,000 and they take the cookie, and yet children are
considered, by the alphabet people, that they can make sensible
decisions about mutilating their bodies.
Why are you such a cunt?
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/7/2024 1:48 AM, Joel wrote:
chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Joel wrote:
what the slim majority did is just
outright illegal under the U.S. Constitution.
YA example of kooky Joel being *clearly wrong* on a legal issue.
Why, because Alito and Thomas told you I was wrong, you're a joke, I
am an authority beyond the Supreme Court itself. When I say the 14th
amendment leans toward the pregnant female, and not the developing
child, it means that you should take that opinion to the fucking bank,
because the Roe/Casey precedent will be reinstated.
Given the makeup of the Court, it will take a generation or two. Given
the success at the polls, even in red states (Florida is very close to
having it on the ballot this year), it might not ever happen.
The point is, *I* will reinstate it.
Kooky Joel wrote:
The point is, *I* will reinstate it.
WTF? How will you do that?
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 1/7/2024 1:48 AM, Joel wrote:
chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Joel wrote:
what the slim majority did is just
outright illegal under the U.S. Constitution.
YA example of kooky Joel being *clearly wrong* on a legal issue.
Why, because Alito and Thomas told you I was wrong, you're a joke, I
am an authority beyond the Supreme Court itself. When I say the 14th
amendment leans toward the pregnant female, and not the developing
child, it means that you should take that opinion to the fucking bank,
because the Roe/Casey precedent will be reinstated.
Given the makeup of the Court, it will take a generation or two. Given
the success at the polls, even in red states (Florida is very close to >>having it on the ballot this year), it might not ever happen.
The point is, *I* will reinstate it. Unlike Trump, I'm not just
playing games for my own amusement, I'm trying to make the world
operate with sanity. The pro-life morons think Trump is their friend, >because he helped overturn Roe/Casey, but they will find it was short-
lived.
https://blogs.illinois.edu/view/25/1559663297
You are a Wisconsin 8th-grader?
<scientific facts snipped>
Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
<scientific facts snipped>
You have a lot more patience than I.
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
<scientific facts snipped>
Facts about about medical defects and aberrations.
For the Nth time, that is NOT what this issue is about.
You have a lot more patience than I.
I don't doubt that, since you care so little about the truth of this
issue, and how it affects children, that you won't spend a few hours
watching a thoughtful, informative documentary that was aired on Dutch television.
Even if some tiny fraction of people would benefit from
"transitioning", *far more* are being put on that path who should
*not*.
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
<scientific facts snipped>
Facts about about medical defects and aberrations.
For the Nth time, that is NOT what this issue is about.
You have a lot more patience than I.
I don't doubt that, since you care so little about the truth of this
issue, and how it affects children, that you won't spend a few hours
watching a thoughtful, informative documentary that was aired on Dutch television.
Even if some tiny fraction of people would benefit from
"transitioning", *far more* are being put on that path who should
*not*.
I don't think ...
Jim Gaffigan at the Golden Globes:
This is so exciting for me. The Golden Globes. I mean I, I can't even
believe I'm in the entertainment industry. I can't... it's so unlikely.
I'm from a small town in Indiana. I'm not a pedophile...
chrisv wrote:
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
You have a lot more patience than I.
I don't doubt that, since you care so little about the truth of this
issue, and how it affects children, that you won't spend a few hours
watching a thoughtful, informative documentary that was aired on Dutch
television.
I would prefer to scan the publications of the American Academy of Pediatrics.
Maybe maltreatment is more common in the Netherlands.
There are all kinds of things that affect children, like being beaten, or being
a victim of Munchausen-by-Proxy, like that Gypsy Rose kid who's mother got >killed.
The biggest killer of children is guns. Let us rue and prevent
the bad things that happen in all situations.
The biggest problem is not so much the fact
that they are doing so at the behest of the pharmaceutical industry
which wants as much lifetime customers as possible; it's that they are >prompted to mutilate or sterilize themselves by the people they trust
most in their parents. These people, devotees to the leftist message,
are willing to sacrifice their own children to score some points with
the influential members of the left.
RabidPedagog wrote:
The biggest problem is not so much the fact
that they are doing so at the behest of the pharmaceutical industry
which wants as much lifetime customers as possible; it's that they are >>prompted to mutilate or sterilize themselves by the people they trust
most in their parents. These people, devotees to the leftist message,
are willing to sacrifice their own children to score some points with
the influential members of the left.
Sometimes it's a parent pushing the child, yes. I think more often,
the parents are skeptical, but succumb to pressure from the doctors
and the confused kid. They use emotional blackmail, such as the
"suicide" threat, as if chemical castration and/or mutilation will
solve the kid's mental problems.
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
chrisv wrote:
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
You have a lot more patience than I.
I don't doubt that, since you care so little about the truth of this
issue, and how it affects children, that you won't spend a few hours
watching a thoughtful, informative documentary that was aired on Dutch
television.
I would prefer to scan the publications of the American Academy of Pediatrics.
Who are entirely captured by the left and follow WPATH
recommendations.
Why? There's a lot of money in it!
Those other bad things are not supported by the medical establishment.
They are not supported by our educational institututions. They are
not supported by politicians. They are not supported by the main
stream media. People are allowed to push back, to say of those other
things that they are bad, without being attacked as hateful bigots and
having their lives ruined.
The trans activists want to take your kid away from you, if you don't "affirm" the kid's "trans" delusions.
Here's a list of what these money-grubbing ghouls want to do to
children (and delusional adults) at a clinic in Cleveland...
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/procedures/gender-affirmation-surgery
Mutilation.
RabidPedagog wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
I don't think ...
Stop right there. :-)
On 1/9/2024 12:08 PM, RonB wrote:
Jim Gaffigan at the Golden Globes:
This is so exciting for me. The Golden Globes. I mean I, I can't even >> believe I'm in the entertainment industry. I can't... it's so
unlikely.
I'm from a small town in Indiana. I'm not a pedophile...
"Hollywood is filled with pedophiles!"
Such a lame, invalid meme spread by conspiracy losers.
On 2024-01-09, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2024-01-09 8:33 a.m., chrisv wrote:
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
<scientific facts snipped>
Facts about about medical defects and aberrations.
For the Nth time, that is NOT what this issue is about.
You have a lot more patience than I.
I don't doubt that, since you care so little about the truth of this
issue, and how it affects children, that you won't spend a few hours
watching a thoughtful, informative documentary that was aired on Dutch
television.
Even if some tiny fraction of people would benefit from
"transitioning", *far more* are being put on that path who should
*not*.
+1
I don't think that Chris cares that children as young as 5 are being
conditioned to believe that they are in the wrong body and prompted to
ruin their entire lives. The biggest problem is not so much the fact
that they are doing so at the behest of the pharmaceutical industry
which wants as much lifetime customers as possible; it's that they are
prompted to mutilate or sterilize themselves by the people they trust
most in their parents. These people, devotees to the leftist message,
are willing to sacrifice their own children to score some points with
the influential members of the left.
Jim Gaffigan at the Golden Globes:
This is so exciting for me. The Golden Globes. I mean I, I can't even
believe I'm in the entertainment industry. I can't... it's so unlikely.
I'm from a small town in Indiana. I'm not a pedophile...
RabidPedagog wrote:
The biggest problem is not so much the fact
that they are doing so at the behest of the pharmaceutical industry
which wants as much lifetime customers as possible; it's that they are
prompted to mutilate or sterilize themselves by the people they trust
most in their parents. These people, devotees to the leftist message,
are willing to sacrifice their own children to score some points with
the influential members of the left.
Sometimes it's a parent pushing the child, yes.
I think more often,
the parents are skeptical, but succumb to pressure from the doctors
and the confused kid. They use emotional blackmail, such as the
"suicide" threat, as if chemical castration and/or mutilation will
solve the kid's mental problems.
chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
RabidPedagog wrote:
The biggest problem is not so much the fact
that they are doing so at the behest of the pharmaceutical industry
which wants as much lifetime customers as possible; it's that they are
prompted to mutilate or sterilize themselves by the people they trust
most in their parents. These people, devotees to the leftist message,
are willing to sacrifice their own children to score some points with
the influential members of the left.
Sometimes it's a parent pushing the child, yes. I think more often,
the parents are skeptical, but succumb to pressure from the doctors
and the confused kid. They use emotional blackmail, such as the
"suicide" threat, as if chemical castration and/or mutilation will
solve the kid's mental problems.
And the science shows that in many cases, it works.
On 2024-01-09 12:30 p.m., DFS wrote:
On 1/9/2024 12:08 PM, RonB wrote:
Jim Gaffigan at the Golden Globes:
This is so exciting for me. The Golden Globes. I mean I, I can't even >>> believe I'm in the entertainment industry. I can't... it's so
unlikely.
I'm from a small town in Indiana. I'm not a pedophile...
"Hollywood is filled with pedophiles!"
Such a lame, invalid meme spread by conspiracy losers.
American politics and Hollywood are both filled with pedophiles.
On 1/10/2024 10:08 AM, RabidPedagog wrote:
On 2024-01-09 12:30 p.m., DFS wrote:
On 1/9/2024 12:08 PM, RonB wrote:
Jim Gaffigan at the Golden Globes:
This is so exciting for me. The Golden Globes. I mean I, I can't
even
believe I'm in the entertainment industry. I can't... it's so
unlikely.
I'm from a small town in Indiana. I'm not a pedophile...
"Hollywood is filled with pedophiles!"
Such a lame, invalid meme spread by conspiracy losers.
American politics and Hollywood are both filled with pedophiles.
Your household is filled with conspiracy lamers. So is owl's. So is
the Republican party (which has become a huge do-nothing embarrassment
since Trump).
On 2024-01-10, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2024-01-09 12:30 p.m., DFS wrote:
On 1/9/2024 12:08 PM, RonB wrote:
Jim Gaffigan at the Golden Globes:
This is so exciting for me. The Golden Globes. I mean I, I can't even
believe I'm in the entertainment industry. I can't... it's so
unlikely.
I'm from a small town in Indiana. I'm not a pedophile...
"Hollywood is filled with pedophiles!"
Such a lame, invalid meme spread by conspiracy losers.
American politics and Hollywood are both filled with pedophiles.
Figures DuFuS would be defending the Hollywood perverts.
On 2024-01-10, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2024-01-09 12:30 p.m., DFS wrote:
On 1/9/2024 12:08 PM, RonB wrote:
Jim Gaffigan at the Golden Globes:
This is so exciting for me. The Golden Globes. I mean I, I can't even
believe I'm in the entertainment industry. I can't... it's so
unlikely.
I'm from a small town in Indiana. I'm not a pedophile...
"Hollywood is filled with pedophiles!"
Such a lame, invalid meme spread by conspiracy losers.
American politics and Hollywood are both filled with pedophiles.
Figures DuFuS would be defending the Hollywood perverts.
On 2024-01-09 11:49 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
RabidPedagog wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
I don't think ...
Stop right there. :-)
Says the guy who sees nothing wrong with parents allowing kids to self-mutilate.
On 2024-01-09 12:30 p.m., DFS wrote:
On 1/9/2024 12:08 PM, RonB wrote:
Jim Gaffigan at the Golden Globes:
This is so exciting for me. The Golden Globes. I mean I, I can't even >>> believe I'm in the entertainment industry. I can't... it's so
unlikely.
I'm from a small town in Indiana. I'm not a pedophile...
"Hollywood is filled with pedophiles!"
Such a lame, invalid meme spread by conspiracy losers.
American politics and Hollywood are both filled with pedophiles.
On 2024-01-09 5:20 p.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
RabidPedagog wrote:
The biggest problem is not so much the fact
that they are doing so at the behest of the pharmaceutical industry
which wants as much lifetime customers as possible; it's that they are >>>> prompted to mutilate or sterilize themselves by the people they trust
most in their parents. These people, devotees to the leftist message,
are willing to sacrifice their own children to score some points with
the influential members of the left.
Sometimes it's a parent pushing the child, yes. I think more often,
the parents are skeptical, but succumb to pressure from the doctors
and the confused kid. They use emotional blackmail, such as the
"suicide" threat, as if chemical castration and/or mutilation will
solve the kid's mental problems.
And the science shows that in many cases, it works.
49% of people who go through with it commit suicide. The majority of
those who don't regret that they went through with it. Is that a success
rate you would be proud of?
Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux)
X-User-Agent: Microsoft Outl00k, Usenet K00k Editions
X-Slrn: Why use anything else?
To answer that question, I had to review the process of using slrn.
Yeesh, what a nightmare. And I thought I was dumbfounded by Wine as
offered by the package managers never working, at least that had clear instructions on installation from the command line, slrn is just
arcane as hell, makes using a Winblows GUI NNTP app under Wine seem
easy.
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
However, American boys are routinely mutilated by circumcision.
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
However, American boys are routinely mutilated by circumcision.
OMG. Get a grip, man. Is that anything like a girl having her
breasts cut off? Sheesh!
RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2024-01-11, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
Joel wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux)
X-User-Agent: Microsoft Outl00k, Usenet K00k Editions
X-Slrn: Why use anything else?
To answer that question, I had to review the process of using slrn.
Yeesh, what a nightmare. And I thought I was dumbfounded by Wine as
offered by the package managers never working, at least that had clear >>>> instructions on installation from the command line, slrn is just
arcane as hell, makes using a Winblows GUI NNTP app under Wine seem
easy.
I like slrn. And mutt. Both are amazingly configurable, and fast to use once
set up. I set them up to use vi-like keys.
As a side benefit I can use them in a terminal window, with tmux, and over SSH
if I need to.
Learning slrn is not difficult. Instead of "reviewing the process" Joel >>should have just installed slrn and worked with it. That's the way you >>really learn, by doing, not "reviewing."
I use Jstar in slrn, because I've used WordStar keystrokes for close to 50 >>years.
I did install it, but to configure it was a bunch of arcane crap like
I'm running it on a shell account, reminding me of why they invented
the GUI 40 years ago.
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
However, American boys are routinely mutilated by circumcision.
OMG. Get a grip, man. Is that anything like a girl having her
breasts cut off? Sheesh!
On 2024-01-11 8:08 a.m., chrisv wrote:
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
However, American boys are routinely mutilated by circumcision.
OMG. Get a grip, man. Is that anything like a girl having her
breasts cut off? Sheesh!
There's no reasoning with Ahlstrom. I'll be skipping his idiotic posts
from now on.
chrisv wrote:
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
However, American boys are routinely mutilated by circumcision.
OMG. Get a grip, man. Is that anything like a girl having her
breasts cut off? Sheesh!
How about we subject you to it? Cuts both ways. Get it? Get it? :-D
And I supposed you think infibulation is a minor thing as well?
involved...
On 10/01/2024 15:07, RabidPedagog wrote:
It looks like the Clintons and Trump were also
involved...
I'm sure you will have some cite that shows Trump was involved.
Don't get me wrong I have no love of Trump but he does seem to be lambasted with critiques but none of them ever stick, are the Dems in
danger of being seen as anti-Trump (and accusing him of EVERYTHING) but
with no real proofs other than he was a (none too popular ) Republican leader.
On 1/13/24 06:57, soup wrote:Ah right, so you "don't believe", that's me convinced.
On 10/01/2024 15:07, RabidPedagog wrote:
It looks like the Clintons and Trump were also
involved...
I'm sure you will have some cite that shows Trump was involved.
It is based on the testimony of the same person who pointed to Bill
Clinton as being involved. In the dialogue, it seems that Epstein and
Trump were a lot closer than the former president suggests. However, everything is unproven at this point. I simply don't believe in Trump's virtue because this is the same man who _proudly_ pushed poisonous
"vaccines" on the public, locked down a whole country and offered
premiums to states which would do so all the while claiming that someone
else was forcing him.
It's becoming fairly clear to me that there are very few politicians in
the United States who actually care about the country and its people. It doesn't matter if they are Democrat or Republican, they're all
worthless.
On 13/01/2024 12:42, RabidPedagog wrote:
On 1/13/24 06:57, soup wrote:
On 10/01/2024 15:07, RabidPedagog wrote:
It looks like the Clintons and Trump were also
involved...
I'm sure you will have some cite that shows Trump was involved.
It is based on the testimony of the same person who pointed to Bill
Clinton as being involved. In the dialogue, it seems that Epstein and
Trump were a lot closer than the former president suggests. However,
everything is unproven at this point. I simply don't believe in
Trump's virtue because this is the same man who _proudly_ pushed
poisonous "vaccines" on the public, locked down a whole country and
offered premiums to states which would do so all the while claiming
that someone else was forcing him.
Ah right, so you "don't believe", that's me convinced.
Unproven, and yet you come on here and spout that the vaccines were poisonous.
Aside :-
Do you feel this applies just to the Covid vaccine or all vaccines.
There were a lot of politicians that forced lock-downs and mask
mandates I think they should ALL be judged for that.
It's becoming fairly clear to me that there are very few politicians
in the United States who actually care about the country and its
people. It doesn't matter if they are Democrat or Republican, they're
all worthless.
Widen this to all countries and all parties and I will agree with you on this.
On 2024-01-14 06:59, soup wrote:
Ah right, so you "don't believe", that's me convinced.
I'm saying that the allegations have been made but much like with
Clinton, no concrete proof has been offered. I'm not looking to convince
you anyway. Believe what you want.
On 14/01/2024 13:47, RabidPedagog wrote:
On 2024-01-14 06:59, soup wrote:
Ah right, so you "don't believe", that's me convinced.
I'm saying that the allegations have been made but much like with
Clinton, no concrete proof has been offered. I'm not looking to convince
you anyway. Believe what you want.
I do not believe anything I am of the wait and see persuasion.
Rather than come onto newsgroups and state things as fact I would rather
wait for proof.
Ach well time will tell.
But at the moment I see a lot more about Clinton connected to
Epstein than Trump.
On 2024-01-14, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
soup wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
On 14/01/2024 13:47, RabidPedagog wrote:
On 2024-01-14 06:59, soup wrote:
Ah right, so you "don't believe", that's me convinced.
I'm saying that the allegations have been made but much like with
Clinton, no concrete proof has been offered. I'm not looking to convince >>>> you anyway. Believe what you want.
I do not believe anything I am of the wait and see persuasion.
Rather than come onto newsgroups and state things as fact I would rather >>> wait for proof.
Ach well time will tell.
But at the moment I see a lot more about Clinton connected to
Epstein than Trump.
Clinton was a far more effective president, but some of the sexual pecadillos
revealed were as dismaying as those of Trump.
Don't agree. Trump's sexual issues were in the past tense. Clinton's were during his time in office, with fellow government employee.
Clinton was also accused of rape (at least once) and who knows what crap he was involved in at Epstein's island. I'm guessing he didn't go there for a suntan.
On 14/01/2024 13:47, RabidPedagog wrote:
On 2024-01-14 06:59, soup wrote:
Ah right, so you "don't believe", that's me convinced.
I'm saying that the allegations have been made but much like with
Clinton, no concrete proof has been offered. I'm not looking to
convince you anyway. Believe what you want.
I do not believe anything I am of the wait and see persuasion.
Rather than come onto newsgroups and state things as fact I would rather
wait for proof.
Ach well time will tell.
But at the moment I see a lot more about Clinton connected to Epstein than Trump.
On 2024-01-15, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2024-01-14 1:49 p.m., soup wrote:
On 14/01/2024 13:47, RabidPedagog wrote:
On 2024-01-14 06:59, soup wrote:
Ah right, so you "don't believe", that's me convinced.
I'm saying that the allegations have been made but much like with
Clinton, no concrete proof has been offered. I'm not looking to
convince you anyway. Believe what you want.
I do not believe anything I am of the wait and see persuasion.
Rather than come onto newsgroups and state things as fact I would rather >>> wait for proof.
Ach well time will tell.
But at the moment I see a lot more about Clinton connected to >>> Epstein than Trump.
A mere few weeks ago, I would have agreed with you. I guess I'm slightly
biased because I enjoy listening to David Knight and he's very much
anti-Trump. On his show, he ran down the evidence against Trump and
determined that the guy was no more innocent than Bill Clinton was. He
made his conclusion based on what was said by Epstein's former victim in
her interview which is little more than a suggestion that Epstein and
Trump regularly hung out.
When I was young and Reagan was running for president, some of the people I knew wouldn't vote for him because he had divorced and remarried. What Trump (and Clinton) did would have have immediately disqualified them in most people's minds at the time. It probably would have hurt Clinton's run for president also, if people had known about it. By the time Trump came along everyone was so jaded that it no longer mattered.
How is that different from Hitler's outlook, dude? Come on, just get
with the times, you're better than that, I think. I refuse to believe
you guys are really that racist. I hate white* people but I don't
spend time thinking about it, obsessing over it.
On 15/01/2024 23:39, Joel wrote:
How is that different from Hitler's outlook, dude? Come on, just get
with the times, you're better than that, I think. I refuse to believe
you guys are really that racist. I hate white* people but I don't
spend time thinking about it, obsessing over it.
Call's others racist then comes out with lines like "I hate all white people".
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