• A Lesson in the GUI Wrapper

    From Lester Thorpe@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 21 09:48:54 2023
    When it comes to burning a CD, the word that issues forth
    from the Linux distro asshole is usually "Asunder."

    Check it out:

    http://littlesvr.ca/asunder/

    But what is it really? Scroll to the page bottom and one
    will find "Dependencies." These are the programs, all
    command-line driven (CLI), that Asunder uses to do its job.
    IOW, Asunder is merely a pretty wrapper around these highly
    functional CLI utilities.

    The question is why can't these distro assholes use the
    CLI utilities directly and eschew the unnecessary GUI?

    The answer is because they are all dummies to the core and
    desperately require the pretty ersatz "buttons" provided
    by Asunder and many other similar GUI wrappers. (Actually,
    this GUI looks like fucking shit.)

    These distro assholes are also the reason GNOME/KDE et.al.
    are literally destroying the GNU/Linux environment through
    an enforced Microslop emulation.

    Listen! If you want Microslop then use Microslop. Don't
    drag GNU/Linux down to your dummy level.

    Learn to use the fucking command line and learn to love it.

    Or else get the fuck out.


    Lester has spoken.

    Disagree? You'll soon be chokin'.

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  • From DFS@21:1/5 to Lyin' Larry Piet aka "Lester Thorpe on Thu Dec 21 10:07:14 2023
    On 12/21/2023 4:48 AM, Lyin' Larry Piet aka "Lester Thorpe" wrote:


    The question is why can't these distro assholes use the
    CLI utilities directly and eschew the unnecessary GUI?

    The answer is because they are all dummies to the core and
    desperately require the pretty ersatz "buttons" provided
    by Asunder and many other similar GUI wrappers.

    The real question is "Why can't YOU?"


    User-Agent: Pan/0.150 (All GUI, all the time)


    Good one, dbl-talking idiot!

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  • From DFS@21:1/5 to Joel on Thu Dec 21 10:22:41 2023
    On 12/21/2023 10:14 AM, Joel wrote:
    DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
    On 12/21/2023 4:48 AM, Lyin' Larry Piet aka "Lester Thorpe" wrote:

    The question is why can't these distro assholes use the
    CLI utilities directly and eschew the unnecessary GUI?

    The answer is because they are all dummies to the core and
    desperately require the pretty ersatz "buttons" provided
    by Asunder and many other similar GUI wrappers.

    The real question is "Why can't YOU?"


    User-Agent: Pan/0.150 (All GUI, all the time)


    Good one, dbl-talking idiot!


    I don't get the point he tried to make, even in the abstract, there
    are things I do with the command line and things I do with the GUI,
    what the fuck does it matter?

    "REAL MEN" like Feeb use the command line at all times... well, except
    for when a GUI saves them lots of time and hassles. Then they're OK.

    Rules for thee and not for me, you know.



    Are they mutually exclusive? What a
    retarded rant, Russell, as usual, made.

    It's Tittyless Thursday at the Feeb household, and he's sexually frustrated.

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  • From RabidPedagog@21:1/5 to DFS on Thu Dec 21 10:29:09 2023
    On 2023-12-21 10:16 a.m., DFS wrote:
    On 12/21/2023 4:48 AM, Lameass Larry Pietraskiewicz aka "Lester Thorpe" wrote:

    The question is why can't these distro assholes use the
    CLI utilities directly and eschew the unnecessary GUI?


    If you were a "REAL MAN" you'd be posting from a GPL-licensed,
    Linux-only, CLI news client of your own creation.

    In the time it took you to write that, he's already coded one!

    Instead, you're 100% dependent on the crutch of GUI newsreaders, like
    Pan and Google Groups.

    It's a mirage!

    --
    @RabidPedagog

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  • From DFS@21:1/5 to Lord Master on Thu Dec 21 11:10:03 2023
    On 12/21/2023 10:39 AM, Lord Master wrote:
    On Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 10:07:14 AM UTC-5, DFS wrote:

    The answer is because they are all dummies to the core and
    desperately require the pretty ersatz "buttons" provided
    by Asunder and many other similar GUI wrappers.
    The real question is "Why can't YOU?"

    User-Agent: Pan/0.150 (All GUI, all the time)


    Ahahahahaha! Another masterstroke of idiocy by the infinite idiot.

    This clown has been on an idiot roll since 2002 -- B.C.E.!!!

    Now, put your dunce cap on and sit in the corner while repeating
    to yourself: "Pan is not a wrapper."

    Got that? Pan is not a fucking *wrapper*.

    Got that? This thread is about fucking GUI wrappers.

    WRAPPERS. Got that? Pan does not "wrap" anything.

    Sheesh! These idiots never sleep.



    "pan is a program that can be run headless in non-GUI mode, allowing
    for batch processing of NZB files, downloading headers, and more."

    https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jammy/man1/pan.1.html


    Your lameass "programming is not coding" and "GUIs are different from
    GUI wrappers" excuses will NEVER get by me, hypocrite.

    Now go click some colorful purty buttons on your Pan GUI and send your
    next pathetic rationalization.

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  • From DFS@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 21 10:16:50 2023
    On 12/21/2023 4:48 AM, Lameass Larry Pietraskiewicz aka "Lester Thorpe"
    wrote:

    The question is why can't these distro assholes use the
    CLI utilities directly and eschew the unnecessary GUI?


    If you were a "REAL MAN" you'd be posting from a GPL-licensed,
    Linux-only, CLI news client of your own creation.

    Instead, you're 100% dependent on the crutch of GUI newsreaders, like
    Pan and Google Groups.

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to lordiemassa@gmail.com on Thu Dec 21 18:54:52 2023
    On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 08:46:51 -0800 (PST), Lord Master
    <lordiemassa@gmail.com> wrote in <a20e4514-7cea-46d2-b613-8e620197b28fn@googlegroups.com>:

    On Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 11:10:03 AM UTC-5, DFS wrote:

    Your lameass "programming is not coding" and "GUIs are different from
    GUI wrappers" excuses will NEVER get by me, hypocrite.


    Folks, the Fail Machine just keeps on cranking them out.

    Now, read and weep:

    "In the context of software engineering, a wrapper is defined as an
    entity that encapsulates and hides the underlying complexity of another entity by means of well-defined interfaces."

    https://www.techopedia.com/definition/4389/wrapper-software-engineering

    I hope that there are not too many syllables in the above exceprt for
    the idiot to handle. Ahahahahahahahaha!

    But as any non-idiot can clearly see, Asunder qualifies as a wrapper
    whereas Pan does not.

    So what does Asunder wrap, Genius?

    You seem to be saying that if a program uses a set of standard
    libraries, that's a "wrapper". Get bent, Weirdo.

    --
    -v

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Fri Dec 22 10:24:30 2023
    XPost: sci.physics

    On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 18:37:14 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/21/2023 9:16 AM, DFS wrote:
    If you were a "REAL MAN" you'd be


    See, that's a female brain. And around Penismas, it gets packed with hormones.


    You got it. The DuFuS Supremus definitely possesses a female brain.

    Human females have absolutely no innate technical ability. They can
    be taught a few technical tricks here and there but they cannot
    deeply understand technology in a natural sense.

    It's the same with the DuFuS Supremus. He cannot even comprehend
    the simple, though subtle, idea of a software "wrapper" and he displays
    a technical blindness in everything that he utters.

    The DuFuS Supremus needs to start wearing panty hose and a dress.

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  • From DFS@21:1/5 to you drooled and lied and on Fri Dec 22 09:06:14 2023
    On 12/22/2023 5:24 AM, Feeb++ aka "Farley Flud" wrote:


    It's the same with the DuFuS Supremus. He cannot even comprehend
    the simple, though subtle, idea of a software "wrapper"


    You use a variety of tech terms VERY loosely, thinking you can justify
    whatever definition you give them at the time. "wrapper", for instance:


    Used loosely:

    * "Mint is essentially a bloated GUI wrapper around the basic OS
    functionality"

    * "[ShareX is] just another wrapper for ffmpeg."

    * "A browser is nothing more than a GUI wrapper around a rendering
    engine."

    * "[Gimp is] only a GUI wrapper around individual tools."

    * "Photoshop is nothing more than a GUI wrapper around standard
    image processing methods."

    * "Pan is not a wrapper."


    Used strictly:

    * "Asunder is a "wrapper" in the absolute, totally true sense of the
    term."


    Here come 2 goodies:

    * "glibc, which is the basic library used by most software,
    is essentially a "wrapper" around the Linux system calls."

    * "GLIBC is far more than just a wrapper around the kernel system
    calls."


    heh! Which is it, bozo?

    It's both, of course, because you "contain multitudes" and think you're
    allowed to constantly contradict yourself, or warp the meaning of
    technical terms to justify your idiocy.

    And when I showed you how the Pan GUI is in fact a wrapper for some
    command line functionality, you drooled and lied and said "Pan does not
    "wrap" anything."




    and he displays a technical blindness in everything that he utters.


    You're a technical elite. I know this because you told us 1000x. And
    you demonstrated it with code you insisted was 'wonderfully perfect and
    highly efficient':

    /* free all strarray elements */
    for(i = 0; i < rec_count; i++) {
    free(data[i]->field1);
    free(data[i]->field2);
    free(data[i]->field3);
    free(data[i]);
    i++;
    }


    heh!

    Feeb++ at his finest.

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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to Farley Flud on Fri Dec 22 07:19:49 2023
    XPost: sci.physics

    Farley Flud wrote:

    The DuFuS Supremus definitely possesses a female brain.

    I disagree. He's far too shitty.

    Similar to the mentally-ill POS "flatfish", who used to troll cola and
    who liked to pretend to be a woman. But no woman would spew such vile
    garbage as he did.

    --
    "Why does the Linux community accept faggots and homosexuals?
    Seems Linux and freaks go together well." - "flatfish"

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  • From DFS@21:1/5 to Lameass Larry Piet aka "Lord Master on Fri Dec 22 09:16:05 2023
    On 12/21/2023 11:46 AM, Lameass Larry Piet aka "Lord Master" wrote:

    On Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 11:10:03 AM UTC-5, DFS wrote:

    Your lameass "programming is not coding" and "GUIs are different from
    GUI wrappers" excuses will NEVER get by me, hypocrite.


    Folks, the Fail Machine just keeps on cranking them out.

    Now, read and weep:

    "In the context of software engineering, a wrapper is defined as an
    entity that encapsulates and hides the underlying complexity of
    another entity by means of well-defined interfaces."

    https://www.techopedia.com/definition/4389/wrapper-software-engineering

    "underlying complexity" is why you require a GUI Usenet client.



    I hope that there are not too many syllables in the above exceprt for the idiot
    to handle. Ahahahahahahahaha!


    excerpt has 2 syllables.

    exceprt would have 3 if it were a word.



    But as any non-idiot can clearly see, Asunder qualifies as a wrapper whereas Pan does not.

    "pan is a program that can be run headless in non-GUI mode, allowing for
    batch processing of NZB files, downloading headers, and more."

    Explain how the pan GUI doesn't qualify as a wrapper.



    The case is closed.

    You clearly closed the case on using CLI for Usenet:

    User-Agent: G2/1.0

    LOL! Let's hear it for the most braindead Usenet GUI there is - Google
    G2! Perfect for dum-dums.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 22 19:02:36 2023
    Le 21-12-2023, Lester Thorpe <lt@gnu.rocks> a écrit :

    Disagree?

    Yes, of course, like anyone else.

    You'll soon be chokin'.

    Yes, of laughing at your messages.

    --
    Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
    https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to DFS on Fri Dec 22 19:26:44 2023
    On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 09:06:14 -0500, DFS wrote:


    You use a variety of tech terms VERY loosely, thinking you can justify whatever definition you give them at the time. "wrapper", for instance:

    <snip various spurious quotations>


    Nope. Wrong yet again.

    I never said ANY of those things. None. Zip. Nada.

    You are obviously the victim of IMPOSTERS.

    The Internet, being open and anonymous, abounds with imposters, fakes,
    and phonies.

    If one meets a 10-year-old girl that wants to fuck, that ain't no
    10-year-old girl. That's an imposter.

    There are imposters all over the place that seek suckers -- and
    that's your middle name: sucker.

    So, for the record, I will make my one-and-only genuine statement
    once again:

    Asunder is a cheap GUI wrapper.

    Pan is not a GUI wrapper.

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Fri Dec 22 20:08:43 2023
    XPost: sci.physics

    On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 12:31:52 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:


    Female brain is wired differently from those of men, making them opt for different ways of handling any situation. It's been necessary to be so,
    for both men and women.


    Another excellent statement!

    Any even moderately perceptive male who has ever spent significant time
    with various women will inevitably come to that conclusion.

    Women who are inclined to technical areas are obviously seriously
    disturbed queers (they got their wires crossed) and should be avoided.
    They are what psychoanalysts call the "castrating bitch."

    The "progressive" liberal man is also obviously a male of very low
    perceptual ability to not have observed these undeniable facts.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 22 20:44:30 2023
    XPost: sci.physics

    Le 22-12-2023, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
    On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 12:31:52 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:


    Female brain is wired differently from those of men, making them opt for
    different ways of handling any situation. It's been necessary to be so,
    for both men and women.


    Another excellent statement!

    Yes, I saw it before: another point where you two late brain dead
    agreed. For you it looks like your mom is the issue. For him, it's
    probably more about his education. He heard, from his birth, that women
    must be kept closed at all time, so he's wired to believe that.

    Any even moderately perceptive male who has ever spent significant time
    with various women

    You only know your mother, she is only one and can't be called various
    women by herself.

    will inevitably come to that conclusion.

    In some countries, a man doesn't spent time with various women. He would
    be killed if he tried.

    Women who are inclined to technical areas are obviously seriously
    disturbed queers (they got their wires crossed) and should be avoided.
    They are what psychoanalysts call the "castrating bitch."

    I believe you call her "mother". You are confused with women I believe
    your mother is part of the issue. But all women are not like your
    mother.

    The "progressive"

    You are stuck in the past. You can't be progressive and you can't
    understand progressiveness.

    --
    Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
    https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 22 20:58:06 2023
    XPost: sci.physics

    Le 22-12-2023, Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> a écrit :

    I hardly ever need to use my head.

    That's easy to believe. I believe you wouldn't be able to use it if you
    want too. That's why you agree so easily with FR/NV/FF/LP/whatever.

    --
    Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
    https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Fri Dec 22 21:48:06 2023
    XPost: sci.physics

    On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 15:34:10 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:


    Back then when we were mighty predator fuckers, I and an Iranian friend
    in the Humanities Dept were seeking just such females to fuck them :-))))


    They are good for a quick fuck, but for a long-term (life-long ?)
    relationship forget it.

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  • From DFS@21:1/5 to Lyin' Larry Piet aka "Farley Flud" on Fri Dec 22 18:11:45 2023
    On 12/22/2023 2:26 PM, Lyin' Larry Piet aka "Farley Flud" wrote:

    On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 09:06:14 -0500, DFS wrote:


    You use a variety of tech terms VERY loosely, thinking you can justify
    whatever definition you give them at the time. "wrapper", for instance:

    <snip various spurious quotations>


    Nope. Wrong yet again.

    I never said ANY of those things. None. Zip. Nada.

    You said all 9 of them, verbatim, except for the few bracketed words I
    inserted for brevity.

    Denying your quotes is beneath even a Linux luser like you. It's a
    variant of Snittishness, and it doesn't get any lower than that.


    So, for the record, I will make my one-and-only genuine statement
    once again:

    Asunder is a cheap GUI wrapper.

    Pan is not a GUI wrapper.

    The statement is genuine (yes you made it), but the statement is also
    very much incorrect, seeing as how there's no accepted definition of
    "GUI wrapper". Thus you wing it and use your various definitions,
    depending on which argument you're losing at the time.

    Another day, another big Feeb fail.

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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to Joel on Fri Dec 22 18:23:41 2023
    XPost: sci.physics

    Joel wrote:

    chrisv wrote:

    Farley Flud wrote:

    The DuFuS Supremus definitely possesses a female brain.

    I disagree. He's far too shitty.

    Similar to the mentally-ill POS "flatfish", who used to troll cola and
    who liked to pretend to be a woman. But no woman would spew such vile >>garbage as he did.

    (kookery snipped)

    "Transgender women" are men, so would.

    --
    "Modifying open source by an end user is a total waste of time." -
    some piece of shit that called itself "GreyCloud"

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to DFS on Sat Dec 23 10:58:10 2023
    On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 18:11:45 -0500, DFS wrote:


    I never said ANY of those things. None. Zip. Nada.

    You said all 9 of them, verbatim, except for the few bracketed words I inserted for brevity.


    Nope. I never said ANY of those things. None. Zip. Nada.

    I keep a record of everything and I know.

    Are you calling me a liar, you goddamned motherfucker?

    In the world of REAL MEN, TRUE MEN, VIRILE MEN, impugning
    another man's character calls for nothing less that a deadly
    force response. That's a DEADLY FORCE RESPONSE.

    But you do not inhabit such a world. You are a pansy, a sissy,
    a fairy.

    If you dare to imply that I am a liar, you'd best prepare
    for a deadly force response.

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Dec 23 13:00:42 2023
    XPost: sci.physics

    On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 16:27:11 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:


    They were just fuck pieces for me and him, and that's what they wanted
    too, just being fuck pieces. But this was my conclusions that were made
    then, before more experience or later thoughts.


    You are fortunate not to have become infected with herpes or papilloma.
    Those are viral infections and will remain with you forever. There
    is no cure.

    Papilloma is rampant among American females. About 20% of all females
    have it, which means that about 80% of the hottest bitches have it --
    and most of those don't even know it.

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  • From DFS@21:1/5 to Larry Pietraskiewicz aka "Farley Fl on Sat Dec 23 10:42:35 2023
    On 12/23/2023 5:58 AM, Larry Pietraskiewicz aka "Farley Flud" wrote:
    On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 18:11:45 -0500, DFS wrote:


    I never said ANY of those things. None. Zip. Nada.

    You said all 9 of them, verbatim, except for the few bracketed words I
    inserted for brevity.


    Nope. I never said ANY of those things. None. Zip. Nada.

    I keep a record of everything and I know.

    Then your "record of everything" is extremely faulty. And there are
    more than 9 quotes about "wrappers"; those were just samples that
    displayed your greasy and loose definition-shifting.



    Are you calling me a liar, you goddamned motherfucker?

    Yes. A bald-faced liar. Not just on this issue, but on many other
    topics you've addressed on cola thru the years.




    In the world of REAL MEN, TRUE MEN, VIRILE MEN, impugning
    another man's character calls for nothing less that a deadly
    force response. That's a DEADLY FORCE RESPONSE.

    You don't have a character that can be impugned. You know that.



    But you do not inhabit such a world. You are a pansy, a sissy,
    a fairy.

    If you dare to imply that I am a liar, you'd best prepare
    for a deadly force response.


    Now's not the right time, but when I've taken care of some unfinished
    things in life, we can definitely make a deadly force confrontation a
    reality.

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Dec 23 19:07:18 2023
    XPost: sci.physics

    On Sat, 23 Dec 2023 12:17:30 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:


    And you're mistaken about those feminists, some of which were quite hot
    as well. They were indeed the safest among women with which you could
    have sex,


    Not necessarily.

    I had a relationship with some feminist bitch and she told me that
    she had herpes. She also said that she was not infective unless
    she had a flare up. I trusted her (but it more my testicular refusal
    to back down). Anyway, I got away clean.

    Then another feminist bitch told me that she had papilloma, but
    she also said that she was cured following laser therapy. My testicles
    got the better of me but as soon as I got home the next day I thoroughly
    washed my genitals in the shower with copious amounts of soap and water.

    So far, so good. But I am unwilling to trust these stupid feminist
    bitches anymore.

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  • From %@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 25 09:43:33 2023
    XPost: sci.physics

    In article <5d4boih3koleg4c921et7p34v6rj5l2si8@4ax.com>, joelcrump@gmail.com says...

    chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    Farley Flud wrote:

    The DuFuS Supremus definitely possesses a female brain.

    I disagree. He's far too shitty.

    Similar to the mentally-ill POS "flatfish", who used to troll cola and
    who liked to pretend to be a woman. But no woman would spew such vile >garbage as he did.


    Transgender women would not, either. But you're a phobe of them.


    https://postimg.cc/5HsQQBTK

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