What the friggin' fuck is going on here???!!!
My fantastic thread has been hijacked by these ABYSMAL FUCKING
LOSERS!
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
But I won't vote
for Trump, or anyone who supports him.
Cool.
It can be argued that it _became_ the Jews' land when they
successfully managed to defend it, but they should never have been there
in the first place.
Second exception.
Le 15-10-2023, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> a écrit :
It can be argued that it _became_ the Jews' land when they
successfully managed to defend it, but they should never have been there
in the first place.
What do you mean by "in the first place"? Three thousand years ago?
Really, I don't care about your answer. The issue is very, very old.
Relying in the past to claim actual legitimacy is just useless (the percentage of Jews changed during the years). The only thing which can
be done is to see what is now and to try to know what can be done for a bright future. It wont be easy but war is not a valid answer.
Remember, the empty lands are very limited. When you see that Israel's
land is fucking garbage, not really better than desert, if you want to
put the Jews in a desert you'll have the same issues with different
people.
Le 17-10-2023, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> a écrit :
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
But I won't vote
for Trump, or anyone who supports him.
Cool.
Why? I don't like what I see here on politics. So I don't read a lot of political arguments. But with the numbers, I have to read some of them.
And I don't have an habit to speak about it. I'll make an exception.
It's really a different thing between France and USA from what I read
here and in some other places.
In the US, that's why I say all political speech is crap here: you have
two enemy camps. You can't live together. You can't speak together. You
can only insult yourselves. Half of the country believe Trump is good
when the other half believe Biden is good. Half of the country has
really good arguments to hate Trump. Half of the country has really good arguments to hate Biden. It's not difficult they are both garbage.
The only good thing which can be said about Trump is: he's the only US president who didn't invade countries killing people for their own good.
In France, it's very different. All political leaders are crap (like in
the US), but at least, nobody believe one of them is good (I mean among
the people, not among their close political circle). When Macron was
elected the first time, some people believed it would change. But they
have been very disappointed very fast. Now, like before Macron, every
one agree: all political leaders are crap. They don't vote for the best
one because there is no such thing as the best one. They vote for the
least worst one. Which is not easy to spot and very different.
So, in France we can live together in peace. Nobody hates his/her
neighbor because he/she doesn't share the same political opinions.
Unlike in America where you need guns to kill your neighbor because
he/she is not the same wing as yours. Believing it can protect you. You
can argue as long as you want to say that guns are important to be able
to protect yourself, it's a delusion. The fact is that in US, the guns
have only been used to kill, not to protect. Killing because you feel uncomfortable doesn't mean your life was endangered. I'm not that sure
that the civil war really ended one hundred and fifty years ago.
In France, the issues are not against the neighbour nobody wants to kill
but against the state. Which is a very different thing. Our political
leaders are like you: they believe violence is the only answer to the
issues. You believe it's strength when it's only lack of brain.
On the political wings, in France some are more on the right, others are
more on the left, and something in between must be found (we have no more real right wing and left wing in our political leaders, but the ideas
are still there among the people). It's a good thing. Because the other having a different opinions doesn't make him/her an enemy. It's a
different point of view. When in the US, as you consider the other wing
as the enemy and you have no better answer than your guns, I really don't
see how a bright future can happen in the US.
Second exception.
Le 15-10-2023, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> a écrit :
It can be argued that it _became_ the Jews' land when they
successfully managed to defend it, but they should never have been there
in the first place.
What do you mean by "in the first place"? Three thousand years ago?
Really, I don't care about your answer. The issue is very, very old.
Relying in the past to claim actual legitimacy is just useless (the percentage of Jews changed during the years). The only thing which can
be done is to see what is now and to try to know what can be done for a bright future. It wont be easy but war is not a valid answer.
Remember, the empty lands are very limited. When you see that Israel's
land is fucking garbage, not really better than desert, if you want to
put the Jews in a desert you'll have the same issues with different
people.
Le 17-10-2023, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> a écrit :
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
But I won't vote
for Trump, or anyone who supports him.
Cool.
Why? I don't like what I see here on politics. So I don't read a lot of political arguments. But with the numbers, I have to read some of them.
And I don't have an habit to speak about it. I'll make an exception.
It's really a different thing between France and USA from what I read
here and in some other places.
In the US, that's why I say all political speech is crap here: you have
two enemy camps. You can't live together. You can't speak together. You
can only insult yourselves. Half of the country believe Trump is good
when the other half believe Biden is good. Half of the country has
really good arguments to hate Trump. Half of the country has really good arguments to hate Biden. It's not difficult they are both garbage.
The only good thing which can be said about Trump is: he's the only US president who didn't invade countries killing people for their own good.
In France, it's very different. All political leaders are crap (like in
the US), but at least, nobody believe one of them is good (I mean among
the people, not among their close political circle). When Macron was
elected the first time, some people believed it would change. But they
have been very disappointed very fast. Now, like before Macron, every
one agree: all political leaders are crap. They don't vote for the best
one because there is no such thing as the best one. They vote for the
least worst one. Which is not easy to spot and very different.
So, in France we can live together in peace. Nobody hates his/her
neighbour because he/she doesn't share the same political opinions.
Unlike in America where you need guns to kill your neighbour because
he/she is not the same wing as yours. Believing it can protect you. You
can argue as long as you want to say that guns are important to be able
to protect yourself, it's a delusion. The fact is that in US, the guns
have only been used to kill, not to protect. Killing because you feel uncomfortable doesn't mean your life was endangered. I'm not that sure
that the civil war really ended one hundred and fifty years ago.
In France, the issues are not against the neighbour nobody wants to kill
but against the state. Which is a very different thing. Our political
leaders are like you: they believe violence is the only answer to the
issues. You believe it's strength when it's only lack of brain.
On the political wings, in France some are more on the right, others are
more on the left, and something in between must be found (we have no more real right wing and left wing in our political leaders, but the ideas
are still there among the people). It's a good thing. Because the other having a different opinions doesn't make him/her an enemy. It's a
different point of view. When in the US, as you consider the other wing
as the enemy and you have no better answer than your guns, I really don't
see how a bright future can happen in the US.
Remember, the empty lands are very limited. When you see that Israel's
land is fucking garbage, not really better than desert, if you want to
put the Jews in a desert you'll have the same issues with different
people.
Why not just go to Greenland? If they wanted to prove that they were
willing to take the shittiest land, that was the place to go. Why not Antarctica? I can guarantee that the penguins wouldn't have fought them
for the land.
In France, the issues are not against the neighbour nobody wants to kill
but against the state. Which is a very different thing. Our political
leaders are like you: they believe violence is the only answer to the
issues. You believe it's strength when it's only lack of brain.
At least Macron finally noticed that there is a serious problem with Islamists in the country. Whether he _actually_ gets rid of them is
another story. I have no real problem with Muslims anymore; having
worked with them, I find a good chunk of them to be good people with
whom I find a lot of common ground. However, that's not the entirety of
what France has.
On Sun, 29 Oct 2023 12:33:33 -0400, RabidPedagog wrote:
At least Macron finally noticed that there is a serious problem with
Islamists in the country. Whether he _actually_ gets rid of them is
another story. I have no real problem with Muslims anymore; having
worked with them, I find a good chunk of them to be good people with
whom I find a lot of common ground. However, that's not the entirety of
what France has.
Hilaire Belloc called it in 'The Great Heresies'.
https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/great-heresies-3103
When he wrote it in 1938 the Moslem nations were seen as backwaters that
were no threat to the Western world despite the evidence of history. Now
we have Erdogan talking about reigniting the crusader-crescent conflict.
The Turkish armed forces are the second largest in NATO with the US the
first and has about 1,000,000 active members. There are also nuclear
devices at Incirlik. Hopefully Biden is treating that more carefully than Bagram.
On Sun, 29 Oct 2023 12:35:18 -0400, RabidPedagog wrote:
Why not just go to Greenland? If they wanted to prove that they were
willing to take the shittiest land, that was the place to go. Why not
Antarctica? I can guarantee that the penguins wouldn't have fought them
for the land.
Their tribal god said it had to be a specific chunk of worthless land.
It's unfortunate that Marcion was shouted down by Tertullian and others.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcionism
On Sun, 29 Oct 2023 12:33:33 -0400, RabidPedagog wrote:
At least Macron finally noticed that there is a serious problem with
Islamists in the country. Whether he _actually_ gets rid of them is
another story. I have no real problem with Muslims anymore; having
worked with them, I find a good chunk of them to be good people with
whom I find a lot of common ground. However, that's not the entirety of
what France has.
Hilaire Belloc called it in 'The Great Heresies'.
https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/great-heresies-3103
When he wrote it in 1938 the Moslem nations were seen as backwaters that
were no threat to the Western world despite the evidence of history. Now
we have Erdogan talking about reigniting the crusader-crescent conflict.
The Turkish armed forces are the second largest in NATO with the US the
first and has about 1,000,000 active members. There are also nuclear
devices at Incirlik. Hopefully Biden is treating that more carefully than Bagram.
On 2023-10-29 3:07 p.m., rbowman wrote:
On Sun, 29 Oct 2023 12:35:18 -0400, RabidPedagog wrote:
Why not just go to Greenland? If they wanted to prove that they were
willing to take the shittiest land, that was the place to go. Why not
Antarctica? I can guarantee that the penguins wouldn't have fought them
for the land.
Their tribal god said it had to be a specific chunk of worthless land.
It's unfortunate that Marcion was shouted down by Tertullian and others.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcionism
Jews are a testament to the fact that even beggars can be choosers.
In France, it's very different. All political leaders are crap
Zero faith in Biden. Basically goes for everyone in Washington, D.C., including the candidates for the Republican nomination. I don't think
any of them understand how close we're walking along the edge.
I get the impression that America's army is the most powerful as
calculated in the same way that Civilization 5 calculates the military strength of neighbouring nations. They have five times the units
everybody else does, but nobody has revealed that they're warriors and spearmen.
On Sun, 29 Oct 2023 20:26:41 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
Zero faith in Biden. Basically goes for everyone in Washington, D.C.,
including the candidates for the Republican nomination. I don't think
any of them understand how close we're walking along the edge.
I was skeptical of Ramaswamy since he is sort of a pharma bro. Then he
sealed the deal.
https://www.israelherald.com/news/274014461/us-republican-prez-hopeful- vivek-ramaswamy-asks-israel-to-use-full-might-to-crush-hamas
"Now is the moment for Israel to return to its founding premise: the
Jewish State has an absolute right to exist. A Divine gift, gifted to a Divine nation, charged with a Divine purpose. Israel has an absolute and unequivocal right and responsibility to defend itself to the fullest, applying the only language its adversaries understand: the language of force," he said.
I'm not too big on divine gifts, divine nations, and divine purposes.
afaik Britain did the gifting and the nation was born in terrorism.
Someone picked up on the irony of talks held in the King David hotel that Irgun tried to blow up in 1946.
I doubt this will end well for anyone.
On 2023-10-29 3:07 p.m., rbowman wrote:
On Sun, 29 Oct 2023 12:35:18 -0400, RabidPedagog wrote:
Why not just go to Greenland? If they wanted to prove that they were
willing to take the shittiest land, that was the place to go. Why not
Antarctica? I can guarantee that the penguins wouldn't have fought
them for the land.
Their tribal god said it had to be a specific chunk of worthless land.
It's unfortunate that Marcion was shouted down by Tertullian and
others.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcionism
Jews are a testament to the fact that even beggars can be choosers.
I don't think they realize how close they're walking along the edge
either.
If this keeps going the way it's going we may all be singing this song
pretty soon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frAEmhqdLFs
On Sun, 29 Oct 2023 21:04:52 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
I don't think they realize how close they're walking along the edge
either.
If this keeps going the way it's going we may all be singing this song
pretty soon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frAEmhqdLFs
I never cared for Lehrer so I'll sing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYtVc56o9oo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxzENmD0UIE
Take that one however you will,
A couple Bob Dylan songs I never heard before. And they fit.
I
The Republican candidates are all trying to "out-Israel" each other. Meanwhile we're seeing thousands of kids getting murdered in genocidal attacks on Gaza and the Israeli moron politicians saying that the "Palestinian kids brought this on themselves." It's not playing well in
the world.
On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 01:40:08 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
The Republican candidates are all trying to "out-Israel" each other.
Meanwhile we're seeing thousands of kids getting murdered in genocidal
attacks on Gaza and the Israeli moron politicians saying that the
"Palestinian kids brought this on themselves." It's not playing well in
the world.
Biden's actions aren't playing well either. Jayapal, who is a Hindu, has warned him he might lose the Muslim vote and other voices have been heard from.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/23/biden-israel-muslim-voters- michigan-2024-00122910
Muslims are trailing Jews at 1.1% to 2% although they are projected to outnumber Jews by 2040. Demographics are destiny. If the Democrats lose
the Muslims plus the Gen-Whatever voters who are against Israel,as well as the Jews who don't buy into the Zionist thing they have a problem.
The blacks and Hispanics aren't big fans of Jews either. You pays your
money, you makes your choice. There certainly are some strange bedfellows these days.
If Israel were to lay down its arms,
rabid Gazans ( kids and all ) would murder Israelis in their cribs;
if Gaza were to lay down its arms, peace would reign.
If Israel were to lay down its arms,
rabid Gazans ( kids and all ) would murder Israelis in their cribs;
if Gaza were to lay down its arms, peace would reign.
"Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
If Israel were to lay down its arms,
rabid Gazans ( kids and all ) would murder Israelis in their cribs;
if Gaza were to lay down its arms, peace would reign.
You want obedience to the occupation. Your opinion is useless.
On 2023-10-30 6:58 a.m., Relf wrote:
If Israel were to lay down its arms,
rabid Gazans ( kids and all ) would murder Israelis in their cribs;
if Gaza were to lay down its arms, peace would reign.
If that entire part of the globe were to be destroyed, as well as any
person with ties to it, the rest of the world would probably be able to co-exist since the people who start all wars would have been removed
from existence.
I find it appalling that rather than stick to their principles,
politicians are choosing to cater to the majority and their ridiculous
ideas all the time.
On 2023-10-30 12:11 p.m., Joel wrote:
"Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
If Israel were to lay down its arms,
rabid Gazans ( kids and all ) would murder Israelis in their cribs;
if Gaza were to lay down its arms, peace would reign.
You want obedience to the occupation. Your opinion is useless.
The only right position to have is complete indifference. Let the Palestinians and the Israelis kill each other.
On 2023-10-30, RabidPedagog <ra...@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 12:11 p.m., Joel wrote:
"Relf" <Use...@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
If Israel were to lay down its arms,
rabid Gazans ( kids and all ) would murder Israelis in their cribs;
if Gaza were to lay down its arms, peace would reign.
You want obedience to the occupation. Your opinion is useless.
The only right position to have is complete indifference. Let the Palestinians and the Israelis kill each other.
I can't do that. Weapons from my country are being used to attempt genocide in Palestine. Thousands of kids are being murdered and that is impossible to ignore. The same thing happens wherever the United States gets involved in wars (like the shelling of Eastern Ukraine for eight years) because our government is being run by the same vicious bastards who run Israel.
On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 10:22:54 -0400, RabidPedagog wrote:
I find it appalling that rather than stick to their principles,
politicians are choosing to cater to the majority and their ridiculous
ideas all the time.
Prime Directive for politicians: get re-elected. Then you can do whatever
you please until close to the next election cycle. Your electorate has a
15 minute attention span won't remember how many times you shafted them.
Unfortunately for them the 2024 cycle is approaching rapidly and they may need to defeat primary challengers on the basis of what they say today. 'I LOVE Israel' used to be a safe choice. 'I LOVE Zelensky' may be losing its cachet along with 'I LOVE vibrant diversity.' My heart bleeds for the bastards as they try to navigate the minefields.
On 2023-10-30, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 6:58 a.m., Relf wrote:
If Israel were to lay down its arms,
rabid Gazans ( kids and all ) would murder Israelis in their cribs;
if Gaza were to lay down its arms, peace would reign.
You're mistaken. Israeli Zionists want "greater Israel" – in other words they want ALL of Palestine. They've proved this by constantly stealing Palestinian land and building new settlements on that stolen land. They've been doing it for years and the process has only accelerated in the last
few years. Trump's string pullers basically gave them the go-ahead.
If that entire part of the globe were to be destroyed, as well as any
person with ties to it, the rest of the world would probably be able to
co-exist since the people who start all wars would have been removed
from existence.
The people who start the wars in Israel don't all live in Israel. They live in London, New York — everywhere. The same puppet masters who engineered the
Zionist infestation of Palestine are also pulling the strings in the "Western" world.
Not all Israelis are Zionists. Not all of them want to treat the
Palestinians like "goyim" (cattle).
On 2023-10-30 4:19 p.m., rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 10:22:54 -0400, RabidPedagog wrote:
I find it appalling that rather than stick to their principles,
politicians are choosing to cater to the majority and their ridiculous
ideas all the time.
Prime Directive for politicians: get re-elected. Then you can do whatever
you please until close to the next election cycle. Your electorate has a
15 minute attention span won't remember how many times you shafted them.
Unfortunately for them the 2024 cycle is approaching rapidly and they may
need to defeat primary challengers on the basis of what they say today. 'I >> LOVE Israel' used to be a safe choice. 'I LOVE Zelensky' may be losing its >> cachet along with 'I LOVE vibrant diversity.' My heart bleeds for the
bastards as they try to navigate the minefields.
If they love Israel, they might as well move forward with legislation to
get rid of the Palestinian sympathizers like the ones who just took over
the offices of two Liberals and the leader of the NDP here in Canada. If Muslims were looking to get the support of the common folks, I think
they might have just permanently lost it.
On 2023-10-30 4:50 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2023-10-30, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 6:58 a.m., Relf wrote:
If Israel were to lay down its arms,
rabid Gazans ( kids and all ) would murder Israelis in their cribs;
if Gaza were to lay down its arms, peace would reign.
You're mistaken. Israeli Zionists want "greater Israel" – in other words >> they want ALL of Palestine. They've proved this by constantly stealing
Palestinian land and building new settlements on that stolen land. They've >> been doing it for years and the process has only accelerated in the last
few years. Trump's string pullers basically gave them the go-ahead.
I get the feeling that they want the land of their other neighbours too.
If that entire part of the globe were to be destroyed, as well as any
person with ties to it, the rest of the world would probably be able to
co-exist since the people who start all wars would have been removed
from existence.
The people who start the wars in Israel don't all live in Israel. They live >> in London, New York — everywhere. The same puppet masters who engineered the
Zionist infestation of Palestine are also pulling the strings in the
"Western" world.
Not all Israelis are Zionists. Not all of them want to treat the
Palestinians like "goyim" (cattle).
Considering how uncooperative Hamas and the Palestinians in general have been, I don't believe that I would want to treat them any differently
than the state of Israel does. However, I'll concede that I don't know
enough about the daily lives of either the Palestinians or the Israelis,
so I'm content to sit this one out. Let them go at it as long as they
keep Canadian, American and Polish souls and money out of it.
Prime Directive for politicians: get re-elected.
On 2023-10-30, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 4:50 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2023-10-30, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 6:58 a.m., Relf wrote:
If Israel were to lay down its arms,
rabid Gazans ( kids and all ) would murder Israelis in their cribs;
if Gaza were to lay down its arms, peace would reign.
You're mistaken. Israeli Zionists want "greater Israel" – in other words >>> they want ALL of Palestine. They've proved this by constantly stealing
Palestinian land and building new settlements on that stolen land. They've >>> been doing it for years and the process has only accelerated in the last >>> few years. Trump's string pullers basically gave them the go-ahead.
I get the feeling that they want the land of their other neighbours too.
If that entire part of the globe were to be destroyed, as well as any
person with ties to it, the rest of the world would probably be able to >>>> co-exist since the people who start all wars would have been removed
from existence.
The people who start the wars in Israel don't all live in Israel. They live >>> in London, New York — everywhere. The same puppet masters who engineered the
Zionist infestation of Palestine are also pulling the strings in the
"Western" world.
Not all Israelis are Zionists. Not all of them want to treat the
Palestinians like "goyim" (cattle).
Considering how uncooperative Hamas and the Palestinians in general have
been, I don't believe that I would want to treat them any differently
than the state of Israel does. However, I'll concede that I don't know
enough about the daily lives of either the Palestinians or the Israelis,
so I'm content to sit this one out. Let them go at it as long as they
keep Canadian, American and Polish souls and money out of it.
The Palestinians are the "uncooperative" ones? Not the murdering thugs in Israel? Are the Palestinians supposed to "cooperate" by voluntary
destroying their own homes and deeding the land to the greedy Zionists? Are they supposed to beat and kill themselves to save the IDF the trouble of having to do it themselves? I think you've got blinders on. Even the non-Zionist Israelis oppose the Zionist leadership and their genocidal nature.
On 2023-10-30, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 4:19 p.m., rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 10:22:54 -0400, RabidPedagog wrote:
I find it appalling that rather than stick to their principles,
politicians are choosing to cater to the majority and their ridiculous >>>> ideas all the time.
Prime Directive for politicians: get re-elected. Then you can do whatever >>> you please until close to the next election cycle. Your electorate has a >>> 15 minute attention span won't remember how many times you shafted them. >>>
Unfortunately for them the 2024 cycle is approaching rapidly and they may >>> need to defeat primary challengers on the basis of what they say today. 'I >>> LOVE Israel' used to be a safe choice. 'I LOVE Zelensky' may be losing its >>> cachet along with 'I LOVE vibrant diversity.' My heart bleeds for the
bastards as they try to navigate the minefields.
If they love Israel, they might as well move forward with legislation to
get rid of the Palestinian sympathizers like the ones who just took over
the offices of two Liberals and the leader of the NDP here in Canada. If
Muslims were looking to get the support of the common folks, I think
they might have just permanently lost it.
I think you're wrong. There are huge rallies all over the world in favor of the Palestinians. And, although "Palestinian" mostly means Muslim, there are still many Palestinian Christians also being slaughtered. So the Israeli attack is not solely on Muslims, it's on Palestinians as a whole. (Not that killing a Muslim civilian is "a-okay" anyhow as they're trapped in an open air prison.)
On 2023-10-30 8:02 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2023-10-30, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 4:50 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2023-10-30, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 6:58 a.m., Relf wrote:
If Israel were to lay down its arms,
rabid Gazans ( kids and all ) would murder Israelis in their cribs; >>>>>> if Gaza were to lay down its arms, peace would reign.
You're mistaken. Israeli Zionists want "greater Israel" – in other words >>>> they want ALL of Palestine. They've proved this by constantly stealing >>>> Palestinian land and building new settlements on that stolen land. They've >>>> been doing it for years and the process has only accelerated in the last >>>> few years. Trump's string pullers basically gave them the go-ahead.
I get the feeling that they want the land of their other neighbours too. >>>
If that entire part of the globe were to be destroyed, as well as any >>>>> person with ties to it, the rest of the world would probably be able to >>>>> co-exist since the people who start all wars would have been removed >>>>> from existence.
The people who start the wars in Israel don't all live in Israel. They live
in London, New York — everywhere. The same puppet masters who engineered the
Zionist infestation of Palestine are also pulling the strings in the
"Western" world.
Not all Israelis are Zionists. Not all of them want to treat the
Palestinians like "goyim" (cattle).
Considering how uncooperative Hamas and the Palestinians in general have >>> been, I don't believe that I would want to treat them any differently
than the state of Israel does. However, I'll concede that I don't know
enough about the daily lives of either the Palestinians or the Israelis, >>> so I'm content to sit this one out. Let them go at it as long as they
keep Canadian, American and Polish souls and money out of it.
The Palestinians are the "uncooperative" ones? Not the murdering thugs in
Israel? Are the Palestinians supposed to "cooperate" by voluntary
destroying their own homes and deeding the land to the greedy Zionists? Are >> they supposed to beat and kill themselves to save the IDF the trouble of
having to do it themselves? I think you've got blinders on. Even the
non-Zionist Israelis oppose the Zionist leadership and their genocidal
nature.
They gave Arafat everything he wanted in the early 2000s, and he said
no. They have no interest in peace; they simply want to prolong the
struggle for as long it takes for the Jew to completely die. I don't
have a care in the world about the Palestinians.
On 2023-10-30 7:56 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2023-10-30, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 4:19 p.m., rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 10:22:54 -0400, RabidPedagog wrote:
I find it appalling that rather than stick to their principles,
politicians are choosing to cater to the majority and their ridiculous >>>>> ideas all the time.
Prime Directive for politicians: get re-elected. Then you can do whatever >>>> you please until close to the next election cycle. Your electorate has a >>>> 15 minute attention span won't remember how many times you shafted them. >>>>
Unfortunately for them the 2024 cycle is approaching rapidly and they may >>>> need to defeat primary challengers on the basis of what they say today. 'I >>>> LOVE Israel' used to be a safe choice. 'I LOVE Zelensky' may be losing its >>>> cachet along with 'I LOVE vibrant diversity.' My heart bleeds for the
bastards as they try to navigate the minefields.
If they love Israel, they might as well move forward with legislation to >>> get rid of the Palestinian sympathizers like the ones who just took over >>> the offices of two Liberals and the leader of the NDP here in Canada. If >>> Muslims were looking to get the support of the common folks, I think
they might have just permanently lost it.
I think you're wrong. There are huge rallies all over the world in favor of >> the Palestinians. And, although "Palestinian" mostly means Muslim, there are >> still many Palestinian Christians also being slaughtered. So the Israeli
attack is not solely on Muslims, it's on Palestinians as a whole. (Not that >> killing a Muslim civilian is "a-okay" anyhow as they're trapped in an open >> air prison.)
Since the majority of my students are Algerian Muslims, they obviously
asked me which side I was on. My response, so far, has been to tell the
kids that if they ask me such things, I'll keep them after class because
my political affiliations should not be a concern of theirs. However,
with one student, I told him the truth: neither side cares about
Christians like me, so I am returning the favour. Not one Canadian,
Polish, American soul should be sent to die there, and not one dollar
either. Fuck 'em both.
On 2023-10-31, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 7:56 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2023-10-30, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 4:19 p.m., rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 10:22:54 -0400, RabidPedagog wrote:
I find it appalling that rather than stick to their principles,
politicians are choosing to cater to the majority and their ridiculous >>>>>> ideas all the time.
Prime Directive for politicians: get re-elected. Then you can do whatever >>>>> you please until close to the next election cycle. Your electorate has a >>>>> 15 minute attention span won't remember how many times you shafted them. >>>>>
Unfortunately for them the 2024 cycle is approaching rapidly and they may >>>>> need to defeat primary challengers on the basis of what they say today. 'I
LOVE Israel' used to be a safe choice. 'I LOVE Zelensky' may be losing its
cachet along with 'I LOVE vibrant diversity.' My heart bleeds for the >>>>> bastards as they try to navigate the minefields.
If they love Israel, they might as well move forward with legislation to >>>> get rid of the Palestinian sympathizers like the ones who just took over >>>> the offices of two Liberals and the leader of the NDP here in Canada. If >>>> Muslims were looking to get the support of the common folks, I think
they might have just permanently lost it.
I think you're wrong. There are huge rallies all over the world in favor of >>> the Palestinians. And, although "Palestinian" mostly means Muslim, there are
still many Palestinian Christians also being slaughtered. So the Israeli >>> attack is not solely on Muslims, it's on Palestinians as a whole. (Not that >>> killing a Muslim civilian is "a-okay" anyhow as they're trapped in an open >>> air prison.)
Since the majority of my students are Algerian Muslims, they obviously
asked me which side I was on. My response, so far, has been to tell the
kids that if they ask me such things, I'll keep them after class because
my political affiliations should not be a concern of theirs. However,
with one student, I told him the truth: neither side cares about
Christians like me, so I am returning the favour. Not one Canadian,
Polish, American soul should be sent to die there, and not one dollar
either. Fuck 'em both.
If it wasn't for the Western world's support, the Zionists wouldn't have
been in Palestine in the first place and this problem wouldn't exist.
On 2023-10-31, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 8:02 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2023-10-30, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 4:50 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2023-10-30, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 6:58 a.m., Relf wrote:
If Israel were to lay down its arms,
rabid Gazans ( kids and all ) would murder Israelis in their cribs; >>>>>>> if Gaza were to lay down its arms, peace would reign.
You're mistaken. Israeli Zionists want "greater Israel" – in other words
they want ALL of Palestine. They've proved this by constantly stealing >>>>> Palestinian land and building new settlements on that stolen land. They've
been doing it for years and the process has only accelerated in the last >>>>> few years. Trump's string pullers basically gave them the go-ahead.
I get the feeling that they want the land of their other neighbours too. >>>>
If that entire part of the globe were to be destroyed, as well as any >>>>>> person with ties to it, the rest of the world would probably be able to >>>>>> co-exist since the people who start all wars would have been removed >>>>>> from existence.
The people who start the wars in Israel don't all live in Israel. They live
in London, New York — everywhere. The same puppet masters who engineered the
Zionist infestation of Palestine are also pulling the strings in the >>>>> "Western" world.
Not all Israelis are Zionists. Not all of them want to treat the
Palestinians like "goyim" (cattle).
Considering how uncooperative Hamas and the Palestinians in general have >>>> been, I don't believe that I would want to treat them any differently
than the state of Israel does. However, I'll concede that I don't know >>>> enough about the daily lives of either the Palestinians or the Israelis, >>>> so I'm content to sit this one out. Let them go at it as long as they
keep Canadian, American and Polish souls and money out of it.
The Palestinians are the "uncooperative" ones? Not the murdering thugs in >>> Israel? Are the Palestinians supposed to "cooperate" by voluntary
destroying their own homes and deeding the land to the greedy Zionists? Are >>> they supposed to beat and kill themselves to save the IDF the trouble of >>> having to do it themselves? I think you've got blinders on. Even the
non-Zionist Israelis oppose the Zionist leadership and their genocidal
nature.
They gave Arafat everything he wanted in the early 2000s, and he said
no. They have no interest in peace; they simply want to prolong the
struggle for as long it takes for the Jew to completely die. I don't
have a care in the world about the Palestinians.
They _promised_ Arafat a lot. They didn't deliver any of it. They continued stealing Palestinian land and putting Palestinians in refugee camps. Always.
On 2023-10-31 3:40 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2023-10-31, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 7:56 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2023-10-30, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 4:19 p.m., rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 10:22:54 -0400, RabidPedagog wrote:
I find it appalling that rather than stick to their principles,
politicians are choosing to cater to the majority and their ridiculous >>>>>>> ideas all the time.
Prime Directive for politicians: get re-elected. Then you can do whatever
you please until close to the next election cycle. Your electorate has a >>>>>> 15 minute attention span won't remember how many times you shafted them. >>>>>>
Unfortunately for them the 2024 cycle is approaching rapidly and they may
need to defeat primary challengers on the basis of what they say today. 'I
LOVE Israel' used to be a safe choice. 'I LOVE Zelensky' may be losing its
cachet along with 'I LOVE vibrant diversity.' My heart bleeds for the >>>>>> bastards as they try to navigate the minefields.
If they love Israel, they might as well move forward with legislation to >>>>> get rid of the Palestinian sympathizers like the ones who just took over >>>>> the offices of two Liberals and the leader of the NDP here in Canada. If >>>>> Muslims were looking to get the support of the common folks, I think >>>>> they might have just permanently lost it.
I think you're wrong. There are huge rallies all over the world in favor of
the Palestinians. And, although "Palestinian" mostly means Muslim, there are
still many Palestinian Christians also being slaughtered. So the Israeli >>>> attack is not solely on Muslims, it's on Palestinians as a whole. (Not that
killing a Muslim civilian is "a-okay" anyhow as they're trapped in an open >>>> air prison.)
Since the majority of my students are Algerian Muslims, they obviously
asked me which side I was on. My response, so far, has been to tell the
kids that if they ask me such things, I'll keep them after class because >>> my political affiliations should not be a concern of theirs. However,
with one student, I told him the truth: neither side cares about
Christians like me, so I am returning the favour. Not one Canadian,
Polish, American soul should be sent to die there, and not one dollar
either. Fuck 'em both.
If it wasn't for the Western world's support, the Zionists wouldn't have
been in Palestine in the first place and this problem wouldn't exist.
Agreed. Paul Joseph Watson also just revealed that the Israeli Ministry
of Intelligence leaked a document in which they make it clear that they
want to get rid of Gaza, and send the Palestinians to Europe, the US and Canada. Basically, they see us as a dumpster which will always oblige
and take its trash.
I don't want a single Palestinian here. We already have way too many terrorist sympathizers here, and I include the students I saw today who clearly dressed as terrorists and nobody dared to see a problem with.
These people need to be in the Middle East and out of any civilized area.
On 2023-10-31 3:42 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2023-10-31, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 8:02 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2023-10-30, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 4:50 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2023-10-30, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:I get the feeling that they want the land of their other neighbours too. >>>>>
On 2023-10-30 6:58 a.m., Relf wrote:
If Israel were to lay down its arms,
rabid Gazans ( kids and all ) would murder Israelis in their cribs; >>>>>>>> if Gaza were to lay down its arms, peace would reign.
You're mistaken. Israeli Zionists want "greater Israel" – in other words
they want ALL of Palestine. They've proved this by constantly stealing >>>>>> Palestinian land and building new settlements on that stolen land. They've
been doing it for years and the process has only accelerated in the last >>>>>> few years. Trump's string pullers basically gave them the go-ahead. >>>>>
If that entire part of the globe were to be destroyed, as well as any >>>>>>> person with ties to it, the rest of the world would probably be able to >>>>>>> co-exist since the people who start all wars would have been removed >>>>>>> from existence.
The people who start the wars in Israel don't all live in Israel. They live
in London, New York — everywhere. The same puppet masters who engineered the
Zionist infestation of Palestine are also pulling the strings in the >>>>>> "Western" world.
Not all Israelis are Zionists. Not all of them want to treat the
Palestinians like "goyim" (cattle).
Considering how uncooperative Hamas and the Palestinians in general have >>>>> been, I don't believe that I would want to treat them any differently >>>>> than the state of Israel does. However, I'll concede that I don't know >>>>> enough about the daily lives of either the Palestinians or the Israelis, >>>>> so I'm content to sit this one out. Let them go at it as long as they >>>>> keep Canadian, American and Polish souls and money out of it.
The Palestinians are the "uncooperative" ones? Not the murdering thugs in >>>> Israel? Are the Palestinians supposed to "cooperate" by voluntary
destroying their own homes and deeding the land to the greedy Zionists? Are
they supposed to beat and kill themselves to save the IDF the trouble of >>>> having to do it themselves? I think you've got blinders on. Even the
non-Zionist Israelis oppose the Zionist leadership and their genocidal >>>> nature.
They gave Arafat everything he wanted in the early 2000s, and he said
no. They have no interest in peace; they simply want to prolong the
struggle for as long it takes for the Jew to completely die. I don't
have a care in the world about the Palestinians.
They _promised_ Arafat a lot. They didn't deliver any of it. They continued >> stealing Palestinian land and putting Palestinians in refugee camps. Always.
They promised it, and didn't even get a chance to deliver because he
refused everything. If a person says no, you don't give them something anyway.
Like I said, I work with similar rats on a daily basis. Practically everything these people say is a lie or manipulation, and they don't
mind saying "Insh'Allah" (if God wills it) to make you believe that
they're sincere in wanting to do something good. Like I said in a
previous post, the kids proudly wore terrorist attire today and banked
on the fact that the teachers would be too stupid to notice. Heck, I
spent a part of the last period asking my students point blank where
their loyalties lay as a result of being born and raised in Canada: they _all_ said Algeria, Morocco or Egypt. The fact that they made no effort, during their entire lives, to integrate into the local culture is not a coincidence: they don't care about anything the West has to offer,
including peace.
On 2023-10-31, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-31 3:40 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2023-10-31, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 7:56 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2023-10-30, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 4:19 p.m., rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 10:22:54 -0400, RabidPedagog wrote:
I find it appalling that rather than stick to their principles, >>>>>>>> politicians are choosing to cater to the majority and their ridiculous >>>>>>>> ideas all the time.
Prime Directive for politicians: get re-elected. Then you can do whatever
you please until close to the next election cycle. Your electorate has a
15 minute attention span won't remember how many times you shafted them.
Unfortunately for them the 2024 cycle is approaching rapidly and they may
need to defeat primary challengers on the basis of what they say today. 'I
LOVE Israel' used to be a safe choice. 'I LOVE Zelensky' may be losing its
cachet along with 'I LOVE vibrant diversity.' My heart bleeds for the >>>>>>> bastards as they try to navigate the minefields.
If they love Israel, they might as well move forward with legislation to >>>>>> get rid of the Palestinian sympathizers like the ones who just took over >>>>>> the offices of two Liberals and the leader of the NDP here in Canada. If >>>>>> Muslims were looking to get the support of the common folks, I think >>>>>> they might have just permanently lost it.
I think you're wrong. There are huge rallies all over the world in favor of
the Palestinians. And, although "Palestinian" mostly means Muslim, there are
still many Palestinian Christians also being slaughtered. So the Israeli >>>>> attack is not solely on Muslims, it's on Palestinians as a whole. (Not that
killing a Muslim civilian is "a-okay" anyhow as they're trapped in an open
air prison.)
Since the majority of my students are Algerian Muslims, they obviously >>>> asked me which side I was on. My response, so far, has been to tell the >>>> kids that if they ask me such things, I'll keep them after class because >>>> my political affiliations should not be a concern of theirs. However,
with one student, I told him the truth: neither side cares about
Christians like me, so I am returning the favour. Not one Canadian,
Polish, American soul should be sent to die there, and not one dollar
either. Fuck 'em both.
If it wasn't for the Western world's support, the Zionists wouldn't have >>> been in Palestine in the first place and this problem wouldn't exist.
Agreed. Paul Joseph Watson also just revealed that the Israeli Ministry
of Intelligence leaked a document in which they make it clear that they
want to get rid of Gaza, and send the Palestinians to Europe, the US and
Canada. Basically, they see us as a dumpster which will always oblige
and take its trash.
I don't want a single Palestinian here. We already have way too many
terrorist sympathizers here, and I include the students I saw today who
clearly dressed as terrorists and nobody dared to see a problem with.
These people need to be in the Middle East and out of any civilized area.
By "terrorists" do you mean they were carrying Palestinian flags?... or Israeli ones?
I've seen that the Israeli Zionists want to dump their problem on us. I
don't think that's going to happen as the Palestinians want the state promised to them, they don't want to be refugees in other countries.
On 2023-11-01, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-31 3:42 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2023-10-31, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 8:02 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2023-10-30, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 4:50 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2023-10-30, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:I get the feeling that they want the land of their other neighbours too. >>>>>>
On 2023-10-30 6:58 a.m., Relf wrote:
If Israel were to lay down its arms,
rabid Gazans ( kids and all ) would murder Israelis in their cribs; >>>>>>>>> if Gaza were to lay down its arms, peace would reign.
You're mistaken. Israeli Zionists want "greater Israel" – in other words
they want ALL of Palestine. They've proved this by constantly stealing >>>>>>> Palestinian land and building new settlements on that stolen land. They've
been doing it for years and the process has only accelerated in the last
few years. Trump's string pullers basically gave them the go-ahead. >>>>>>
If that entire part of the globe were to be destroyed, as well as any >>>>>>>> person with ties to it, the rest of the world would probably be able to
co-exist since the people who start all wars would have been removed >>>>>>>> from existence.
The people who start the wars in Israel don't all live in Israel. They live
in London, New York — everywhere. The same puppet masters who engineered the
Zionist infestation of Palestine are also pulling the strings in the >>>>>>> "Western" world.
Not all Israelis are Zionists. Not all of them want to treat the >>>>>>> Palestinians like "goyim" (cattle).
Considering how uncooperative Hamas and the Palestinians in general have >>>>>> been, I don't believe that I would want to treat them any differently >>>>>> than the state of Israel does. However, I'll concede that I don't know >>>>>> enough about the daily lives of either the Palestinians or the Israelis, >>>>>> so I'm content to sit this one out. Let them go at it as long as they >>>>>> keep Canadian, American and Polish souls and money out of it.
The Palestinians are the "uncooperative" ones? Not the murdering thugs in >>>>> Israel? Are the Palestinians supposed to "cooperate" by voluntary
destroying their own homes and deeding the land to the greedy Zionists? Are
they supposed to beat and kill themselves to save the IDF the trouble of >>>>> having to do it themselves? I think you've got blinders on. Even the >>>>> non-Zionist Israelis oppose the Zionist leadership and their genocidal >>>>> nature.
They gave Arafat everything he wanted in the early 2000s, and he said
no. They have no interest in peace; they simply want to prolong the
struggle for as long it takes for the Jew to completely die. I don't
have a care in the world about the Palestinians.
They _promised_ Arafat a lot. They didn't deliver any of it. They continued >>> stealing Palestinian land and putting Palestinians in refugee camps. Always.
They promised it, and didn't even get a chance to deliver because he
refused everything. If a person says no, you don't give them something
anyway.
Like I said, I work with similar rats on a daily basis. Practically
everything these people say is a lie or manipulation, and they don't
mind saying "Insh'Allah" (if God wills it) to make you believe that
they're sincere in wanting to do something good. Like I said in a
previous post, the kids proudly wore terrorist attire today and banked
on the fact that the teachers would be too stupid to notice. Heck, I
spent a part of the last period asking my students point blank where
their loyalties lay as a result of being born and raised in Canada: they
_all_ said Algeria, Morocco or Egypt. The fact that they made no effort,
during their entire lives, to integrate into the local culture is not a
coincidence: they don't care about anything the West has to offer,
including peace.
Gee, it was nice of Israel and the United States to offer Palestinians their OWN land, provided they abided by the "rules" forced on them. Wonder why
they didn't grab at it with both hands. And Arafat couldn't speak for all Palestinians.
I'm not arguing with you about the mixed loyalty of those born in Canada. We have the same in the United States. Still, if Russia was genociding Poland like Israel is genociding Gaza I'm guessing you wouldn't be able to pass it off with a shrug either.
On 2023-10-31 8:30 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2023-11-01, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-31 3:42 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2023-10-31, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 8:02 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2023-10-30, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 4:50 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2023-10-30, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:I get the feeling that they want the land of their other neighbours too.
On 2023-10-30 6:58 a.m., Relf wrote:
If Israel were to lay down its arms,
rabid Gazans ( kids and all ) would murder Israelis in their cribs; >>>>>>>>>> if Gaza were to lay down its arms, peace would reign.
You're mistaken. Israeli Zionists want "greater Israel" – in other words
they want ALL of Palestine. They've proved this by constantly stealing >>>>>>>> Palestinian land and building new settlements on that stolen land. They've
been doing it for years and the process has only accelerated in the last
few years. Trump's string pullers basically gave them the go-ahead. >>>>>>>
If that entire part of the globe were to be destroyed, as well as any >>>>>>>>> person with ties to it, the rest of the world would probably be able to
co-exist since the people who start all wars would have been removed >>>>>>>>> from existence.
The people who start the wars in Israel don't all live in Israel. They live
in London, New York — everywhere. The same puppet masters who engineered the
Zionist infestation of Palestine are also pulling the strings in the >>>>>>>> "Western" world.
Not all Israelis are Zionists. Not all of them want to treat the >>>>>>>> Palestinians like "goyim" (cattle).
Considering how uncooperative Hamas and the Palestinians in general have
been, I don't believe that I would want to treat them any differently >>>>>>> than the state of Israel does. However, I'll concede that I don't know >>>>>>> enough about the daily lives of either the Palestinians or the Israelis,
so I'm content to sit this one out. Let them go at it as long as they >>>>>>> keep Canadian, American and Polish souls and money out of it.
The Palestinians are the "uncooperative" ones? Not the murdering thugs in
Israel? Are the Palestinians supposed to "cooperate" by voluntary
destroying their own homes and deeding the land to the greedy Zionists? Are
they supposed to beat and kill themselves to save the IDF the trouble of >>>>>> having to do it themselves? I think you've got blinders on. Even the >>>>>> non-Zionist Israelis oppose the Zionist leadership and their genocidal >>>>>> nature.
They gave Arafat everything he wanted in the early 2000s, and he said >>>>> no. They have no interest in peace; they simply want to prolong the
struggle for as long it takes for the Jew to completely die. I don't >>>>> have a care in the world about the Palestinians.
They _promised_ Arafat a lot. They didn't deliver any of it. They continued
stealing Palestinian land and putting Palestinians in refugee camps. Always.
They promised it, and didn't even get a chance to deliver because he
refused everything. If a person says no, you don't give them something
anyway.
Like I said, I work with similar rats on a daily basis. Practically
everything these people say is a lie or manipulation, and they don't
mind saying "Insh'Allah" (if God wills it) to make you believe that
they're sincere in wanting to do something good. Like I said in a
previous post, the kids proudly wore terrorist attire today and banked
on the fact that the teachers would be too stupid to notice. Heck, I
spent a part of the last period asking my students point blank where
their loyalties lay as a result of being born and raised in Canada: they >>> _all_ said Algeria, Morocco or Egypt. The fact that they made no effort, >>> during their entire lives, to integrate into the local culture is not a
coincidence: they don't care about anything the West has to offer,
including peace.
Gee, it was nice of Israel and the United States to offer Palestinians their >> OWN land, provided they abided by the "rules" forced on them. Wonder why
they didn't grab at it with both hands. And Arafat couldn't speak for all
Palestinians.
I'm not arguing with you about the mixed loyalty of those born in Canada. We >> have the same in the United States. Still, if Russia was genociding Poland >> like Israel is genociding Gaza I'm guessing you wouldn't be able to pass it >> off with a shrug either.
Poland doesn't have a history of pissing off its neighbours the way that Palestinians do either. Germans had to manufacture such an event to
start the Second World War and while I don't doubt that Polish military
were being arrogant about their ability to handle the Germans in the
weeks and months prior, I doubt that they were actively seeking a war
with them or bullying Germans in Gdansk as propaganda often claims.
However, I'm open to reading about examples of how Poland baited Russia
in the past, in the manner that we _know_ Palestinians do with Israel.
On 2023-10-31 8:23 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2023-10-31, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-31 3:40 p.m., RonB wrote:By "terrorists" do you mean they were carrying Palestinian flags?... or
On 2023-10-31, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 7:56 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2023-10-30, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
On 2023-10-30 4:19 p.m., rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 10:22:54 -0400, RabidPedagog wrote:
I find it appalling that rather than stick to their principles, >>>>>>>>> politicians are choosing to cater to the majority and their ridiculous
ideas all the time.
Prime Directive for politicians: get re-elected. Then you can do whatever
you please until close to the next election cycle. Your electorate has a
15 minute attention span won't remember how many times you shafted them.
Unfortunately for them the 2024 cycle is approaching rapidly and they may
need to defeat primary challengers on the basis of what they say today. 'I
LOVE Israel' used to be a safe choice. 'I LOVE Zelensky' may be losing its
cachet along with 'I LOVE vibrant diversity.' My heart bleeds for the >>>>>>>> bastards as they try to navigate the minefields.
If they love Israel, they might as well move forward with legislation to
get rid of the Palestinian sympathizers like the ones who just took over
the offices of two Liberals and the leader of the NDP here in Canada. If
Muslims were looking to get the support of the common folks, I think >>>>>>> they might have just permanently lost it.
I think you're wrong. There are huge rallies all over the world in favor of
the Palestinians. And, although "Palestinian" mostly means Muslim, there are
still many Palestinian Christians also being slaughtered. So the Israeli >>>>>> attack is not solely on Muslims, it's on Palestinians as a whole. (Not that
killing a Muslim civilian is "a-okay" anyhow as they're trapped in an open
air prison.)
Since the majority of my students are Algerian Muslims, they obviously >>>>> asked me which side I was on. My response, so far, has been to tell the >>>>> kids that if they ask me such things, I'll keep them after class because >>>>> my political affiliations should not be a concern of theirs. However, >>>>> with one student, I told him the truth: neither side cares about
Christians like me, so I am returning the favour. Not one Canadian,
Polish, American soul should be sent to die there, and not one dollar >>>>> either. Fuck 'em both.
If it wasn't for the Western world's support, the Zionists wouldn't have >>>> been in Palestine in the first place and this problem wouldn't exist.
Agreed. Paul Joseph Watson also just revealed that the Israeli Ministry
of Intelligence leaked a document in which they make it clear that they
want to get rid of Gaza, and send the Palestinians to Europe, the US and >>> Canada. Basically, they see us as a dumpster which will always oblige
and take its trash.
I don't want a single Palestinian here. We already have way too many
terrorist sympathizers here, and I include the students I saw today who
clearly dressed as terrorists and nobody dared to see a problem with.
These people need to be in the Middle East and out of any civilized area. >>
Israeli ones?
This: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_keffiyeh>.
I've seen that the Israeli Zionists want to dump their problem on us. I
don't think that's going to happen as the Palestinians want the state
promised to them, they don't want to be refugees in other countries.
They won't have a choice once Israel gets done with them. However, I
don't want a single Palestinian on American or Europe soil. They bring nothing but crime and terrorism, and Muslims in general have not yet
brought anything positive through the waves of unchecked immigrants that
have come through. Sweden finally understood this and is getting rid of
them; I can only hope other European nations follow before it's too
late. Whether legal or illegal, immigration from those nations should be avoided as they make little to no effort to integrate at best and kill innocent civilians indiscriminately at worst.
Agreed. Paul Joseph Watson also just revealed that the Israeli Ministry
of Intelligence leaked a document in which they make it clear that they
want to get rid of Gaza, and send the Palestinians to Europe, the US and Canada. Basically, they see us as a dumpster which will always oblige
and take its trash.
Poland doesn't have a history of pissing off its neighbours the way that Palestinians do either. Germans had to manufacture such an event to
start the Second World War and while I don't doubt that Polish military
were being arrogant about their ability to handle the Germans in the
weeks and months prior, I doubt that they were actively seeking a war
with them or bullying Germans in Gdansk as propaganda often claims.
On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 20:47:13 -0400, RabidPedagog wrote:
Poland doesn't have a history of pissing off its neighbours the way that
Palestinians do either. Germans had to manufacture such an event to
start the Second World War and while I don't doubt that Polish military
were being arrogant about their ability to handle the Germans in the
weeks and months prior, I doubt that they were actively seeking a war
with them or bullying Germans in Gdansk as propaganda often claims.
Manufacture?After WWI the Allies reconstituted Poland as a state. It had ceased to exist as a state after the Congress of Vienna. In their infinite wisdom they also created the Danzig Corridor, separating Germany from East Prussia. The Germans wanted a land route and essentially offered to build
an autobahn across the corridor with no off-ramps. The Poles. who stupidly thought the Brits had their backs, refused. The Brits were so powerful
they had to enlist every rowboat they could find to get the BEF out of Europe. It's an ongoing mystery why Germany didn't just slaughter them on
the beach. Anyway the rest is history.
Poland would have had a much better WWII experience as an ally of Germany
but so it goes.
On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 19:55:51 -0400, RabidPedagog wrote:
Agreed. Paul Joseph Watson also just revealed that the Israeli Ministry
of Intelligence leaked a document in which they make it clear that they
want to get rid of Gaza, and send the Palestinians to Europe, the US and
Canada. Basically, they see us as a dumpster which will always oblige
and take its trash.
Funny how the Jews want their little ethnostate but are so willing to
pollute every other country in the world. Piss on them.
Yep, I go back to my original position: fuck both sides. Both of them
see us Christians as little more than cattle. If I had any kind of
political power, I would insist on not only preventing the West from
sending a single person to help either side, but even a single dollar.
Let's see how well they manage without the intervention of us farm
animals.
They didn't slaughter them on the beach because the Germans couldn't
reach them in time to do so. Some British units stuck around to defend
the position. Nazi propaganda would have you believe that Hitler allowed
them to escape because he continuously wanted to have some sort of peace
deal with the United Kingdom.
I agree, but I don't believe that Hitler would have respected any
agreement with Poland. Let's not forget that the Nazis and Soviets
started the Second World War shaking hands in Poland.
On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 07:40:28 -0400, RabidPedagog wrote:
They didn't slaughter them on the beach because the Germans couldn't
reach them in time to do so. Some British units stuck around to defend
the position. Nazi propaganda would have you believe that Hitler allowed
them to escape because he continuously wanted to have some sort of peace
deal with the United Kingdom.
I tend to believe it based on other writings from the time. Germany isn't landlocked technically but the Baltic ports can be easily bottled up and
the Atlantic ports aren't that great considering Britain sitting there waiting. I think Germany would have been happy to let Britain continue to rule the seas.
Then there were the blood ties. After all the British royalty changed
their name in 1917 but they were German. There was also pro-German
sentiment. I think Hitler read the situation wrong. France, otoh, was
going to get its ass kicked if for nothing more than putting its blacks in the Ruhr.
I agree, but I don't believe that Hitler would have respected any
agreement with Poland. Let's not forget that the Nazis and Soviets
started the Second World War shaking hands in Poland.
Both sides had their fingers crossed. Poland was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I doubt Stalin read Mein Kampf but somebody in Russia must
have and knew what was coming. Stalin was buying time as was Germany.
Poland has always been in the wrong place. Except for down in the
Carpathians it's a nice, big, flat area to have a jolly little war if you stay out of the swamps. Historically being the line between the Catholics
and the Orthodox didn't help either.
| Sysop: | Keyop |
|---|---|
| Location: | Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK |
| Users: | 300 |
| Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
| Uptime: | 08:04:35 |
| Calls: | 6,706 |
| Files: | 12,236 |
| Messages: | 5,350,641 |