It is sort of a victory for Linux, in that MS recognized a lot of good
dev tools were Linux-only.
So they made it easy to stay in Windows but also use Linux.
Uh huh, WSL 2 is an interesting feature,
but it's just a fucking VM,
Microsoft Windows NT is a powerful OS,
Admittedly though, I will be installing Linux Mint on my mom's computer
the next time I'm over. Since the 8th generation i7 my dad got her comes
with a traditional hard disk, Windows 11 runs like shit on it after a
few updates. I told her that we can fix the problem by installing an
SSD, but since they are both too lazy to just go down the street and buy
the SSD themselves (she wants me to go to the store in her place despite
my packed schedule and her living at the other end of town, on the other
side of tons of traffic congestion), I figured I'd just put Linux on
there and end the story.
There is no way for the
capitalist to avoid the "race to the bottom."
Only the "socialist" GNU/Linux/FreeBSD/FOSS can maintain
quality, freedom, and progress.
On 10/16/2023 10:42 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
On 10/16/23 09:27, DFS wrote:
On 10/15/2023 1:09 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
On 10/15/23 10:19, DFS wrote:
Do you actually do any work with your Linux/Openbox crapbox?
Yes?
That's a solid, committed answer.
Yes. What is your point?
Just curious.
From what I've seen on cola, most Linux users don't do any work with
their GuhNoo hobbyware.
Just tinkertoy playtime in the evenings and weekends.
Only the "socialist" GNU/Linux/FreeBSD/FOSS can maintain
quality, freedom, and progress.
OK, I was wrong about it. You can't avoid political garbage.
Le 18-10-2023, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> a écrit :
Admittedly though, I will be installing Linux Mint on my mom's computer
the next time I'm over. Since the 8th generation i7 my dad got her comes
with a traditional hard disk, Windows 11 runs like shit on it after a
few updates. I told her that we can fix the problem by installing an
SSD, but since they are both too lazy to just go down the street and buy
the SSD themselves (she wants me to go to the store in her place despite
my packed schedule and her living at the other end of town, on the other
side of tons of traffic congestion), I figured I'd just put Linux on
there and end the story.
In another message you were saying that people really using their
hardware were using Windows. Don't you see any incompatibility with this paragraph?
Le 17-10-2023, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> a écrit :
Uh huh, WSL 2 is an interesting feature,
Yes.
but it's just a fucking VM,
So what? It helps you avoid to install crapware like virtual box or
vmware to install Linux. What's wrong with that.
Microsoft Windows NT is a powerful OS,
No.
Uh huh, WSL 2 is an interesting feature,
Yes.
but it's just a fucking VM,
So what? It helps you avoid to install crapware like virtual box or
vmware to install Linux. What's wrong with that.
Microsoft Windows NT is a powerful OS,
No.
In evenings and week-ends you can do a lot more than just tinkertoy.
Agreed, on evenings and week-end you can't do as much as what you do on
full time payed. But still, you can use Linux for real.
Le 17-10-2023, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> a écrit :
Uh huh, WSL 2 is an interesting feature,
Yes.
but it's just a fucking VM,
So what? It helps you avoid to install crapware like virtual box or
vmware to install Linux. What's wrong with that.
On 29 Oct 2023 12:22:25 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
Le 17-10-2023, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> a écrit :
Uh huh, WSL 2 is an interesting feature,
Yes.
but it's just a fucking VM,
So what? It helps you avoid to install crapware like virtual box or
vmware to install Linux. What's wrong with that.
While I am not the biggest fan of VMs most of the Windows Server instances
in house and on our client sites are running in VMs and the whole cloud
thing is based on VMs. In some cases Linux and kvm is the base layer.
My problem with VMs is I/O. You can virtualize a NIC and so forth but
there is no magic and there is the potential for noisy neighbors.
Le 16-10-2023, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> a écrit :
On 10/16/2023 10:42 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
On 10/16/23 09:27, DFS wrote:
On 10/15/2023 1:09 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
On 10/15/23 10:19, DFS wrote:
Do you actually do any work with your Linux/Openbox crapbox?
Yes?
That's a solid, committed answer.
Yes. What is your point?
Just curious.
From what I've seen on cola, most Linux users don't do any work with
their GuhNoo hobbyware.
With the cloud, you can do a lot with a browser. So you can have servers running on Linux when you are actually using the computer provided by
your company. And when your company provides only Windows Desktops you
can still work with Linux.
Just tinkertoy playtime in the evenings and weekends.
In evenings and week-ends you can do a lot more than just tinkertoy.
Agreed, on evenings and week-end you can't do as much as what you do on
full time payed. But still, you can use Linux for real.
On 10/29/2023 9:38 AM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
Le 16-10-2023, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> a écrit :
On 10/16/2023 10:42 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
On 10/16/23 09:27, DFS wrote:
On 10/15/2023 1:09 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
On 10/15/23 10:19, DFS wrote:
Do you actually do any work with your Linux/Openbox crapbox?
Yes?
That's a solid, committed answer.
Yes. What is your point?
Just curious.
From what I've seen on cola, most Linux users don't do any work with
their GuhNoo hobbyware.
With the cloud, you can do a lot with a browser. So you can have servers
running on Linux when you are actually using the computer provided by
your company. And when your company provides only Windows Desktops you
can still work with Linux.
Yes.
My wife's company hosts some of their data on GCP, which is Google Cloud Platform and probably runs on Linux. I don't know what the actual
database servers are (BigQuery maybe), but she does a fair amount of
work inside GCP web apps, working with big data. Her laptop runs
Windows, and she prepares and distributes analytical results, charts and tables with MS Excel.
Just tinkertoy playtime in the evenings and weekends.
In evenings and week-ends you can do a lot more than just tinkertoy.
Agreed, on evenings and week-end you can't do as much as what you do on
full time payed. But still, you can use Linux for real.
play with blue themes for an hour
swap out your desktop environment 3x but go back to xfce
increase the taskbar height then decide you liked it where it was
change the clock display format 8x but go back to the original
thicken the window borders by 1/2mm
try 8 different fonts for your terminal
use ls with 22 different switches for an hour
"Linux is the best!"
You have boring compute sessions.
On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 13:04:54 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
play with blue themes for an hour
swap out your desktop environment 3x but go back to xfce
increase the taskbar height then decide you liked it where it was
change the clock display format 8x but go back to the original
thicken the window borders by 1/2mm
try 8 different fonts for your terminal
use ls with 22 different switches for an hour
"Linux is the best!"
You have boring compute sessions.
Just tinkertoy playtime in the evenings and weekends.
In evenings and week-ends you can do a lot more than just tinkertoy.
Agreed, on evenings and week-end you can't do as much as what you do on
full time payed. But still, you can use Linux for real.
play with blue themes for an hour
swap out your desktop environment 3x but go back to xfce
increase the taskbar height then decide you liked it where it was
change the clock display format 8x but go back to the original
thicken the window borders by 1/2mm
try 8 different fonts for your terminal
use ls with 22 different switches for an hour
"Linux is the best!"
I saw a lot of rice desktop images which, for me, have been done by
people you describe. The heavy impressive images show beautiful desktop
which have need hours to configure, and are, clearly, unusable. But it's
not the only way to use Linux.
Le 31-10-2023, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> a écrit :
Just tinkertoy playtime in the evenings and weekends.
In evenings and week-ends you can do a lot more than just tinkertoy.
Agreed, on evenings and week-end you can't do as much as what you do on
full time payed. But still, you can use Linux for real.
play with blue themes for an hour
swap out your desktop environment 3x but go back to xfce
increase the taskbar height then decide you liked it where it was
change the clock display format 8x but go back to the original
thicken the window borders by 1/2mm
try 8 different fonts for your terminal
use ls with 22 different switches for an hour
"Linux is the best!"
I saw a lot of rice desktop images which, for me, have been done by
people you describe. The heavy impressive images show beautiful desktop
which have need hours to configure, and are, clearly, unusable. But it's
not the only way to use Linux.
Le 31-10-2023, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> a écrit :
Just tinkertoy playtime in the evenings and weekends.
In evenings and week-ends you can do a lot more than just tinkertoy.
Agreed, on evenings and week-end you can't do as much as what you do on
full time payed. But still, you can use Linux for real.
play with blue themes for an hour
swap out your desktop environment 3x but go back to xfce
increase the taskbar height then decide you liked it where it was
change the clock display format 8x but go back to the original
thicken the window borders by 1/2mm
try 8 different fonts for your terminal
use ls with 22 different switches for an hour
"Linux is the best!"
I saw a lot of rice desktop images which, for me, have been done by
people you describe. The heavy impressive images show beautiful desktop
which have need hours to configure, and are, clearly, unusable. But it's
not the only way to use Linux.
It's like saying the only purpose of Windows is to play because you know people who use their computer only to launch games.
On 04 Nov 2023 10:23:00 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
I saw a lot of rice desktop images which, for me, have been done by
people you describe. The heavy impressive images show beautiful desktop
which have need hours to configure, and are, clearly, unusable. But it's
not the only way to use Linux.
For the most part I use what comes out of the box. The only configuration
I have done in recent history was on Windows 11. I moved the taskbar icons back to the left where they used to be and restored the full right click
on a file menu. I don't count setting up multiple desktops as
configuration although I suppose it is.
What little I've used Windows 11, I've also set it up to move the
taskbar icons to the left. I didn't know you could restore the right
click menu, but I knew I didn't like the way it works now. I'll have to
look into changing that.
On Sat, 4 Nov 2023 22:34:15 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
What little I've used Windows 11, I've also set it up to move the
taskbar icons to the left. I didn't know you could restore the right
click menu, but I knew I didn't like the way it works now. I'll have to
look into changing that.
https://pureinfotech.com/bring-back-classic-context-menu-windows-11/
It's a registry hack. Some sites have a .reg file to automate the process but it's easy enough with regedit.
It's completely obsolete now but I have a book of registry hacks. You
could turn on all sorts of things. Like this one most of them weren't
just setting a default in an existing key. You had to create the key,
which meant you had to know it even existed.
It was like Windows 2000 that would do tab completion in the terminal but
you had to turn it on.
That did it, thanks. So much "easier" to enter random numbers and
letters in the Registry Editor than to customize Linux.
When I set up a new computer with Linux Mint, it takes me about five minutes to customize the desktop the way I like it. Done in about the time it takes Windows to boot up and stop doing whatever it does in the background that doesn't allow you to get on the Internet.
On 04 Nov 2023 10:23:00 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
I saw a lot of rice desktop images which, for me, have been done by
people you describe. The heavy impressive images show beautiful desktop
which have need hours to configure, and are, clearly, unusable. But it's
not the only way to use Linux.
For the most part I use what comes out of the box. The only configuration
I have done in recent history was on Windows 11. I moved the taskbar icons back to the left where they used to be and restored the full right click
on a file menu. I don't count setting up multiple desktops as
configuration although I suppose it is.
Le 31-10-2023, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> a écrit :
I saw a lot of rice desktop images which, for me, have been done by
people you describe. The heavy impressive images show beautiful desktop
which have need hours to configure, and are, clearly, unusable. But it's
not the only way to use Linux.
The favorite desktop wallpapers of Linux users are preteen girl anime
pics.
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