In article <kp9ww.1232435$Rp.12...@fx23.iad>,
"Allan R. Batteiger" <a...@rtsi.com> writes:
bi...@server3.cs.scranton.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote in news:cicje1...@mid.individual.net:
In article <G3EQv.82916$Ub6....@fx20.iad>,
"Allan R. Batteiger" <a...@rtsi.com> writes:
Good morning
We have been busy updating OS-9 over the last year. New release
announcements will be coming soon. One Question for the die-hard
OS-9 users still out there. Would there be any interest in OS-9 on
a Raspberry PI or BeagleBone Black ? We are tossing around the idea
of an OS-9 for Eval that would be full featured but limited. The
basic concept is Purchase a flash card that boots OS-9. It has
enough to be barley useful. No definition of what the means yet. A
SDK would be availble for approx. the same price you would would pay
for Visual Studio or similar package. I am thinking the Flash card
would sell for approx $100. Would this be of any interest ? What
about the price ? Any suggestion on what should be included in the
flash ?
Allan,
How about another suggestion? The latest version of the Mindstorms
from Lego is an ARM9. It runs a Linux kernel. Ever given any thought
to putting OS9 on something like this? We use them here for teaching
undergraduate and graduate level Realtime Systems courses. There has
been a desire for better kernels since the very first Mindstorms when
someone developed something called BrickOS. This could be a chance to
get OS9 back in the public eye as these systems are being used from
elementary schools thru Universities and by many people who just like
playing with robots and other realtime applications. Heck, I just
watched a video where they were using sensors connected to a EV3 brick
to monitor labratory experiments. Having a decent realtime OS inside
the box could open that niche up even more, too.
Might even want to think about partnering with a University with this.
(wink wink). Maybe even starting an educational alliance program like
many computer business (like IBM!) have.
Just saying.....
bill
BillYeah, that fooled me, too. I thought ARMv8 -> ARM9. But appaently they
We have OS-9 running an about a dozen small ARM boards. I have not
looked at the MindStorms board. ARM9 is older technology I think. I
have two numbering systems and ARM9 is actually and ARMv4 cpu. But still valuable in the long run, I think.
would have to double check it. We have OS-9 basically running on the Raspberry PI and Beagle Bone Black. Also the Several Boards AllWinnerI was looking at more than running OS9 on an EV3. I was looking at all
A10, A20 A30 chips. Most of these boards are under $100. I will take
a look at the Mindstorms, but we are focued on updating OS-9 to support current ARM chips.
the places EV3's are showing up in education and the potential for OS9
to find its way into that environment. I still use OS9 on the 6809 and
have long wondered about porting it to other small systems, in particular
the PDP-11 and even the VAX (although that doesn't really qualify as a
small system architecturally). And then I have these QBUS 68K boards
that I thought would be nice homes for OS-9/68K. So many dreams, so
little opportunity. :-)
But I digress. I think finding a way into the education niche would be
a good thing. As people become more and more concerned about SCADA and security I expect there will be increased demand for realtime engineers
and why shouldn't they be working with what I always thought was the best
in realtime. :-)
All the best.
bill
--
Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves bill...@cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
University of Scranton |
Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>
Hello, veeeery old thread I know, but if anyone sees this -- did these discussed ports of OS-9 for Beaglebone, Pi, CubieBoard or TI Sitara chips ever complete?
If so, is anything still available to try?
I was an old time OS-9/68k user/developer and still do some embedded work. I would love to acquire (price allowing!) a way to do OS-9 on one of these ARM platforms. I have a Cubieboard v1 and a PI 3B.
Would even love to attempt a port if I had the chance. (I had experience porting OS-9/68k to custom boards, years ago.)
Thanks,
-Russ
On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 9:35:39 a.m. UTC-8, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
In article <kp9ww.1232435$Rp.12...@fx23.iad>,
"Allan R. Batteiger" <a...@rtsi.com> writes:
bi...@server3.cs.scranton.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote in news:cicje1...@mid.individual.net:
In article <G3EQv.82916$Ub6....@fx20.iad>,
"Allan R. Batteiger" <a...@rtsi.com> writes:
Good morning
We have been busy updating OS-9 over the last year. New release
announcements will be coming soon. One Question for the die-hard
OS-9 users still out there. Would there be any interest in OS-9 on
a Raspberry PI or BeagleBone Black ? We are tossing around the idea
of an OS-9 for Eval that would be full featured but limited. The
basic concept is Purchase a flash card that boots OS-9. It has
enough to be barley useful. No definition of what the means yet. A
SDK would be availble for approx. the same price you would would pay >>> for Visual Studio or similar package. I am thinking the Flash card
would sell for approx $100. Would this be of any interest ? What
about the price ? Any suggestion on what should be included in the
flash ?
Allan,
How about another suggestion? The latest version of the Mindstorms
from Lego is an ARM9. It runs a Linux kernel. Ever given any thought
to putting OS9 on something like this? We use them here for teaching
undergraduate and graduate level Realtime Systems courses. There has
been a desire for better kernels since the very first Mindstorms when
someone developed something called BrickOS. This could be a chance to
get OS9 back in the public eye as these systems are being used from
elementary schools thru Universities and by many people who just like
playing with robots and other realtime applications. Heck, I just
watched a video where they were using sensors connected to a EV3 brick >> to monitor labratory experiments. Having a decent realtime OS inside
the box could open that niche up even more, too.
Might even want to think about partnering with a University with this. >> (wink wink). Maybe even starting an educational alliance program like
many computer business (like IBM!) have.
Just saying.....
bill
BillYeah, that fooled me, too. I thought ARMv8 -> ARM9. But appaently they
We have OS-9 running an about a dozen small ARM boards. I have not
looked at the MindStorms board. ARM9 is older technology I think. I
have two numbering systems and ARM9 is actually and ARMv4 cpu. But still valuable in the long run, I think.
would have to double check it. We have OS-9 basically running on the Raspberry PI and Beagle Bone Black. Also the Several Boards AllWinner A10, A20 A30 chips. Most of these boards are under $100. I will takeI was looking at more than running OS9 on an EV3. I was looking at all
a look at the Mindstorms, but we are focued on updating OS-9 to support current ARM chips.
the places EV3's are showing up in education and the potential for OS9
to find its way into that environment. I still use OS9 on the 6809 and
have long wondered about porting it to other small systems, in particular the PDP-11 and even the VAX (although that doesn't really qualify as a small system architecturally). And then I have these QBUS 68K boards
that I thought would be nice homes for OS-9/68K. So many dreams, so
little opportunity. :-)
But I digress. I think finding a way into the education niche would be
a good thing. As people become more and more concerned about SCADA and security I expect there will be increased demand for realtime engineers
and why shouldn't they be working with what I always thought was the best in realtime. :-)
All the best.
bill
Hi All--
Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves bill...@cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton |
Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>
On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 6:24:50 AM UTC+7, Nuclear Squid!! wrote:
Hello, veeeery old thread I know, but if anyone sees this -- did these discussed ports of OS-9 for Beaglebone, Pi, CubieBoard or TI Sitara chips ever complete?
If so, is anything still available to try?
I was an old time OS-9/68k user/developer and still do some embedded work. I would love to acquire (price allowing!) a way to do OS-9 on one of these ARM platforms. I have a Cubieboard v1 and a PI 3B.
Would even love to attempt a port if I had the chance. (I had experience porting OS-9/68k to custom boards, years ago.)
Thanks,
-Russ
On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 9:35:39 a.m. UTC-8, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
In article <kp9ww.1232435$Rp.12...@fx23.iad>,
"Allan R. Batteiger" <a...@rtsi.com> writes:
bi...@server3.cs.scranton.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote in news:cicje1...@mid.individual.net:
In article <G3EQv.82916$Ub6....@fx20.iad>,
"Allan R. Batteiger" <a...@rtsi.com> writes:
Good morning
We have been busy updating OS-9 over the last year. New release
announcements will be coming soon. One Question for the die-hard
OS-9 users still out there. Would there be any interest in OS-9 on >>> a Raspberry PI or BeagleBone Black ? We are tossing around the idea >>> of an OS-9 for Eval that would be full featured but limited. The
basic concept is Purchase a flash card that boots OS-9. It has
enough to be barley useful. No definition of what the means yet. A >>> SDK would be availble for approx. the same price you would would pay >>> for Visual Studio or similar package. I am thinking the Flash card >>> would sell for approx $100. Would this be of any interest ? What
about the price ? Any suggestion on what should be included in the >>> flash ?
Allan,
How about another suggestion? The latest version of the Mindstorms
from Lego is an ARM9. It runs a Linux kernel. Ever given any thought >> to putting OS9 on something like this? We use them here for teaching >> undergraduate and graduate level Realtime Systems courses. There has >> been a desire for better kernels since the very first Mindstorms when >> someone developed something called BrickOS. This could be a chance to >> get OS9 back in the public eye as these systems are being used from
elementary schools thru Universities and by many people who just like >> playing with robots and other realtime applications. Heck, I just
watched a video where they were using sensors connected to a EV3 brick >> to monitor labratory experiments. Having a decent realtime OS inside >> the box could open that niche up even more, too.
Might even want to think about partnering with a University with this. >> (wink wink). Maybe even starting an educational alliance program like >> many computer business (like IBM!) have.
Just saying.....
bill
BillYeah, that fooled me, too. I thought ARMv8 -> ARM9. But appaently they have two numbering systems and ARM9 is actually and ARMv4 cpu. But still valuable in the long run, I think.
We have OS-9 running an about a dozen small ARM boards. I have not looked at the MindStorms board. ARM9 is older technology I think. I
would have to double check it. We have OS-9 basically running on the Raspberry PI and Beagle Bone Black. Also the Several Boards AllWinner A10, A20 A30 chips. Most of these boards are under $100. I will takeI was looking at more than running OS9 on an EV3. I was looking at all the places EV3's are showing up in education and the potential for OS9
a look at the Mindstorms, but we are focued on updating OS-9 to support current ARM chips.
to find its way into that environment. I still use OS9 on the 6809 and have long wondered about porting it to other small systems, in particular the PDP-11 and even the VAX (although that doesn't really qualify as a small system architecturally). And then I have these QBUS 68K boards
that I thought would be nice homes for OS-9/68K. So many dreams, so little opportunity. :-)
But I digress. I think finding a way into the education niche would be
a good thing. As people become more and more concerned about SCADA and security I expect there will be increased demand for realtime engineers and why shouldn't they be working with what I always thought was the best in realtime. :-)
All the best.
bill
By the way there is an OS-9 group on LinkedIn that is more up to dateHi All--
Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves bill...@cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton |
Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>
I have not been in touch with Allan for a long time but the last time we made contact he informed me the "target" hobbyist
board was then the Raspberry P Zero and that the release was nearly ready. That was a long time ago and for me the Zero is not so
interesting. There are problems with the earlier Pi's due to the fact that USB and Ethernet are not native.
I am still very interested in OS-9 on the Pi (preferably the 4) since I have a complete SCADA system that needs porting and if there
is a Hobbyist release I am quite happy to work with others in the community to bring it back to life
All the best
ke...@linklaser.com
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