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  • Looking for a Harddisk Driver for 53C710

    From kleinebuehnehiesfeld@googlemail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 14 00:07:07 2019
    Hi,

    after using OS-9 very regularly about 25 years ago (on a 68000) to write software, port TeX and writing documentation with TeX, I have now got a VME board with a 68040. There is an MVME 162 board with OS-9 in the flash memory, unfortunately missing is
    the SCSI device NCR 53C710, which I will solder to this board, and a corresponding RBF driver for this device.
    Does any of you have a suitable SCSI driver for this board?

    Greetings and thank you

    Ralf Neerfeld

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  • From Kaos Engineer@21:1/5 to Ralf on Tue May 14 20:56:36 2019
    On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 2:07:08 AM UTC-5, Ralf wrote:
    Hi,

    after using OS-9 very regularly about 25 years ago (on a 68000) to write software, port TeX and writing documentation with TeX, I have now got a VME board with a 68040. There is an MVME 162 board with OS-9 in the flash memory, unfortunately missing is
    the SCSI device NCR 53C710, which I will solder to this board, and a corresponding RBF driver for this device.
    Does any of you have a suitable SCSI driver for this board?

    Greetings and thank you

    Ralf Neerfeld

    The module(s) for the SCSI driver may be in flash memory but is/are not loaded into main memory for the OS to use since the controller chip is not present on your MVME 162 board. OS-9's startup file may not be configured to load them.

    I thought there was a command to list all the modules/drivers available in the flash. It's been too long since I last used OS-9/68K -- was/is there a command

    dir -m

    to list all the modules present in ROM/RAM.

    From wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS-9):

    OS-9 keeps a "module directory", a memory-resident list of all modules that are in memory either by having been loaded, or by having been found in ROM during an initial scan at boot time.


    I saw an old post circa 1992 about Microware's OS-9/167 Development Pak which includes the OS-9/167 Real-Time Operating System modules and device drivers as well as the full suite of development tools for $3000 and a run-time version for $1500. The post
    stated that it had drivers for all the onboard I/O devices which included the NCR 53C710 SCSI controller. The company I used to work for decades ago that used 68020/30/40 MVME single-board computers most likely had that Development Pak. Not that it does
    you any good today. :(

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  • From Kaos Engineer@21:1/5 to Ralf on Tue May 14 22:30:06 2019
    On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 2:07:08 AM UTC-5, Ralf wrote:
    Hi,

    after using OS-9 very regularly about 25 years ago (on a 68000) to write software, port TeX and writing documentation with TeX, I have now got a VME board with a 68040. There is an MVME 162 board with OS-9 in the flash memory, unfortunately missing is
    the SCSI device NCR 53C710, which I will solder to this board, and a corresponding RBF driver for this device.
    Does any of you have a suitable SCSI driver for this board?

    Greetings and thank you

    Ralf Neerfeld

    mdir not dir -m

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  • From Kaos Engineer@21:1/5 to Ralf on Tue May 14 23:10:40 2019
    On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 2:07:08 AM UTC-5, Ralf wrote:
    Hi,

    after using OS-9 very regularly about 25 years ago (on a 68000) to write software, port TeX and writing documentation with TeX, I have now got a VME board with a 68040. There is an MVME 162 board with OS-9 in the flash memory, unfortunately missing is
    the SCSI device NCR 53C710, which I will solder to this board, and a corresponding RBF driver for this device.
    Does any of you have a suitable SCSI driver for this board?

    Greetings and thank you

    Ralf Neerfeld

    Found a manual from 2001 online by RadiSys - OS-9 for 68K Processors MVME Board Guide (https://www.bwi.com/document/3889) has information about the module names for the MVME162 board on page 40. There's documentation on jumper configurations and more
    too.

    Good luck,
    Kaos Engineer

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  • From Ralf@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 16 01:55:24 2019
    Am Mittwoch, 15. Mai 2019 08:10:40 UTC+2 schrieb Kaos Engineer:
    On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 2:07:08 AM UTC-5, Ralf wrote:
    Hi,

    after using OS-9 very regularly about 25 years ago (on a 68000) to write software, port TeX and writing documentation with TeX, I have now got a VME board with a 68040. There is an MVME 162 board with OS-9 in the flash memory, unfortunately missing
    is the SCSI device NCR 53C710, which I will solder to this board, and a corresponding RBF driver for this device.
    Does any of you have a suitable SCSI driver for this board?

    Greetings and thank you

    Ralf Neerfeld

    Found a manual from 2001 online by RadiSys - OS-9 for 68K Processors MVME Board Guide (https://www.bwi.com/document/3889) has information about the module names for the MVME162 board on page 40. There's documentation on jumper configurations and more
    too.

    Good luck,
    Kaos Engineer

    Thank you for your answers and comments!
    I took a look into the module directory and the flash rom:

    $ mdir -e
    Addr Size Owner Perm Type Revs Ed # Lnk Module name
    -------- -------- ----------- ---- ---- ---- ----- ----- -------------- 00008b00 28108 0.0 0555 Sys a000 276 2 kernel
    0000f8cc 5658 0.0 0555 Sys a000 30 1 ioman
    00010ee6 2260 0.0 0555 Fman a000 46 2 scf
    000117ba 6140 0.0 0555 Sys a000 11 1 fpu
    00012fb6 526 0.2 0555 Sys 8000 43 0 init
    000131c4 294 0.0 0555 Sys a000 3 1 snoopE62
    000132ea 494 0.0 0555 Sys a000 9 1 tkE62
    000134d8 444 0.0 0555 Subr a000 2 0 rtclock
    00013694 1810 0.0 0555 Driv a000 37 2 scE62
    00013da6 122 0.0 0557 Desc 8000 6 2 term
    00013e20 120 0.0 0557 Desc 8000 6 0 t1
    00013e98 18058 1.0 0555 Trap c009 6 0 cio
    00018522 43478 1.0 0555 Trap c009 19 1 csl
    00022ef8 174 0.0 0555 Driv a000 1 0 null
    00022fa6 120 0.0 0555 Desc 8000 3 0 nil
    0002301e 102 0.0 0555 Desc 8000 2 0 pipe
    00023084 3000 0.0 0555 Fman a000 48 0 pipeman
    00023c3c 7798 1.0 0555 Trap c001 13 0 math
    00025ab2 120 0.0 0555 Desc 8000 6 0 wa
    00025b2a 464 0.2 0555 Prog 0000 4 1 sysrun
    00025cfa 29140 0.3 0555 Prog 8001 18016 0 startup
    ff884d7e 20330 1.0 0555 Prog c001 60 1 shell
    ff889ce8 1932 0.0 0555 Prog c001 6 0 break
    ff88a474 52628 0.0 0555 Prog c001 51 0 debug
    ff897208 2576 1.0 0555 Prog c001 20 0 mfree
    ff897c18 5472 1.0 0555 Prog c001 26 0 procs
    ff899178 7528 1.0 0555 Prog c001 28 0 tmode
    ff89aee0 4254 1.0 0555 Prog c001 26 1 mdir
    ff89bf7e 4830 1.0 0555 Prog c001 29 0 dump
    ff89d25c 8970 1.0 0555 Prog c001 39 0 ident
    ff89f566 5162 1.0 0555 Prog c001 10 0 irqs
    000f5170 144 0.0 0333 Data 8000 1 1 error_dm

    The system ticker and scf driver are present, but no scsi driver.

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  • From Ralf Kiefer@21:1/5 to Ralf on Thu May 16 13:53:25 2019
    Ralf wrote:

    The system ticker and scf driver are present, but no scsi driver.

    ... and no rbf.

    Some modules are in RAM (up to $00025cfa), others are in the ROM (from $ff884d7e). Probably there are some more modules in the ROM but not
    recognized during boot process. Can you dump the init module?

    There is no application except "startup" which is just 20kB. What was
    the former function of this CPU?

    Ralf

    P.S.: Is your mail address valid?

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  • From simondaniel301@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 10 04:43:40 2020
    Am Donnerstag, 16. Mai 2019 13:53:28 UTC+2 schrieb Ralf Kiefer:
    Ralf wrote:

    The system ticker and scf driver are present, but no scsi driver.

    ... and no rbf.

    Some modules are in RAM (up to $00025cfa), others are in the ROM (from $ff884d7e). Probably there are some more modules in the ROM but not recognized during boot process. Can you dump the init module?

    There is no application except "startup" which is just 20kB. What was
    the former function of this CPU?

    Ralf

    P.S.: Is your mail address valid?

    Hello Ralf, if you need the SCSI driver for 53C710 (scsi162) I can send it to you. Witch OS-version do you use? 2.x,3.x or 4.x
    best regads
    Daniel -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    SimonTech Aachen Software Dienstleistungen, Bonhoeffer Str. 9, D-52078 Aachen

    Daniel Simon
    mailto:d.simon@simontech.de http://www.simontech.de
    phone : +49 241 562411
    fax. : +49 241 562433
    mobil : +49 171 3844418

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