• move Win10 setup to a VM...

    From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 4 17:50:55 2021
    Title says it all, has anyone taken a working bare installation windows
    10 machine, and installed linux on it and moved win10 to a virtual box VM?



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  • From Carlos E. R.@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Wed Oct 6 10:23:38 2021
    On 04/10/2021 18.50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Title says it all, has anyone taken a working bare installation windows
    10 machine, and installed linux on it and moved win10 to a virtual box VM?

    I think I tried long ago with another version of Windows. Can work.
    Sometimes not.

    AFAIK, when you install windows it customizes for that machine, so
    cloning and migrating to a VM may break it.

    I have a foggy memory of doing that migration and then having a boot
    hell of not having the correct drivers for the "new" hardware and
    installing them with many reboots to recovery mode and back.

    Notice that instead of using a virtual disk you can tell the virtual
    machine to use the actual disk partitions instead.


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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Carlos E. R. on Wed Oct 6 10:44:01 2021
    On 06/10/2021 09:23, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 04/10/2021 18.50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Title says it all, has anyone taken a working bare installation windows
    10 machine, and installed linux on it and moved win10 to a virtual box VM?

    I think I tried long ago with another version of Windows. Can work.
    Sometimes not.

    AFAIK, when you install windows it customizes for that machine, so
    cloning and migrating to a VM may break it.

    I have a foggy memory of doing that migration and then having a boot
    hell of not having the correct drivers for the "new" hardware and
    installing them with many reboots to recovery mode and back.

    Notice that instead of using a virtual disk you can tell the virtual
    machine to use the actual disk partitions instead.


    I did a bit of digging, and frankly there are changes to the 'hardware'
    that make that not work.

    I think even given a valid widows serial number you cant reinstall on
    'another' machine.?


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  • From Carlos E. R.@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Wed Oct 6 13:17:38 2021
    On 06/10/2021 11.44, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 06/10/2021 09:23, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 04/10/2021 18.50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Title says it all, has anyone taken a working bare installation windows
    10 machine, and installed linux on it and moved win10 to a virtual
    box VM?

    I think I tried long ago with another version of Windows. Can work.
    Sometimes not.

    AFAIK, when you install windows it customizes for that machine, so
    cloning and migrating to a VM may break it.

    I have a foggy memory of doing that migration and then having a boot
    hell of not having the correct drivers for the "new" hardware and
    installing them with many reboots to recovery mode and back.

    Notice that instead of using a virtual disk you can tell the virtual
    machine to use the actual disk partitions instead.


    I did a bit of digging, and frankly there are changes to the 'hardware'
    that make that not work.

    I think even given a valid widows serial number you cant reinstall on 'another' machine.?

    I think that needed a phone call to M$.



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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Carlos E. R. on Wed Oct 6 15:45:58 2021
    On 06/10/2021 12:17, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 06/10/2021 11.44, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 06/10/2021 09:23, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 04/10/2021 18.50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Title says it all, has anyone taken a working bare installation windows >>>> 10 machine, and installed linux on it and moved win10 to a virtual
    box VM?

    I think I tried long ago with another version of Windows. Can work.
    Sometimes not.

    AFAIK, when you install windows it customizes for that machine, so
    cloning and migrating to a VM may break it.

    I have a foggy memory of doing that migration and then having a boot
    hell of not having the correct drivers for the "new" hardware and
    installing them with many reboots to recovery mode and back.

    Notice that instead of using a virtual disk you can tell the virtual
    machine to use the actual disk partitions instead.


    I did a bit of digging, and frankly there are changes to the 'hardware'
    that make that not work.

    I think even given a valid widows serial number you cant reinstall on
    'another' machine.?

    I think that needed a phone call to M$.



    FTFAGOS
    (Fuck that for a game of soldiers)

    I probably don't need windows 10 *that* much.
    I am just moving machines around because one died, and a S/H i5 HP
    elite was available at a sane price with a massive SSD disk and win10
    but will of course be linux, and I'll move my old WINXP VM onto it.
    Was wondering about a win10 VM, but really I don't need it.

    Could make it dual boot I suppose, but why would I need win 10?

    Might as well keep the license number and wipe it

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Wed Oct 6 10:50:11 2021
    On 10/6/21 07:45, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 06/10/2021 12:17, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 06/10/2021 11.44, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 06/10/2021 09:23, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 04/10/2021 18.50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Title says it all, has anyone taken a working bare installation
    windows
    10 machine, and installed linux on it and moved win10 to a virtual
    box VM?

    I think I tried long ago with another version of Windows. Can work.
    Sometimes not.

    AFAIK, when you install windows it customizes for that machine, so
    cloning and migrating to a VM may break it.

    I have a foggy memory of doing that migration and then having a boot
    hell of not having the correct drivers for the "new" hardware and
    installing them with many reboots to recovery mode and back.

    Notice that instead of using a virtual disk you can tell the virtual
    machine to use the actual disk partitions instead.


    I did a bit of digging, and frankly there are changes to the 'hardware'
    that make that not work.

    I think even given a valid widows serial number you cant reinstall on
    'another' machine.?

    I think that needed a phone call to M$.



    FTFAGOS
    (Fuck that for a game of soldiers)

    I probably don't need windows 10 *that* much.
    I am just moving machines around because one died, and a S/H i5  HP
    elite was available at a sane price with a massive SSD disk and win10
    but will of course be linux, and I'll move my old WINXP VM onto it.
    Was wondering about a win10 VM, but really I don't need it.

    Could make it dual boot I suppose, but why would I need win 10?

    Might as well keep the license number and wipe it


    But if you want Windows in a virtual machine you can with minimal effort find a Windows install iso on the Internet and using
    that iso, install which ever version of Windows you want to use to a
    virtual machine.

    bliss-“Nearly any fool can use a GNU/Linux computer. Many do.” After
    all here I am...

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Bobbie Sellers on Thu Oct 7 02:35:47 2021
    On 06/10/2021 18:50, Bobbie Sellers wrote:


        But if you want Windows in a virtual machine you can with minimal effort find a Windows install iso on the Internet and using
    that iso, install which ever version of Windows you want to use to a
    virtual machine.

    Doesn't that need a key to activate? been at least 15 years since I
    installed windows ...



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    battle dance and dream of glory … The good of dead warriors, Mother, is
    that they are dead.
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  • From Philip Nienhuis@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Thu Oct 7 20:35:39 2021
    The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 06/10/2021 18:50, Bobbie Sellers wrote:


         But if you want Windows in a virtual machine you can with minimal >> effort find a Windows install iso on the Internet and using
    that iso, install which ever version of Windows you want to use to a
    virtual machine.

    Doesn't that need a key to activate? been at least 15 years since I
    installed windows ...

    It's even easier: here you can find ready-baked Windows 10 VM images, no
    key needed, directly from M$ itself:

    https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Philip Nienhuis on Fri Oct 8 09:26:53 2021
    On 07/10/2021 19:35, Philip Nienhuis wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 06/10/2021 18:50, Bobbie Sellers wrote:


         But if you want Windows in a virtual machine you can with
    minimal effort find a Windows install iso on the Internet and using
    that iso, install which ever version of Windows you want to use to a
    virtual machine.

    Doesn't that need a key to activate? been at least 15 years since I
    installed windows ...

    It's even easier: here you can find ready-baked Windows 10 VM images, no
    key needed, directly from M$ itself:

    https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/



    time limited though. Although in my case a snapshot reset would not
    necessarily be a bad thing.

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