• Coherent questions.

    From wordpress@wesleykranitz.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 17 23:03:15 2019
    I didn't realize this group still existed. I actually have 4.2.10 running on an older Pentium system. I have some questions:

    1) www.autometer.de has a lot of coherent software on it. Using a browser will take forever to download. I wanted to us ftp to download the tree, but for the life of me I haven't been able to get FileZilla to connect, no matter what I try. Any idea's on
    what I setting I could use to get FileZilla to connect?


    2) What changes were made in the 4.2.12 release. I'm going to try to compile that from the download.


    3)I found some information on supposedly an updated driver for the hardrive. Anyone know anything about that?? One that handled 2 controllers, Udma, and Busmastering would be interesting.

    4)A cdrom driver of an IDE Cdrom would be interesting.


    5) Does anyone know of any Tcp/Ip work one coherent.


    I'm a retired Software engineer, and I'm having fun playing with Coherent. I may try to make some changes like expanding the 12mb memory limit, but we'll see.

    Thanks for listening and any answers to my questions would be greatly appreciated.


    Wes

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  • From Udo Munk@21:1/5 to Wesley Kranitz on Mon Mar 18 11:31:24 2019
    On Monday, March 18, 2019 at 7:03:16 AM UTC+1, Wesley Kranitz wrote:

    1) www.autometer.de has a lot of coherent software on it. Using a browser will take forever
    to download. I wanted to us ftp to download the tree, but for the life of me I haven't been
    able to get FileZilla to connect, no matter what I try. Any idea's on what I setting I could
    use to get FileZilla to connect?

    Anonymous ftp is not available, sorry.

    2) What changes were made in the 4.2.12 release. I'm going to try to compile that from the download.

    The 4.2.12 kernel sources can be compiled on a 4.2.10 system, no problem. I've setup a VM
    with all that usable on VirtualBox, Qemu and PCem. For the changes I would suggest to use
    diff against the 4.2.10 sources, it's too much to mention it all.

    3)I found some information on supposedly an updated driver for the hardrive. Anyone know
    anything about that?? One that handled 2 controllers, Udma, and Busmastering would be
    interesting.

    Yes the hard disk drivers also were improved. Two controllers are possible with one IDE and
    one SCSI controller, but not two of the same. Busmastering is only supported with Adaptec
    SCSI controllers.

    4)A cdrom driver of an IDE Cdrom would be interesting.

    Indeed, other than SCSI CDROM support the other supported controllers are outdated
    and not much useful anymore.

    5) Does anyone know of any Tcp/Ip work one coherent.

    Nothing from MWC was released. There are several user community ports of packet radio
    TCP/IP like KA9Q and K5JB for serial lines and NE2000 networking cards. Not very useful
    because clients and servers are in a single user land program.

    Thanks for listening and any answers to my questions would be greatly appreciated.
    Wes

    You are welcome,
    Udo

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  • From Wesley Kranitz@21:1/5 to Udo Munk on Mon Mar 18 22:11:04 2019
    On Monday, March 18, 2019 at 1:31:25 PM UTC-5, Udo Munk wrote:
    On Monday, March 18, 2019 at 7:03:16 AM UTC+1, Wesley Kranitz wrote:

    1) www.autometer.de has a lot of coherent software on it. Using a browser will take forever
    to download. I wanted to us ftp to download the tree, but for the life of me I haven't been
    able to get FileZilla to connect, no matter what I try. Any idea's on what I setting I could
    use to get FileZilla to connect?

    Anonymous ftp is not available, sorry.

    Oh well. It was a thought. The only one that's going to be a bear to download, would be the BBS code. Do you think there's any possibility of getting that source tree into a compressed tar??? It would certainly be a lot easier to download through a
    browser that way.


    2) What changes were made in the 4.2.12 release. I'm going to try to compile that from the download.

    The 4.2.12 kernel sources can be compiled on a 4.2.10 system, no problem. I've setup a VM
    with all that usable on VirtualBox, Qemu and PCem. For the changes I would suggest to use
    diff against the 4.2.10 sources, it's too much to mention it all.


    I was just hoping that there were release notes somewhere, that's all. I'll see about diff'ing everything.

    3)I found some information on supposedly an updated driver for the hardrive. Anyone know
    anything about that?? One that handled 2 controllers, Udma, and Busmastering would be
    interesting.

    Yes the hard disk drivers also were improved. Two controllers are possible with one IDE and
    one SCSI controller, but not two of the same. Busmastering is only supported with Adaptec
    SCSI controllers.


    I found a site that had something called Lanibase on it. It looked like someone had written a driver for a Realtek ethernet card and also a IDE driver that handled large drives and had busmastering. But I didn't see any code offered and I was just
    ondering if you new of any.

    4)A cdrom driver of an IDE Cdrom would be interesting.

    Indeed, other than SCSI CDROM support the other supported controllers are outdated
    and not much useful anymore.


    I'll have to make this a quest of mine. It's been a number of years since I retired and I'm a little rusty at writing kernel code and device drivers. But I'm looking for a challenge, so I might give it a go.

    5) Does anyone know of any Tcp/Ip work one coherent.

    Nothing from MWC was released. There are several user community ports of packet radio
    TCP/IP like KA9Q and K5JB for serial lines and NE2000 networking cards. Not very useful
    because clients and servers are in a single user land program.


    See my response to three above.


    Thanks for listening and any answers to my questions would be greatly appreciated.
    Wes

    You are welcome,
    Udo

    Udo, I appreciate your responses. Just a side note here. I followed your instructions to set up VirtualBox. Running FSCK is super slow. However, I found that turning off VirtualBox's disk caching seems to speed that up significantly. Just a note for
    anyone trying to set that up.


    Thanks again,
    Wes


    PS, I live in Wisconsin. One time, on the way home from the theater in Lincolnshire, Illinois, my wife and I took the scenic route back home and went past your office's in Northbrook. I want to stop in and tell you all how much I liked using Coherent,
    but my wife was tired and wanted to get back home, so we didn't stop. Too bad. I would have liked to have met some of people involved.

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  • From Udo Munk@21:1/5 to Wesley Kranitz on Tue Mar 19 13:07:01 2019
    On Tuesday, March 19, 2019 at 6:11:05 AM UTC+1, Wesley Kranitz wrote:

    Oh well. It was a thought. The only one that's going to be a bear to download,
    would be the BBS code. Do you think there's any possibility of getting that source
    tree into a compressed tar??? It would certainly be a lot easier to download through
    a browser that way.

    No problem, I have put the BBS and GNU trees into gripped tar archives, so that you can
    get them at once.

    I was just hoping that there were release notes somewhere, that's all. I'll see
    about diff'ing everything.

    Unfortunately the 4.2.10 release notes is the latest archived version.

    I found a site that had something called Lanibase on it. It looked like someone
    had written a driver for a Realtek ethernet card and also a IDE driver that handled
    large drives and had busmastering. But I didn't see any code offered and I was just
    ondering if you new of any.

    This work was done under NDA before the MWC sources became Open Source,
    nothing of this is available.

    I'll have to make this a quest of mine. It's been a number of years since I retired and
    I'm a little rusty at writing kernel code and device drivers. But I'm looking for a
    challenge, so I might give it a go.

    Such things now can be done in public with Open Source.

    Udo, I appreciate your responses. Just a side note here. I followed your instructions
    to set up VirtualBox. Running FSCK is super slow. However, I found that turning off
    VirtualBox's disk caching seems to speed that up significantly. Just a note for anyone
    trying to set that up.

    Indeed, the VirtualBox log is full with controller reset messages caused by watchdog
    timeouts. Still not working correct...

    Thanks again,
    Wes


    PS, I live in Wisconsin. One time, on the way home from the theater in Lincolnshire,
    Illinois, my wife and I took the scenic route back home and went past your office's
    in Northbrook. I want to stop in and tell you all how much I liked using Coherent,
    but my wife was tired and wanted to get back home, so we didn't stop. Too bad.
    I would have liked to have met some of people involved.

    The office in Northbrook was a real nice place with a buch of very bright people to
    work with. I'm sure you would have liked a visit, oh well.

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  • From Wesley Kranitz@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 20 13:51:27 2019
    UDO,

    First, let me thank you for TARing those. It took me about 15 seconds to download both. I'm sure it'll make it easier for others also.

    On the software written under an NDA. The laws must be different in the EU than the US. If the NDA was with MWC, then the owner of the software releases for public use (such as open source), then that NDA becomes unenforceable as it has been freely
    disclosed to the public. I had an NDA with COMPAQ and had the schematics for the compact portable (which by the way, I still own). When COMPAQ released those schematics through SAM's publishing, My NDA was null and void, as the information was now
    publicly available.


    Anyways, thanks again for your help.


    Take care,

    Wes

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  • From Udo Munk@21:1/5 to Wesley Kranitz on Wed Mar 20 15:06:53 2019
    On Wednesday, March 20, 2019 at 9:51:28 PM UTC+1, Wesley Kranitz wrote:
    UDO,

    First, let me thank you for TARing those. It took me about 15 seconds to download both. I'm sure
    it'll make it easier for others also.

    Sure does, you were the first asking about it tho.

    On the software written under an NDA. The laws must be different in the EU than the US.
    If the NDA was with MWC, then the owner of the software releases for public use (such as
    open source), then that NDA becomes unenforceable as it has been freely disclosed to the
    public. I had an NDA with COMPAQ and had the schematics for the compact portable (which
    by the way, I still own). When COMPAQ released those schematics through SAM's publishing,
    My NDA was null and void, as the information was now publicly available.

    Right, after open disclosure of all sources the NDA is void and the sources could be made
    public now. One would have to contact Andrzej about that...

    Anyways, thanks again for your help.
    Take care,
    Wes

    You're welcome and you take care too,
    Udo

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  • From Wesley Kranitz@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 20 17:33:15 2019
    UDO,

    On the software written under an NDA. The laws must be different in the EU than the US.
    If the NDA was with MWC, then the owner of the software releases for public use (such as
    open source), then that NDA becomes unenforceable as it has been freely disclosed to the
    public. I had an NDA with COMPAQ and had the schematics for the compact portable (which
    by the way, I still own). When COMPAQ released those schematics through SAM's publishing,
    My NDA was null and void, as the information was now publicly available.

    Right, after open disclosure of all sources the NDA is void and the sources could be made
    public now. One would have to contact Andrzej about that...

    You wouldn't happen to know his current email address, would you. I sent him
    an email using the email address in his posts, but it bounce as Invalid.

    Thanks,

    Wes

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  • From Udo Munk@21:1/5 to Wesley Kranitz on Thu Mar 21 01:10:52 2019
    On Thursday, March 21, 2019 at 1:33:16 AM UTC+1, Wesley Kranitz wrote:

    You wouldn't happen to know his current email address, would you. I sent him an email using the email address in his posts, but it bounce as Invalid.

    I also only have the email address he used for posting here, sorry.

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