• IBM VisualAge for BASIC?

    From Allan@21:1/5 to Dariusz Piatkowski on Thu Mar 3 03:12:08 2016
    On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 15:05:12 UTC, "Dariusz Piatkowski" <dariusz@_NO-SPAM_mnsi.net> wrote:

    Hi Dave!

    On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 04:20:46 UTC, Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> wrote:

    Dariusz Piatkowski wrote:
    Folks!

    My young son is showing some interest in computer programming...what I want to
    walk him through is the real basics...thus the focus on BASIC!

    There used to be VisualAge for BASIC product on our platform some time back...and judging by various posts it wasn't really much of a success. However...I am looking for something that basically has a decent GUI and very
    straight forward 'hello world' type program development capabilities.

    I have VA for C/C++ installed here, Watcom, etc, etc...but do not want him
    starting with something like C or Java...we want very simple...

    Any ideas, recommendations?

    Remember, 9yo is your audience...

    There is always qbasic, very primitive IDE but it comes with OS/2.
    If you want him to learn something more structured there are a few implementations of Pascal on OS/2 as well.


    Actually...that was indeed one of the first things I tried...seeing BASIC.COM,
    BASICA.COM & QBASIC.EXE caused memories of programming early Commodore64 rush through my head...LOL...problem though, on my OS2 machine, attempting to open up
    a DOS window actually fails. I believe there is some kind of a problem with either the SNAP drivers and my ATI 850XT video card, or some other part of the
    system.

    I did my share of Pascal back in the high-school days (North America circa '87-'89) so indeed, that may be worth a try.

    Then you might wanna try WDSibyl, which is Pascal and RAD just as
    mentioned BASIC package.

    http://wdsibyl.org

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    Allan.

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  • From A.D. Fundum@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 4 09:57:02 2016
    The former young son now probably is graduated in Computer Sciences,
    but BASIC wasn't a restriction and it had to be simple. In general:
    any of the visual Rexx environments, like the free VisPro/Rexx suite
    or equivalents. Rexx is simple, and the GUI aren't too complicated.
    One can start with SAA Rexx to learn basic programming skills, and
    then continue with such an IDE.


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  • From Andreas Kohl@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 1 21:25:00 2016
    Dobry wieczór,

    Am 29.02.12 um 04.06 schrieb Dariusz Piatkowski:
    Folks!

    My young son is showing some interest in computer programming...what I want to
    walk him through is the real basics...thus the focus on BASIC!

    There used to be VisualAge for BASIC product on our platform some time back...and judging by various posts it wasn't really much of a success. However...I am looking for something that basically has a decent GUI and very straight forward 'hello world' type program development capabilities.

    Yes, a limited beta version came with Warp 4 Application Sampler. It's
    use was more an interface for DB2 database stuff, similiar to
    CA-Realizer something for RAD or doing prototypes.


    I have VA for C/C++ installed here, Watcom, etc, etc...but do not want him starting with something like C or Java...we want very simple...

    Any ideas, recommendations?

    At <http://www.edm2.com> there are also longer lists of native or
    DOS-based solutions for each programming language. I can recommend
    Virtual Pascal. Most Turbo Pascal samples need only a change for the
    unit to produce a 32-bit OS/2 or Win program. And it can also do more
    fancier things.

    --
    Andreas

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