• Re: Can a caller know that my phone is on Do Not Disturb?

    From Andrew@21:1/5 to "Stan Brown on Wed Mar 13 23:12:50 2024
    "Stan Brown wrote on Wed, 13 Mar 2024 15:28:52 -0700 :

    The New York Times today mentioned that people who call or message an
    iPhone that's on DND get a reply telling them it's on DND, but the
    article (URL below) didn't say anything either way about Androids. I
    don't see anything promising in Settings under Do Not Disturb.

    <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/style/do-not-disturb-phone- setting.html?unlocked_article_code=1.cU0.EsXn.FqT98zMMXeK7&smid=url-
    share>

    The Times has a paywall, but the abopve URL, provided by the Times,
    gets you past it for this article.

    I didn't look at the article as I was curious about the question in the
    subject line so I first ran a quick google search to find out the answer. https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=do+callers+know+android+is+on+do+not+disturb+dnd

    Here's what this hit said about your exact question: https://techwiser.com/what-happens-when-your-phone-is-on-do-not-disturb/#Will-Others-Be-Able-to-Tell-if-I-Enable-Do-Not-Disturb-on-My-Phone
    Q: Will Others Be Able to Tell if I Enable Do Not Disturb on My Phone
    A: No, others will not be able to tell if your phone is in DND mode.
    When someone calls you, their call will go to voicemail as usual.
    The only time people can tell your phone is on DND is when you
    use it while driving because it sends an automatic message.

    Hmmm... to me that's not a "no" but more of a "sometimes yes", right?

    This article says you can selectively let others know you're on DND. https://www.guidingtech.com/why-getting-calls-do-not-disturb-on/
    Q: How to let people know your phone is on DND?
    A: You can share your Focus status in the Messages app and let
    others know that your phone is on DND.

    It's not useful if an article doesn't know about your specific question
    but this article says what happens when someone calls you on DND. https://gadgetroyale.com/what-does-do-not-disturb-do/
    Q: What happens when your phone is on Do Not Disturb and someone calls you?
    A: The only thing you as the phone user will experience is that
    the call won't ring out, the call will be muted but it will go through.

    Aw heck, I'll look at the article now. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/style/do-not-disturb-phone-setting.html?unlocked_article_code=1.cU0.EsXn.FqT98zMMXeK7&smid=url-share

    I see it says what you said it said:
    "When the setting is enabled on an iPhone, any would-be texters
    see a disclaimer that the person they are trying to contact has
    notifications silenced. Beneath that is a tempting offer:
    "Notify Anyway." If clicked, the notification will go through
    as it normally would"

    Maybe best to ask the folks on misc.phone.mobile.iphone that question.

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 13 15:28:52 2024
    The New York Times today mentioned that people who call or message an
    iPhone that's on DND get a reply telling them it's on DND, but the
    article (URL below) didn't say anything either way about Androids. I
    don't see anything promising in Settings under Do Not Disturb.

    <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/style/do-not-disturb-phone- setting.html?unlocked_article_code=1.cU0.EsXn.FqT98zMMXeK7&smid=url-
    share>

    The Times has a paywall, but the abopve URL, provided by the Times,
    gets you past it for this article.

    --
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  • From micky@21:1/5 to andrew@spam.net on Wed Mar 13 19:24:59 2024
    In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 13 Mar 2024 23:12:50 -0000 (UTC), Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:

    "Stan Brown wrote on Wed, 13 Mar 2024 15:28:52 -0700 :

    The New York Times today mentioned that people who call or message an
    iPhone that's on DND get a reply telling them it's on DND, but the
    article (URL below) didn't say anything either way about Androids. I

    Seems to me the best way to answer this is put your phone on DND and
    have someone else call you, And vice versa.


    don't see anything promising in Settings under Do Not Disturb.

    <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/style/do-not-disturb-phone-
    setting.html?unlocked_article_code=1.cU0.EsXn.FqT98zMMXeK7&smid=url-
    share>

    The Times has a paywall, but the abopve URL, provided by the Times,
    gets you past it for this article.

    I didn't look at the article as I was curious about the question in the >subject line so I first ran a quick google search to find out the answer. >https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=do+callers+know+android+is+on+do+not+disturb+dnd

    Here's what this hit said about your exact question: >https://techwiser.com/what-happens-when-your-phone-is-on-do-not-disturb/#Will-Others-Be-Able-to-Tell-if-I-Enable-Do-Not-Disturb-on-My-Phone
    Q: Will Others Be Able to Tell if I Enable Do Not Disturb on My Phone
    A: No, others will not be able to tell if your phone is in DND mode.
    When someone calls you, their call will go to voicemail as usual.
    The only time people can tell your phone is on DND is when you
    use it while driving because it sends an automatic message.

    It does? I've gotten calls when I'm driving. At any rare, this just
    means one needs to do 2 self-tests, one when driving and one when
    sitting still.

    Hmmm... to me that's not a "no" but more of a "sometimes yes", right?

    Right.

    This article says you can selectively let others know you're on DND. >https://www.guidingtech.com/why-getting-calls-do-not-disturb-on/
    Q: How to let people know your phone is on DND?
    A: You can share your Focus status in the Messages app and let
    others know that your phone is on DND.

    It's not useful if an article doesn't know about your specific question
    but this article says what happens when someone calls you on DND. >https://gadgetroyale.com/what-does-do-not-disturb-do/
    Q: What happens when your phone is on Do Not Disturb and someone calls you? >A: The only thing you as the phone user will experience is that
    the call won't ring out, the call will be muted but it will go through.

    Aw heck, I'll look at the article now. >https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/style/do-not-disturb-phone-setting.html?unlocked_article_code=1.cU0.EsXn.FqT98zMMXeK7&smid=url-share

    I see it says what you said it said:
    "When the setting is enabled on an iPhone, any would-be texters
    see a disclaimer that the person they are trying to contact has
    notifications silenced. Beneath that is a tempting offer:
    "Notify Anyway." If clicked, the notification will go through
    as it normally would"

    Maybe best to ask the folks on misc.phone.mobile.iphone that question.

    Ask someone with an iphone to test it personally.

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  • From AJL@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Wed Mar 13 16:38:19 2024
    On 3/13/2024 3:28 PM, Stan Brown wrote:
    The New York Times today mentioned that people who call or message an
    iPhone that's on DND get a reply telling them it's on DND, but the
    article (URL below) didn't say anything either way about Androids. I
    don't see anything promising in Settings under Do Not Disturb.

    I use DND and that only lets my kids through on my Android Samsung
    Galaxy S10+. Everything else goes to Voicemail. There's no way for the
    caller to know if I'm using DND or just not answering...

    <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/style/do-not-disturb-phone- setting.html?unlocked_article_code=1.cU0.EsXn.FqT98zMMXeK7&smid=url-
    share>

    The Times has a paywall, but the abopve URL, provided by the Times,
    gets you past it for this article.


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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to micky on Thu Mar 14 01:25:14 2024
    On 14.03.24 00:24, micky wrote:
    In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 13 Mar 2024 23:12:50 -0000 (UTC), Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
    I see it says what you said it said:
    "When the setting is enabled on an iPhone, any would-be texters
    see a disclaimer that the person they are trying to contact has
    notifications silenced. Beneath that is a tempting offer:
    "Notify Anyway." If clicked, the notification will go through
    as it normally would"

    Maybe best to ask the folks on misc.phone.mobile.iphone that question.

    Ask someone with an iphone to test it personally.

    Works only iOS to iOS (iMessage) AFAIK.

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Wed Mar 13 19:18:35 2024
    Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    The New York Times today mentioned that people who call or message an
    iPhone that's on DND get a reply telling them it's on DND, but the
    article (URL below) didn't say anything either way about Androids. I
    don't see anything promising in Settings under Do Not Disturb.

    <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/style/do-not-disturb-phone- setting.html?unlocked_article_code=1.cU0.EsXn.FqT98zMMXeK7&smid=url-
    share>

    The Times has a paywall, but the abopve URL, provided by the Times,
    gets you past it for this article.

    "When the setting is enabled on an iPhone, any would-be texters see a disclaimer that the person they are trying to contact has notifications silenced. Beneath that is a tempting offer: ´Notify Anyway.ˇ If clicked,
    the notification will go through as it normally would, but the message
    seems clear enough: Don˙t expect an answer, at least not right away."

    Well, that's Apple doing it there way, not yours. The phone would have
    to send yet another text back to the sender. Not everyone has unlimited quotas, but Apple doesn't care. On my Android 8, and in DND mode,
    callers go to my carrier's voicemail service, the same as if I don't
    answer their call. The caller hears ringing, and then gets dumped into voicemail whether DND is on or not. DND just mutes the noise for the
    call. Text just sit there waiting for when I chhose to view them, but
    they don't make any noise on arrival. My phone still get the texts, but
    my phone doesn't make noise on notification.

    Would be easy to test how DND works on your phone. Enable DND on your
    phone, and call yourself from a different phone number, and text your smartphone. See what happens instead of others telling you how their
    phone works in DND mode.

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Wed Mar 13 21:44:18 2024
    On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 15:28:52 -0700, Stan Brown wrote:

    The New York Times today mentioned that people who call or message an
    iPhone that's on DND get a reply telling them it's on DND, but the
    article (URL below) didn't say anything either way about Androids. I
    don't see anything promising in Settings under Do Not Disturb.

    <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/style/do-not-disturb-phone- setting.html?unlocked_article_code=1.cU0.EsXn.FqT98zMMXeK7&smid=url-
    share>

    The Times has a paywall, but the above URL, provided by the Times,
    gets you past it for this article.

    Thanks for the responses. Looks like a caller can't tell whether my
    Android phone is on DND or just not answering. Presumably DND shifts
    them to voicemail without delay, so that might give them a clue,
    though they'd experience the same thing if I was prompt about tapping
    Reject.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 14 07:57:51 2024
    Am 14.03.24 um 05:44 schrieb Stan Brown:
    On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 15:28:52 -0700, Stan Brown wrote:

    The New York Times today mentioned that people who call or message an
    iPhone that's on DND get a reply telling them it's on DND, but the
    article (URL below) didn't say anything either way about Androids. I
    don't see anything promising in Settings under Do Not Disturb.

    <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/style/do-not-disturb-phone-
    setting.html?unlocked_article_code=1.cU0.EsXn.FqT98zMMXeK7&smid=url-
    share>

    The Times has a paywall, but the above URL, provided by the Times,
    gets you past it for this article.

    Thanks for the responses. Looks like a caller can't tell whether my
    Android phone is on DND or just not answering. Presumably DND shifts
    them to voicemail without delay, so that might give them a clue,
    though they'd experience the same thing if I was prompt about tapping
    Reject.

    That is correct. But you can silence your Android by putting it face
    down on the table. Ideal for company or private meetings. As soon as you
    pick it up it rings again on incoming calls and notifications.

    --
    "Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Thu Mar 14 23:15:24 2024
    Stan Brown wrote on Wed, 13 Mar 2024 21:44:18 -0700 :

    Presumably DND shifts
    them to voicemail without delay, so that might give them a clue

    Are you sure about that?

    I don't know anything about DND except what I looked up for you prior, but
    from what I read, it acts "as if it was ringing" and only after it stopped ringing, does it go to voice mail (if that's how you set it up to do).

    If that's the case, the only thing is you never hear (or see?) the rings.

    But from the caller's perspective, it's as if it rang the requisite five or
    six times (or whatever) and you weren't able to answer it in that time.

    At least that's the gist of what I gleaned from the references I cited.

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