• both at the same time?

    From Nick Cine@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 2 19:26:42 2024
    Can you run both a private dns and a vpn-based ad blocker on non-rooted
    Android at the same time?

    I can't.

    But I don't know how either of them works.
    So I don't know if it's even possible.

    Can you run both at the same time?

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  • From Joerg Walther@21:1/5 to Nick Cine on Sun Mar 3 09:56:27 2024
    Nick Cine wrote:

    Can you run both a private dns and a vpn-based ad blocker on non-rooted >Android at the same time?

    This is not possible, the moment you switch on the vpn you use the dns
    set up with the computer the vpn is running on, so you have no choice in
    dns when using a vpn.

    -jw-

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  • From Anssi Saari@21:1/5 to Joerg Walther on Mon Mar 4 13:38:34 2024
    Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> writes:

    Nick Cine wrote:

    Can you run both a private dns and a vpn-based ad blocker on non-rooted >>Android at the same time?

    This is not possible, the moment you switch on the vpn you use the dns
    set up with the computer the vpn is running on, so you have no choice in
    dns when using a vpn.

    I thought so too but I use a VPN (Freedome) and with private DNS set to
    an ad blocking one, I still get ads removed from apps. And Freedome
    doesn't filter ads, although they claim to filter trackers but it's a
    little hard to verify that.

    So a VPN based ad blocker and private DNS might well work together.

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  • From Harry S Robins@21:1/5 to Anssi Saari on Thu Mar 7 01:33:29 2024
    On Mon, 04 Mar 2024 13:38:34 +0200, Anssi Saari wrote:

    Can you run both a private dns and a vpn-based ad blocker on non-rooted >>>Android at the same time?

    This is not possible, the moment you switch on the vpn you use the dns
    set up with the computer the vpn is running on, so you have no choice in
    dns when using a vpn.

    I thought so too but I use a VPN (Freedome) and with private DNS set to
    an ad blocking one, I still get ads removed from apps. And Freedome
    doesn't filter ads, although they claim to filter trackers but it's a
    little hard to verify that.

    So a VPN based ad blocker and private DNS might well work together.

    I had not heard of Freedome by F-Secure so I looked it up first.
    https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/f-secure-freedome-vpn
    It's apparently a VPN first and foremost, but it will do ad blocking
    and/or tracker blocking - but they don't say much about the ad blocking.

    Here they don't say anything about the ad blocking. Just trackers blocked. https://www.pcworld.com/article/402457/f-secure-freedome-vpn-review.html

    They seem to restrict their VPN to using only their app, which is rare. https://www.techradar.com/reviews/f-secure-freedome-vpn
    "Although Freedome uses OpenVPN underneath, it doesn't support manually setting up the service with routers or other devices. You must use the
    official apps."

    When you use the Freedome app, does it show up in the Android settings for
    a VPN (Settings > Connections > More connections > VPN > Freedome)?

    That techradar article didn't discuss ad blocking. Just tracker blocking.
    "The only significant bonus feature is tracker blocking"

    What's the difference between and ad blocker & a tracker blocker?

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  • From Joerg Walther@21:1/5 to Harry S Robins on Thu Mar 7 14:27:41 2024
    Harry S Robins wrote:

    They seem to restrict their VPN to using only their app, which is rare.

    This is not really rare when it comes to certain VPN apps.
    Starting with Android 9 you can also use your custom DNS, so using dns.adguard.com could be an option, I use it on my mobile phone when I
    am not connected to my home wifi and it works quite well.

    -jw-

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  • From Anssi Saari@21:1/5 to Joerg Walther on Fri Mar 8 11:20:53 2024
    Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> writes:

    Starting with Android 9 you can also use your custom DNS, so using dns.adguard.com could be an option, I use it on my mobile phone when I
    am not connected to my home wifi and it works quite well.

    Why not use it at home as well? Isn't it a little tedious to toggle this
    off and on all the time?

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  • From Joerg Walther@21:1/5 to Anssi Saari on Fri Mar 8 14:35:48 2024
    Anssi Saari wrote:

    Starting with Android 9 you can also use your custom DNS, so using
    dns.adguard.com could be an option, I use it on my mobile phone when I
    am not connected to my home wifi and it works quite well.

    Why not use it at home as well? Isn't it a little tedious to toggle this
    off and on all the time?

    There is nothing to toggle, you set the DNS for Wifi separately from the
    DNS of the mobile network. And at home I use AdGuard on a Raspberry Pi
    as my DNS because it is configurable and there are a couple of
    additional things that I want to block, namely all products related with Facebook, TikTok and a few others.

    -jw-

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  • From Anssi Saari@21:1/5 to Joerg Walther on Mon Mar 11 13:50:18 2024
    Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> writes:

    Anssi Saari wrote:

    Starting with Android 9 you can also use your custom DNS, so using
    dns.adguard.com could be an option, I use it on my mobile phone when I
    am not connected to my home wifi and it works quite well.

    Why not use it at home as well? Isn't it a little tedious to toggle this >>off and on all the time?

    There is nothing to toggle, you set the DNS for Wifi separately from the
    DNS of the mobile network. And at home I use AdGuard on a Raspberry Pi
    as my DNS because it is configurable and there are a couple of
    additional things that I want to block, namely all products related with Facebook, TikTok and a few others.

    OK, I understand now, I thought you meant the global Private DNS
    setting. In fact, it looks like I'll need to do the same, I've found a
    couple of open wifi networks I often use block DNS over TLS (DoT) so the private DNS setting doesn't work on those networks and in fact, I have
    no connectivity.

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