• custom emojis

    From Oscar Mayer@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 2 20:59:11 2024
    I don't ever use emojis - so I know nothing about them
    For example, can you make your own emojis?

    But my wife uses emojis all the time
    But she's limited by whatever the default is.

    She asked me to see if I could get her new emojis
    (like those the kids have on their iPhones).

    Can you make your own emojis like you can your app icons?
    If so, how do you add emojis to your SMS/MMS messaging app?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ralph Fox@21:1/5 to Oscar Mayer on Sun Mar 3 18:56:32 2024
    On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 20:59:11 -0500, Oscar Mayer wrote:

    I don't ever use emojis - so I know nothing about them
    For example, can you make your own emojis?

    But my wife uses emojis all the time
    But she's limited by whatever the default is.

    She asked me to see if I could get her new emojis
    (like those the kids have on their iPhones).

    Can you make your own emojis like you can your app icons?
    If so, how do you add emojis to your SMS/MMS messaging app?


    SMS

    SMS is text characters only. In SMS, emojis are characters in a font.
    On Android that font might be Google's Noto Color Emoji font*, but it
    could depend on her phone.
    * <https://fonts.google.com/noto/specimen/Noto+Color+Emoji>

    Even if you change the emoji font on her phone, she is the only one
    who will see it. Other people will see only whatever is in the emoji
    font on their own phones.


    MMS

    MMS can have both text characters and images. If she wants other
    people to see her "special" emojis, they must be sent as images not
    as text characters. Get (or make) a bunch of emoji images (sometimes
    called "emoji stickers") and load them onto her phone. Add them as
    images to the MMS (not as emoji text characters in the keyboard emoji
    picker).


    --
    Kind regards
    Ralph Fox
    🦊

    It's a bad cloth indeed will take no colour.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Stefan Ram@21:1/5 to Oscar Mayer on Sun Mar 3 07:11:42 2024
    Oscar Mayer <nobody@oscarmayer.com> wrote or quoted:
    Can you make your own emojis like you can your app icons?

    In fact, a participant of another newsgroup I read, boasted
    that his daughter wrote a kind of submission to some Unicode
    entity and got her emojis into Unicode.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From micky@21:1/5 to nobody@oscarmayer.com on Sun Mar 3 01:47:09 2024
    In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 2 Mar 2024 20:59:11 -0500, Oscar Mayer <nobody@oscarmayer.com> wrote:

    I don't ever use emojis - so I know nothing about them
    For example, can you make your own emojis?

    But my wife uses emojis all the time
    But she's limited by whatever the default is.

    She asked me to see if I could get her new emojis
    (like those the kids have on their iPhones).

    Can you make your own emojis like you can your app icons?
    If so, how do you add emojis to your SMS/MMS messaging app?

    Victor Frankenstein used to make his own emojis but it didn't turn out
    well.

    The same problems may befall you. I warn you not to mess with creation.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Stefan Ram@21:1/5 to Oscar Mayer on Sun Mar 3 07:38:46 2024
    Oscar Mayer <nobody@oscarmayer.com> wrote or quoted:
    If so, how do you add emojis to your SMS/MMS messaging app?

    In fact, one can just combine ASCII characters to
    create smileys like ":-)", but also ";->" or ":=]" ...

    If SMS/MMS supports embedding SVG or other image types,
    it might be possible to use this to transfer custom emojis,
    but it might be more complicated than to just press a key.

    ...
    .-:+$XHH+
    =+$H@@@@H$:
    :$H@@@H%:-.
    ,%@@@H%:.
    ,$@H@$=
    +@@H;.
    .=:-
    .=//;;- .,:;+%%%;.
    ;$%+%H@@X; -;%X@@@MMM@$,
    +X, ,$@@@/ -/X@@@@@@HX+:-.
    -H$- ,/H@H@H, :$@@@@HH@X;,
    =@@HX$H@@@@@H- -$@@HHHHHHHHX%+;-
    %M@@@@HHH@@% -HM@@@@@@@@@@MMM@@$:
    .+H@@@@@@H/. .;%%+;:::::/+%$H@@@@X-
    -;+%%+;- ,=/$X$-
    .



    .. ..
    -$HX$%/;:-,,. ..,-::/+%XH$:
    ;@@@@@@@@@@HXXX$$$$$$$$$$$XXXH@@@@@@@@@@%
    ;H@@HHHH@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@HHHHHHHX;.
    ,/X@@@@HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH@@@@@X/,
    .=+X@@@@@@@HHHHHHHHHHH@@@@@@H$+:.
    .-;+$XH@@@@@@@@@@@@@HX%+:-.
    .,-=::/+++/;:=-,.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Arno Welzel@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 3 15:31:05 2024
    Stefan Ram, 2024-03-03 08:11:

    Oscar Mayer <nobody@oscarmayer.com> wrote or quoted:
    Can you make your own emojis like you can your app icons?

    In fact, a participant of another newsgroup I read, boasted
    that his daughter wrote a kind of submission to some Unicode
    entity and got her emojis into Unicode.

    Yes, but this takes quite long. First the Unicode entity has to accept
    the submission, then a design has to be created and to all existing
    fonts and finally all devices have to get this as an update to support
    it. So it will take at least 6-12 months before a new emoji will be
    usable on many devices.

    --
    Arno Welzel
    https://arnowelzel.de

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Arno Welzel@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 3 15:29:12 2024
    Oscar Mayer, 2024-03-03 02:59:

    I don't ever use emojis - so I know nothing about them
    For example, can you make your own emojis?

    It depends in what app you use.

    But my wife uses emojis all the time
    But she's limited by whatever the default is.

    Emojis are nowadays just special characters and part of the Unicode
    standard, also see here:

    <https://unicode.org/emoji/charts/full-emoji-list.html>

    So if an app just sends messages as text, then the available Emojis are
    limited to what is available in the device.

    She asked me to see if I could get her new emojis
    (like those the kids have on their iPhones).

    When the kids use iMessage it is very likely, that these are "stickers"
    and no emojis.

    Can you make your own emojis like you can your app icons?
    If so, how do you add emojis to your SMS/MMS messaging app?

    For SMS - no, see above. For MMS it may be possible, depending on what
    app you use (no, I don't know, which MMS apps support "stickers" and
    other custom emoji like things).

    --
    Arno Welzel
    https://arnowelzel.de

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Arno Welzel@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 3 15:33:47 2024
    Stefan Ram, 2024-03-03 08:38:

    Oscar Mayer <nobody@oscarmayer.com> wrote or quoted:
    If so, how do you add emojis to your SMS/MMS messaging app?

    In fact, one can just combine ASCII characters to
    create smileys like ":-)", but also ";->" or ":=]" ...

    If SMS/MMS supports embedding SVG or other image types,

    SMS is text only and MMS only embeds images but I don't know if SVG is a supported format. Most likely only bitmaps formats are supported since
    MMS is way older than the general support for SVG in browsers.


    --
    Arno Welzel
    https://arnowelzel.de

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Oscar Mayer@21:1/5 to Arno Welzel on Mon Mar 4 01:15:55 2024
    On Sun, 3 Mar 2024 15:29:12 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote:

    She asked me to see if I could get her new emojis
    (like those the kids have on their iPhones).

    When the kids use iMessage it is very likely, that these are "stickers"
    and no emojis.

    What's the difference between a sticker and an emoji (or memoji)?

    Looking that up https://www.google.com/search?q=what%27s+the+difference+between+an+emoji+%26+a+sticker

    This says stickers are the same thing as emojis other than saying
    "Emoji tend to be static, while stickers can be animated." https://najit.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Recommendations-Concerning-Digital-Communication-Using-Emoji-in-Legal-and-Medical-Interpreting-1.2022.pdf

    This may have a more technical answer to the question. https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/100496/stickers-versus-emojis-what-is-the-difference
    Which says emojis are part of a standard, while stickers are not.

    Seems to me they're essentially the same thing but
    I started this conversation saying I don't know anything about them.

    All I want to know is how to make custom "teeny tiny images" for my
    wife to include into her MMS messaging app to indicate her emotions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Arno Welzel@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 4 10:56:18 2024
    Oscar Mayer, 2024-03-04 07:15:

    On Sun, 3 Mar 2024 15:29:12 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote:

    She asked me to see if I could get her new emojis
    (like those the kids have on their iPhones).

    When the kids use iMessage it is very likely, that these are "stickers"
    and no emojis.

    What's the difference between a sticker and an emoji (or memoji)?

    A sticker is just some image you can add - any image.

    Emojis however are usually part of a *text* you write, like this:

    "I am happy :-)"

    So the text ":-)" is the emoji here and if your newsreader supports
    UTF-8, you may also add this as character - still no image, just a
    special character which will be rendered as smiley:

    "I am happy 😊"


    This says stickers are the same thing as emojis other than saying
    "Emoji tend to be static, while stickers can be animated."

    Yes, this is also a difference, since stickers can also be GIF images
    which can be animated. This is not the case for *characters* which are
    always static.


    --
    Arno Welzel
    https://arnowelzel.de

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)