So, my 85-yo friend's phone is just about completely set up, but i
noticed how hard it is to push the on/off button with the case on, but
not with the case off.
But she has dropped it so I don't think it's good to be without a case.
She too acknowledged that it's hard to turn on etc. So I want to buy a
new one.
In shopping for a new case, are there buzz words that mean the buttons
are still easy to push? This whole phone is not very old so I don't
think the problem is that the case is old and stiff. All the cases make
it harder to push IME, but do any have a way of saying they don't make
it much harder? Keywords?
On 2/25/24 5:02 PM, micky wrote:
So, my 85-yo friend's phone is just about completely set up, but i
noticed how hard it is to push the on/off button with the case on, but
not with the case off.
But she has dropped it so I don't think it's good to be without a case.
She too acknowledged that it's hard to turn on etc.  So I want to buy a >> new one.
In shopping for a new case, are there buzz words that mean the buttons
are still easy to push?   This whole phone is not very old so I don't
think the problem is that the case is old and stiff. All the cases make
it harder to push IME, but do any have a way of saying they don't make
it much harder? Keywords?
I don't have to ever push the on/off (sleep) button on my phone.
On 2024-02-26 01:16, AJL wrote:
On 2/25/24 5:02 PM, micky wrote:
So, my 85-yo friend's phone is just about completely set up, but i
noticed how hard it is to push the on/off button with the case on, but
not with the case off.
But she has dropped it so I don't think it's good to be without a case.
She too acknowledged that it's hard to turn on etc.  So I want to buy a >>> new one.
In shopping for a new case, are there buzz words that mean the buttons
are still easy to push?   This whole phone is not very old so I don't >>> think the problem is that the case is old and stiff. All the cases make
it harder to push IME, but do any have a way of saying they don't make
it much harder? Keywords?
You have to try them at the shop.
I don't have to ever push the on/off (sleep) button on my phone.
I do, very often. The power on button is also the "home" button, and the >fingerprint sensor.
This depends on the particular phone.
On 2/25/24 6:55 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-02-26 01:16, AJL wrote:
On 2/25/24 5:02 PM, micky wrote:
So, my 85-yo friend's phone is just about completely set up, but i
noticed how hard it is to push the on/off button with the case on, but >>>> not with the case off.
But she has dropped it so I don't think it's good to be without a case. >>>> She too acknowledged that it's hard to turn on etc. So I want to buy a >>>> new one.
In shopping for a new case, are there buzz words that mean the buttons >>>> are still easy to push? This whole phone is not very old so I don't >>>> think the problem is that the case is old and stiff. All the cases make >>>> it harder to push IME, but do any have a way of saying they don't make >>>> it much harder? Keywords?
You have to try them at the shop.
I don't have to ever push the on/off (sleep) button on my phone.
I do, very often. The power on button is also the "home" button, and the >>fingerprint sensor.
This depends on the particular phone.
Of course Carlos (duh?). That's why I suggested (in the part you snipped)
that micky check the settings to see if his phone might have a similar feature as mine.
And micky, another thing you you might try if you get a cheap case. Using a
pair of scissors you could cut the around the power button to make more finger room without hurting the drop protection. I've done that with some
of mine to make more room around the headphone hole and USB-C jack...
AJLnoemail@none.com wrote:
And micky, another thing you you might try if you get a cheap case. Using a >> pair of scissors you could cut the around the power button to make more
finger room without hurting the drop protection. I've done that with some
of mine to make more room around the headphone hole and USB-C jack...
That's a very good idea, and I don't have to buy a cheap one. I can use
the one she has.
I wonder if I would have thought if this if it were my own phone and not >hers. Hope so.
So, my 85-yo friend's phone is just about completely set up, but i
noticed how hard it is to push the on/off button with the case on, but
not with the case off.
On 2/25/24 6:55 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-02-26 01:16, AJL wrote:
On 2/25/24 5:02 PM, micky wrote:
So, my 85-yo friend's phone is just about completely set up, but i
noticed how hard it is to push the on/off button with the case on, but >>>> not with the case off.
But she has dropped it so I don't think it's good to be without a case. >>>> She too acknowledged that it's hard to turn on etc.  So I want to
buy a
new one.
In shopping for a new case, are there buzz words that mean the buttons >>>> are still easy to push?   This whole phone is not very old so I don't >>>> think the problem is that the case is old and stiff. All the cases make >>>> it harder to push IME, but do any have a way of saying they don't make >>>> it much harder? Keywords?
You have to try them at the shop.
I don't have to ever push the on/off (sleep) button on my phone.
I do, very often. The power on button is also the "home" button, and
the fingerprint sensor.
This depends on the particular phone.
Of course Carlos (duh?). That's why I suggested (in the part you snipped) that micky check the settings to see if his phone might have a similar feature as mine.
And micky, another thing you you might try if you get a cheap case. Using a pair of scissors you could cut the around the power button to make more finger room without hurting the drop protection. I've done that with some
of mine to make more room around the headphone hole and USB-C jack...
On 2024-02-26 03:26, AJL wrote:
On 2/25/24 6:55 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-02-26 01:16, AJL wrote:
On 2/25/24 5:02 PM, micky wrote:
So, my 85-yo friend's phone is just about completely set up, but i
noticed how hard it is to push the on/off button with the case on, but >>>>> not with the case off.
But she has dropped it so I don't think it's good to be without a case. >>>>> She too acknowledged that it's hard to turn on etc.  So I want to >>>>> buy a
new one.
In shopping for a new case, are there buzz words that mean the buttons >>>>> are still easy to push?   This whole phone is not very old so I don't >>>>> think the problem is that the case is old and stiff. All the cases make >>>>> it harder to push IME, but do any have a way of saying they don't make >>>>> it much harder? Keywords?
You have to try them at the shop.
I don't have to ever push the on/off (sleep) button on my phone.
I do, very often. The power on button is also the "home" button, and
the fingerprint sensor.
This depends on the particular phone.
Of course Carlos (duh?). That's why I suggested (in the part you snipped)
that micky check the settings to see if his phone might have a similar
feature as mine.
In my case, I certainly can set up as you say, but that doesn't help me
at all:
the fingerprint sensor is in the power up button. And the power
up button doubles as the home button. Two functions that I actually need
a lot and can not be replaced by tapping on the screen.
So, if the case
makes hard to press the power button,
there are two solution:
* push harder
* replace the folder.
* cut a hole.
In my case, the case allows easy access to the power button.
And micky, another thing you you might try if you get a cheap case. Using a >> pair of scissors you could cut the around the power button to make more
finger room without hurting the drop protection. I've done that with some
of mine to make more room around the headphone hole and USB-C jack...
On 2/26/24 4:51 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-02-26 03:26, AJL wrote:
On 2/25/24 6:55 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-02-26 01:16, AJL wrote:
On 2/25/24 5:02 PM, micky wrote:
So, my 85-yo friend's phone is just about completely set up, but i >>>>>> noticed how hard it is to push the on/off button with the case on, >>>>>> but
not with the case off.
But she has dropped it so I don't think it's good to be without a
case.
She too acknowledged that it's hard to turn on etc.  So I want to >>>>>> buy a
new one.
In shopping for a new case, are there buzz words that mean the
buttons
are still easy to push?   This whole phone is not very old so I >>>>>> don't
think the problem is that the case is old and stiff. All the cases >>>>>> make
it harder to push IME, but do any have a way of saying they don't
make
it much harder? Keywords?
You have to try them at the shop.
I don't have to ever push the on/off (sleep) button on my phone.
I do, very often. The power on button is also the "home" button, and
the fingerprint sensor.
This depends on the particular phone.
Of course Carlos (duh?). That's why I suggested (in the part you
snipped)
that micky check the settings to see if his phone might have a similar
feature as mine.
In my case, I certainly can set up as you say, but that doesn't help
me at all:
My suggestions are about fixing micky's phone, not yours. You need help
too?
On 2024-02-26 16:47, AJL wrote:
On 2/26/24 4:51 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-02-26 03:26, AJL wrote:
On 2/25/24 6:55 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-02-26 01:16, AJL wrote:
On 2/25/24 5:02 PM, micky wrote:
So, my 85-yo friend's phone is just about completely set up, but i >>>>>>> noticed how hard it is to push the on/off button with the case on, >>>>>>> but
not with the case off.
But she has dropped it so I don't think it's good to be without a >>>>>>> case.
She too acknowledged that it's hard to turn on etc.  So I want to >>>>>>> buy a
new one.
In shopping for a new case, are there buzz words that mean the
buttons
are still easy to push?   This whole phone is not very old so I >>>>>>> don't
think the problem is that the case is old and stiff. All the cases >>>>>>> make
it harder to push IME, but do any have a way of saying they don't >>>>>>> make
it much harder? Keywords?
You have to try them at the shop.
I don't have to ever push the on/off (sleep) button on my phone.
I do, very often. The power on button is also the "home" button, and >>>>> the fingerprint sensor.
This depends on the particular phone.
Of course Carlos (duh?). That's why I suggested (in the part you
snipped)
that micky check the settings to see if his phone might have a similar >>>> feature as mine.
In my case, I certainly can set up as you say, but that doesn't help
me at all:
My suggestions are about fixing micky's phone, not yours. You need help
too?
I'm simply saying that you are generalizing too much.
You can not make the broad generalization that the power up button is useless
and that a case that impedes using it is just fine.
On 2/26/24 2:37 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-02-26 16:47, AJL wrote:
On 2/26/24 4:51 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-02-26 03:26, AJL wrote:
On 2/25/24 6:55 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-02-26 01:16, AJL wrote:
On 2/25/24 5:02 PM, micky wrote:
So, my 85-yo friend's phone is just about completely set up, but i >>>>>>>> noticed how hard it is to push the on/off button with the case >>>>>>>> on, but
not with the case off.
But she has dropped it so I don't think it's good to be without >>>>>>>> a case.
She too acknowledged that it's hard to turn on etc.  So I want >>>>>>>> to buy a
new one.
In shopping for a new case, are there buzz words that mean the >>>>>>>> buttons
are still easy to push?   This whole phone is not very old so I >>>>>>>> don't
think the problem is that the case is old and stiff. All the
cases make
it harder to push IME, but do any have a way of saying they
don't make
it much harder? Keywords?
You have to try them at the shop.
I don't have to ever push the on/off (sleep) button on my phone.
I do, very often. The power on button is also the "home" button,
and the fingerprint sensor.
This depends on the particular phone.
Of course Carlos (duh?). That's why I suggested (in the part you
snipped)
that micky check the settings to see if his phone might have a similar >>>>> feature as mine.
In my case, I certainly can set up as you say, but that doesn't help
me at all:
My suggestions are about fixing micky's phone, not yours. You need
help too?
I'm simply saying that you are generalizing too much.
Nope. I was making SPECIFIC suggestions to micky about his particular phone alone. Prove otherwise with a quote. Bet you can't.
On 2024-02-26 23:27, AJL wrote:
On 2/26/24 2:37 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-02-26 16:47, AJL wrote:
On 2/26/24 4:51 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-02-26 03:26, AJL wrote:
On 2/25/24 6:55 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-02-26 01:16, AJL wrote:
On 2/25/24 5:02 PM, micky wrote:
So, my 85-yo friend's phone is just about completely set up, but i >>>>>>>>> noticed how hard it is to push the on/off button with the case >>>>>>>>> on, but
not with the case off.
But she has dropped it so I don't think it's good to be without >>>>>>>>> a case.
She too acknowledged that it's hard to turn on etc. So I want >>>>>>>>> to buy a
new one.
In shopping for a new case, are there buzz words that mean the >>>>>>>>> buttons
are still easy to push? This whole phone is not very old so >>>>>>>>> I don't
think the problem is that the case is old and stiff. All the >>>>>>>>> cases make
it harder to push IME, but do any have a way of saying they
don't make
it much harder? Keywords?
You have to try them at the shop.
I do, very often. The power on button is also the "home" button, >>>>>>> and the fingerprint sensor.
I don't have to ever push the on/off (sleep) button on my phone. >>>>>>>
This depends on the particular phone.
Of course Carlos (duh?). That's why I suggested (in the part you
snipped)
that micky check the settings to see if his phone might have a
similar
feature as mine.
In my case, I certainly can set up as you say, but that doesn't
help me at all:
My suggestions are about fixing micky's phone, not yours. You need
help too?
I'm simply saying that you are generalizing too much.
Nope. I was making SPECIFIC suggestions to micky about his particular
phone alone. Prove otherwise with a quote. Bet you can't.
How do you know his specific phone? He didn't say which it is.
Quote: "I don't have to ever push the on/off (sleep) button on my phone.
I have it set for 2 taps on the screen turn it on or off. Or it can be
set for a fingerprint on the screen to turn it on. (Same with this
tablet BTW.) Check the settings on her phone and maybe it has a similiar feature..."
That's about your phone, not his.
Not reading the rest.
On 2/26/24 4:51 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-02-26 03:26, AJL wrote:
On 2/25/24 6:55 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-02-26 01:16, AJL wrote:
On 2/25/24 5:02 PM, micky wrote:
So, my 85-yo friend's phone is just about completely set up, but i >>>>>> noticed how hard it is to push the on/off button with the case on, but >>>>>> not with the case off.
But she has dropped it so I don't think it's good to be without a case. >>>>>> She too acknowledged that it's hard to turn on etc. So I want to >>>>>> buy a
new one.
In shopping for a new case, are there buzz words that mean the buttons >>>>>> are still easy to push? This whole phone is not very old so I don't >>>>>> think the problem is that the case is old and stiff. All the cases make >>>>>> it harder to push IME, but do any have a way of saying they don't make >>>>>> it much harder? Keywords?
You have to try them at the shop.
I don't have to ever push the on/off (sleep) button on my phone.
I do, very often. The power on button is also the "home" button, and
the fingerprint sensor.
This depends on the particular phone.
Of course Carlos (duh?). That's why I suggested (in the part you snipped) >>> that micky check the settings to see if his phone might have a similar
feature as mine.
In my case, I certainly can set up as you say, but that doesn't help me
at all:
My suggestions are about fixing micky's phone, not yours. You need help too?
the fingerprint sensor is in the power up button. And the power
up button doubles as the home button. Two functions that I actually need
a lot and can not be replaced by tapping on the screen.
So how does this help micky?
So, if the case
makes hard to press the power button,
there are two solution:
I count 3 of your solutions:
* push harder
* replace the folder.
* cut a hole.
Gosh Carlos, I worked hard on that paragraph below about cutting a hole. At
least you could have read it. I assume that is the case since you make the same suggestion anew.
In my case, the case allows easy access to the power button.
Lucky you. Hear that micky. Think he's trying to make you feel bad... :-/
On 2/26/2024 4:42 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-02-26 23:27, AJL wrote:
On 2/26/24 2:37 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-02-26 16:47, AJL wrote:
On 2/26/24 4:51 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-02-26 03:26, AJL wrote:
On 2/25/24 6:55 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-02-26 01:16, AJL wrote:
On 2/25/24 5:02 PM, micky wrote:
So, my 85-yo friend's phone is just about completely set up, >>>>>>>>>> but i
noticed how hard it is to push the on/off button with the case >>>>>>>>>> on, but
not with the case off.
But she has dropped it so I don't think it's good to be without >>>>>>>>>> a case.
She too acknowledged that it's hard to turn on etc.  So I want >>>>>>>>>> to buy a
new one.
In shopping for a new case, are there buzz words that mean the >>>>>>>>>> buttons
are still easy to push?   This whole phone is not very old so >>>>>>>>>> I don't
think the problem is that the case is old and stiff. All the >>>>>>>>>> cases make
it harder to push IME, but do any have a way of saying they >>>>>>>>>> don't make
it much harder? Keywords?
You have to try them at the shop.
I do, very often. The power on button is also the "home" button, >>>>>>>> and the fingerprint sensor.
I don't have to ever push the on/off (sleep) button on my phone. >>>>>>>>
This depends on the particular phone.
Of course Carlos (duh?). That's why I suggested (in the part you >>>>>>> snipped)
that micky check the settings to see if his phone might have a
similar
feature as mine.
In my case, I certainly can set up as you say, but that doesn't
help me at all:
My suggestions are about fixing micky's phone, not yours. You need
help too?
I'm simply saying that you are generalizing too much.
Nope. I was making SPECIFIC suggestions to micky about his particular
phone alone. Prove otherwise with a quote. Bet you can't.
How do you know his specific phone? He didn't say which it is.
Course he did. He said it belongs to his 85 year old friend. Since micky
was working on it for her and thus in control of it I referred to it as
his phone. (The quote is above.)
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 26 Feb 2024 15:47:05 -0000 (UTC), AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
On 2/26/24 4:51 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-02-26 03:26, AJL wrote:
On 2/25/24 6:55 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-02-26 01:16, AJL wrote:
On 2/25/24 5:02 PM, micky wrote:
So, my 85-yo friend's phone is just about completely set up, but i >>>>>>> noticed how hard it is to push the on/off button with the case on, but >>>>>>> not with the case off.
But she has dropped it so I don't think it's good to be without a case. >>>>>>> She too acknowledged that it's hard to turn on etc.  So I want to >>>>>>> buy a
new one.
In shopping for a new case, are there buzz words that mean the buttons >>>>>>> are still easy to push?   This whole phone is not very old so I don't
think the problem is that the case is old and stiff. All the cases make >>>>>>> it harder to push IME, but do any have a way of saying they don't make >>>>>>> it much harder? Keywords?
You have to try them at the shop.
I don't have to ever push the on/off (sleep) button on my phone.
I do, very often. The power on button is also the "home" button, and >>>>> the fingerprint sensor.
This depends on the particular phone.
Of course Carlos (duh?). That's why I suggested (in the part you snipped) >>>> that micky check the settings to see if his phone might have a similar >>>> feature as mine.
In my case, I certainly can set up as you say, but that doesn't help me
at all:
My suggestions are about fixing micky's phone, not yours. You need help too? >>
the fingerprint sensor is in the power up button. And the power
up button doubles as the home button. Two functions that I actually need >>> a lot and can not be replaced by tapping on the screen.
So how does this help micky?
I found it interesting. If only that it points out things to look for
or avoid in the next phone.
Actually, I can tap or press the power button in my phone, attached to
the case, just fine, because the case has been designed properly.
Your problem is simply that you have to test the case on the shop.
Find
out the brand of the case that doesn't work properly, and don't buy that
one again.
On 2/26/2024 4:42 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-02-26 23:27, AJL wrote:
On 2/26/24 2:37 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-02-26 16:47, AJL wrote:
On 2/26/24 4:51 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-02-26 03:26, AJL wrote:
On 2/25/24 6:55 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-02-26 01:16, AJL wrote:
On 2/25/24 5:02 PM, micky wrote:
So, my 85-yo friend's phone is just about completely set up, but i >>>>>>>>>> noticed how hard it is to push the on/off button with the case >>>>>>>>>> on, but
not with the case off.
But she has dropped it so I don't think it's good to be without >>>>>>>>>> a case.
She too acknowledged that it's hard to turn on etc. So I want >>>>>>>>>> to buy a
new one.
In shopping for a new case, are there buzz words that mean the >>>>>>>>>> buttons
are still easy to push? This whole phone is not very old so >>>>>>>>>> I don't
think the problem is that the case is old and stiff. All the >>>>>>>>>> cases make
it harder to push IME, but do any have a way of saying they >>>>>>>>>> don't make
it much harder? Keywords?
You have to try them at the shop.
I do, very often. The power on button is also the "home" button, >>>>>>>> and the fingerprint sensor.
I don't have to ever push the on/off (sleep) button on my phone. >>>>>>>>
This depends on the particular phone.
Of course Carlos (duh?). That's why I suggested (in the part you >>>>>>> snipped)
that micky check the settings to see if his phone might have a
similar
feature as mine.
In my case, I certainly can set up as you say, but that doesn't
help me at all:
My suggestions are about fixing micky's phone, not yours. You need
help too?
I'm simply saying that you are generalizing too much.
Nope. I was making SPECIFIC suggestions to micky about his particular
phone alone. Prove otherwise with a quote. Bet you can't.
How do you know his specific phone? He didn't say which it is.
Course he did. He said it belongs to his 85 year old friend. Since
micky was working on it for her and thus in control of it I referred
to it as his phone. (The quote is above.)
Ha!
Model, Brand?
Ignoring the rest.
So, my 85-yo friend's phone is just about completely set up, but i
noticed how hard it is to push the on/off button with the case on, but
not with the case off.
But she has dropped it so I don't think it's good to be without a case.
She too acknowledged that it's hard to turn on etc. So I want to buy a
new one.
In shopping for a new case, are there buzz words that mean the buttons
are still easy to push? This whole phone is not very old so I don't
think the problem is that the case is old and stiff. All the cases make
it harder to push IME, but do any have a way of saying they don't make
it much harder? Keywords?
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