https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.freeware
Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
An updated web-searchable no-login web-search archive that reports a unique URL will need to be located that allows people to search before they post
to the a.c.f. newsgroup and which allows unique references to recent posts.
Indira <indira@ghandi.net> wrote:
(also multi-posted to other newsgroups)
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.freeware
Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Yay! This was known to occur a couple months ago.
An updated web-searchable no-login web-search archive that reports a unique URL will need to be located that allows people to search before they post to the a.c.f. newsgroup and which allows unique references to recent posts.
Nope, not needed. One, use the search in your own NNTP client. How
much you can search depends on the retention of your NNTP client. Two,
modus operandi is no one bothers to search any newsgroup before posting.
I really miss old DejaNews before Google took over.
Ant wrote:
I really miss old DejaNews before Google took over.
+1.
The people who never searched before posting will say the loss of the dejanews (which Google took over) search engine (which was available to everyone, and which only searched Usenet and which cost zero dollars and which allowed the user to read the entire thread - not just one post - and which allowed users to reference the post, etc) is no big deal.
But those people who say that are always exactly the people who never searched before they posted anyway. So they never needed a Usenet search.
Many people thought that search was impossible.
There is rarely something new that is posted to any newsgroup.
Which is why it's normal for a person to search before posting.
Carlos E.R. wrote:
Many people thought that search was impossible.
There is rarely something new that is posted to any newsgroup.
Which is why it's normal for a person to search before posting.
And yet, the people who never search will likely still never search.
The only difference is they now have a better excuse for being lazy.
There are some searches still possible but none as good as dejanews. https://usenetarchives.com/
For Android, there's David Cavion's narkive for example, but ever since he got a full-time job, he hasn't had any time to make it work like it should. https://comp.mobile.android.narkive.com/
There is rarely something new that is posted to any newsgroup.
Which is why it's normal for a person to search before posting.
There were times when I searched and found a similar question from
someone else, and found that it was *me* who had answered it!
It took me a long time to learn that there were other possibilities for searching.
I find this search engine confusing, but what do you think of it? https://archive.org/details/usenethistorical
Carlos E.R. wrote:
It took me a long time to learn that there were other possibilities
for searching.
That's why we're all here helping each other learn about the world. :->
Here are, for example, some Message-ID search engines (of course, once
you have the Message-ID, you already have more than usual). http://al.howardknight.net/
http://news.chmurka.net/mid.php
http://usenet.ovh/index.php?article=ual
Do you know of any other Usenet Message-ID search engines?
Do you know of any other Usenet Message-ID search engines?
Not really. I used google the last times I did a search.
On 2024-02-24 02:51, Indira wrote:
Do you know of any other Usenet Message-ID search engines?
Not really. I used google the last times I did a search.
Carlos E.R. wrote:
Do you know of any other Usenet Message-ID search engines?
Not really. I used google the last times I did a search.
Everyone (who searched before they posted) has been using Google since
about two decades or so ago (which cuts down on the number of repeat questions especially since there are already too many repeat questions). https://www.wired.com/2001/02/google-buys-deja-archive/
A lot of people don't understand the real problem here.
The real problem with the google spam (which went from 30K spams per day to fewer than 900 spams per day since Feb 22nd according to the Usenet peering admins) wasn't the spam itself (since that could be filtered and Google
could be depeered) but that the search engine was being hammered with nonsensical results, and is now no longer being updated with new posts.
That's the crime here.
The loss of a search engine we've been using for more than two decades.
Moving forward, there are efforts underway to create new search engines.
Some of which I list below but I'm only slowly finding out about them. https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android (deprecated 22Feb24) https://comp.mobile.android.narkive.com/ https://pi-dach.dorfdsl.de/rocksolid/search.php https://www.novabbs.com/computers/thread.php?group=comp.mobile.android https://archive.org/details/usenethistorical
https://usenetarchives.com/
Which of those do you like best?
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