United Airlines has sharpened its onboard protocols, explicitly directing flight attendants to steer clear of personal electronic devices while on duty.
https://www.foxnews.com/tech/united-to-flight-attendants-put-away-phone- or-you-are-fired
On 05.02.24 09:24, useapen wrote:
United Airlines has sharpened its onboard protocols, explicitly directing
flight attendants to steer clear of personal electronic devices while on
duty.
https://www.foxnews.com/tech/united-to-flight-attendants-put-away-phone-
or-you-are-fired
Fox as a source has *zero credibility*.
Nevertheless United puts the passenger first. Nothing to complain about.
On 2/5/24 4:07 AM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
On 05.02.24 09:24, useapen wrote:Ummm, wouldn't it have actually been more accurate if you had simply
United Airlines has sharpened its onboard protocols, explicitly
directing
flight attendants to steer clear of personal electronic devices while on >>> duty.
https://www.foxnews.com/tech/united-to-flight-attendants-put-away-phone- >>> or-you-are-fired
Fox as a source has *zero credibility*.
Nevertheless United puts the passenger first. Nothing to complain about.
said that you don't like Fox News because they don't parrot the
mainstream media's disingenuous liberal mantra
United Airlines has sharpened its onboard protocols, explicitly directing flight attendants to steer clear of personal electronic devices while on duty.
"Use of a personal electronic device and/or accessories is not permitted >while customers are on board the aircraft, with the exception of crew
rest. ... Any crewmember found in violation will be subject to performance >discipline up to and including termination," the memo states
On 2/5/24 4:07 AM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
On 05.02.24 09:24, useapen wrote:
United Airlines has sharpened its onboard protocols, explicitly directing >>> flight attendants to steer clear of personal electronic devices while on >>> duty.
https://www.foxnews.com/tech/united-to-flight-attendants-put-away-phone- >>> or-you-are-fired
Fox as a source has *zero credibility*.
Nevertheless United puts the passenger first. Nothing to complain about.Ummm, wouldn't it have actually been more accurate if you had simply
said that you don't like Fox News because they don't parrot the
mainstream media's disingenuous liberal mantra which is oh so comforting
to you and those of your ilk?
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In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 5 Feb 2024 08:24:55 -0000 (UTC), useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
"Use of a personal electronic device and/or accessories is not permitted
while customers are on board the aircraft, with the exception of crew
rest. ... Any crewmember found in violation will be subject to performance >> discipline up to and including termination," the memo states
I have doubts if this is a good idea. I was on a United AL flight and
the flight attendant read on Yahoo News a Breaking News story that our
plane was crashing. She notified the pilot and he took care of it. What would have happened if she weren't using her phone?
On Mon, 5 Feb 2024 08:35:37 -0500, Colour Sergeant Bourne <bourne@rorke.za> wrote:
Ummm, wouldn't it have actually been more accurate if you had simply
said that you don't like Fox News because they don't parrot the
mainstream media's disingenuous liberal mantra which is oh so comforting
to you and those of your ilk?
It would be even more accurate to say there are 787 million pieces of evidence that Fox is
a bunch greedy, lying assholes.
Swill
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In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 5 Feb 2024 08:24:55 -0000 (UTC), useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
"Use of a personal electronic device and/or accessories is not permitted
while customers are on board the aircraft, with the exception of crew
rest. ... Any crewmember found in violation will be subject to performance >> discipline up to and including termination," the memo states
I have doubts if this is a good idea. I was on a United AL flight and
the flight attendant read on Yahoo News a Breaking News story that our
plane was crashing. She notified the pilot and he took care of it. What would have happened if she weren't using her phone?
On 2/5/24 4:07 AM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
On 05.02.24 09:24, useapen wrote:Ummm, wouldn't it have actually been more accurate if you had simply
United Airlines has sharpened its onboard protocols, explicitly directing >>> flight attendants to steer clear of personal electronic devices while on >>> duty.
https://www.foxnews.com/tech/united-to-flight-attendants-put-away-phone- >>> or-you-are-fired
Fox as a source has *zero credibility*.
Nevertheless United puts the passenger first. Nothing to complain about.
said that you don't like Fox News because they don't parrot the
mainstream media's disingenuous liberal mantra which is oh so comforting
to you and those of your ilk?
On Mon, 5 Feb 2024 08:35:37 -0500, Colour Sergeant Bourne <bourne@rorke.za> wrote:
Ummm, wouldn't it have actually been more accurate if you had simply
said that you don't like Fox News because they don't parrot the
mainstream media's disingenuous liberal mantra which is oh so comforting
to you and those of your ilk?
It would be even more accurate to say there are 787 million pieces of evidence that Fox is
a bunch greedy, lying assholes.
On 2024-02-05 12:07, micky wrote:
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 5 Feb 2024 08:24:55 -0000 (UTC), useapen
<yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
"Use of a personal electronic device and/or accessories is not permitted >>> while customers are on board the aircraft, with the exception of crew
rest. ... Any crewmember found in violation will be subject to performance >>> discipline up to and including termination," the memo states
I have doubts if this is a good idea. I was on a United AL flight and
the flight attendant read on Yahoo News a Breaking News story that our
plane was crashing. She notified the pilot and he took care of it. What
would have happened if she weren't using her phone?
I'd call that an edge case.
Not to quibble, but I fear you've confused who those many pieces of >>evidence point toward. It's your friends, family and co-workers-- not
Fox ;-)
Then maybe they should donate to Fox to help pay it off. ;)
Mom after a family reunion trip: "I spent the last weekend with Aida and Duke in North
Carolina. First thing in the morning the turn on Fox news and it stays on day and night.
I couldn't wait to get out of that house!"
Swill
On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 21:38:43 -0700, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Alan Browne wrote:
On 2024-02-05 12:07, micky wrote:
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 5 Feb 2024 08:24:55 -0000 (UTC), useapen >>>> <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
"Use of a personal electronic device and/or accessories is not permitted >>>>> while customers are on board the aircraft, with the exception of crew >>>>> rest. ... Any crewmember found in violation will be subject to performance
discipline up to and including termination," the memo states
I have doubts if this is a good idea. I was on a United AL flight and >>>> the flight attendant read on Yahoo News a Breaking News story that our >>>> plane was crashing. She notified the pilot and he took care of it. What >>>> would have happened if she weren't using her phone?
I'd call that an edge case.
I'd also call that desperate and MADE UP.
I'm thinking it was sarcasm.
Swill
Alan Browne wrote:
On 2024-02-05 12:07, micky wrote:
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 5 Feb 2024 08:24:55 -0000 (UTC), useapen >>> <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
"Use of a personal electronic device and/or accessories is not
permitted
while customers are on board the aircraft, with the exception of crew
rest. ... Any crewmember found in violation will be subject to
performance
discipline up to and including termination," the memo states
I have doubts if this is a good idea. I was on a United AL flight and
the flight attendant read on Yahoo News a Breaking News story that our
plane was crashing. She notified the pilot and he took care of it. What >>> would have happened if she weren't using her phone?
I'd call that an edge case.
I'd also call that desperate and MADE UP.
On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 21:38:43 -0700, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Alan Browne wrote:
On 2024-02-05 12:07, micky wrote:
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 5 Feb 2024 08:24:55 -0000 (UTC), useapen >>>> <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
"Use of a personal electronic device and/or accessories is not permitted >>>>> while customers are on board the aircraft, with the exception of crew >>>>> rest. ... Any crewmember found in violation will be subject to performance
discipline up to and including termination," the memo states
I have doubts if this is a good idea. I was on a United AL flight and >>>> the flight attendant read on Yahoo News a Breaking News story that our >>>> plane was crashing. She notified the pilot and he took care of it. What >>>> would have happened if she weren't using her phone?
I'd call that an edge case.
I'd also call that desperate and MADE UP.
I'm thinking it was sarcasm.
On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 08:47:35 -0500, Colour Sergeant Bourne <bourne@rorke.za> wrote:
On 2/5/24 10:55 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Mon, 5 Feb 2024 08:35:37 -0500, Colour Sergeant Bourne <bourne@rorke.za> wrote:
Ummm, wouldn't it have actually been more accurate if you had simply
said that you don't like Fox News because they don't parrot the
mainstream media's disingenuous liberal mantra which is oh so comforting >>>> to you and those of your ilk?
It would be even more accurate to say there are 787 million pieces of evidence that Fox is
a bunch greedy, lying assholes.
Not to quibble, but I fear you've confused who those many pieces of
evidence point toward. It's your friends, family and co-workers-- not
Fox ;-)
Then maybe they should donate to Fox to help pay it off. ;)
Mom after a family reunion trip: "I spent the last weekend with Aida and Duke in North
Carolina. First thing in the morning the turn on Fox news and it stays on day and night.
I couldn't wait to get out of that house!"
On 2024-02-07 04:33, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 08:47:35 -0500, Colour Sergeant Bourne <bourne@rorke.za> wrote:
On 2/5/24 10:55 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Mon, 5 Feb 2024 08:35:37 -0500, Colour Sergeant Bourne <bourne@rorke.za> wrote:
Ummm, wouldn't it have actually been more accurate if you had simply >>>>> said that you don't like Fox News because they don't parrot the
mainstream media's disingenuous liberal mantra which is oh so comforting >>>>> to you and those of your ilk?
It would be even more accurate to say there are 787 million pieces of evidence that Fox is
a bunch greedy, lying assholes.
Not to quibble, but I fear you've confused who those many pieces of
evidence point toward. It's your friends, family and co-workers-- not
Fox ;-)
Then maybe they should donate to Fox to help pay it off. ;)
Mom after a family reunion trip: "I spent the last weekend with Aida and Duke in North
Carolina. First thing in the morning the turn on Fox news and it stays on day and night.
I couldn't wait to get out of that house!"
I have a friend who can't stand not having a radio playing all day.
News mainly.
He's miffed when I'm over at his place and we're puttering on a car or >something and I ask him to turn off the radio.
On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 09:44:07 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 07 Feb 2024 04:33:19 -0500, Governor
Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
Not to quibble, but I fear you've confused who those many pieces of >>>>evidence point toward. It's your friends, family and co-workers-- not >>>>Fox ;-)
Then maybe they should donate to Fox to help pay it off. ;)
Mom after a family reunion trip: "I spent the last weekend with Aida and Duke in North
Carolina. First thing in the morning the turn on Fox news and it stays on day and night.
I couldn't wait to get out of that house!"
That would be terrible. But I don't even like it when the program is
just cartoons or something and the tv is on constantly even though no
one is watching it. It's more the lack of peace and quiet than the
waste of electricity, because afaik even the large screens don't use
much electricity.
I would argue that last with you. Even the most efficient flat panels exhaust a lot of
heat. It feels warm at the top but that's because the heat is spread out over a large
area. A flat panel is going to emit at least as much waste heat as a 100watt light bulb.
That adds up.
Brother and sister in law are staying here while their house is being remodeled. They
have four dogs. The have an aquarium screen saver built into their Roku box. They leave
it on when they leave the house.
They never turn out lights until bedtime.
I've shivered
wearing a sweater because the keep the AC temp set so low.
I find the sheer waste of it offensive.
Swill
On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 12:49:30 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
I was wrong on the flat-screen tv, but a radio must not use much at all.
I've not checked, but they used to have transistors that would play for
hours or days on a 9-volt battery, so I assume they don't use much.
And I too have the radio on about 85% of the time. News mainly. And
the tv about 5% of the time, when I eat. 60's reruns.
He's miffed when I'm over at his place and we're puttering on a car or
something and I ask him to turn off the radio.
I don't think I'd be miffed but it's so long since I've had company, I'm
not sure.
My computer is on most of the day but only when I'm in front of it. I shutdown rather
than sleep it when I'm done with it. I don't use TV or radio, I stream everything.
In customer service I'm astounded at how many people never do a shutdown. They don't seem
to get that the machine still uses energy in sleep mode.
On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 09:37:52 -0500, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2024-02-08 00:57, Governor Swill wrote:
On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 12:49:30 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote: >>>
I was wrong on the flat-screen tv, but a radio must not use much at all. >>>> I've not checked, but they used to have transistors that would play for >>>> hours or days on a 9-volt battery, so I assume they don't use much.
And I too have the radio on about 85% of the time. News mainly. And >>>> the tv about 5% of the time, when I eat. 60's reruns.
He's miffed when I'm over at his place and we're puttering on a car or >>>>> something and I ask him to turn off the radio.
I don't think I'd be miffed but it's so long since I've had company, I'm >>>> not sure.
My computer is on most of the day but only when I'm in front of it. I shutdown rather
than sleep it when I'm done with it. I don't use TV or radio, I stream everything.
In customer service I'm astounded at how many people never do a shutdown. They don't seem
to get that the machine still uses energy in sleep mode.
Always sleep the computer. Up to 60 days before re-boots.
If you're going that long between reboots, you're blocking the OS and other programs from
updating. That's bad practice.
1) Quebec is near 100% renewable energy, and it's cheap (6.5¢ / kWh
base; 10¢ / kWh for everything above 40 kWh/day (averaged over ~60 days).
That's no excuse to be wasteful. That renewable energy could be shared with others if you
weren't wasting it.
2) In the winter waste heat from the computer goes to the house, so it's
zero energy cost/impact from about Nov to mid April.
What about the rest of the year?
On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 09:37:52 -0500, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2024-02-08 00:57, Governor Swill wrote:
On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 12:49:30 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote: >>>
I was wrong on the flat-screen tv, but a radio must not use much at all. >>>> I've not checked, but they used to have transistors that would play for >>>> hours or days on a 9-volt battery, so I assume they don't use much.
And I too have the radio on about 85% of the time. News mainly. And >>>> the tv about 5% of the time, when I eat. 60's reruns.
He's miffed when I'm over at his place and we're puttering on a car or >>>>> something and I ask him to turn off the radio.
I don't think I'd be miffed but it's so long since I've had company, I'm >>>> not sure.
My computer is on most of the day but only when I'm in front of it. I shutdown rather
than sleep it when I'm done with it. I don't use TV or radio, I stream everything.
In customer service I'm astounded at how many people never do a shutdown. They don't seem
to get that the machine still uses energy in sleep mode.
Always sleep the computer. Up to 60 days before re-boots.
If you're going that long between reboots, you're blocking the OS and other programs from
updating. That's bad practice.
1) Quebec is near 100% renewable energy, and it's cheap (6.5¢ / kWh
base; 10¢ / kWh for everything above 40 kWh/day (averaged over ~60 days).
That's no excuse to be wasteful. That renewable energy could be shared with others if you
weren't wasting it.
2) In the winter waste heat from the computer goes to the house, so it's
zero energy cost/impact from about Nov to mid April.
What about the rest of the year?
On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 13:35:53 -0500, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
If you're going that long between reboots, you're blocking the OS and other programs from
updating. That's bad practice.
Only if there are actually OS updates - 95% of which are incremental and
of no real consequence.
I forgot you were in Canada. Windows for Canadians doesn't update weekly like Windows for
the US does.
On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 13:35:53 -0500, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
If you're going that long between reboots, you're blocking the OS and other programs from
updating. That's bad practice.
Only if there are actually OS updates - 95% of which are incremental and
of no real consequence.
I forgot you were in Canada. Windows for Canadians doesn't update weekly like Windows for
the US does.
Swill
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On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 16:06:35 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-02-08 15:59, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 13:35:53 -0500, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
If you're going that long between reboots, you're blocking the OS and other programs from
updating. That's bad practice.
Only if there are actually OS updates - 95% of which are incremental and >>>> of no real consequence.
I forgot you were in Canada. Windows for Canadians doesn't update weekly like Windows for
the US does.
Windows for anywhere doesn't update at all...
...when the computer is shutdown.
I see you don't know a lot about Windows either.
On Fri, 9 Feb 2024 11:26:42 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
By all means... ...educate me:
How does your computer run updates to Windows...
...while it is shutdown?
It downloads and prepares updates at any time it is running. Most updates require a
shutdown or restart. If you don't shutdown or restart, Windows won't update.
On Fri, 9 Feb 2024 11:26:42 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
By all means... ...educate me:
How does your computer run updates to Windows...
...while it is shutdown?
It downloads and prepares updates at any time it is running. Most updates require a
shutdown or restart. If you don't shutdown or restart, Windows won't update.
On Fri, 9 Feb 2024 16:18:17 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-02-09 16:02, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 9 Feb 2024 11:26:42 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
By all means... ...educate me:
How does your computer run updates to Windows...
...while it is shutdown?
It downloads and prepares updates at any time it is running. Most updates require a
shutdown or restart. If you don't shutdown or restart, Windows won't update.
And you can be INFORMED that an update is waiting...
...in fact, ARE INFORMED unless you've taken steps to disable the
notifications...
...so you can simply restart when you are informed that there is an
update waiting.
So choosing to sleep your computer most of the time has ZERO impact on
getting your updates done.
<https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/stop-your-computer-from-randomly-waking-up-from-sleep-mode>
On 2024-02-09 19:02, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 9 Feb 2024 11:26:42 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
By all means... ...educate me:
How does your computer run updates to Windows...
...while it is shutdown?
It downloads and prepares updates at any time it is running. Most updates require a
shutdown or restart. If you don't shutdown or restart, Windows won't update.
I've never seen it happen, but I recall people complaining that just as >they've setup their presentation, and people wander into the room just
on time for the 10:00, greet people, a few remarks, and then turn down
the lights a notch, ...
... everyone gets to see the Windows machine go into a reset/re-start OS >update that can't be stopped.
Is that still an issue?
On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 08:32:14 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
<https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/stop-your-computer-from-randomly-waking-up-from-sleep-mode>
'Here's how to make sure your Windows 10 or Windows 11 PC stays asleep.'
Not really a problem for me.
;-)
You're an experienced Windows user. Not everybody is. I have over twenty years
experience troubleshooting Windows and one common thread I've found in broken/infected
machines is users who never shut it down.
On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 20:31:00 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 10 Feb 2024 09:26:05 -0500, Alan Browne
<bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2024-02-09 19:02, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 9 Feb 2024 11:26:42 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
By all means... ...educate me:
How does your computer run updates to Windows...
...while it is shutdown?
It downloads and prepares updates at any time it is running. Most updates require a
shutdown or restart. If you don't shutdown or restart, Windows won't update.
I've never seen it happen, but I recall people complaining that just as
they've setup their presentation, and people wander into the room just
on time for the 10:00, greet people, a few remarks, and then turn down
the lights a notch, ...
... everyone gets to see the Windows machine go into a reset/re-start OS >>> update that can't be stopped.
Is that still an issue?
last I heard the status is this: MS let you chooose a 12-hour period
each day when there won't be any updates.
that doesn't work well for me because I sleep and work odd hours.
But another guy wrote a short program t hat constantly changes the 12
hour period so I am always in the 3rd hour of it, with 9 hours to go. So
now it never restarts except when I let it.
Sometimes the computer slows down and I need to restart it. Usually I
check for windows updates before I do. I download them and let them
update during restart if that is what they need.
I go about a week between restarts, but I'm willing to go much longer
when it doesn't give me trouble, like slowness. (The other day, for the
first time ever, alt-tab didn't work! Restarting fixed that.)
When Windows tells me an update is ready and needs a restart. I drop what I'm doing and
let it update immediately. Five minute coffee break and I don't have to worry about
security patches being up to date.
On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 23:36:56 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-02-10 17:49, Governor Swill wrote:
On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 08:32:14 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
<https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/stop-your-computer-from-randomly-waking-up-from-sleep-mode>
'Here's how to make sure your Windows 10 or Windows 11 PC stays asleep.' >>>>
Not really a problem for me.
;-)
You're an experienced Windows user. Not everybody is. I have over twenty years
experience troubleshooting Windows and one common thread I've found in broken/infected
machines is users who never shut it down.
You missed what I meant.
I use an OS that works better than that.
Then why are you butting into a conversation about an OS you don't use?
On 2024-02-07 09:02, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 21:38:43 -0700, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
Alan Browne wrote:
On 2024-02-05 12:07, micky wrote:
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 5 Feb 2024 08:24:55 -0000 (UTC),
useapen
<yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
"Use of a personal electronic device and/or accessories is not
permitted
while customers are on board the aircraft, with the exception of crew >>>>>> rest. ... Any crewmember found in violation will be subject to
performance
discipline up to and including termination," the memo states
I have doubts if this is a good idea. I was on a United AL flight and >>>>> the flight attendant read on Yahoo News a Breaking News story that our >>>>> plane was crashing. She notified the pilot and he took care of it. >>>>> What
would have happened if she weren't using her phone?
I'd call that an edge case.
I'd also call that desperate and MADE UP.
I'm thinking it was sarcasm.
Because you're infected with the ability to think. Others seem immune
to it.
I didn't mean to be sarcastic, actually, just a funny retort to a funny
bit by mickey.
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