• Screen image enlarged and bordered in red.

    From micky@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 25 08:12:28 2024
    On more than one phone I've had, sometimes the image on the screen gets
    twice as big, so one can only see part of it, and it's outlined in red. Useless.

    I can get rid of this by using the power button to make the screen dark,
    and when I light it up again, the screen is normal. And maybe I had
    some other better way???

    But what is this called, what am I doing to cause it, and how can I
    avoid it?

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to micky on Thu Jan 25 10:06:52 2024
    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    On more than one phone I've had, sometimes the image on the screen gets
    twice as big, so one can only see part of it, and it's outlined in red. Useless.

    I can get rid of this by using the power button to make the screen dark,
    and when I light it up again, the screen is normal. And maybe I had
    some other better way???

    But what is this called, what am I doing to cause it, and how can I
    avoid it?

    Only you, as yet, know what app you are using to view images, and from
    what source. Probably more important is the image viewer app, but your
    brand and model of phone may be the cause, like some setting regarding
    zooming the screen. Stop deliberately omitting the important details.
    Without the details, no one but you knows what the Power button is
    doing. Maybe you are powering off the phone, so you are restarting your
    phone which loads anew any sticky or service apps. Maybe the Power
    button with a momentary press will lock the screen (make the screen go
    dark). When unlocking, the screen gets refreshed, so whatever image app
    you used also has its window refreshed, too.

    Not many here can see over your shoulder to see what brand and model of
    phone you use, or just how you are viewing some image. Details please.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Thu Jan 25 18:06:47 2024
    VanguardLH wrote:

    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    On more than one phone I've had, sometimes the image on the screen gets
    twice as big, so one can only see part of it, and it's outlined in red.
    Useless.

    I can get rid of this by using the power button to make the screen dark,
    and when I light it up again, the screen is normal. And maybe I had
    some other better way???

    But what is this called, what am I doing to cause it, and how can I
    avoid it?

    Only you, as yet, know what app you are using to view images, and from
    what source. Probably more important is the image viewer app,

    I don't think he's viewing images as such, just the display of the app
    itself is what he called "an image"?

    sounds to me accidentally triggering magnify mode for visually impaired?

    <https://mcmw.abilitynet.org.uk/how-to-magnify-the-screen-in-android-13>

    but your
    brand and model of phone may be the cause, like some setting regarding zooming the screen. Stop deliberately omitting the important details. Without the details, no one but you knows what the Power button is
    doing. Maybe you are powering off the phone, so you are restarting your phone which loads anew any sticky or service apps. Maybe the Power
    button with a momentary press will lock the screen (make the screen go
    dark). When unlocking, the screen gets refreshed, so whatever image app
    you used also has its window refreshed, too.

    Not many here can see over your shoulder to see what brand and model of
    phone you use, or just how you are viewing some image. Details please.

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Thu Jan 25 12:22:58 2024
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    On more than one phone I've had, sometimes the image on the screen gets
    twice as big, so one can only see part of it, and it's outlined in red.
    Useless.

    I can get rid of this by using the power button to make the screen dark, >>> and when I light it up again, the screen is normal. And maybe I had
    some other better way???

    But what is this called, what am I doing to cause it, and how can I
    avoid it?

    Only you, as yet, know what app you are using to view images, and from
    what source. Probably more important is the image viewer app,

    I don't think he's viewing images as such, just the display of the app
    itself is what he called "an image"?

    But we still don't know which app, or it a multitude of apps, that are afflicted with the display problem.

    sounds to me accidentally triggering magnify mode for visually impaired?

    <https://mcmw.abilitynet.org.uk/how-to-magnify-the-screen-in-android-13>

    Never used that, but then I've never used the Magnifier app on Windows,
    either. I've seen it, I tested it a couple times to see what it did,
    but I don't use it. On my old LG V20 phone, I can enable that
    accessibility option, but I also have to select where it is available
    (but not many pertinent choices, so I didn't see the shortcut in the few
    apps where I tried). A note in the accessibility settings notes that I
    can triple-tap the Home button, so I tried that. That gives me a window showing an enlarged view port of some of the screen content. The
    outline or border, for me, is gray/white, not red. There is a toggle
    button inside the view port to switch between light and dark modes.

    Although text is smaller on a smartphone screen than a desktop monitor,
    about the only time I need to zoom is when displaying a web site,
    especially if showing the desktop version of the site instead of the
    mobile version, but the web browser lets me pinch in/out to change zoom.
    My eyes are old, reading a smartphone's screen is harder than when using
    a desktop monitor, but I've yet to need reading glasses (prescription,
    not those stupid magnifiers) to view my phone although that might happen
    one day.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to V@nguard.LH on Thu Jan 25 15:10:35 2024
    In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 25 Jan 2024 12:22:58 -0600, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    On more than one phone I've had, sometimes the image on the screen gets >>>> twice as big, so one can only see part of it, and it's outlined in red. >>>> Useless.

    I can get rid of this by using the power button to make the screen dark, >>>> and when I light it up again, the screen is normal. And maybe I had
    some other better way???

    But what is this called, what am I doing to cause it, and how can I
    avoid it?

    Only you, as yet, know what app you are using to view images, and from
    what source. Probably more important is the image viewer app,

    I often don't look at who is writing, but I knew it was you because you
    always ask for such information, even when it varies or when it's
    irrelevant.

    I don't think he's viewing images as such, just the display of the app
    itself is what he called "an image"?

    Yes.

    But we still don't know which app, or it a multitude of apps, that are >afflicted with the display problem.

    And yet Andy got it right.

    sounds to me accidentally triggering magnify mode for visually impaired?

    <https://mcmw.abilitynet.org.uk/how-to-magnify-the-screen-in-android-13>

    I'm sure I didn't set it**, but under magnification there was a shortcut enabled, just 3 taps. Something pretty easy to do even when not
    trying.

    **Because the only screen I ever want magnified is the map or sat view,
    or a photo, and there are already ways to do that. Text is big enough
    already, I'm glad to say.

    But I turned it off and I shoud be good.

    I didn't pursue the issue on a previous phone.

    Never used that, but then I've never used the Magnifier app on Windows, >either. I've seen it, I tested it a couple times to see what it did,
    but I don't use it.

    Me too. I don't know how that shortcut got turned on.

    On my old LG V20 phone, I can enable that
    accessibility option, but I also have to select where it is available
    (but not many pertinent choices, so I didn't see the shortcut in the few
    apps where I tried). A note in the accessibility settings notes that I
    can triple-tap the Home button, so I tried that. That gives me a window >showing an enlarged view port of some of the screen content. The
    outline or border, for me, is gray/white, not red. There is a toggle
    button inside the view port to switch between light and dark modes.

    Although text is smaller on a smartphone screen than a desktop monitor,
    about the only time I need to zoom is when displaying a web site,
    especially if showing the desktop version of the site instead of the
    mobile version, but the web browser lets me pinch in/out to change zoom.
    My eyes are old, reading a smartphone's screen is harder than when using
    a desktop monitor, but I've yet to need reading glasses (prescription,
    not those stupid magnifiers) to view my phone although that might happen
    one day.

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to micky on Thu Jan 25 16:34:08 2024
    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
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    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    On more than one phone I've had, sometimes the image on the screen gets >>>>> twice as big, so one can only see part of it, and it's outlined in red. >>>>> Useless.

    I can get rid of this by using the power button to make the screen dark, >>>>> and when I light it up again, the screen is normal. And maybe I had >>>>> some other better way???

    But what is this called, what am I doing to cause it, and how can I
    avoid it?

    Only you, as yet, know what app you are using to view images, and from >>>> what source. Probably more important is the image viewer app,

    I often don't look at who is writing, but I knew it was you because you always ask for such information, even when it varies or when it's
    irrelevant.

    Other respondents have asked for details, too. Yet even after I or
    others ask for details, you still refuse to provide them as though you
    are a troll pretending to ask for help but deliberately trying to waste
    the time of respondents. We've had those trolls before. In fact,
    originally trolls appeared as normal posters asking for help but their
    intent was to disrupt the newsgroup or waste the responders efforts.
    Trolls don't identify themselves as such. They aren't flamers, foul
    mouthed, or in any way obviously a troll. They were subtle, like, ahem, someone issuing nebulous queries that make impossible focused replies.

    You really think we are there watching over your shoulder to see what
    you try to describe on your phone we can't see and you don't identify?
    Sorry, the battery died in my telescopic crystal ball that can bend
    around the curvature of the Earth, and the battery is 2 months, or more,
    on backorder.

    Reread your post before submit to make sure OTHERS have enough info to
    even grasp your situation instead of having to guess at it. The
    infinite monkey theorem states that if you let a monkey hit the keys of
    a typewriter at random an infinite amount of times, eventually the
    monkey will type out the entire works of Shakespeare. Is that the
    quality you want for the multitude of replies trying to guess your
    situation? Yes, I ask for details, but you deliberately omit them!

    I don't think he's viewing images as such, just the display of the app
    itself is what he called "an image"?

    Yes.

    But we still don't know which app, or it a multitude of apps, that
    are afflicted with the display problem.

    And yet Andy got it right.

    When many people have to guess, one might get it right. What is the
    color of the coaster on my desk? Well, given enough replies, someone
    might get it right.

    If Andy was wrong on his guess, we're back to my guess you're asking
    about display some image in some app, but there are possibly even more scenarios where what you described could happen.

    Reread your original message. Did it seem obvious even to you what you
    meant to say versus what you actually said? Read it as someone OTHER
    than yourself to see if it makes sense to OTHERS. You need to proof
    read as though someone else (that is not there with you) reads your
    message.

    If you don't want respondents to be off-target with their guesses based
    on your vague description then provide the details whether you think
    they are relevant, or not. As been evident by your history here,
    respondents do need more details. If you don't want them to guess, give details. If you still want to submit nebulous inquiries, expect
    off-target guesses, and don't whine about getting FREE help. You could
    ask for a refund on my suggestion that was off-target when blind folded
    by you regarding your actual scenario.

    When I see it's you, my first reaction is, "Oh joy, another nebulous
    inquiry, and wasting time guessing while trying to zero in". Then I
    decide if I'm going to waste time composing a huge all-encompassing
    diagnosis of all causes that are candidates for a badly described
    scenario, or just pick one possibility to offer, and move on to more
    lower hanging fruit. With your initial post, you didn't give enough to
    even pounce on one, and only one, possible solution. When you are
    deliberately vague, why are you suprised when asked for more details?
    You really don't know what phone brand and model you are using, and it
    is an onerous task to find out?

    You go into a tire shop to request 4 new tires be mounted on your car.
    That's all you say. It's really that much of a surprise or nuisance the
    rep asks you for the make and model of your car, or what is currently
    mounted on your car, to figure what size tires to mount? Even after the
    rep asks, you remain furtive in indentifying your tires, and instead
    berate the rep for asking for details. If I forget to identify my
    phone, and someone asks, it really isn't a onus to reply with "LG V20",
    and perhaps even add "Android 8.0.0", especially since that criteria
    really should've been at the head of my message to identify the
    scenario. I forgot, I add, but I don't keep refusing to identify.
    Being ostreperous indicates a troll, not someone asking for help.

    sounds to me accidentally triggering magnify mode for visually impaired? >>>
    <https://mcmw.abilitynet.org.uk/how-to-magnify-the-screen-in-android-13>

    I'm sure I didn't set it**, but under magnification there was a shortcut enabled, just 3 taps. Something pretty easy to do even when not
    trying.

    Quickly tapping the screen 3 times in the same spot is something easy
    for you to do? Could happen for those with a nervous disorder. The OS (customized in branded phones other than Google) had to pick some number
    of quick taps in succession, but whatever count they picked could be "accidentally" performed by some users. For someone that wanted to use
    the feature, they would complain that it took 6 taps in quick succesion
    at the same screen spot, because someone else complained 3 was too few.
    Those who want the feature would complain it wasn't enabled by default
    because other users that didn't want the feature complained it was
    enabled by default. Impossible to satisfy the expectations of all
    users. Sometimes a double-tap doesn't work, because it was too long
    between the taps, or you didn't manage to tap twice in the sam spot.

    In the smartphones I've had, none had the 3-tap shortcut enabled, or
    perhaps it was enabled but I never fluttered my finger on the screen to "accidentally" hit 3 taps in quick succession at the same spot. Perhaps
    your phone maker choose a different set of defaults. For example, some
    users like gesture input in the virtual keyboard (sliding your finger to
    the different characters instead of lifting and tapping on characters),
    so they'd probably like to have gesture input enabled by default.
    Others don't want gesture input, so they would prefer the default was
    disabled. Not sure how you're going to satisfy everyone that wants
    every feature, some that want some features, and some that want few
    features to eliminate the fluff. Without a sampling of other users of
    your same phone, no way to tell which default the phone or app maker
    might've chosen.

    All these features whether disabled or enabled by default are to
    compensate for a crappy user input method.

    I don't know how that shortcut got turned on.

    Maybe that fluttering finger again. Or rolling on your phone while
    trying to listen to audio in bed using ear buds somewhat similar to a
    butt dial.

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