I understand that to call someone with whatsapp, his name and number has
to go in the whatsapp contact list, but when I'm in whatsapp and I try
to put in a contact, it shows up in the general contact list and not the whatsapp list. Tried 4 times, Paul2, Paul3, Paul4, and Paul5. All of
them promptly showed up in the general contacts list. And there they
won't work for me, to enable whatsapp calls.
This seems very strange.
Any suggestsions.
On 2024-01-17 04:34, micky wrote:
I understand that to call someone with whatsapp, his name and number has
to go in the whatsapp contact list, but when I'm in whatsapp and I try
to put in a contact, it shows up in the general contact list and not the
whatsapp list. Tried 4 times, Paul2, Paul3, Paul4, and Paul5. All of
them promptly showed up in the general contacts list. And there they
won't work for me, to enable whatsapp calls.
This seems very strange.
Any suggestsions.
There is only one contact list, the system one (the general one). That's where new contacts go. Whatsapp simply keeps track of it and adds some
more info somewhere (if the contact has whatsapp, the photo, whatever).
I understand that to call someone with whatsapp, his name and number has
to go in the whatsapp contact list, but when I'm in whatsapp and I try
to put in a contact, it shows up in the general contact list and not the whatsapp list. Tried 4 times, Paul2, Paul3, Paul4, and Paul5. All of
them promptly showed up in the general contacts list. And there they
won't work for me, to enable whatsapp calls.
This seems very strange.
Any suggestsions.
On 2024-01-17 04:34, micky wrote:
I understand that to call someone with whatsapp, his name and number has
to go in the whatsapp contact list, but when I'm in whatsapp and I try
to put in a contact, it shows up in the general contact list and not the
whatsapp list. Tried 4 times, Paul2, Paul3, Paul4, and Paul5. All of
them promptly showed up in the general contacts list. And there they
won't work for me, to enable whatsapp calls.
This seems very strange.
Any suggestsions.
There is only one contact list, the system one (the general one). That's >where new contacts go. Whatsapp simply keeps track of it and adds some
more info somewhere (if the contact has whatsapp, the photo, whatever).
And everyone in the contacts - if they like it or not - is exposed to
this criminal gang. That is why European companies forbid the use of WA
on company phones.
Even in the US banks were fined a couple of hundred
million Dollars because employees used WA against all regulations.
The sources of addresses/contacts for WA is your *complete addressbook*.
I understand that to call someone with whatsapp, his name and number has
to go in the whatsapp contact list
There is only one contact list, the system one (the general one).
Carlos E. R. wrote on Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:09:00 +0100 :
There is only one contact list, the system one (the general one).
This is wrong.
There may be only one /default/ contact database.
But WhatsApp has a /direct dialer/ that maintains its own contacts.
As do all good contacts, dialers, SMS/MMS and VOIP programs on Android.
On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:29:13 +0100, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
And everyone in the contacts - if they like it or not - is exposed to
this criminal gang. That is why European companies forbid the use of WA
on company phones.
They do? Which ones?
Even in the US banks were fined a couple of hundred
million Dollars because employees used WA against all regulations.
Source?
micky wrote on Tue, 16 Jan 2024 22:34:25 -0500 :
I understand that to call someone with whatsapp, his name and number has
to go in the whatsapp contact list
This is wrong.
WhatsApp has no access to your Android contacts database if set up right.
On 17.01.24 15:32, Andrew wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote on Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:09:00 +0100 :
There is only one contact list, the system one (the general one).
This is wrong.
There may be only one /default/ contact database.
But WhatsApp has a /direct dialer/ that maintains its own contacts.
As do all good contacts, dialers, SMS/MMS and VOIP programs on Android.
Thats wrong AFAIK. Can you deliver proof of this claim? I guess you can't.
In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:09:00 +0100, "Carlos E.
R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-01-17 04:34, micky wrote:
I understand that to call someone with whatsapp, his name and number has >>> to go in the whatsapp contact list, but when I'm in whatsapp and I try
to put in a contact, it shows up in the general contact list and not the >>> whatsapp list. Tried 4 times, Paul2, Paul3, Paul4, and Paul5. All of >>> them promptly showed up in the general contacts list. And there they
won't work for me, to enable whatsapp calls.
This seems very strange.
Any suggestsions.
There is only one contact list, the system one (the general one). That's >>where new contacts go. Whatsapp simply keeps track of it and adds some
more info somewhere (if the contact has whatsapp, the photo, whatever).
That would make sense. Perhaps he isn't enrolled in whatsapp so they
won't make an entry for him? That would sort of surprise me because he
was a lawyer, he got around, wasn't afraid of airplanes or travel.
OTOH, he wouldn't buy anything made in China, even when somethings were
hard to get except those made in China. So maybe he read the warnings
in this thread and decided against whatsapp.
I've emailed him to ask him.
On 17.01.24 14:41, s|b wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:29:13 +0100, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
And everyone in the contacts - if they like it or not - is exposed to
this criminal gang. That is why European companies forbid the use of WA
on company phones.
They do? Which ones?
All. Otherwise they are in breach of the GDPR. Can be extremely
expensive and painful. Hence my connotation that *WA is for housewifes
and teenagers*. And forget this bullshit about E2E-encryption.
Even in the US banks were fined a couple of hundred
million Dollars because employees used WA against all regulations.
Source?
I posted it a couple of months ago in this group.
Especially for the Trolls:
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/08/business/banks-fines-whatsapp-records.html
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-27/wall-street-whatsapp-probe-poised-to-result-in-historic-fine
micky, 2024-01-17 04:34:
I understand that to call someone with whatsapp, his name and number has
to go in the whatsapp contact list, but when I'm in whatsapp and I try
And the person you want to call has to have WhatsApp as well. Just
because someone is in a contact list does not mean, you can use WhatsApp
to call someone.
In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 17 Jan 2024 07:05:00 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
OTOH, he wouldn't buy anything made in China, even when somethings were
hard to get except those made in China. So maybe he read the warnings
in this thread and decided against whatsapp.
I've emailed him to ask him.
He already wrote back: Not on whatsapp. He "appreciates the thought,
that I wanted to show him on video where I was."
So I think I almost understand how it works.
I understand that to call someone with whatsapp, his name and number has
to go in the whatsapp contact list, but when I'm in whatsapp and I try
On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:29:13 +0100, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
And everyone in the contacts - if they like it or not - is exposed to
this criminal gang. That is why European companies forbid the use of WA
on company phones.
They do? Which ones?
Even in the US banks were fined a couple of hundred
million Dollars because employees used WA against all regulations.
Source?
On 17.01.24 14:41, s|b wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:29:13 +0100, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
And everyone in the contacts - if they like it or not - is exposed to
this criminal gang. That is why European companies forbid the use of WA
on company phones.
They do? Which ones?
All. Otherwise they are in breach of the GDPR. Can be extremely
expensive and painful. Hence my connotation that *WA is for housewifes
and teenagers*. And forget this bullshit about E2E-encryption.
On 2024-01-17 17:56, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
On 17.01.24 14:41, s|b wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:29:13 +0100, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
And everyone in the contacts - if they like it or not - is exposed to
this criminal gang. That is why European companies forbid the use of WA >>>> on company phones.
They do? Which ones?
All. Otherwise they are in breach of the GDPR. Can be extremely
expensive and painful. Hence my connotation that *WA is for housewifes
and teenagers*. And forget this bullshit about E2E-encryption.
False.
I know people on important technology companies, with company phones,
and using wasap.
As do all good contacts, dialers, SMS/MMS and VOIP programs on Android.
Thats wrong AFAIK. Can you deliver proof of this claim? I guess you can't.
<https://github.com/alejandrolopezparra/AndroidContactsDatabase-tools>
WhatsApp has no access to your Android contacts database if set up right.
This is definitely wrong. With work arounds it is possible but the list
is unusable and contains only numbers.
Am 17.01.24 um 21:53 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2024-01-17 17:56, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
On 17.01.24 14:41, s|b wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:29:13 +0100, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
And everyone in the contacts - if they like it or not - is exposed to >>>>> this criminal gang. That is why European companies forbid the use
of WA
on company phones.
They do? Which ones?
All. Otherwise they are in breach of the GDPR. Can be extremely
expensive and painful. Hence my connotation that *WA is for housewifes
and teenagers*. And forget this bullshit about E2E-encryption.
False.
Sweet. Because you cannot handle an attack on your beloved housewife toy?
I know people on important technology companies, with company phones,
and using wasap.
That does not relativize what I say. The European law is clear about that.
On 2024-01-17 22:51, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
Am 17.01.24 um 21:53 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2024-01-17 17:56, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
On 17.01.24 14:41, s|b wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:29:13 +0100, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
And everyone in the contacts - if they like it or not - is exposed to >>>>>> this criminal gang. That is why European companies forbid the use
of WA
on company phones.
They do? Which ones?
All. Otherwise they are in breach of the GDPR. Can be extremely
expensive and painful. Hence my connotation that *WA is for housewifes >>>> and teenagers*. And forget this bullshit about E2E-encryption.
False.
Sweet. Because you cannot handle an attack on your beloved housewife toy?
I know people on important technology companies, with company phones,
and using wasap.
That does not relativize what I say. The European law is clear about that. >>
Yeah, sure.
Because you hate wasap, we have to believe you?
This is a system-component and not an app.
Joerg Lorenz, 2024-01-17 17:58:
On 17.01.24 15:32, Andrew wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote on Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:09:00 +0100 :
There is only one contact list, the system one (the general one).
This is wrong.
There may be only one /default/ contact database.
But WhatsApp has a /direct dialer/ that maintains its own contacts.
As do all good contacts, dialers, SMS/MMS and VOIP programs on Android.
Thats wrong AFAIK. Can you deliver proof of this claim? I guess you can't.
<https://github.com/alejandrolopezparra/AndroidContactsDatabase-tools>
On 18.01.24 10:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-01-17 22:51, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
Am 17.01.24 um 21:53 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2024-01-17 17:56, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
On 17.01.24 14:41, s|b wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:29:13 +0100, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
And everyone in the contacts - if they like it or not - is exposed to >>>>>> this criminal gang. That is why European companies forbid the use >>>>>> of WA
on company phones.
They do? Which ones?
All. Otherwise they are in breach of the GDPR. Can be extremely
expensive and painful. Hence my connotation that *WA is for housewifes >>>> and teenagers*. And forget this bullshit about E2E-encryption.
False.
Sweet. Because you cannot handle an attack on your beloved housewife toy? >>
I know people on important technology companies, with company phones,
and using wasap.
That does not relativize what I say. The European law is clear about that.
Yeah, sure.
Because you hate wasap, we have to believe you?
Just read the text of the law. It is so easy.
To help you to understand the topic and its scope I add the link of Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation
There is a separate article concerning the fines in case of
noncompliance. The mentioned figures further above in this thread give
you an idea of the possible financial implications.
https://gdpr-info.eu
And everyone in the contacts - if they like it or not - is exposed to >>>>>> this criminal gang.
Joerg Lorenz wrote on Thu, 18 Jan 2024 11:36:55 +0100 :
This is a system-component and not an app.
This is an app which proves everything you've said is just so very wrong. >https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ml.bluelinestudio.privatecontact
Private Contacts isolates your contacts from rest of the applications on
your phone. Give your contacts the privacy they deserve, start a whatsapp >conversation with your private contacts without having to save them to your >primary contact app.
Features
App Lock
Whatsapp Conversations
Call
Sms
Text
Am 17.01.24 um 21:53 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2024-01-17 17:56, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
On 17.01.24 14:41, s|b wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:29:13 +0100, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
And everyone in the contacts - if they like it or not - is exposed to >>>>> this criminal gang. That is why European companies forbid the use of WA >>>>> on company phones.
They do? Which ones?
All. Otherwise they are in breach of the GDPR. Can be extremely
expensive and painful. Hence my connotation that *WA is for housewifes
and teenagers*. And forget this bullshit about E2E-encryption.
False.
Sweet. Because you cannot handle an attack on your beloved housewife toy?
I know people on important technology companies, with company phones,
and using wasap.
That does not relativize what I say. The European law is clear about that.
So stop your silly foot-stamping about stuff about which you have no
clue.
But doesn't that mean you have to reenter a bunch of contact
information, maybe more than once? That's not as easy on the phone as
on a PC or a paper tablet.
In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 17 Jan 2024 22:51:04 +0100, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
Am 17.01.24 um 21:53 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2024-01-17 17:56, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
On 17.01.24 14:41, s|b wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:29:13 +0100, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
And everyone in the contacts - if they like it or not - is exposed to >>>>>> this criminal gang. That is why European companies forbid the use of WA >>>>>> on company phones.
They do? Which ones?
All. Otherwise they are in breach of the GDPR. Can be extremely
expensive and painful. Hence my connotation that *WA is for housewifes >>>> and teenagers*. And forget this bullshit about E2E-encryption.
False.
Sweet. Because you cannot handle an attack on your beloved housewife toy?
You really know how to win friends.
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
On 18.01.24 10:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-01-17 22:51, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
Am 17.01.24 um 21:53 schrieb Carlos E. R.:Yeah, sure.
On 2024-01-17 17:56, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
On 17.01.24 14:41, s|b wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:29:13 +0100, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
And everyone in the contacts - if they like it or not - is exposed to >>>>>>>> this criminal gang. That is why European companies forbid the use >>>>>>>> of WA
on company phones.
They do? Which ones?
All. Otherwise they are in breach of the GDPR. Can be extremely
expensive and painful. Hence my connotation that *WA is for housewifes >>>>>> and teenagers*. And forget this bullshit about E2E-encryption.
False.
Sweet. Because you cannot handle an attack on your beloved housewife toy? >>>>
I know people on important technology companies, with company phones, >>>>> and using wasap.
That does not relativize what I say. The European law is clear about that. >>>
Because you hate wasap, we have to believe you?
Just read the text of the law. It is so easy.
To help you to understand the topic and its scope I add the link of
Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation
There is a separate article concerning the fines in case of
noncompliance. The mentioned figures further above in this thread give
you an idea of the possible financial implications.
https://gdpr-info.eu
We know all about the GDPR, but you fail to show that WhatsApp
violates the GDPR.
You can only emit utter nonsense like:
[Repeat/rewind:]
And everyone in the contacts - if they like it or not - is exposed to >>>>>>>> this criminal gang.
Which you *say*, but 1) which you can't *prove* (because it's false)
and 2) has been repeatedly been debunked by technical information (clue-by-four: hash) from WhatsApp Legal [1] and again in this thread.
So stop your silly foot-stamping about stuff about which you have no
clue.
[1] For example:
Message-ID: <t0np3c.c4s.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
And please don't humiliate yourself again like you did here:
Message-ID: <t0qf2v.1gk.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
On 18.01.24 10:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-01-17 22:51, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
Am 17.01.24 um 21:53 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2024-01-17 17:56, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
On 17.01.24 14:41, s|b wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:29:13 +0100, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
And everyone in the contacts - if they like it or not - is exposed to >>>>>>> this criminal gang. That is why European companies forbid the use >>>>>>> of WA
on company phones.
They do? Which ones?
All. Otherwise they are in breach of the GDPR. Can be extremely
expensive and painful. Hence my connotation that *WA is for housewifes >>>>> and teenagers*. And forget this bullshit about E2E-encryption.
False.
Sweet. Because you cannot handle an attack on your beloved housewife toy? >>>
I know people on important technology companies, with company phones,
and using wasap.
That does not relativize what I say. The European law is clear about that. >>>
Yeah, sure.
Because you hate wasap, we have to believe you?
Just read the text of the law. It is so easy.
To help you to understand the topic and its scope I add the link of Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation
There is a separate article concerning the fines in case of
noncompliance. The mentioned figures further above in this thread give
you an idea of the possible financial implications.
https://gdpr-info.eu
When you install whatsapp you agree to giving it your contacts list as
far as I remember.
On 21/1/2024, Richmond wrote:
When you install whatsapp you agree to giving it your contacts list as
far as I remember.
Since when does whatsapp _require_ your contacts list?
Since never is the answer.
On 21/1/2024, Richmond wrote:
When you install whatsapp you agree to giving it your contacts list as
far as I remember.
Since when does whatsapp _require_ your contacts list?
Since when does whatsapp _require_ your contacts list?
Since when does anyone require whatsapp?
WhatsApp asks for permission to access the contact list, of course it does.
You can answer "no", but then the app might not work /properly/.
Frankie <frankie@nospam.usa> writes:
On 21/1/2024, Richmond wrote:
When you install whatsapp you agree to giving it your contacts list as
far as I remember.
Since when does whatsapp _require_ your contacts list?
Since when does anyone require whatsapp?
On 2024-01-21 19:05, Richmond wrote:
Frankie <frankie@nospam.usa> writes:
On 21/1/2024, Richmond wrote:
When you install whatsapp you agree to giving it your contacts list as >>>> far as I remember.
Since when does whatsapp _require_ your contacts list?
Since when does anyone require whatsapp?
Since probably everybody *here* has it, and basically nobody *here* uses
SMS, and few use alternatives like Signal.
Like I phoned the other day an electrician, he said he would send
someone, and that someone "phoned" me using wasap chat.
Like if I have water leak, and the plumber asks me to send him photos
over wasap.
Like people asking me to send them the invoices over wasap, not email (I tried email).
Am 22.01.24 um 09:33 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2024-01-21 19:05, Richmond wrote:
Frankie <frankie@nospam.usa> writes:
On 21/1/2024, Richmond wrote:
When you install whatsapp you agree to giving it your contacts list as >>>> far as I remember.
Since when does whatsapp _require_ your contacts list?
Since when does anyone require whatsapp?
Since probably everybody *here* has it, and basically nobody *here* uses SMS, and few use alternatives like Signal.
*ROTFLSTC*
Like I phoned the other day an electrician, he said he would send
someone, and that someone "phoned" me using wasap chat.
Like if I have water leak, and the plumber asks me to send him photos
over wasap.
Both extremely unprofessional and there are not as many WA-user to force clients into such a teenager- and houswife-tool.
Like people asking me to send them the invoices over wasap, not email (I tried email).
You are unprofessional as well.
Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
Am 22.01.24 um 09:33 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2024-01-21 19:05, Richmond wrote:
Frankie <frankie@nospam.usa> writes:
On 21/1/2024, Richmond wrote:
When you install whatsapp you agree to giving it your contacts list as >>>>>> far as I remember.
Since when does whatsapp _require_ your contacts list?
Since when does anyone require whatsapp?
Since probably everybody *here* has it, and basically nobody *here* uses >>> SMS, and few use alternatives like Signal.
*ROTFLSTC*
Like I phoned the other day an electrician, he said he would send
someone, and that someone "phoned" me using wasap chat.
Like if I have water leak, and the plumber asks me to send him photos
over wasap.
Both extremely unprofessional and there are not as many WA-user to force
clients into such a teenager- and houswife-tool.
<barf!>
"not as many WA-user"!?
Well, 75% [1] for our country. That's an awful lot of "teenagers" and "housewifes". And that's 75% of the *total* population, including
anything from babies to very old people.
But then, we aren't influenced by some silly Swiss guy who thinks he
knows it all and knows best.
<nightmare alert!>
For Switzerland, it's even a bit higher at 76% [3]!
And when talking about penetration rate at 95.9% [5] for Switzerland
(ours is a measly 92.9%), I doubt you'll sleep at all tonight.
Like people asking me to send them the invoices over wasap, not email (I >>> tried email).
You are unprofessional as well.
Tell that to - for example - the Dutch railways (NS). They use -
amongst others - it for the *safety* of their passengers. Figure *them* apples (oops!)!
Or better yet, stop posting nonsense like this, which only makes *you* look silly, to put it mildly.
[1] 13.3 million [2], for a population of 18 million (Wikipedia).
[2] Two (Dutch) references which show similar numbers: <https://www.1folders.nl/blog/aantal-whatsapp-gebruikers-nederland-321> <https://www.marketingfacts.nl/berichten/social-media-in-nederland-2022/>
See also [4].
[3] 6.8 million [4], for a population of 8.9 million (Wikipedia).
[4] <https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/whatsapp-users-by-country>
[5] <https://www.doofinder.com/en/statistics/who-uses-whatsapp-the-most>
and GDPR doesn't apply to individuals.
Frankie <frankie@nospam.usa> writes:
On 21/1/2024, Richmond wrote:
When you install whatsapp you agree to giving it your contacts list as
far as I remember.
Since when does whatsapp _require_ your contacts list?
Since when does anyone require whatsapp?
On 21.01.24 19:05, Richmond wrote:
Frankie <frankie@nospam.usa> writes:
On 21/1/2024, Richmond wrote:
When you install whatsapp you agree to giving it your contacts list as >>>> far as I remember.
Since when does whatsapp _require_ your contacts list?
Since when does anyone require whatsapp?
Nobody needs Whats App at all.
Certainly not for communication with professional companies and authorities.
On 2024-01-23 10:56, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
On 21.01.24 19:05, Richmond wrote:
Frankie <frankie@nospam.usa> writes:
On 21/1/2024, Richmond wrote:
When you install whatsapp you agree to giving it your contacts list as >>>>> far as I remember.
Since when does whatsapp _require_ your contacts list?
Since when does anyone require whatsapp?
Nobody needs Whats App at all.
Certainly not for communication with professional companies and authorities.
Already debunked.
On 21.01.24 19:05, Richmond wrote:
Frankie <frankie@nospam.usa> writes:
On 21/1/2024, Richmond wrote:
When you install whatsapp you agree to giving it your contacts list as >>>> far as I remember.
Since when does whatsapp _require_ your contacts list?
Since when does anyone require whatsapp?
Nobody needs Whats App at all.
Certainly not for communication with professional companies and authorities.
One shirt, one pair of pants, and some shoes. That's all people need.
In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 23 Jan 2024 10:56:04 +0100, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
On 21.01.24 19:05, Richmond wrote:
Frankie <frankie@nospam.usa> writes:
On 21/1/2024, Richmond wrote:
When you install whatsapp you agree to giving it your contacts list as >>>>> far as I remember.
Since when does whatsapp _require_ your contacts list?
Since when does anyone require whatsapp?
Nobody needs Whats App at all.
Nobody needs a cellphone either. Or a credit card, or a car, or
central heating, or most of the clothes people own. One shirt, one pair
of pants, and some shoes. That's all people need.
On 2024-01-17 17:56, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
On 17.01.24 14:41, s|b wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:29:13 +0100, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
And everyone in the contacts - if they like it or not - is exposed to
this criminal gang. That is why European companies forbid the use of WA >>>> on company phones.
They do? Which ones?
All. Otherwise they are in breach of the GDPR. Can be extremely
expensive and painful. Hence my connotation that *WA is for housewifes
and teenagers*. And forget this bullshit about E2E-encryption.
False.
I know people on important technology companies, with company phones,
and using wasap.
On 17.01.24 21:53, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-01-17 17:56, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
On 17.01.24 14:41, s|b wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:29:13 +0100, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
And everyone in the contacts - if they like it or not - is exposed to >>>> this criminal gang. That is why European companies forbid the use of WA >>>> on company phones.
They do? Which ones?
All. Otherwise they are in breach of the GDPR. Can be extremely
expensive and painful. Hence my connotation that *WA is for housewifes
and teenagers*. And forget this bullshit about E2E-encryption.
False.
I know people on important technology companies, with company phones,
and using wasap.
Look what happens if WA is used beyond the housewife- and teenager-domains:
https://www.thenational.scot/news/24069235.nicola-sturgeon-whatsapps-scottish-government-policy-explained/
On 2024-01-31 17:03, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
On 17.01.24 21:53, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-01-17 17:56, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
On 17.01.24 14:41, s|b wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:29:13 +0100, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
And everyone in the contacts - if they like it or not - is exposed to >>>>>> this criminal gang. That is why European companies forbid the use of WA >>>>>> on company phones.
They do? Which ones?
All. Otherwise they are in breach of the GDPR. Can be extremely
expensive and painful. Hence my connotation that *WA is for housewifes >>>> and teenagers*. And forget this bullshit about E2E-encryption.
False.
I know people on important technology companies, with company phones,
and using wasap.
Look what happens if WA is used beyond the housewife- and teenager-domains: >>
https://www.thenational.scot/news/24069235.nicola-sturgeon-whatsapps-scottish-government-policy-explained/
Exactly what is it there that you want to point out?
I see nothing in there talking of limiting the use of WhatsApp in
government. They only talk about how to archive, or delete, the
conversations _outside_ of the WhatsApp servers and on phones.
On 17.01.24 21:53, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-01-17 17:56, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
On 17.01.24 14:41, s|b wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:29:13 +0100, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
And everyone in the contacts - if they like it or not - is exposed to >>>>> this criminal gang. That is why European companies forbid the use of WA >>>>> on company phones.
They do? Which ones?
All. Otherwise they are in breach of the GDPR. Can be extremely
expensive and painful. Hence my connotation that *WA is for housewifes
and teenagers*. And forget this bullshit about E2E-encryption.
False.
I know people on important technology companies, with company phones,
and using wasap.
Look what happens if WA is used beyond the housewife- and teenager-domains:
https://www.thenational.scot/news/24069235.nicola-sturgeon-whatsapps-scottish-government-policy-explained/
Am 31.01.24 um 18:23 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
On 2024-01-31 17:03, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
On 17.01.24 21:53, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-01-17 17:56, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
On 17.01.24 14:41, s|b wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:29:13 +0100, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
And everyone in the contacts - if they like it or not - is exposed to >>>>>> this criminal gang. That is why European companies forbid the use of WA
on company phones.
They do? Which ones?
All. Otherwise they are in breach of the GDPR. Can be extremely
expensive and painful. Hence my connotation that *WA is for housewifes >>>> and teenagers*. And forget this bullshit about E2E-encryption.
False.
I know people on important technology companies, with company phones,
and using wasap.
Look what happens if WA is used beyond the housewife- and teenager-domains:
https://www.thenational.scot/news/24069235.nicola-sturgeon-whatsapps-scottish-government-policy-explained/
Exactly what is it there that you want to point out?
I see nothing in there talking of limiting the use of WhatsApp in government. They only talk about how to archive, or delete, the conversations _outside_ of the WhatsApp servers and on phones.
If you do not see what the issue is then any discussion about serious computing with you is useless.
The issue: Total noncompliance with rules and regulations concerning traceability and storage.
The issue: Total noncompliance with rules and regulations concerning
traceability and storage.
Exactly! Like Carlos and I said, nothing to do with WhatsApp itself.
| Sysop: | Keyop |
|---|---|
| Location: | Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK |
| Users: | 297 |
| Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
| Uptime: | 06:27:11 |
| Calls: | 6,666 |
| Files: | 12,213 |
| Messages: | 5,336,026 |