How is it the phone can show 5 bars, but some of the apps like whatsapp
say it's not connected to the net?
micky wrote:
How is it the phone can show 5 bars, but some of the apps like whatsapp
say it's not connected to the net?
Problem with roaming?
How is it the phone can show 5 bars, but some of the apps like whatsapp
say it's not connected to the net? This happened today, nothing needing
the net worked, even though I had 5 bars, until I drove about 4 miles
back to Esquipulas, a small town in SE Guatemala. (Their big festival
is today, January 15, but I was only there yesterday).
Maybe related: I often listen to the news, MSNBC usually which I don't recommend but have to tell you which app I use, and I'm pretty sure it buffers the signal data so that the sound continues 5 or 10 minutes
after I no longer am receiving the signal**. Is that correct?
Does the amount of buffered time increase if you bought a phone with a
lot of RAM? Or if the app knows there is more unused RAM than at some
other time?
Or do they generally just keep the same amount in the buffer despite
other things that vary?
**Another reason I think that the signal data is greatly buffered is
that I can listen to the web-radio almost everywhere I've been, some
pretty rural locations, and it's hard to believe there are so many cell towers where so few people live.
How is it the phone can show 5 bars
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
micky wrote:
How is it the phone can show 5 bars, but some of the apps like whatsapp
say it's not connected to the net?
Problem with roaming?
Micky say he is using Tigo. Not sure what web site he was given. The
one I found is:
https://www.tigo.com.gt/prepago/paquetigos
Since he got cellular data when he moved to another area, could be due
to roaming service is not included in his current plan. Click on
Roaming. Looks like it isn't included unless you buy it. I didn't
spend much time digging through the web site to see what combo plans
they offer.
micky wrote:
How is it the phone can show 5 bars
I always get confused which Lilliputian status icon is for the Wi-Fi and >which is for the cellular data. Are the bars for the Wi-Fi or roaming?
micky wrote:
How is it the phone can show 5 bars
I always get confused which Lilliputian status icon is for the Wi-Fi and which is for the cellular data. Are the bars for the Wi-Fi or roaming?
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
micky wrote:
How is it the phone can show 5 bars, but some of the apps like whatsapp >>>> say it's not connected to the net?
Problem with roaming?
I don't think so. Tigo is for all of Guatemala. Today I'm going ...
into Honduras. If you hadn't said this I wouldn't have thought to
see how it works there.
Everything else was in Guatemala.
https://www.tigo.com.gt/prepago/paquetigos
Interesting. At the top are monthly plansm but the 3rd row, third
choice is mine. 99 Quetzals is about $13.
I bought a month and 10gigs. Were I to need more it's for sale all
over, at gas stations, grocery stores....
Since he got cellular data when he moved to another area, could be
due to roaming service is not included in his current plan. Click
on Roaming. Looks like it isn't included unless you buy it. I
didn't
I think the woman in the Tigo store looked at roaming. I should have
looked over her shoulder from the beginning. She didn't object when I
did.
In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 14 Jan 2024 19:34:11 +0530, Indira <indira@ghandi.net> wrote:
micky wrote:
How is it the phone can show 5 bars
I always get confused which Lilliputian status icon is for the Wi-Fi and
which is for the cellular data. Are the bars for the Wi-Fi or roaming?
Bars are for data. I guess I should call it roaming to distinguish from wifi, but it's for data even when your sitting in your living room. I
guess some homebodies don't roam far.
The concentric quarter circles are for wifi.
In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 14 Jan 2024 04:51:18 -0600, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
one I found is:
https://www.tigo.com.gt/prepago/paquetigos
Interesting. At the top are monthly plansm but the 3rd row, third
choice is mine. 99 Quetzals is about $13.
It includes
"Icono de Check (meaning there is a green check mark), Tigo Llamadas a
Guate y USA "
I bought a month and 10gigs. Were I to need more it's for sale all
over, at gas stations, grocery stores....
Since he got cellular data when he moved to another area, could be due
to roaming service is not included in his current plan. Click on
Roaming. Looks like it isn't included unless you buy it. I didn't
I think the woman in the Tigo store looked at roaming. I should have
looked over her shoulder from the beginning. She didn't object when I
did.
spend much time digging through the web site to see what combo plans
they offer.
Nothing here about only part of the country. That's why I got Tigo,
because 2 or 3 people said it was better than Claro for outside the main cities. I told them where I was going and they said nothing about
needing any roaming. (Trip advisor.)
Internet
Icono de Check, Tigo
10 GB
Icono para telefonÃa Voz
Icono de Check, Tigo
Llamadas a Guate y USA
ic-movil-sms SMS
Icono de Check, Tigo
SMS a Guate y USA
Incluye:
Icono de Whatsapp, Tigo
Icono de Instagram, Tigo
Icono de Tik tok, Tigo
TikTok
gt-icon-facebook-video-24x24
Facebook Video
gt-icon-apps-24x24
Tigo Sports
Icono de Check, Tigo
Juegos: Free Fire
Vigencia: 1 mes
On 14.01.24 15:04, Indira wrote:
micky wrote:
How is it the phone can show 5 bars
I always get confused which Lilliputian status icon is for the Wi-Fi and
which is for the cellular data. Are the bars for the Wi-Fi or roaming?
Hi Arlen.
Indira <indira@ghandi.net> wrote:
micky wrote:
How is it the phone can show 5 bars
I always get confused which Lilliputian status icon is for the Wi-Fi
and which is for the cellular data. Are the bars for the Wi-Fi or
roaming?
Bars are for data. I guess I should call it roaming to distinguish
from wifi, but it's for data even when your sitting in your living
room. I guess some homebodies don't roam far.
The concentric quarter circles are for wifi.
Have you checked the RF bands of your phone against those Tigo supports?
Andy Burns wrote:
Problem with roaming?
I don't think so. Tigo is for all of Guatemala.
micky wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
Problem with roaming?
I don't think so. Tigo is for all of Guatemala.
Sorry, though you were using your USA SIM.
Now I've spent 52 minutes just trying to connect
On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 21:53:53 -0500, micky wrote:
Now I've spent 52 minutes just trying to connect
How many decibels of cellular signal strength do you have on the phone?
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 15 Jan 2024 17:55:39 +0000, Andy Burns ><usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
micky wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
Problem with roaming?
I don't think so. Tigo is for all of Guatemala.
Sorry, though you were using your USA SIM.
No problem.
Today the problems got worse.
Tried to make video call to US. Completed 3 times but closed
immediately.
Audio call would not work.
Translate would not work.
Navigation would not work.
Finally thought to look at my texts. 6:53 this morning a text that says
I've run out of days or minutes.
Yes, the 3 gigs I bought last Sunday for a week are expired, but 3 hours >earlier I bought 10gigs for a month. I wondered if they would,
propperly, use up the one-week amount before starting on the one-month >amount, and they did, but they never gave me credit for the one month,
though I got a text saying I had it.
Now I've spent 52 minutes just trying to connect with their bot.
They made me update Whatsapp but the update "has failed. An error in >statallation. See log" but the log means nothing to me.
Leaving the PC and back to the phone to complain.
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 15 Jan 2024 21:53:53 -0500, micky ><NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 15 Jan 2024 17:55:39 +0000, Andy Burns >><usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
micky wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
Problem with roaming?
I don't think so. Tigo is for all of Guatemala.
Sorry, though you were using your USA SIM.
No problem.
Today the problems got worse.
Tried to make video call to US. Completed 3 times but closed
immediately.
Audio call would not work.
Translate would not work.
Navigation would not work.
Finally thought to look at my texts. 6:53 this morning a text that says >>I've run out of days or minutes.
Yes, the 3 gigs I bought last Sunday for a week are expired, but 3 hours >>earlier I bought 10gigs for a month. I wondered if they would,
propperly, use up the one-week amount before starting on the one-month >>amount, and they did, but they never gave me credit for the one month, >>though I got a text saying I had it.
Now I've spent 52 minutes just trying to connect with their bot.
They made me update Whatsapp but the update "has failed. An error in >>statallation. See log" but the log means nothing to me.
Leaving the PC and back to the phone to complain.
Managed to stay on the PC and use Whatsapp for web. I prefer the pc to
the phone because the keyboard is better.
After answering the bots questions and saying none of the suggestions
worked, I got a person (text chatting only) and he claimed I'd used up
my data, even though I've never used 3gigs in one week in my life, I
think, and certainly when I only have about 45 minutes a night for the
PC. Well I did watch about 10 minutes of videos and do about 2 hours of >video phone calling
How much would that use?
but they never notified me when the first 10gig package expired,
because they never activated it.
Yeah here, at 7:30 this moring, they texted that I had consumed my 3.3gb
7 day packet, but nowhere did it ever say I'd consumed my 10gb one month >packet, and when I pointed that out , he wrote it out and sent it to me.
What a jackass, and he's probably following company rules.
It would take him 6 minutes or more to get back to me, but when I took 3 >minutes to reply and translate, he was already saying So long.
Stick to Claro in Guatemala and avoid Tigo.
What's ironic is that I have to go find a place to buy a claro card
(only $1.30 for the sim) and some minutes, when I'm supposed to take a
boat trip at 9:20 tomorrow morning, or I can buy more tigo time without >leaving my chair. I'm not going to cut off my nose to spite my face,
so i guess I'll buy 2 weeks of the disgusting tigo.
How much can you expect to use during a video call though?
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
How much can you expect to use during a video call though?
Your phone doesn't have a data manager to show you the usage of mobile
and wifi usage? For my phone (LG V20), it's under Android settings -> >Network -> Data Manager.
My aunt had setup a web cam in her home to watch her sister (my mom)
while she was away. She would watch the web cam to make sure her sister
was okay. She sucked down all her cellular data quota in a couple days
(she uses Tracfone which has a data quota, not unlimited like other
plans). Was easy to discover what had eaten all her data quota by going
into the data manager to see how much bandwidth was consumed by which
apps.
In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 16 Jan 2024 08:42:14 -0600, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
How much can you expect to use during a video call though?
Your phone doesn't have a data manager to show you the usage of mobile
and wifi usage? For my phone (LG V20), it's under Android settings -> >>Network -> Data Manager.
The one that's built in seems to show only today's usage. For me it's
under Connection and Sharing, Data Usage, and it says the same thing it
said around noon today, 408MB for Whatsapp and 115MB for system apps.
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 15 Jan 2024 23:34:20 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 15 Jan 2024 21:53:53 -0500, micky
<NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 15 Jan 2024 17:55:39 +0000, Andy Burns
<usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
PC. Well I did watch about 10 minutes of videos and do about 2 hours of
video phone calling
How much would that use?
How much can you expect to use during a video call though? For WhatsApp
video calls, you can expect to use around 2.5MB of data per minute. This figure also varies based on the strength of the signal of your
connection.
So to use a gig I would have to make video calls for 400 minutes. 3
hours 40 minutes, in just 7 days when most of these 7 days I didn't do
video callig at all. I didn't come close to 3 hours 40 minutes, did I
Miss A?
And that's only 1 gig. They claim I used 13.
In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 16 Jan 2024 08:42:14 -0600, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
How much can you expect to use during a video call though?
Your phone doesn't have a data manager to show you the usage of mobile
and wifi usage? For my phone (LG V20), it's under Android settings -> >Network -> Data Manager.
The one that's built in seems to show only today's usage. For me it's
under Connection and Sharing, Data Usage, and it says the same thing it
said around noon today, 408MB for Whatsapp and 115MB for system apps.
This is fine because I spent about 30 minutes and then 15 minutes
sending video to my friend in the USA. Take 60/45 and that's about
560MB per hour, which is on the low end of what those quotes said.
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 16 Jan 2024 08:42:14 -0600, VanguardLH
<V@nguard.LH> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
How much can you expect to use during a video call though?
Your phone doesn't have a data manager to show you the usage of mobile
and wifi usage? For my phone (LG V20), it's under Android settings ->
Network -> Data Manager.
The one that's built in seems to show only today's usage. For me it's
under Connection and Sharing, Data Usage, and it says the same thing it
said around noon today, 408MB for Whatsapp and 115MB for system apps.
This is fine because I spent about 30 minutes and then 15 minutes
sending video to my friend in the USA. Take 60/45 and that's about
560MB per hour, which is on the low end of what those quotes said.
If you need to look into data usage, get a real/seperate data manager.
I use, already for a long, long time:
'My Data Manager - Data Usage' ><https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobidia.android.mdm>
It gives insight in data usage for Mobile or/and Wi-Fi or/and Roaming
data. Per Month, Week, Day and hour. And most importantly, it gives per
app data usage, per Month, Week, Day and Hour. You can also set several >alarms for each of the data categories, to warn you *before* you get
into trouble.
My Data Manager, don't leave home without it!
[...]
So to use a gig I would have to make video calls for 400 minutes. 3
hours 40 minutes, in just 7 days when most of these 7 days I didn't do
video callig at all. I didn't come close to 3 hours 40 minutes, did I
Miss A?
Assuming you used whatsapp, there is a setting to conserve bandwidth or
data on calls/video calls.
And that's only 1 gig. They claim I used 13.
They count both up and dn streams.
The ISP web page might have a graphics showing your data usage per day.
After answering the bots questions and saying none of the suggestions >>worked, I got a person (text chatting only) and he claimed I'd used up
my data, even though I've never used 3gigs in one week in my life, I
think, and certainly when I only have about 45 minutes a night for the
PC. Well I did watch about 10 minutes of videos and do about 2 hours of >>video phone calling
How much would that use?
How much can you expect to use during a video call though? For WhatsApp
video calls, you can expect to use around 2.5MB of data per minute. This >figure also varies based on the strength of the signal of your
connection.
So to use a gig I would have to make video calls for 400 minutes. 3
hours 40 minutes, in just 7 days when most of these 7 days
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 15 Jan 2024 23:44:05 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
After answering the bots questions and saying none of the suggestions
worked, I got a person (text chatting only) and he claimed I'd used up
my data, even though I've never used 3gigs in one week in my life, I
think, and certainly when I only have about 45 minutes a night for the
PC. Well I did watch about 10 minutes of videos and do about 2 hours of >>> video phone calling
How much would that use?
How much can you expect to use during a video call though? For WhatsApp
video calls, you can expect to use around 2.5MB of data per minute. This
figure also varies based on the strength of the signal of your
connection.
So to use a gig I would have to make video calls for 400 minutes. 3
hours 40 minutes, in just 7 days when most of these 7 days
Another source:
How much data does a 1 hour WhatsApp video call use?
On average, a video call in WhatsApp can consume around 750MB to 1.3GB
of data per hour for a high-quality video call. This estimate is based
on typical usage and may vary based on factors such as resolution,
network conditions, and any additional data used for messaging and other
app features during the call.
| Sysop: | Keyop |
|---|---|
| Location: | Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK |
| Users: | 297 |
| Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
| Uptime: | 08:48:21 |
| Calls: | 6,666 |
| Files: | 12,213 |
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