• These things are not waterproof, are they?

    From micky@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 13 23:40:15 2024
    I'm at a hotel in SE Guatemala. First fancy place I've staayed at (but
    only $60 for one person), The pool is only 4 or 4.5 feet deep and a guy
    had his phone in the pool, taking pictures I think.

    These things are not waterproof, are they?

    He was alone and could have looked at or taken the same pictures when he
    wasn't in the pool. It was dark out already. I think the guy's a
    fool.

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to micky on Sat Jan 13 23:39:00 2024
    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    I'm at a hotel in SE Guatemala. First fancy place I've staayed at
    (but only $60 for one person), The pool is only 4 or 4.5 feet deep
    and a guy had his phone in the pool, taking pictures I think.

    These things are not waterproof, are they?

    Some phone (just some) are water resistent. The rating on the phone
    tells you how deep and for how long, but just consider as the phone
    getting splashed on a few times. The water resistent phone don't stay resistent when held at their rated depth for too long. IP 68 means the
    phone can survive against dust and up to 30 minutes at 1.5 meters depth
    in water. These have a seal around the case, and means the battery is
    not user serviceable. If you break open the case to replace the battery
    (it is defective, won't charge, low capacity, bulging) then you destroy
    the seal, and the phone is no longer water resistent.

    As is typical of your posts, you don't mention your brand and model of
    phone. Go online to get the specs on your phone to see what is its dust
    and water resistence rating. The makers site may have the manual, and
    the manual might say. Else, you could try gsmarena.com to search on
    your phone to see its specifications. If you don't see the IP xx rating
    then your phone is neither dust nor water resistent. You'll have to get
    a case in which to put the phone, like
    https://www.newegg.com/p/0S9-0CXP-000X7 for the Samsung S23, or cheap
    bags with sealable end, like https://www.newegg.com/p/0S9-04MD-00002?Item=9SIA34AHG16409.

    I forgot I had a non-smart flip phone in the pocket of my swimming
    trunks, went into the hot tub, and the phone was toast. The phone
    functioned, but the screen wouldn't display anything. The rice trick
    didn't work. I don't think it ever works. You can try opening a pouch
    of silica pellets you find inside packaging to absorb water, but you'll
    have to open the case. When I got home, I opened the case, and after a
    week the display was still dead on the phone.

    The sealed phones are water resistent, not waterproof. After long
    enough exposure to water whether submerged or not, water will get
    inside. Supposedly they can be submerged for 30 minutes, or less, for
    about the length of your leg, but these ratings are just that, and don't guarantee your particular phone will measure up. I'm sure if there was
    a rating system, your phone might be rated for how long it could be held
    over the stove burner on high and how far from the flame.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to V@nguard.LH on Sun Jan 14 02:25:06 2024
    In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 13 Jan 2024 23:39:00 -0600, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    I'm at a hotel in SE Guatemala. First fancy place I've staayed at
    (but only $60 for one person), The pool is only 4 or 4.5 feet deep
    and a guy had his phone in the pool, taking pictures I think.

    These things are not waterproof, are they?

    Some phone (just some) are water resistent. The rating on the phone
    tells you how deep and for how long, but just consider as the phone
    getting splashed on a few times. The water resistent phone don't stay >resistent when held at their rated depth for too long. IP 68 means the
    phone can survive against dust and up to 30 minutes at 1.5 meters depth
    in water. These have a seal around the case, and means the battery is
    not user serviceable. If you break open the case to replace the battery
    (it is defective, won't charge, low capacity, bulging) then you destroy
    the seal, and the phone is no longer water resistent.

    As is typical of your posts, you don't mention your brand and model of

    It wasn't my phone. It was some stranger's in the pool. I'm not taking
    *my* phone out in the rain no matter what the maker says is its water resistance.

    phone. Go online to get the specs on your phone to see what is its dust
    and water resistence rating. The makers site may have the manual, and
    the manual might say. Else, you could try gsmarena.com to search on
    your phone to see its specifications. If you don't see the IP xx rating
    then your phone is neither dust nor water resistent. You'll have to get
    a case in which to put the phone, like >https://www.newegg.com/p/0S9-0CXP-000X7 for the Samsung S23, or cheap
    bags with sealable end, like >https://www.newegg.com/p/0S9-04MD-00002?Item=9SIA34AHG16409.

    I forgot I had a non-smart flip phone in the pocket of my swimming
    trunks, went into the hot tub, and the phone was toast. The phone >functioned, but the screen wouldn't display anything. The rice trick
    didn't work. I don't think it ever works. You can try opening a pouch
    of silica pellets you find inside packaging to absorb water, but you'll

    I used to save all those bags. Thought when I had enough I could dry
    out a flooded house.

    have to open the case. When I got home, I opened the case, and after a
    week the display was still dead on the phone.

    The sealed phones are water resistent, not waterproof. After long
    enough exposure to water whether submerged or not, water will get
    inside. Supposedly they can be submerged for 30 minutes, or less, for
    about the length of your leg, but these ratings are just that, and don't >guarantee your particular phone will measure up. I'm sure if there was
    a rating system, your phone might be rated for how long it could be held
    over the stove burner on high and how far from the flame.

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to micky on Sun Jan 14 04:25:36 2024
    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 13 Jan 2024 23:39:00 -0600, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    The pool is only 4 or 4.5 feet deep and a guy had his phone in the
    pool, taking pictures I think.

    These things are not waterproof, are they?

    Some phone (just some) are water resistent. The rating on the phone
    tells you how deep and for how long, but just consider as the phone
    getting splashed on a few times. The water resistent phone don't
    stay resistent when held at their rated depth for too long. IP 68
    means the phone can survive against dust and up to 30 minutes at 1.5
    meters depth in water. These have a seal around the case, and means
    the battery is not user serviceable. If you break open the case to
    replace the battery (it is defective, won't charge, low capacity,
    bulging) then you destroy the seal, and the phone is no longer water
    resistent.

    As is typical of your posts, you don't mention your brand and model
    of

    It wasn't my phone. It was some stranger's in the pool. I'm not taking
    *my* phone out in the rain no matter what the maker says is its water resistance.

    So, now instead of asking about yourself, we have to field inquiries
    about others you observe? You asked about "these things" being
    waterproof which implies you wanted to know about your own thing.

    ... cheap bags with sealable end, like
    https://www.newegg.com/p/0S9-04MD-00002?Item=9SIA34AHG16409.

    I used to save all those bags. Thought when I had enough I could dry
    out a flooded house.

    You have lots of those bags to save? I don't have "all those bags",
    just the 2 that I bought. They don't come with phones.

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to micky on Sun Jan 14 14:04:03 2024
    On 2024-01-14 05:40, micky wrote:
    I'm at a hotel in SE Guatemala. First fancy place I've staayed at (but
    only $60 for one person), The pool is only 4 or 4.5 feet deep and a guy
    had his phone in the pool, taking pictures I think.

    These things are not waterproof, are they?

    Some are, to different degrees.

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Arno Welzel@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 14 13:37:22 2024
    micky, 2024-01-14 05:40:

    I'm at a hotel in SE Guatemala. First fancy place I've staayed at (but
    only $60 for one person), The pool is only 4 or 4.5 feet deep and a guy
    had his phone in the pool, taking pictures I think.

    These things are not waterproof, are they?

    There are many waterproof phones.

    --
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    https://arnowelzel.de

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to V@nguard.LH on Sun Jan 14 09:10:33 2024
    In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 14 Jan 2024 04:25:36 -0600, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 13 Jan 2024 23:39:00 -0600, VanguardLH
    <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    The pool is only 4 or 4.5 feet deep and a guy had his phone in the
    pool, taking pictures I think.

    These things are not waterproof, are they?

    Some phone (just some) are water resistent. The rating on the phone
    tells you how deep and for how long, but just consider as the phone
    getting splashed on a few times. The water resistent phone don't
    stay resistent when held at their rated depth for too long. IP 68
    means the phone can survive against dust and up to 30 minutes at 1.5
    meters depth in water. These have a seal around the case, and means
    the battery is not user serviceable. If you break open the case to
    replace the battery (it is defective, won't charge, low capacity,
    bulging) then you destroy the seal, and the phone is no longer water
    resistent.

    As is typical of your posts, you don't mention your brand and model
    of

    It wasn't my phone. It was some stranger's in the pool. I'm not taking
    *my* phone out in the rain no matter what the maker says is its water
    resistance.

    So, now instead of asking about yourself, we have to field inquiries
    about others you observe? You asked about "these things" being
    waterproof which implies you wanted to know about your own thing.

    Implies that to you. I don't think so. I said it was about some guy in
    the pool and I thought he was a fool. I was asking if *he* was a fool.

    Stop giving me a hard time. You're always giving me a hard time.

    ... cheap bags with sealable end, like
    https://www.newegg.com/p/0S9-04MD-00002?Item=9SIA34AHG16409.

    I used to save all those bags. Thought when I had enough I could dry
    out a flooded house.

    You have lots of those bags to save? I don't have "all those bags",
    just the 2 that I bought. They don't come with phones.

    And a lot of other things. Just recently they came with covid
    self-tests.

    BTW, I bought 2 self-tests in Guat, and the instructions were in
    Japanese. There was a QR code and I thought, Aha! But the video was in Japanese too. The tests were made in S. Korea. There were drawings and graphics, but no English or Spanish. (Fortunately I'd taken tests I
    got in the USA and I remembered, and still had, the instructions that
    came with them. They were in English. )

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to usenet@arnowelzel.de on Sun Jan 14 09:11:31 2024
    In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 14 Jan 2024 13:37:22 +0100, Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:

    micky, 2024-01-14 05:40:

    I'm at a hotel in SE Guatemala. First fancy place I've staayed at (but
    only $60 for one person), The pool is only 4 or 4.5 feet deep and a guy
    had his phone in the pool, taking pictures I think.

    These things are not waterproof, are they?

    There are many waterproof phones.

    Maybe he had one. It's bad to think there are a lot of fools so it's
    good to think maybe he's not one.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to micky on Sun Jan 14 17:27:30 2024
    On 14.01.24 05:40, micky wrote:
    I'm at a hotel in SE Guatemala. First fancy place I've staayed at (but
    only $60 for one person), The pool is only 4 or 4.5 feet deep and a guy
    had his phone in the pool, taking pictures I think.

    These things are not waterproof, are they?

    Good ones are.

    He was alone and could have looked at or taken the same pictures when he wasn't in the pool. It was dark out already. I think the guy's a
    fool.

    None of your business and ceratinly nothing for this NG.

    *You are completely OT*, *Troll*

    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to micky on Sun Jan 14 20:04:31 2024
    On 2024-01-14 15:10, micky wrote:
    In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 14 Jan 2024 04:25:36 -0600, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 13 Jan 2024 23:39:00 -0600, VanguardLH
    <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    The pool is only 4 or 4.5 feet deep and a guy had his phone in the
    pool, taking pictures I think.

    These things are not waterproof, are they?

    Some phone (just some) are water resistent. The rating on the phone
    tells you how deep and for how long, but just consider as the phone
    getting splashed on a few times. The water resistent phone don't
    stay resistent when held at their rated depth for too long. IP 68
    means the phone can survive against dust and up to 30 minutes at 1.5
    meters depth in water. These have a seal around the case, and means
    the battery is not user serviceable. If you break open the case to
    replace the battery (it is defective, won't charge, low capacity,
    bulging) then you destroy the seal, and the phone is no longer water
    resistent.

    As is typical of your posts, you don't mention your brand and model
    of

    It wasn't my phone. It was some stranger's in the pool. I'm not taking
    *my* phone out in the rain no matter what the maker says is its water
    resistance.

    So, now instead of asking about yourself, we have to field inquiries
    about others you observe? You asked about "these things" being
    waterproof which implies you wanted to know about your own thing.

    Implies that to you. I don't think so. I said it was about some guy in
    the pool and I thought he was a fool. I was asking if *he* was a fool.

    Stop giving me a hard time. You're always giving me a hard time.

    ... cheap bags with sealable end, like
    https://www.newegg.com/p/0S9-04MD-00002?Item=9SIA34AHG16409.

    I used to save all those bags. Thought when I had enough I could dry
    out a flooded house.

    You have lots of those bags to save? I don't have "all those bags",
    just the 2 that I bought. They don't come with phones.

    And a lot of other things. Just recently they came with covid
    self-tests.

    BTW, I bought 2 self-tests in Guat, and the instructions were in
    Japanese. There was a QR code and I thought, Aha! But the video was in Japanese too. The tests were made in S. Korea. There were drawings and graphics, but no English or Spanish. (Fortunately I'd taken tests I
    got in the USA and I remembered, and still had, the instructions that
    came with them. They were in English. )

    I think the instructions are the same for all tests; the variance are in
    the number of seconds or minutes for each operation, the number of
    drops, the number of twists of the probe in your nose...

    But some include a mouth swab. Some you have to break the probe stick
    inside the jar.

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    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to micky on Sun Jan 14 14:40:37 2024
    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    And a lot of other things. Just recently they came with covid
    self-tests.

    There's nothing that comes part of product packaging that I would trust
    to protect my phone. If all you care about is rain or light splashing,
    get a ziplock bag to carry in your pocket (but do NOT fold across the
    ziplock seal). The ones with a bracket on the send to prevent the seal
    from opening are just for rain protection, not immersion regardless of
    their claim. Cases designed for using a phone underwater are far more expensive, like when scuba or skin diving, but then get an underwater
    camera designed for that use.

    For the joker bouncing in the pool, but not submerging his camera, might
    be okay if his phone is water resistent (IP68 rating), or if he used a
    ziplock bag, or a cheap phone bag. The IP ratings are for when you drop
    your phone into a toilet, sink, or washbasin, not to go scuba diving
    with it. I have to wonder just what photos were needed while splashing
    in a pool that couldn't be taken sitting poolside.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to hugybear@gmx.net on Tue Jan 16 18:10:39 2024
    In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 14 Jan 2024 17:27:30 +0100, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

    On 14.01.24 05:40, micky wrote:
    I'm at a hotel in SE Guatemala. First fancy place I've staayed at (but
    only $60 for one person), The pool is only 4 or 4.5 feet deep and a guy
    had his phone in the pool, taking pictures I think.

    These things are not waterproof, are they?

    Good ones are.

    He was alone and could have looked at or taken the same pictures when he
    wasn't in the pool. It was dark out already. I think the guy's a
    fool.

    None of your business and ceratinly nothing for this NG.

    *You are completely OT*, *Troll*

    I'm glad I have you to keep me on the right path.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to micky on Wed Jan 17 02:57:31 2024
    On 17.01.24 00:10, micky wrote:
    In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 14 Jan 2024 17:27:30 +0100, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

    On 14.01.24 05:40, micky wrote:
    I'm at a hotel in SE Guatemala. First fancy place I've staayed at (but
    only $60 for one person), The pool is only 4 or 4.5 feet deep and a guy >>> had his phone in the pool, taking pictures I think.

    These things are not waterproof, are they?

    Good ones are.

    He was alone and could have looked at or taken the same pictures when he >>> wasn't in the pool. It was dark out already. I think the guy's a
    fool.

    None of your business and ceratinly nothing for this NG.

    *You are completely OT*, *Troll*

    I'm glad I have you to keep me on the right path.

    Your welcome.

    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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