Do you think this is the internet, or is it my sister-in-law actually blocking me.
In guatemala, not enough access to answer posts that were in reply to
me, but new problem arises. Trying to text my sister in law, long text,
but I get
"Free Msg: Unable to send message. Message blocking is active"
Same message 4 times in a row from just one long text of mine.
Do you think this is the internet, or is it my sister-in-law actually blocking me. Is this the terminology if it were my sil?
Staying in a 40-dollar hotel in the redlight district, but their free-included internet has worked fine. No problems until now.
(I still don't have a sim so I have to do everything from the hotel or
other wifi places.)
In guatemala, not enough access to answer posts that were in reply to
me, but new problem arises. Trying to text my sister in law, long text,
but I get
"Free Msg: Unable to send message. Message blocking is active"
Same message 4 times in a row from just one long text of mine.
Do you think this is the internet, or is it my sister-in-law actually blocking me. Is this the terminology if it were my sil?
Staying in a 40-dollar hotel in the redlight district, but their free-included internet has worked fine. No problems until now.
(I still don't have a sim so I have to do everything from the hotel or
other wifi places.)
In guatemala, not enough access to answer posts that were in reply to
me, but new problem arises. Trying to text my sister in law, long text,
but I get
"Free Msg: Unable to send message. Message blocking is active"
Same message 4 times in a row from just one long text of mine.
Do you think this is the internet, or is it my sister-in-law actually blocking me. Is this the terminology if it were my sil?
Staying in a 40-dollar hotel in the redlight district, but their free-included internet has worked fine. No problems until now.
(I still don't have a sim so I have to do everything from the hotel or
other wifi places.)
micky wrote:
In guatemala, not enough access to answer posts that were in reply to
me, but new problem arises. Trying to text my sister in law, long text,
but I get
"Free Msg: Unable to send message. Message blocking is active"
Same message 4 times in a row from just one long text of mine.
Do you think this is the internet, or is it my sister-in-law actually blocking me. Is this the terminology if it were my sil?
Staying in a 40-dollar hotel in the redlight district, but their free-included internet has worked fine. No problems until now.
(I still don't have a sim so I have to do everything from the hotel or other wifi places.)
Don't blame your sister.
That block comes from your phone company; too many texts sent in too
short a time.
Who do you use? ATT, Verizon, T-Mobile, Google Fi?
In a while they'll raise the block.
(I still don't have a sim so I have to do everything from the hotel or other wifi places.)
Trying to text my sister in law, long text,
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
In guatemala, not enough access to answer posts that were in reply to
me, but new problem arises. Trying to text my sister in law, long text,
but I get
"Free Msg: Unable to send message. Message blocking is active"
Same message 4 times in a row from just one long text of mine.
Do you think this is the internet, or is it my sister-in-law actually
blocking me. Is this the terminology if it were my sil?
Staying in a 40-dollar hotel in the redlight district, but their
free-included internet has worked fine. No problems until now.
(I still don't have a sim so I have to do everything from the hotel or
other wifi places.)
Which cell carrier are you using?
On 1/7/24 7:46 AM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:[...]
Am 07.01.24 um 13:53 schrieb micky:
(I still don't have a sim so I have to do everything from the hotel or
other wifi places.)
Holy shit: Without a SIM you can't text. Without a SIM you have no
access to most messengers because they identify you via the phone
number. The only option is e-mail.
Google chat. It was nicer as 'Hangouts' but still works.
On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 06:48:41 -0700, Charlie wrote:
I think messaging is fire & forget so I don't think your phone would know
that the message wasn't received on the other end.
I have unknowingly sent messages to landlines, and I find out that
I've done it because I get back a message that my text couldn't be
delivered. It's been a while since I've seen the message, so I can't
tell you the wording, but it was clear enough that I knew I had sent
to a number that couldn't receive texts -- as opposed to a number
that had blocked me, where I assume I would get nothing back.
I think messaging is fire & forget so I don't think your phone would know that the message wasn't received on the other end.
Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
micky wrote:
In guatemala, not enough access to answer posts that were in reply to
me, but new problem arises. Trying to text my sister in law, long text,
but I get
"Free Msg: Unable to send message. Message blocking is active"
Same message 4 times in a row from just one long text of mine.
Do you think this is the internet, or is it my sister-in-law actually
blocking me. Is this the terminology if it were my sil?
Staying in a 40-dollar hotel in the redlight district, but their
free-included internet has worked fine. No problems until now.
(I still don't have a sim so I have to do everything from the hotel or
other wifi places.)
Don't blame your sister.
That block comes from your phone company; too many texts sent in too
short a time.
Who do you use? ATT, Verizon, T-Mobile, Google Fi?
In a while they'll raise the block.
It's confusing. He says:
(I still don't have a sim so I have to do everything from the hotel or
other wifi places.)
So it seems that he's not using a mobile provider. But he also says:
Trying to text my sister in law, long text,
Which in US-parlance normally means SMS messages. But is he sending
SMS messages over *Wi-Fi*? Yes, he could do that with Wi-Fi calling, but >earlier he said that Wi-Fi calling did not work.
Bottom line: Only micky know what the heck he's doing.
micky wrote:
In guatemala, not enough access to answer posts that were in reply to
me, but new problem arises. Trying to text my sister in law, long text,
but I get
"Free Msg: Unable to send message. Message blocking is active"
Same message 4 times in a row from just one long text of mine.
Do you think this is the internet, or is it my sister-in-law actually
blocking me. Is this the terminology if it were my sil?
Staying in a 40-dollar hotel in the redlight district, but their
free-included internet has worked fine. No problems until now.
(I still don't have a sim so I have to do everything from the hotel or
other wifi places.)
Don't blame your sister.
That block comes from your phone company; too many texts sent in too
short a time.
Who do you use? ATT, Verizon, T-Mobile, Google Fi?
In a while they'll raise the block.
Ed
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
In guatemala, not enough access to answer posts that were in reply to
me, but new problem arises. Trying to text my sister in law, long text,
but I get
"Free Msg: Unable to send message. Message blocking is active"
Same message 4 times in a row from just one long text of mine.
Do you think this is the internet, or is it my sister-in-law actually
blocking me. Is this the terminology if it were my sil?
Staying in a 40-dollar hotel in the redlight district, but their
free-included internet has worked fine. No problems until now.
(I still don't have a sim so I have to do everything from the hotel or
other wifi places.)
Which cell carrier are you using?
Might've you bought a SIM to use just
while in Guatamala?
What is its quota? Unclear if you are still in
Guatamala, or that was irrelevant to this thread, but just stating your >temporary absense here, and you're back in your own country with your
regular unidentified carrier.
Remember when sending long MMS messages that they'll get sliced up into >multiple smaller (160-byte) SMS messages, so what you're sending could
be several times the count you think you're sending. "long" doesn't say
if the messages were all text, you had a lot of attachments (e.g., pics)
that bloated the size of the message mandating slicing into multiple SMS >messages.
The only way I could see you getting that message is not by something
your sister does on her phone, but something she did in her account with
her carrier. She might've added you to a blocking list on her phone,
but perhaps that got uploaded to her carrier to block there. If she
won't accept texts, and won't accept calls, send her an e-mail. Maybe
some other communication venue can reach her instead of getting blocked.
Have you tried to send a short message, so it is just 1 SMS message
(under 160 bytes)? Wait a day (24 hours) after the last blocked report
to see if you got locked out by whomever is currently your carrier for >exceeding their quota, or if you're getting blocked by her carrier.
Are you sure you did not add her to /your/ blocking list? Could be a
local block list on your phone for whatever SMS app you use, or added to
a block list up on your carrier in your account.
https://www.wikihow.com/Message-Blocking-Is-Active
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
Staying in a 40-dollar hotel in the redlight district, but their
free-included internet has worked fine. No problems until now.
(I still don't have a sim so I have to do everything from the hotel or
other wifi places.)
When this happened, I hd no sim. The hotel probably uses Claro /
Guatemala.
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
Staying in a 40-dollar hotel in the redlight district, but their
free-included internet has worked fine. No problems until now.
(I still don't have a sim so I have to do everything from the hotel or >>>> other wifi places.)
When this happened, I hd no sim. The hotel probably uses Claro /
Guatemala.
You are using the hotel's wifi to send texts. Despite getting an
Internet connection via wifi, just whose call service are you using to
make VOIP calls? A wifi connection is just networking. You need to be
using *something* to do VOIP over that Internet connection. Whose VOIP >service are you using over the Internet access you obtain via wi-fi?
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 8 Jan 2024 06:19:20 -0600, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
Staying in a 40-dollar hotel in the redlight district, but their
free-included internet has worked fine. No problems until now.
(I still don't have a sim so I have to do everything from the hotel or >>>>> other wifi places.)
When this happened, I hd no sim. The hotel probably uses Claro /
Guatemala.
You are using the hotel's wifi to send texts. Despite getting an
Internet connection via wifi, just whose call service are you using to
make VOIP calls? A wifi connection is just networking. You need to be >>using *something* to do VOIP over that Internet connection. Whose VOIP >>service are you using over the Internet access you obtain via wi-fi?
Quien sabe? I'm not there anymore so I'll never know.
Unless you mean what part of the phone. The regular text app on the
Xiaomi Redmi phone.
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 8 Jan 2024 06:19:20 -0600, VanguardLH
<V@nguard.LH> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
Staying in a 40-dollar hotel in the redlight district, but their
free-included internet has worked fine. No problems until now.
(I still don't have a sim so I have to do everything from the hotel or >>>>>> other wifi places.)
When this happened, I hd no sim. The hotel probably uses Claro /
Guatemala.
You are using the hotel's wifi to send texts. Despite getting an >>>Internet connection via wifi, just whose call service are you using to >>>make VOIP calls? A wifi connection is just networking. You need to be >>>using *something* to do VOIP over that Internet connection. Whose VOIP >>>service are you using over the Internet access you obtain via wi-fi?
Quien sabe? I'm not there anymore so I'll never know.
Unless you mean what part of the phone. The regular text app on the
Xiaomi Redmi phone.
SMS (texting) requires a cellular carrier service. Apparently you
didn't have cellular when you were in Guatamala, or didn't want to
consume its quota (assuming whomever is your cellular provider doesn't
have unlimited quotas, or limits on roaming, or you got a SIM card local
to the vacation area). You wanted to use wifi, but wifi is just a
networking solution, just like using Ethernet. You got to a network,
but then you need to connect to somewhere, like using a web browser to
visit web sites, or to a VOIP provider to connect via Internet whether
that be via wifi or Ethernet or cellular data. Walking outside your
house to be outdoors does not automatically also put in into and turn on
a car.
Calls, SMS (texting), and data all require you connect to a cellular
carrier. VOIP (Voice Over IP), if you have an app to do it, still
requires you connect to a VOIP provider over the Internet (e.g., I use
Google Voice service and their app on my phone). Perhaps whomever is
your cellular provider also has VOIP service. Even when you use
Whatsapp, that is not direct from phone to phone, but uses the Whatsapp >server to make VOIP calls.
In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 12 Jan 2024 09:11:15 -0600, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 8 Jan 2024 06:19:20 -0600, VanguardLH
<V@nguard.LH> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
Staying in a 40-dollar hotel in the redlight district, but their >>>>>>> free-included internet has worked fine. No problems until now.
(I still don't have a sim so I have to do everything from the hotel or >>>>>>> other wifi places.)
When this happened, I hd no sim. The hotel probably uses Claro /
Guatemala.
You are using the hotel's wifi to send texts. Despite getting an >>>>Internet connection via wifi, just whose call service are you using to >>>>make VOIP calls? A wifi connection is just networking. You need to be >>>>using *something* to do VOIP over that Internet connection. Whose VOIP >>>>service are you using over the Internet access you obtain via wi-fi?
Quien sabe? I'm not there anymore so I'll never know.
Unless you mean what part of the phone. The regular text app on the
Xiaomi Redmi phone.
SMS (texting) requires a cellular carrier service. Apparently you
didn't have cellular when you were in Guatamala, or didn't want to
I didnt' have it yet. People on tripadvisor said it would be easy but
it took me parts of 3 days to get it. I went to about 8 places to try
to get set up. They said any tienda, but I think that's only for recharging. For the sim I had to go to a Tigo store, in the mall. It
was only $1.30, but then I had to go somewhere else for minutes.
Phone calling was enabled by the time I checked, under an hour. But
data didn't work until the next morning, about 18 hours (though I
didn't chekc in the middle of the night) I don't know if it started
working automatically but slowly, or if my chatting the previous night
with Tigo made a difference.
consume its quota (assuming whomever is your cellular provider doesn't
have unlimited quotas, or limits on roaming, or you got a SIM card local
to the vacation area). You wanted to use wifi, but wifi is just a >>networking solution, just like using Ethernet. You got to a network,
but then you need to connect to somewhere, like using a web browser to >>visit web sites, or to a VOIP provider to connect via Internet whether
that be via wifi or Ethernet or cellular data. Walking outside your
house to be outdoors does not automatically also put in into and turn on
a car.
Calls, SMS (texting), and data all require you connect to a cellular >>carrier. VOIP (Voice Over IP), if you have an app to do it, still
requires you connect to a VOIP provider over the Internet (e.g., I use >>Google Voice service and their app on my phone). Perhaps whomever is
your cellular provider also has VOIP service. Even when you use
Whatsapp, that is not direct from phone to phone, but uses the Whatsapp >>server to make VOIP calls.
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 12 Jan 2024 09:11:15 -0600, VanguardLH
<V@nguard.LH> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 8 Jan 2024 06:19:20 -0600, VanguardLH
<V@nguard.LH> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
Staying in a 40-dollar hotel in the redlight district, but their >>>>>>>> free-included internet has worked fine. No problems until now. >>>>>>>>
(I still don't have a sim so I have to do everything from the hotel or >>>>>>>> other wifi places.)
When this happened, I hd no sim. The hotel probably uses Claro /
Guatemala.
You are using the hotel's wifi to send texts. Despite getting an >>>>>Internet connection via wifi, just whose call service are you using to >>>>>make VOIP calls? A wifi connection is just networking. You need to be >>>>>using *something* to do VOIP over that Internet connection. Whose VOIP >>>>>service are you using over the Internet access you obtain via wi-fi?
Quien sabe? I'm not there anymore so I'll never know.
Unless you mean what part of the phone. The regular text app on the
Xiaomi Redmi phone.
SMS (texting) requires a cellular carrier service. Apparently you
didn't have cellular when you were in Guatamala, or didn't want to
I didnt' have it yet. People on tripadvisor said it would be easy but
it took me parts of 3 days to get it. I went to about 8 places to try
to get set up. They said any tienda, but I think that's only for
recharging. For the sim I had to go to a Tigo store, in the mall. It
was only $1.30, but then I had to go somewhere else for minutes.
Phone calling was enabled by the time I checked, under an hour. But
data didn't work until the next morning, about 18 hours (though I
didn't chekc in the middle of the night) I don't know if it started
working automatically but slowly, or if my chatting the previous night
with Tigo made a difference.
consume its quota (assuming whomever is your cellular provider doesn't >>>have unlimited quotas, or limits on roaming, or you got a SIM card local >>>to the vacation area). You wanted to use wifi, but wifi is just a >>>networking solution, just like using Ethernet. You got to a network,
but then you need to connect to somewhere, like using a web browser to >>>visit web sites, or to a VOIP provider to connect via Internet whether >>>that be via wifi or Ethernet or cellular data. Walking outside your >>>house to be outdoors does not automatically also put in into and turn on >>>a car.
Calls, SMS (texting), and data all require you connect to a cellular >>>carrier. VOIP (Voice Over IP), if you have an app to do it, still >>>requires you connect to a VOIP provider over the Internet (e.g., I use >>>Google Voice service and their app on my phone). Perhaps whomever is >>>your cellular provider also has VOIP service. Even when you use >>>Whatsapp, that is not direct from phone to phone, but uses the Whatsapp >>>server to make VOIP calls.
The wifi access at the hotel or elsewhere gives you Internet access, so
you can use Google Maps, web browser, etc (the smart stuff on the
phone). For calling, why not buy a cheap dumb phone sold for use in
that area?
micky wrote:
In guatemala, not enough access to answer posts that were in reply to
me, but new problem arises. Trying to text my sister in law, long text,
but I get
"Free Msg: Unable to send message. Message blocking is active"
Same message 4 times in a row from just one long text of mine.
Do you think this is the internet, or is it my sister-in-law actually
blocking me. Is this the terminology if it were my sil?
Staying in a 40-dollar hotel in the redlight district, but their
free-included internet has worked fine. No problems until now.
(I still don't have a sim so I have to do everything from the hotel or
other wifi places.)
Don't blame your sister.
That block comes from your phone company; too many texts sent in too
short a time.
Who do you use? ATT, Verizon, T-Mobile, Google Fi?
In a while they'll raise the block.
Ed
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