Saw this on the Apple newsgroups. https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/regain-control-of-your-data-in-2024-and-delete-your-digital-history-heres-how-to-do-it/
It looks like you sign up for the Permission Slip service for each email address and then you're presented with companies that collect & sell it. https://permissionslipcr.com/
The sentences that are a little worrisome though are "Permission Slip will ask you a couple of questions that can help companies and data brokers correctly identify you and properly take care of your information. After
you input your personal info the first time, the process for continuing to remove your data is pretty simple. You will just scroll through Permission Slip's suggestions, select companies that might have your info and then delete your account or prohibit the company from using your data."
I guess it's like that Do Not Call registry where you have to tell them who you are in order for them to not sell who you are. I trust CR though.
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 23:26:57 -0500, Mickey D wrote:
Saw this on the Apple newsgroups.
https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/regain-control-of-your-data-in-2024-and-delete-your-digital-history-heres-how-to-do-it/
It looks like you sign up for the Permission Slip service for each email
address and then you're presented with companies that collect & sell it.
https://permissionslipcr.com/
The sentences that are a little worrisome though are "Permission Slip will >> ask you a couple of questions that can help companies and data brokers
correctly identify you and properly take care of your information. After
you input your personal info the first time, the process for continuing to >> remove your data is pretty simple. You will just scroll through Permission >> Slip's suggestions, select companies that might have your info and then
delete your account or prohibit the company from using your data."
I guess it's like that Do Not Call registry where you have to tell them who >> you are in order for them to not sell who you are. I trust CR though.
I tried to sign up (it needs your email and the password must be at least
12 characters and 3 out of 4 of these (upper,lower,number,symbol).
The first question it asks is which state you live in.
Rather than give them the state, which state is the most protective?
What's the best state to give it (so you don't have to give it your state)?
Saw this on the Apple newsgroups. https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/regain-control-of-your-data-in-2024-and-delete-your-digital-history-heres-how-to-do-it/
It looks like you sign up for the Permission Slip service for each email address and then you're presented with companies that collect & sell it. https://permissionslipcr.com/
The sentences that are a little worrisome though are "Permission Slip will ask you a couple of questions that can help companies and data brokers correctly identify you and properly take care of your information. After
you input your personal info the first time, the process for continuing to remove your data is pretty simple. You will just scroll through Permission Slip's suggestions, select companies that might have your info and then delete your account or prohibit the company from using your data."
I guess it's like that Do Not Call registry where you have to tell them who you are in order for them to not sell who you are. I trust CR though.
I wouldn't sign up for anything like that. It's just giving out
dependable personal data to yet one more source, with no
way of knowing what will happen to it. There's no reason to
expect the dataminers will comply. CR isn't going to sue them.
It's not surprising, I suppose, that you saw it in an Apple
group. AppleSeeds trust their overlord with a copy of everything
on their iPhone. No wonder they trust CR to protect them from
bad guys, with no understanding at all of the issue.
According to the webpage they require a cellphone
number. Cellphones have nothing to do with online datamining.
But cellphone numbers are becoming the ultimate ID number.
That aspect alone sounds very creepy to me. Companies can
easily use the CR app to just confirm the quality of their data
on you. Then even if they do delete it, they can just get it back.
If you want privacy then there are ways to do that. Set up
a good HOSTS file.
Don't use services from Google, Apple, Facebook,
etc. Limit scripting where possible. Avoid web browsing on a
cellphone... Even if AcmeData agrees to delete your data, Google
can send them another copy because you don't have a HOSTS file
designed to block their tracking.
| I guess it's like that Do Not Call registry where you have to tell them
who
| you are in order for them to not sell who you are. I trust CR though.
Do Not Call was the Federal gov't and companies were required to
check it before calling. It had nothing to do with private data per se. Companies just had to check whether a phone number was on the list
before calling it. It was only about getting spam phone calls. And it's
no longer enforced. Datamining is about maintaining and selling a
personal dossier with any personal details about you that they can get.
"Mickey D" <mickeydavis078XX@ptd.net> wrote
| Saw this on the Apple newsgroups.
| https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/regain-control-of-your-data-in-2024-and-delete-your-digital-history-heres-how-to-do-it/
|
I wouldn't sign up for anything like that. It's just giving out dependable personal data to yet one more source, with no
way of knowing what will happen to it.
The telemarketers who get through are all home-improvement people who
have no idea (they claim) of what the DNC thing is. Mostly they're just
dead air with an automatic hangup after 10 or 20 seconds.
That's a standard trick, I suppose. Like the retail stores where
they ask, "Could I just get you phone number real quick....OK, and
last name... And first name...."
I also use Acrylic, for the wildcards. Actually I use both
Acrylic and Unbound, on different machines.
| On a cellphone you could use NetGuard which has a HOSTS file though.
| https://netguard.me/
|
Thanks. I didn't know about that. I don't use a cellphone very much,
but this still looks worth having.
NLNet Labs. It's not commandline. It runs as a Windows service, like Acrylic. As I understand it, Unbound is a very capable and well made
program, but it's a pain in the neck to set up and the HOSTS format is unnecessarily complicated. (I ended up writing a VBScript to convert
normal HOSTS to Unbound HOSTS.)
I usually get apps from APKPure. (Though I don't "usually" get apps.
I have Firefox and a dialer set up, as well as the TracFone app to
buy more minutes.
I'm thinking that maybe I could set up NetGuard for
the woman I live with, as well, but it would need to be simple once set
up. (I once tried to give her NoScript. That didn't work out.)
I think I've got this all figured out. Thanks.
I instaled it, set up HOSTS, and enabled blocking of system apps.
I've used APKPure to avoid Google and Google accounts.
I wasn't aware that APKs could be installed by hand, but I did find instructions for it yesterday.
As I said earlier, I don't use my cellphone for much. I treat it as mostly just a portable phone booth -- since real phone booths have disappeared.
It sits in the glove compartment, turned off, most of the time.
The whole idea of using a computer that I have almost no control over
gives me the creeps. Recently I decided to let it upgrade for the first
time and that turned out to be a mistake. Now, every time I turn it on there's a stream of popup nags telling me that various things I've
disalbed can't work without Google Play Services or some such enabled!
I'm loathe top spend 2 months trying to learn how to manage Android adeptly, given that it seems to be a losing battle, with Android designed
as a kiosk system by arguably the sleaziest tech company of all.
| So AFAICT, you can't download the fully functional version from APKPure.
| But why not just download it from GitHub like everyone else does?
| https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard
| https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard/releases
|
https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard/releases/download/2.327/NetGuard-v2.327-release.apk
I will. Thank you.
| The bad thing about NetGuard is it's a firewall.
| And a HOSTS file (that can block domain names).
| With a whitelist, and with a blacklist.
| And an ad blocker (which uses that HOSTS file).
| And it blocks on a per-app basis.
Amazing. That's one of the critical features that I've always
found lacking on Linux -- A simple, easy-to-use firewall that
can block outgoing on a per-app basis.
| It can block, per app, the app's Wi-Fi access.
| Or it can block, per app, the app's cellular data access.
| It can block roaming by EU, INternataional, LTE, 3G, 2G, whatever.
| It can have rules for only when the screen is on.
| It can log all Internet access and track network usage.
| It can manage rules for system apps specifically.
| It can send notifications on Internet access.
| It can filter UDP traffic and do port forwarding and SOCKS5 and PCAP.
| It can do subnet routing to enable Wi-Fi calling.
| It can import/export & backup settings (to use your setup with hers).
| And it acts as a VPN.
|
VPN? To use NetGuard is to go through their server? Are you
saying that that's how all the functionality works -- that it
doesn't actually function in Android but rather provides a
man-in-the-middle filter online? And people trust the NetGuard
server... why?
| While it's easy to use, and well respected and safe, it's kind of like the >| power of the tor browser where most people will be burned by it in the
end.
|
I see what you mean. So it needs some knowledgeable config.
| Why do you use APKPure anyway?
| There's nothing APKPure gives you that you don't already have.
I assumed that such a service was the only way to get something
installed. So, then, what's the other option?
Say, for example, that
I wanted an Explorer-type program. I found such a thing on APKPure.
If I didn't go there, how would I find and access such a program?
In the case of my friend, she has an app from Cornell to ID birdsong
and something else to ID plants. If I were searching with no
information, not knowing about those apps, how would I find them?
How would I discover the possible selection?
? And once I found, say,
the Cornell app, how would I get it? Are they all different, such that
I might need to find a URL for Cornell, but perhaps a Github URL for
another similar app?
So, then, is it like going to a software download
site vs the author's site? On Windows that's a complicated affair. For instance, MajorGeeks might have software that no longer has a
website. On the other hand, I'd never download from CNet. Softpedia
doesn't work without enabling javascript. And some sources might
give me malware.
(I've seen many times in my own server logs where someone found my
software at a download site and tried to download an outdated version.
The link is dead, so they come to my site directly. They confirm that
the software exists, ignore my direct link, and go back to the download
site to get a few more 404s before giving up. :) So perhaps that's
basically what I'm doing with APKPure?
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