• This one sentence tells all you need to know about iKooks - who want me

    From Wally J@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 13 13:22:39 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.ipad, comp.sys.mac.system

    REFERENCE FOR POSTERITY:
    <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/MLrZ4boDMW8/m/IssFjuYLAAAJ>

    Vignette:
    ME: I study you. I understand you better than you know yourself
    JollyRoger: In your fevered dreams.

    Me: I forgive you for lashing out at me
    JollyRoger: I don't forgive you. And I hope you die soon.
    On that day, we'll celebrate with a drink here. Count on that.

    CITED ARTICLE:
    From: Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
    Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,comp.sys.mac.apps
    Subject: Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol
    Date: 13 Dec 2023 04:06:09 GMT
    Message-ID: <ktsothFedo8U1@mid.individual.net>
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    The iKooks are so afraid of facts that they wish death upon the bearer.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Wally J on Wed Dec 13 19:58:06 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.ipad, comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2023-12-13, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
    REFERENCE FOR POSTERITY: <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/MLrZ4boDMW8/m/IssFjuYLAAAJ>

    Vignette:
    ME: I study you. I understand you better than you know yourself
    JollyRoger: In your fevered dreams.

    Me: I forgive you for lashing out at me
    JollyRoger: I don't forgive you. And I hope you die soon.
    On that day, we'll celebrate with a drink here. Count on that.

    CITED ARTICLE:
    From: Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
    Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,comp.sys.mac.apps
    Subject: Re: Beeper Mini: Latest Android app to emulate iMessage protocol
    Date: 13 Dec 2023 04:06:09 GMT
    Message-ID: <ktsothFedo8U1@mid.individual.net>

    Got'em. 🤣

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  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Fri Dec 22 13:07:12 2023
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    badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote

    There isn't anyone intelligent in racing circuits who doesn't know the
    significance of the catenary in terms of teaching basic racing skills.

    I¢m not a racer, but I would guess it has something to do with calculating how to enter and exit a curve. As a motorcycle rider there are some very
    fine points of curve management one must learn to handle their bike safely.

    Hi badgolferman,

    Exactly. This is why I've never considered you (or Ant or Steve, et al.) an iKook but why _everyone_ knows that Alan Baker, for one, is an iKook.

    You have the cognitive ability to comprehend that physical forces are the
    same in all directions, particularly the forces that suspend a bridge are
    the same forces that act upon a motorcycle navigating a curve at speed.

    As an aside (owning a K1200 myself as I believe you have a Gold Wing), it mostly applies in racing circuits (as the real world has opposing traffic).

    The point of bringing up the catenary or the metric tensor or Christoffel symbols or even Dunning Kruger effects isn't so much what they are - but
    that the iKooks are ignorant of them and yet they form strong opinions.

    Jolly Roger thinks he's an iKook because "we disagree" but that's yet
    another trait of the iKook to completely misunderstand the obvious.

    He's an iKook not because we disagree - but because he strongly believes in things which he's completely ignorant of - for example, Jolly Roger
    repeatedly claims Apple fully patches older releases - when Apple doesn't.

    Sure. We disagree. But my disagreement is based on Apple's own words.
    His belief system is based on absolutely no facts whatsoever that matter.

    Apple says they do not fully patch older releases.
    Jolly Roger says they do.
    In fact, he's sure of it.

    Simply because Apple fixed a bug or two in an older release.
    That's "proof" to Jolly Roger that Apple fully patches older releases!

    *How do you deal with people that far to the left of the 1st D-K quartile?*

    Not only do the iKooks lack that cognitive ability, badgolferman, but they
    form strong opinions that all science is "dubious" simply because they
    a. are ignorant of it...
    b. because they're uneducated...
    c. as a result of their low IQ

    It's why the iKooks can't put together that Apple's variant excuses for removing basic functionality is because Apple wants to them to buy it back.

    Instead of putting things together, as you just did (and as most normal
    adults would do), they accept Apple's individual explanations (e.g., "it's courageous") because it's much simpler for them to accept a direct excuse.

    The whole point of this thread is to point out what iKooks really are.

    My main point about the iKooks is simply that they form strong opinions
    about things that they spend absolutely no energy actually understanding.

    Alan Browne, for example, repeatedly claims there is no walled garden
    simply because he's completely ignorant that he's logging into it.

    *How do you deal with people that far to the left of the 1st D-K quartile?*

    This is a classic Dunning-Kruger first quartile trait, where they are so confident of their assessments that they don't realize how wrong they are.

    It's what I'm trying to patiently explain to Hemidactylus, who deprecated
    the Dunning-Kruger graphs, where I fit into those same graphs as do you.

    The difference is that I _understand_ what Dunning-Kruger papers explained.

    It's the same with the catenary where, by now, Alan Baker has probably furiously googled enough to find that it's a well-taught well-discussed
    term in racing (particularly in motorcycle racing, as you've surmised).

    Yet, he's likely never heard of it nor, more importantly, since ignorance
    can be cured, he doesn't understand that it's an extremely important fact.

    Just as nospam can't stand that he was ignorant that iOS doesn't have any
    app store apps that graphically show wi-fi signal strength over time,
    they'll make a childish kindergarten excuse for why they lack knowledge.

    In nospam's case, that childish excuse is he'll repeatedly claim that apps exist - and yet - when asked to "name just one" - he's never once named it.

    *How do you deal with people that far to the left of the 1st D-K quartile?*

    It's the same with Hemidactylus claiming the D-K is a weapon when everyone
    fits into the D-K graphs - yes - everyone - including you and including me.

    *How do you deal with people that far to the left of the 1st D-K quartile?*

    The iKooks don't even realize _why_ they're iKooks, badgolferman.

    But they prove it whenever the only way they can deal with facts that
    they're ignorant of, like Alan Browne did, is to call people an 'it'.

    Do you know why Alan Browne calls people dealing with facts an 'it'?
    I do.

    HINT: If he negates the person, he feels he's negated all the facts too.
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    How do you deal with people that far to the left of the 1st D-K quartile?

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Wally J on Fri Dec 22 17:25:46 2023
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    On 2023-12-22, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
    badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote

    There isn't anyone intelligent in racing circuits who doesn't know
    the significance of the catenary in terms of teaching basic racing
    skills.

    I¢m not a racer, but I would guess it has something to do with
    calculating how to enter and exit a curve. As a motorcycle rider
    there are some very fine points of curve management one must learn to
    handle their bike safely.

    Jolly Roger repeatedly claims Apple fully patches older releases

    Arlen repeatedly lies and misrepresents what people say in order to
    troll. I've *never* said "Apple fully patches older releases", and to
    prove it, Arlen won't be able to post a *single* link to me saying it.
    Arlen counts on his gullible followers not fact checking him, because he *loves* gullible rubes. Is badgolferman a gullible rube, or just another dishonest troll? His behavior here betrays him. 😉

    Apple says they do not fully patch older releases. Jolly Roger says
    they do. In fact, he's sure of it.

    The record shows I *never* said that. What I *did* was simple: In
    response to Arlen's juvenile trolls claiming Apple's operating systems
    are supposedly the most insecure of them all, I asked Arlen to provide information about which security vulnerabilities Apple supposedly does
    not patch in older versions of its operating systems that are in
    mainstream use today. Arlen completely *failed* to do so each time I
    asked - and the reason he failed is because he simply *don't know*. As
    always with Arlen's lame trolls, he is all bark, no bite - all hat, no
    cattle.

    Simply because Apple fixed a bug or two in an older release.

    Note that Arlen is *still* unable to point to a specific vulnerability
    Apple hasn't patched in older versions of its operating systems that are
    in mainstream use today.

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