• What Type of Fingerprint Reader is on the Moto G5 Plus?

    From croy@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 12 13:18:21 2023
    I've been hunting around for this info, but haven't come up with much. I know this phone was
    introduced in the first half of 2017.

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    croy

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  • From AJL@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Tue Dec 12 22:43:26 2023
    On 12/12/23 3:21 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:

    I've been hunting around for this info, but haven't come up with much. I know this phone was
    introduced in the first half of 2017.

    Look for parts replacement, like: >https://mpdmobileparts.com/products/motorola-moto-g5-xt1670-speaker

    They're selling parts, not manufacturing them. I didn't bother to hunt
    down the manufacturers (there could be more than one). You could try
    calling the part sellers to find out who are their suppliers.

    Obviously there is no light shone onto your finger to scan its ridges. >Smartphones don't use optical scanners nor ultrasonic scanners. Thermal >scanners would have problems measuring in the environs under which >smartphones are used, like sub-zero temperatures. That leave
    capacitance scanning. Multiple technologies are not precluded: optical
    and capacitance can be compined as well as adding ultrasonics. However,
    look at the part that goes into your phone. I see no means to use
    optical scanning. I doubt ultrasonic is incorporated. I cannot be
    positive because I have not researched every phone ever made, but I
    think ultrasonic scanners are in those phone models where the
    fingerprint scanner is embedded in the display (screen), like the iQOO 9
    Pro which was release Jan 2022; see:

    https://www.androidpolice.com/iqoo-9-pro-fingerprint-sensor/


    The Samsung Galaxy S10 and S10+ have ultrasonic scanners in their
    screens. Those were released back in March 2019.

    I bought my S10+ in 9/19. I could never get the scanner to work right. It
    always took several tries, a PITA and very disappointing. The pin was
    quicker and I have been using it ever since...



    From the scanner part
    that I found for your phone, nope, your c.2016 phone just has a
    capacitance scanner. You have a front-mounted scanner, not an in-screen >scanner.

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to croy on Tue Dec 12 16:21:41 2023
    croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:

    I've been hunting around for this info, but haven't come up with much. I know this phone was
    introduced in the first half of 2017.

    Look for parts replacement, like: https://mpdmobileparts.com/products/motorola-moto-g5-xt1670-speaker

    They're selling parts, not manufacturing them. I didn't bother to hunt
    down the manufacturers (there could be more than one). You could try
    calling the part sellers to find out who are their suppliers.

    Obviously there is no light shone onto your finger to scan its ridges. Smartphones don't use optical scanners nor ultrasonic scanners. Thermal scanners would have problems measuring in the environs under which
    smartphones are used, like sub-zero temperatures. That leave
    capacitance scanning. Multiple technologies are not precluded: optical
    and capacitance can be compined as well as adding ultrasonics. However,
    look at the part that goes into your phone. I see no means to use
    optical scanning. I doubt ultrasonic is incorporated. I cannot be
    positive because I have not researched every phone ever made, but I
    think ultrasonic scanners are in those phone models where the
    fingerprint scanner is embedded in the display (screen), like the iQOO 9
    Pro which was release Jan 2022; see:

    https://www.androidpolice.com/iqoo-9-pro-fingerprint-sensor/

    The Samsung Galaxy S10 and S10+ have ultrasonic scanners in their
    screens. Those were released back in March 2019. From the scanner part
    that I found for your phone, nope, your c.2016 phone just has a
    capacitance scanner. You have a front-mounted scanner, not an in-screen scanner.

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  • From croy@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Wed Dec 13 08:41:07 2023
    On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 16:21:41 -0600, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Look for parts replacement, like: >https://mpdmobileparts.com/products/motorola-moto-g5-xt1670-speaker

    They're selling parts, not manufacturing them. I didn't bother to hunt
    down the manufacturers (there could be more than one). You could try
    calling the part sellers to find out who are their suppliers.

    Obviously there is no light shone onto your finger to scan its ridges. >Smartphones don't use optical scanners nor ultrasonic scanners. Thermal >scanners would have problems measuring in the environs under which >smartphones are used, like sub-zero temperatures. That leave
    capacitance scanning. Multiple technologies are not precluded: optical
    and capacitance can be compined as well as adding ultrasonics. However,
    look at the part that goes into your phone. I see no means to use
    optical scanning. I doubt ultrasonic is incorporated. I cannot be
    positive because I have not researched every phone ever made, but I
    think ultrasonic scanners are in those phone models where the
    fingerprint scanner is embedded in the display (screen), like the iQOO 9
    Pro which was release Jan 2022; see:

    https://www.androidpolice.com/iqoo-9-pro-fingerprint-sensor/

    The Samsung Galaxy S10 and S10+ have ultrasonic scanners in their
    screens. Those were released back in March 2019. From the scanner part
    that I found for your phone, nope, your c.2016 phone just has a
    capacitance scanner. You have a front-mounted scanner, not an in-screen >scanner.

    Thanks VanguardLH! Good stuff.

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    croy

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  • From croy@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Wed Dec 13 08:48:51 2023
    On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 16:21:41 -0600, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    From the scanner part
    that I found for your phone, nope, your c.2016 phone just has a
    capacitance scanner. You have a front-mounted scanner, not an in-screen >scanner.

    I don't see the word "capacitance" (or any form of it) on that page. I'm not doubting your
    statement, in fact I'm guessing that you are correct, just wondering how you found out.

    Thanks again,

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    croy

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to croy on Wed Dec 13 15:08:19 2023
    croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:

    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    From the scanner part that I found for your phone, nope, your c.2016
    phone just has a capacitance scanner. You have a front-mounted
    scanner, not an in-screen scanner.

    I don't see the word "capacitance" (or any form of it) on that page. I'm not doubting your
    statement, in fact I'm guessing that you are correct, just wondering how you found out.

    An optical reader would need a light (LED) to then scan the ridges on
    your finger. Ultrasonic scanners would require power to buzz the
    reader. I don't see any power to the scanner for the Moto G5.

    You could ask the parts seller what type of scanner they are selling, or
    find out who is their supplier, and then ask the supplier.

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