• Comcast guest wifi vs. Verizon

    From micky@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 10 12:44:19 2023
    AIUI Comcast has 2 wifi channels originating from every user's internet
    box, and one of their names ends in -guest. Comcast users are entitled
    to use any of these guest wifi channels, without supplying a subscriber-specific password, even when they don't know the subscriber.
    Even when they're in a car parked near his home. Right?

    What about Verizon? It doesn't offer this or allow it, right? If
    you're out and you run out of data on your cellphone, you can't just use
    some other Verizon subscriber's wifi, right? Like you could if you were
    a Comcast subscriber. I've got two channels too, but the names vary
    only that one ends in -5G.


    Side question: One of my neighbors appears to have a wifi network
    called Ring Setup 2d, and it's not password protected. Do you think in
    an emergency I could use that, even though it's clearly meant only for a
    Ring doorbell?

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to micky on Sun Dec 10 13:38:45 2023
    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    AIUI Comcast has 2 wifi channels originating from every user's internet
    box, and one of their names ends in -guest. Comcast users are entitled
    to use any of these guest wifi channels, without supplying a subscriber-specific password, even when they don't know the subscriber.
    Even when they're in a car parked near his home. Right?

    You can disable the 'xfinity' wifi hotspot on the cable modem by going
    online into your account to disable that feature, or using their app
    which is merely a web-centric interface to your account.

    Only users that login to Comcast (i.e., only Comcast customers) can use
    the 'xfinity' hotspot. Their app retrieves a security profile that
    allows Comcast customers to connect to the wifi hotspot. Even if you
    have guests at your home, they can use the xfinity hotspot as long as
    they are also Comcast customers, or you could give them your SSID
    password to let them use your wifi service.

    The channels assigned to the 'xfinity' hotspot are not from those
    provisioned in the cable modem for your service tier. No matter how
    much or little bandwidth is consumed by the 'xfinity' hotspot, it does
    not affect your monthly bandwidth quota.

    https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/about-xfinity-wifi-internet

    What about Verizon?

    I don't use Verizon as my ISP. Maybe a Verizon customer can answer.
    Unless the Verizon wifi hotspot is publicly accessible, and only if
    login is not required to use that bandwidth, could you make use of
    someone else's wifi hotspot.

    Side question: One of my neighbors appears to have a wifi network
    called Ring Setup 2d, and it's not password protected. Do you think
    in an emergency I could use that, even though it's clearly meant only
    for a Ring doorbell?

    There is no emergency that allows you to steal bandwidth from your
    neighbor. For an emergency, use your phone service(s).

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  • From AJL@21:1/5 to micky on Sun Dec 10 14:43:31 2023
    On 12/10/2023 10:44 AM, micky wrote:

    AIUI Comcast has 2 wifi channels originating from every user's
    internet box, and one of their names ends in -guest. Comcast users
    are entitled to use any of these guest wifi channels, without
    supplying a subscriber-specific password, even when they don't know
    the subscriber. Even when they're in a car parked near his home.
    Right?

    What about Verizon? It doesn't offer this or allow it, right?

    Dunno about Comcast or Verizon but my ISP Cox has the same thing. Cox
    calls them hotspots. All Cox modems have hotspot capability and the
    default is to be ON. But the hotspot can be disabled by the customer. To
    use any Cox hotspot I just need to enter my user name and password.

    Someone using a Cox modem hotspot won't subtract from the customer's
    data allowance but I suspect it would subtract from the available speed
    if used at the same time. Probably a pretty unlikely occurrence though...

    There are thousands of Cox hotspots in my area according to Cox's online
    map. That of course just means that most of their customers haven't
    turned off their modem's hotspot.

    I have only used a Cox hotspot a few times. My neighbor has one that I
    have tried (tested?) and it works OK. If my modem were to fail I could
    use his until mine were repaired. A backup that I thankfully haven't
    needed yet.

    And of course I have my modem's hotspot turned OFF so turnabout is
    definitely not fair play...

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