• Why are only some people having trouble with carrier messaging?

    From Wally J@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 10 00:20:48 2023
    I have no problems using carrier messaging even as many of my own family members are on iOS. Yet others need messaging to be improved. Why?

    What's the fundamental problem?

    1. I am aware that due to the fee structure in many places in Europe,
    WhatsApp & RCS is useful to circumvent imposed carrier costs.

    But that, in and of itself, has _nothing_ per se to do with Android.

    2. I am also aware that iOS users see colored bubbles, which, for some
    rather strange reason, seems to bother them - but they're iOS users.

    What's the problem on Android that needs to be solved in messaging?

    There are two ways to look at that question, which are fundamental:
    A. What's the problem when Android users interact with Android users?
    B. What's the problem when Android users interact with iOS users?

    If there's a problem, why don't I experience it interacting with both?

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  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to Wally J on Sun Dec 10 14:27:10 2023
    Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote

    I have no problems using carrier messaging even as many of my own family members are on iOS. Yet others need messaging to be improved. Why?

    What's the fundamental problem?

    1. I am aware that due to the fee structure in many places in Europe,
    WhatsApp & RCS is useful to circumvent imposed carrier costs.

    But that, in and of itself, has _nothing_ per se to do with Android.

    2. I am also aware that iOS users see colored bubbles, which, for some
    rather strange reason, seems to bother them - but they're iOS users.

    What's the problem on Android that needs to be solved in messaging?

    There are two ways to look at that question, which are fundamental:
    A. What's the problem when Android users interact with Android users?
    B. What's the problem when Android users interact with iOS users?

    If there's a problem, why don't I experience it interacting with both?

    More than one Android user has explained that it's NOT Android users complaining about how the "color of their bubbles" show up for recipients.

    Frank Slootweg:
    <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/DdJwdE3jO4w/m/U5EPXlcAAQAJ>

    So why are only iOS posters on Usenet saying Android users are complaining?
    I communicate with iOS users all the time & I have no problems doing so.

    *What is the problem that these iOS users are saying Android users want?*
    (because it isn't the color of our bubbles - that's for sure!)

    It seems the answer, at least so far from one Android user, is that there
    is free MMS for some Android users but not for others based on this...

    Andy Burns:
    <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/DdJwdE3jO4w/m/hc4ICwH9AAAJ> Carlos E.R.:
    <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/DdJwdE3jO4w/m/Jo24iCsJAQAJ>

    OK. I get that. RCS allows them to circumvent carrier-imposed MMS fees.
    But that issue has NOTHING whatsoever to do with Android, per se.

    In fact, it has more to do with Apple than with Android as all Android
    phones already support RCS (and have supported RCS for quite a while now).

    So is the problem only that iOS posters are complaining about RCS?

    As most of you are aware, I'm all for using smartphone apps to get things
    for free that other people pay greatly to get (e.g., YouTube Premium).

    So if any of the half dozen Android messaging apps that currently support
    RCS will allow them to send MMS images over Wi-Fi/Cellular-data for free,
    I'll stand by that as a logically sensible reasonable decision to make.

    It seems all they need now is for the primitive Apple iMessages servers to support the modern RCS protocol - which - to me - seems to be the problem.

    Apple simply needs to support the latest standard communication protocols.
    But would that alone solve the problem that the iOS users complain about?
    --
    For example, it won't change the color of the bubbles.

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