Android 13 (as MIUI 14, so there may be differences).
Can anyone clarify battery usage of apps? When looking under Settings recently, I noticed several apps using the battery. Very few were being
used actively at the time. The worst offender was Firefox (v119.1.1),
using about 25% of the battery.
I just checked again and according to Settings | Battery, FF is now
using 94.1%! However, if I look at App Info | Firefox, that tells me FF battery usage is 52.5%. Note, though, that I'm not using FF for
anything. A couple of hours ago I was using it, but I closed it (square symbol and swipe off screen). I force closed it from the settings app manager, but it made no difference. Then I switched the phone off and on again. No difference. Finally I rebooted the phone. Battery usage by FF
is now at 40%, and some other apps are using a very small amount,
although I hadn't turned them on today at all.
Is there a simple explanation for this? I would expect that only very
few apps should be using the battery when the phone is off, such as
those checking for a phone call, message checking for SMS/MMS, my email
app checking for emails (this is the only app I have with "Background autostart" selected), and a few system apps needed to run those apps and checking the battery status to let me know if the battery needs recharging.
Can anyone clarify battery usage of apps?
Android 13 (as MIUI 14, so there may be differences).
Can anyone clarify battery usage of apps? When looking under Settings recently, I noticed several apps using the battery. Very few were being
used actively at the time. The worst offender was Firefox (v119.1.1),
using about 25% of the battery.
I just checked again and according to Settings | Battery, FF is now
using 94.1%! However, if I look at App Info | Firefox, that tells me FF battery usage is 52.5%. Note, though, that I'm not using FF for
anything. A couple of hours ago I was using it, but I closed it (square symbol and swipe off screen). I force closed it from the settings app manager, but it made no difference. Then I switched the phone off and on again. No difference. Finally I rebooted the phone. Battery usage by FF
is now at 40%, and some other apps are using a very small amount,
although I hadn't turned them on today at all.
Is there a simple explanation for this? I would expect that only very
few apps should be using the battery when the phone is off, such as
those checking for a phone call, message checking for SMS/MMS, my email
app checking for emails (this is the only app I have with "Background autostart" selected), and a few system apps needed to run those apps and checking the battery status to let me know if the battery needs recharging.
On 2023-11-24 10:59, Jeff Layman wrote:
Android 13 (as MIUI 14, so there may be differences).
Can anyone clarify battery usage of apps? When looking under Settings
recently, I noticed several apps using the battery. Very few were being
used actively at the time. The worst offender was Firefox (v119.1.1),
using about 25% of the battery.
I just checked again and according to Settings | Battery, FF is now
using 94.1%! However, if I look at App Info | Firefox, that tells me FF
battery usage is 52.5%. Note, though, that I'm not using FF for
anything. A couple of hours ago I was using it, but I closed it (square
symbol and swipe off screen). I force closed it from the settings app
manager, but it made no difference. Then I switched the phone off and on
again. No difference. Finally I rebooted the phone. Battery usage by FF
is now at 40%, and some other apps are using a very small amount,
although I hadn't turned them on today at all.
Is there a simple explanation for this? I would expect that only very
few apps should be using the battery when the phone is off, such as
those checking for a phone call, message checking for SMS/MMS, my email
app checking for emails (this is the only app I have with "Background
autostart" selected), and a few system apps needed to run those apps and
checking the battery status to let me know if the battery needs recharging.
I ave never seen FF use that lot of battery, not even close. It would indicate an ineffective CPU at running FF, maybe.
Theoretically, FF might use battery in the background if there is a page
that has to do something in the background, like keeping updated every second. Not only that, bur running page code, javascript.
Maybe a page with a terrible design.
Jeff Layman wrote:
Can anyone clarify battery usage of apps?
I think there's a lot of guesswork going on by android.
The only two (non-system) apps that I allow to run "unrestricted" in the background are k9-mail which is on IMAP/PUSH to minimise delays, and my banking app so that it can pop-up confirmation prompts for online purchases.
firefox isn't very high up my battery usage list (2% battery and only a
few minutes screen time, less than a minute background) what times does
your firefox show?
Andy Burns wrote:
The only two (non-system) apps that I allow to run "unrestricted" in the
background are k9-mail which is on IMAP/PUSH to minimise delays, and my
banking app so that it can pop-up confirmation prompts for online
purchases.
firefox isn't very high up my battery usage list (2% battery and only a
few minutes screen time, less than a minute background) what times does
your firefox show?
Excuse my ignorance, but I assume that's somewhere in the "Settings".
Unfortunately I don't know where to find it. It wasn't under "Display",
and I couldn't see it in any of the app menus.
Jeff Layman wrote:
I just switched the phone on after not using it for two hours
Do you literally mean powered it up from being fully off, or just that
you woke-up the screen?
The former is likely to skew the usage figures towards any apps that
have been used even slightly more than zero since booting.
I just switched the phone on after not using it for two hours
Unfortunately I don't know where to find it. It wasn't under "Display",
and I couldn't see it in any of the app menus.
For me, Settings/Battery/BatteryUsage
Jeff Layman wrote:
I just switched the phone on after not using it for two hours
Do you literally mean powered it up from being fully off, or just that
you woke-up the screen?
The former is likely to skew the usage figures towards any apps that
have been used even slightly more than zero since booting.
Jeff Layman wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
The only two (non-system) apps that I allow to run "unrestricted" in the >>> background are k9-mail which is on IMAP/PUSH to minimise delays, and my
banking app so that it can pop-up confirmation prompts for online
purchases.
firefox isn't very high up my battery usage list (2% battery and only a
few minutes screen time, less than a minute background) what times does
your firefox show?
Excuse my ignorance, but I assume that's somewhere in the "Settings".
It is, but I don't know how much Xiaomi fiddle with it compared to
"stock" Android?
Unfortunately I don't know where to find it. It wasn't under "Display",
and I couldn't see it in any of the app menus.
For me, Settings/Battery/BatteryUsage
then click on e.g. Firefox from the list of apps below, you should see screen time and background time (measured since last full charge) and
you can set the battery usage to unrestricted/optimised/restricted
(system apps will probably be fixed at unrestricted).
e.g. <http://andyburns.uk/misc/firefox-battery.png>
Note that my phone is fresh off the charger, so very little battery
usage recorded.
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote
Unfortunately I don't know where to find it. It wasn't under "Display",
and I couldn't see it in any of the app menus.
For me, Settings/Battery/BatteryUsage
I always try to help others if I can, but in the case of battery
monitoring, with huge Android batteries, for me, it's a thing of the past.
My 5Ah battery could jumpstart a pickup truck so I don't look often at it. Also there are much better battery utilities than what is Android native.
Long ago I tested every known free battery monitor app utility out there.
These are those I still have on my system (in order of best to worst).
<com.darshancomputing.BatteryIndicatorPro> Battery Bot Pro (free)
<com.gsamlabs.bbm> GSam Battery Monitor (free)
<com.darshancomputing.BatteryIndicator> Battery Bot (free)
<com.asksven.betterbatterystats> BBS Better Battery Stats (free)
<net.sf.andbatdog.batterydog> Android Battery Dog (free)
Note that the best-to-worst inflexion very quickly with such utilities.
As I recall, I'd only recommended BB Pro or GSAM in my last tutorial.
<https://i.postimg.cc/QNPHpZH4/battery02.jpg>
However, for the OP's benefit, & for others, I just went through my Samsung Android 13 Settings > Battery > Battery Usage (also off the charger).
Here are my results just now, which are provided for comparative purposes.
<https://i.postimg.cc/bN0XT1mG/battery03.jpg>
That lack of useful data is why those five free battery utilities exist.
That lack of useful data is why those five free battery utilities exist.
Perhaps that's answered the question I asked above!
The worst offender was Firefox (v119.1.1), using about 25% of the battery.
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