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    From Wally J@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 22 19:56:37 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.audio.equipment

    Regarding this useful technical comparison document by Steve Scharf:
    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JznrWfGJDA8CYVfjSnPTwfVy8-gAC0kPyaApuJTcUNE/>

    Steve Scharf needs to add this critically important audio fidelity data
    below to his excellent comparison document (as the data holds value).
    <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/sY8lOr4LVN4>

    Technical snippets for Steve's comparison document...

    "The iphone DOES NOT support lossless music because it has no way
    to get audio to the headphones by something other than lossy bluetooth."

    "Android products do."

    "Apple Music supports 192/24 bit but Apple products like the iPhone
    and Airpods Max do not support it as the iPhone uses Bluetooth
    to transmit the audio to external headphones."

    "Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but
    iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not support it. Therefore you
    have to buy an Android Phone or Android based music player to
    get the best music high fidelity off of Apple Music."

    "Apple devices like iPhone 15 do not support codecs like AptxHD
    which ARE REQUIRED for maximum performance with headphones
    while playing back 192/24 bit ALAC which Apple Music provides."

    "Apple codecs do NOT support transfer of lossless.
    Apple provides only a crude bluetooth capability.
    To get true high fidelity to the headphones requires AptX HD
    or something better OTHER than Apples Bluetooth. "

    "Airpods Max do not support AptXHD or other advanced codecs and
    sound like crap compared to capable headphones like B and W PX8s."
    --
    The intelligent person comparing audio looks at it with an open ear.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Wally J on Wed Nov 22 16:05:39 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.audio.equipment

    On 2023-11-22 15:56, Wally J wrote:
    Regarding this useful technical comparison document by Steve Scharf:
    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JznrWfGJDA8CYVfjSnPTwfVy8-gAC0kPyaApuJTcUNE/>

    Steve Scharf needs to add this critically important audio fidelity data
    below to his excellent comparison document (as the data holds value).
    <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/sY8lOr4LVN4>

    Technical snippets for Steve's comparison document...

    "The iphone DOES NOT support lossless music because it has no way
    to get audio to the headphones by something other than lossy bluetooth."

    Which is false.


    "Android products do."

    "Apple Music supports 192/24 bit but Apple products like the iPhone
    and Airpods Max do not support it as the iPhone uses Bluetooth
    to transmit the audio to external headphones."

    "Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but
    iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not support it. ..."

    Also false.


    "Apple devices like iPhone 15 do not support codecs like AptxHD
    which ARE REQUIRED for maximum performance with headphones
    while playing back 192/24 bit ALAC which Apple Music provides."

    With BLUETOOTH headphones.

    So false.


    "Apple codecs do NOT support transfer of lossless.
    Apple provides only a crude bluetooth capability.
    To get true high fidelity to the headphones requires AptX HD
    or something better OTHER than Apples Bluetooth. "

    "Airpods Max do not support AptXHD or other advanced codecs and
    sound like crap compared to capable headphones like B and W PX8s."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Andrew on Wed Nov 22 19:00:51 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.audio.equipment

    On 2023-11-22 18:55, Andrew wrote:
    Wally J wrote on Wed, 22 Nov 2023 19:56:37 -0400 :

    Regarding this useful technical comparison document by Steve Scharf:
    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JznrWfGJDA8CYVfjSnPTwfVy8-gAC0kPyaApuJTcUNE/>

    Steve Scharf needs to add this critically important audio fidelity data
    below to his excellent comparison document (as the data holds value).
    <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/sY8lOr4LVN4>

    Technical snippets for Steve's comparison document...

    "The iphone DOES NOT support lossless music because it has no way
    to get audio to the headphones by something other than lossy bluetooth." >>
    "Android products do."

    "Apple Music supports 192/24 bit but Apple products like the iPhone
    and Airpods Max do not support it as the iPhone uses Bluetooth
    to transmit the audio to external headphones."

    "Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but
    iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not support it. Therefore you
    have to buy an Android Phone or Android based music player to
    get the best music high fidelity off of Apple Music."

    "Apple devices like iPhone 15 do not support codecs like AptxHD
    which ARE REQUIRED for maximum performance with headphones
    while playing back 192/24 bit ALAC which Apple Music provides."

    "Apple codecs do NOT support transfer of lossless.
    Apple provides only a crude bluetooth capability.
    To get true high fidelity to the headphones requires AptX HD
    or something better OTHER than Apples Bluetooth. "

    "Airpods Max do not support AptXHD or other advanced codecs and
    sound like crap compared to capable headphones like B and W PX8s."

    Most people can't hear good audio but those who can will know the
    difference as it always costs the most to get the best fidelity.

    Always the elitists!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to Wally J on Thu Nov 23 02:55:56 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.audio.equipment

    Wally J wrote on Wed, 22 Nov 2023 19:56:37 -0400 :

    Regarding this useful technical comparison document by Steve Scharf:
    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JznrWfGJDA8CYVfjSnPTwfVy8-gAC0kPyaApuJTcUNE/>

    Steve Scharf needs to add this critically important audio fidelity data
    below to his excellent comparison document (as the data holds value).
    <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/sY8lOr4LVN4>

    Technical snippets for Steve's comparison document...

    "The iphone DOES NOT support lossless music because it has no way
    to get audio to the headphones by something other than lossy bluetooth."

    "Android products do."

    "Apple Music supports 192/24 bit but Apple products like the iPhone
    and Airpods Max do not support it as the iPhone uses Bluetooth
    to transmit the audio to external headphones."

    "Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but
    iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not support it. Therefore you
    have to buy an Android Phone or Android based music player to
    get the best music high fidelity off of Apple Music."

    "Apple devices like iPhone 15 do not support codecs like AptxHD
    which ARE REQUIRED for maximum performance with headphones
    while playing back 192/24 bit ALAC which Apple Music provides."

    "Apple codecs do NOT support transfer of lossless.
    Apple provides only a crude bluetooth capability.
    To get true high fidelity to the headphones requires AptX HD
    or something better OTHER than Apples Bluetooth. "

    "Airpods Max do not support AptXHD or other advanced codecs and
    sound like crap compared to capable headphones like B and W PX8s."

    Most people can't hear good audio but those who can will know the
    difference as it always costs the most to get the best fidelity.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)