In Spain, recording a phone call in which you are one of the
participants is legal. What is illegal is publishing it without
permission.
And with recent changes in regulation about spam calls, the
authorities want a recording of the phone call in order to reprimand
the company responsible for the call.
But Android universally disallows recording of phone calls. At most,
you can manage what goes on the speaker, but not your own mike.
One alternative would be a headphone that did the recording on its
own hardware.
But another alternative was mentioned on one of the many articles
(click-bait mostly). All of them describe the situation, none says
how to actually do the recording.
The alternative that I read about the other day was application on
apk form, ie, not distributed by google play.
Does any one have suggestions, preferably with actual experience?
(my purpose is recording spam calls, and business calls that the
other side say they are recording).
But Android universally disallows recording of phone calls. At most, you
can manage what goes on the speaker, but not your own mike.
Google cracked down on phone recording apps
"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
In Spain, recording a phone call in which you are one of the
participants is legal. What is illegal is publishing it without
permission.
And with recent changes in regulation about spam calls, the
authorities want a recording of the phone call in order to reprimand
the company responsible for the call.
But Android universally disallows recording of phone calls. At most,
you can manage what goes on the speaker, but not your own mike.
One alternative would be a headphone that did the recording on its
own hardware.
But another alternative was mentioned on one of the many articles
(click-bait mostly). All of them describe the situation, none says
how to actually do the recording.
The alternative that I read about the other day was application on
apk form, ie, not distributed by google play.
Does any one have suggestions, preferably with actual experience?
(my purpose is recording spam calls, and business calls that the
other side say they are recording).
https://support.google.com/phoneapp/answer/9803950?hl=en
Google cracked down on phone recording apps, so I didn't bother to
search their Play Store. I use Google Voice which has the option to
On 2023-11-22 19:12, VanguardLH wrote:
"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
In Spain, recording a phone call in which you are one of the
participants is legal. What is illegal is publishing it without
permission.
And with recent changes in regulation about spam calls, the
authorities want a recording of the phone call in order to reprimand
the company responsible for the call.
But Android universally disallows recording of phone calls. At most,
you can manage what goes on the speaker, but not your own mike.
One alternative would be a headphone that did the recording on its
own hardware.
But another alternative was mentioned on one of the many articles
(click-bait mostly). All of them describe the situation, none says
how to actually do the recording.
The alternative that I read about the other day was application on
apk form, ie, not distributed by google play.
Does any one have suggestions, preferably with actual experience?
(my purpose is recording spam calls, and business calls that the
other side say they are recording).
https://support.google.com/phoneapp/answer/9803950?hl=en
Google cracked down on phone recording apps, so I didn't bother to
search their Play Store. I use Google Voice which has the option to
No, I am seeking for apps outside of the Google Pay Store. The article
said they exists, so somebody may know them.
No, I am seeking for apps outside of the Google Pay Store. The article
said they exists, so somebody may know them.
"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-11-22 19:12, VanguardLH wrote:
"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
In Spain, recording a phone call in which you are one of the
participants is legal. What is illegal is publishing it without
permission.
And with recent changes in regulation about spam calls, the
authorities want a recording of the phone call in order to reprimand
the company responsible for the call.
But Android universally disallows recording of phone calls. At most,
you can manage what goes on the speaker, but not your own mike.
One alternative would be a headphone that did the recording on its
own hardware.
But another alternative was mentioned on one of the many articles
(click-bait mostly). All of them describe the situation, none says
how to actually do the recording.
The alternative that I read about the other day was application on
apk form, ie, not distributed by google play.
Does any one have suggestions, preferably with actual experience?
(my purpose is recording spam calls, and business calls that the
other side say they are recording).
https://support.google.com/phoneapp/answer/9803950?hl=en
Google cracked down on phone recording apps, so I didn't bother to
search their Play Store. I use Google Voice which has the option to
No, I am seeking for apps outside of the Google Pay Store. The article
said they exists, so somebody may know them.
The PBX-like services that I mentioned do not require an app. Perhaps
you don't want to port your old phone number to a PBX service which
would eliminate any disruption and having to update everyone that has
your old phone number.
"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote
No, I am seeking for apps outside of the Google Pay Store. The article
said they exists, so somebody may know them.
You're not the only one looking for them as I just skimmed my old XDA
article on the subject (which you have the URL to) as they suggested some.
Me?
I record whenever I want to record, but like Vanguard, I use Google Voice (GV) usually in a way different than he does - but the results are that I have no problem recording phone calls when I'm using GV at home.
When I'm away, I too could use a call recording solution, which I used to have running just fine until Google started their shenanigans in May 11 of 2022 where only _native_ apps would continue to work in future Androids.
I record whenever I want to record, but like Vanguard, I use Google Voice
(GV) usually in a way different than he does - but the results are that I
have no problem recording phone calls when I'm using GV at home.
There is no GV in Europe, AFAIK.
When I'm away, I too could use a call recording solution, which I used to
have running just fine until Google started their shenanigans in May 11 of >> 2022 where only _native_ apps would continue to work in future Androids.
I have been told that only apps on Google Play are restricted, but apps downloaded externally are not. I don't have verification for this.
So I am asking if somebody has tried such an external app.
There is no GV in Europe, AFAIK.
This article, dated September 4, 2023, makes the following claim:
"We can confirm that every app on the list below worked on both of
our test devices, and we made over 140 phone calls in total to
test apps for this. Here are the best call recorder apps for Android."
That's correct, I do not want that.
a. "The first is downloading an app from outside the Play Store
that ​still allows accessibility."
​
b. "The second method uses a plug-in or secondary app that uses
the​ Accessibility API while connecting to the original app
to record calls,​ thus bypassing the Google Play ban."
GV isn't for everyone.
Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote
a. "The first is downloading an app from outside the Play Store
that ​still allows accessibility."
​
b. "The second method uses a plug-in or secondary app that uses
the​ Accessibility API while connecting to the original app
to record calls,​ thus bypassing the Google Play ban."
OT Maybe Andy Burns can explain why those funny characters happened.
It's likely due to a mixup in the character encoding header directive.
How would I fix that?
...
3. What I like about GV is that it sends an email of any message to your
Google Account (which you can read on your computer if you like).
...
OT Maybe Andy Burns can explain why those funny characters happened.
It's likely due to a mixup in the character encoding header directive.
How would I fix that?
My guess not an issue if you quit using OE as your NNTP client. Alternatively, as I recall, you could configure features differently
between e-mail and newsgroup accounts, like quoted-printable. If so,
you could configure your NNTP accounts to use us-ascii or UTF-8 and
plain text (no quoted-printable) separate of however you configure the
e-mail accounts.
Wally J wrote
a. "The first is downloading an app from outside the Play Store
that ​still allows accessibility."
​
b. "The second method uses a plug-in or secondary app that uses
the​ Accessibility API while connecting to the original app
to record calls,​ thus bypassing the Google Play ban."
OT Maybe Andy Burns can explain why those funny characters happened.
Wally J wrote:
OT Maybe Andy Burns can explain why those funny characters happened.
you used fancy double-quotes " instead of plain ASCII ones "
OT Maybe Andy Burns can explain why those funny characters happened.
you used fancy double-quotes " instead of plain ASCII ones "
Actually it wasn't the quotes, but other "stray" characters with wrong encoding, I can't see them within the android authority page, assuming
that was the source?
<https://www.i18nqa.com/debug/utf8-debug.html>
"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
There is no GV in Europe, AFAIK.
There is, but might not be free. I have not investigated if free or
what is the cost in other countries. GV lists Spain as a supported
country.
https://support.google.com/a/answer/12743190?hl=en
"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
There is no GV in Europe, AFAIK.
There is, but might not be free. I have not investigated if free or
what is the cost in other countries. GV lists Spain as a supported
country.
https://support.google.com/a/answer/12743190?hl=en
However, since you don't want to port your old phone number to another service, the PBX-like services would mean you'd have 2 phone numbers:
your old one, and a new one. The GV number would get little traffic
unless you gradually migrate to it by updating your phone records for
your callers. I know some folks that don't migrate to the GV number,
but instead use it as a 2nd number, like for business or work use.
Something to consider: how long do you keep your cell phone number(s)?
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote
OT Maybe Andy Burns can explain why those funny characters happened.
It's likely due to a mixup in the character encoding header directive.
How would I fix that?
My guess not an issue if you quit using OE as your NNTP client.
Alternatively, as I recall, you could configure features differently
between e-mail and newsgroup accounts, like quoted-printable. If so,
you could configure your NNTP accounts to use us-ascii or UTF-8 and
plain text (no quoted-printable) separate of however you configure the
e-mail accounts.
Thanks for the advice that my 'newsreader' sucks. I'm sure it does.
Did you also see the characters messed up in this post from me?
From: Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam>
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
Subject: Re: Phone call recording app
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:10:53 -0400
Message-ID: <ujt9qs$2e340$1@paganini.bofh.team>
Or was it only I who saw the few funky characters as messed up?
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote
Hi Andy,
First off, I solved the OP's problem, which is the most important fact.
*Tutorial: Installing open-source automatic call recording (ACR) on Android 13+ Samsung Galaxy*
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/7mCHCktUuKw>
It took me a few hours as I had to write up the entire thing
after researching which was the best solution to attempt first.
What takes the hours is writing it up, which if it only helps
Carlos, isn't worth it as the goal is to help thousands of people.
If you get a chance, it would be nice for you to test it out on
your Pixel (but maybe the Pixel has a native automatic call recorder?).
First off, I solved the OP's problem, which is the most important fact.
*Tutorial: Installing open-source automatic call recording (ACR) on Android 13+ Samsung Galaxy*
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/7mCHCktUuKw>
Looks complicated... that will take me some time.
3. What I like about GV is that it sends an email of any message to your
Google Account (which you can read on your computer if you like).
...
Google has announced they will removed the feature of sending texts and transcripts of voicemail to an e-mail address.
But Android universally disallows recording of phone calls. At most,
you can manage what goes on the speaker, but not your own mike.
The alternative that I read about the other day was application on apk
form, ie, not distributed by google play.
Does any one have suggestions, preferably with actual experience?
with <ks676nFc3tjU2@mid.individual.net> Carlos E. R. wrote:
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But Android universally disallows recording of phone calls. At most,
you can manage what goes on the speaker, but not your own mike.
I would say -- The G prohibitevely discourages such recordings. For instance, mine (no-brand, niche product) with
com.android.server.telecom APK (aka -- "Call Management") (besides two
other c.a.s.components.*) introduces com.mediatek.telecom.recording.PhoneRecorderServices . Then I guessed
what that rightmost circled dot (during outgoing phone call) does.
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The alternative that I read about the other day was application on apk
form, ie, not distributed by google play.
Does any one have suggestions, preferably with actual experience?
Well, hold yout breath. Fdroid distributes such thing as com.github.axet.callrecorder . OOH it suffers recent active(?)
development. Whatever it means -- I can't say, because, OTOH on A7 it's capable to record mic only. It has bunch of methods(?) on board,
doesn't seek root, and then mic only. So there's that.
What about a separate 'recorder' app and then putting your phone on speaker?
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