• Sending a fax to a cell phone.

    From micky@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 19 14:28:25 2023
    How to send a fax to a cell phone?

    I have a doctor who has neither a portal nor an email address! I can
    leave verbal messages iirc, and they push me to send faxes! like I'm
    living in the 90's. Plus I want something in writing so I can include details? (In the past the receptionist let me send an email to her, but
    only one of the two questions got addressed.)

    In the past there was no phone jack in the room with the printer/fax,
    but now I have FIOS fiber optic internet. (Even thought the printer
    sits on the bed across the aisle from the FIOS box, I can run a cord. It
    looks tacky, but oh well.)

    For testing purposes, I want to send myself a fax, to my cell phone I
    guess, so I've done that twice. Where is it? I look in the cell phone
    and there is no notification. Do I need to run to fax app? Do I need
    to have it running at the time I send the fax? Can I do this at all?


    2nd question you might know the answer to. The FIOS box has two phone
    jacks labeled L1 and L2. I only have one phone line, so that means that
    L2 is not going to do anything, is that right?

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to micky on Sun Nov 19 11:56:11 2023
    On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 14:28:25 -0500, micky wrote:
    For testing purposes, I want to send myself a fax, to my cell phone I
    guess, so I've done that twice. Where is it? I look in the cell phone
    and there is no notification. Do I need to run to fax app? Do I need
    to have it running at the time I send the fax? Can I do this at all?

    I would guess that you need a fax app on your phone. The Google Play
    Store turns up quite a few of them when searching for "fax" (no
    quotes).


    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 19 21:11:32 2023
    Am 19.11.23 um 20:28 schrieb micky:
    I have a doctor who has neither a portal nor an email address! I can
    leave verbal messages iirc, and they push me to send faxes! like I'm
    living in the 90's.

    Avoid this doctor at any price! Hist treatment ...

    --
    "Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

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  • From Carlos E. R.@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Sun Nov 19 21:59:53 2023
    On 2023-11-19 20:56, Stan Brown wrote:
    On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 14:28:25 -0500, micky wrote:
    For testing purposes, I want to send myself a fax, to my cell phone I
    guess, so I've done that twice. Where is it? I look in the cell phone
    and there is no notification. Do I need to run to fax app? Do I need
    to have it running at the time I send the fax? Can I do this at all?

    I would guess that you need a fax app on your phone. The Google Play
    Store turns up quite a few of them when searching for "fax" (no
    quotes).

    Or a fax service.

    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.

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  • From Carlos E. R.@21:1/5 to micky on Sun Nov 19 22:15:53 2023
    On 2023-11-19 20:28, micky wrote:
    How to send a fax to a cell phone?

    I have a doctor who has neither a portal nor an email address! I can
    leave verbal messages iirc, and they push me to send faxes! like I'm
    living in the 90's. Plus I want something in writing so I can include details? (In the past the receptionist let me send an email to her, but
    only one of the two questions got addressed.)

    Ugh. :-(


    Use paper mail. Really. No kidding.


    If it is a different city, Correos in Spain has a service where you
    email them a PDF and they print it on destination city, put the
    envelope, and deliver it to destination address. It is faster than Plain
    Old Mail.


    In the past there was no phone jack in the room with the printer/fax,
    but now I have FIOS fiber optic internet. (Even thought the printer
    sits on the bed across the aisle from the FIOS box, I can run a cord. It looks tacky, but oh well.)

    Warning.

    Old FAX may not work, or do it badly, over fiber (which is actually VoIP
    with an adapter to POTS).


    There is a "new" fax protocol designed to work over VoIP lines. You need
    a new machine having it. I don't have any experience with this system, I stopped working in the phone field before it appeared. I was there when
    the problems started, though, and there was no solution except "get both
    ends on POTS" or "modernize and switch to email".


    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fax>

    «Fax Over IP (FoIP) can transmit and receive pre-digitized documents at near-realtime[vague] speeds using ITU-T recommendation T.38 to send
    digitised images over an IP network using JPEG compression. T.38 is
    designed to work with VoIP services and often supported by analog
    telephone adapters used by legacy fax machines that need to connect
    through a VoIP service. Scanned documents are limited to the amount of
    time the user takes to load the document in a scanner and for the device
    to process a digital file. The resolution can vary from as little as 150
    DPI to 9600 DPI or more. This type of faxing is not related to the e-mail–to–fax service that still uses fax modems at least one way.»

    ...

    « * T.37 The ITU standard for sending a fax-image file via e-mail to the intended recipient of a fax.

    * T.38 The ITU standard for sending Fax over IP (FoIP).

    * G.711 pass through - this is where the T.30 fax call is carried in a
    VoIP call encoded as audio. This is sensitive to network packet loss,
    jitter and clock synchronization. When using voice high-compression
    encoding techniques such as, but not limited to, G.729, some fax tonal
    signals may not be correctly transported across the packet network.»



    I would recommend finding some text like fax for dummies in the XXI
    century. Dunno if anybody wrote it.



    For testing purposes, I want to send myself a fax, to my cell phone I
    guess, so I've done that twice. Where is it? I look in the cell phone
    and there is no notification. Do I need to run to fax app? Do I need
    to have it running at the time I send the fax? Can I do this at all?

    Ugh. I believe you need a fax forwarding service.



    2nd question you might know the answer to. The FIOS box has two phone
    jacks labeled L1 and L2. I only have one phone line, so that means that
    L2 is not going to do anything, is that right?

    My guess, and old memories:

    You remove your house phone from the wall socket.

    You connect L1 to the wall, and L2 to the phone.

    when you get a phone call, the fax answers; if it sees it is voice, it
    passes them to the phone(s) on L2.


    For sending purposes, you only need to connect L1 to the phone line. Be
    sure to configure your machine not to answer, or do so only manually.


    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.

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  • From Larry Wolff@21:1/5 to Carlos E. R. on Sun Nov 19 22:23:32 2023
    On 11/19/2023 3:59 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

    For testing purposes, I want to send myself a fax, to my cell phone I
    guess, so I've done that twice. Where is it? I look in the cell phone
    and there is no notification. Do I need to run to fax app? Do I need
    to have it running at the time I send the fax? Can I do this at all?

    I would guess that you need a fax app on your phone. The Google Play
    Store turns up quite a few of them when searching for "fax" (no
    quotes).

    Or a fax service.

    I used the FaxBurner fax service in the past to receive faxes on my phone. https://www.faxburner.com/blog/how-to-receive-a-fax-on-your-smartphone/

    There's also MyFax app fax services for receiving faxes on Android. https://www.myfax.com/support/how-to-videos/receive-a-fax-with-the-android-app

    And with FaxReceive, you can pay for each fax on a pay as you go basis https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.actualsoftware.faxreceive

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to micky on Mon Nov 20 08:24:37 2023
    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
    How to send a fax to a cell phone?

    I have a doctor who has neither a portal nor an email address! I can
    leave verbal messages iirc, and they push me to send faxes! like I'm
    living in the 90's. Plus I want something in writing so I can include details? (In the past the receptionist let me send an email to her, but
    only one of the two questions got addressed.)

    Write them a letter and get them to provide a written response which can
    you pick up in person. I had to do that last year for a travel insurance
    claim last year.

    What kind of archaic practice is this? Even the Nhs has banned fax
    machines. https://cpe.org.uk/digital-and-technology/communications-across-healthcare-it/use-of-fax-machines-in-the-nhs/

    In the past there was no phone jack in the room with the printer/fax,
    but now I have FIOS fiber optic internet. (Even thought the printer
    sits on the bed across the aisle from the FIOS box, I can run a cord. It looks tacky, but oh well.)

    For testing purposes, I want to send myself a fax, to my cell phone I
    guess, so I've done that twice. Where is it? I look in the cell phone
    and there is no notification. Do I need to run to fax app? Do I need
    to have it running at the time I send the fax? Can I do this at all?

    Honestly this is a waste of time. There's always a better solution to afax.

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  • From Carlos E. R.@21:1/5 to Chris on Mon Nov 20 13:46:03 2023
    On 2023-11-20 09:24, Chris wrote:
    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
    How to send a fax to a cell phone?

    I have a doctor who has neither a portal nor an email address! I can
    leave verbal messages iirc, and they push me to send faxes! like I'm
    living in the 90's. Plus I want something in writing so I can include
    details? (In the past the receptionist let me send an email to her, but
    only one of the two questions got addressed.)

    Write them a letter and get them to provide a written response which can
    you pick up in person. I had to do that last year for a travel insurance claim last year.

    What kind of archaic practice is this? Even the Nhs has banned fax
    machines. https://cpe.org.uk/digital-and-technology/communications-across-healthcare-it/use-of-fax-machines-in-the-nhs/

    Japan was using faxes quite a lot recently. I have the vague feeling
    that the government intervened maybe a year ago to put a stop to it.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2023/6/1/fax-machines-and-cash-only-stores-japan-struggles-to-go-digital

    https://theconversation.com/japans-love-affair-with-the-fax-machine-a-strange-relic-of-technological-fantasies-168674

    And more articles, just google for "japan and faxes"


    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to R." on Mon Nov 20 10:31:58 2023
    In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 19 Nov 2023 21:59:53 +0100, "Carlos E.
    R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    On 2023-11-19 20:56, Stan Brown wrote:
    On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 14:28:25 -0500, micky wrote:
    For testing purposes, I want to send myself a fax, to my cell phone I
    guess, so I've done that twice. Where is it? I look in the cell phone
    and there is no notification. Do I need to run to fax app? Do I need
    to have it running at the time I send the fax? Can I do this at all?

    I would guess that you need a fax app on your phone. The Google Play
    Store turns up quite a few of them when searching for "fax" (no
    quotes).

    Or a fax service.

    Yeah;, I've used a service to send faxes from my email and one to send
    me email when it getr a fax, but didn't find one that would do both for
    free. In this case, I'm asking for a reply and I can imagine the
    doctor's uncooperative office staff faxing me back to the number on the
    fax they get, ignoring the fax number I've included in my text.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to larrywolff@larrywolff.net on Mon Nov 20 10:42:22 2023
    In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 19 Nov 2023 22:23:32 -0500, Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> wrote:

    On 11/19/2023 3:59 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

    For testing purposes, I want to send myself a fax, to my cell phone I
    guess, so I've done that twice. Where is it? I look in the cell phone >>>> and there is no notification. Do I need to run to fax app? Do I need >>>> to have it running at the time I send the fax? Can I do this at all?

    I would guess that you need a fax app on your phone. The Google Play
    Store turns up quite a few of them when searching for "fax" (no
    quotes).

    Or a fax service.

    I used the FaxBurner fax service in the past to receive faxes on my phone. >https://www.faxburner.com/blog/how-to-receive-a-fax-on-your-smartphone/

    There's also MyFax app fax services for receiving faxes on Android. >https://www.myfax.com/support/how-to-videos/receive-a-fax-with-the-android-app

    And with FaxReceive, you can pay for each fax on a pay as you go basis >https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.actualsoftware.faxreceive

    Very helpful.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to R." on Mon Nov 20 10:41:55 2023
    In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 19 Nov 2023 22:15:53 +0100, "Carlos E.
    R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    On 2023-11-19 20:28, micky wrote:
    How to send a fax to a cell phone?

    I have a doctor who has neither a portal nor an email address! I can
    leave verbal messages iirc, and they push me to send faxes! like I'm
    living in the 90's. Plus I want something in writing so I can include
    details? (In the past the receptionist let me send an email to her, but
    only one of the two questions got addressed.)

    Ugh. :-(


    Use paper mail. Really. No kidding.


    If it is a different city, Correos in Spain has a service where you
    email them a PDF and they print it on destination city, put the
    envelope, and deliver it to destination address. It is faster than Plain
    Old Mail.


    In the past there was no phone jack in the room with the printer/fax,
    but now I have FIOS fiber optic internet. (Even thought the printer
    sits on the bed across the aisle from the FIOS box, I can run a cord. It
    looks tacky, but oh well.)

    Warning.

    Old FAX may not work, or do it badly, over fiber (which is actually VoIP

    Darn. I almost need a new printer/fax because the red color has
    clogged in this one and several attempts to clean it have failed.

    But the reason I'm posting here is because I actually dreamt about the
    printer last night. I wasn't thinking about it when I awoke, but your
    post, seen 15 minutes after my waking up, reminded me that I had images
    in my dream of all three colors coming from my printer!!

    I still don't want to buy another one. I don't really need red, I don't
    really need color printing that I do less than once in 2 years.

    with an adapter to POTS).


    There is a "new" fax protocol designed to work over VoIP lines. You need
    a new machine having it. I don't have any experience with this system, I >stopped working in the phone field before it appeared. I was there when
    the problems started, though, and there was no solution except "get both
    ends on POTS" or "modernize and switch to email".


    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fax>

    «Fax Over IP (FoIP) can transmit and receive pre-digitized documents at >near-realtime[vague] speeds using ITU-T recommendation T.38 to send
    digitised images over an IP network using JPEG compression. T.38 is

    Complicated. I will read this later. If I ever do buy another
    printer/fax, I will note whether it if FoIP or not.

    designed to work with VoIP services and often supported by analog
    telephone adapters used by legacy fax machines that need to connect
    through a VoIP service. Scanned documents are limited to the amount of
    time the user takes to load the document in a scanner and for the device
    to process a digital file. The resolution can vary from as little as 150
    DPI to 9600 DPI or more. This type of faxing is not related to the >e-mail–to–fax service that still uses fax modems at least one way.»

    ...

    « * T.37 The ITU standard for sending a fax-image file via e-mail to the >intended recipient of a fax.

    * T.38 The ITU standard for sending Fax over IP (FoIP).

    * G.711 pass through - this is where the T.30 fax call is carried in a
    VoIP call encoded as audio. This is sensitive to network packet loss,
    jitter and clock synchronization. When using voice high-compression
    encoding techniques such as, but not limited to, G.729, some fax tonal >signals may not be correctly transported across the packet network.»



    I would recommend finding some text like fax for dummies in the XXI
    century. Dunno if anybody wrote it.



    For testing purposes, I want to send myself a fax, to my cell phone I
    guess, so I've done that twice. Where is it? I look in the cell phone
    and there is no notification. Do I need to run to fax app? Do I need
    to have it running at the time I send the fax? Can I do this at all?

    Ugh. I believe you need a fax forwarding service.



    2nd question you might know the answer to. The FIOS box has two phone
    jacks labeled L1 and L2. I only have one phone line, so that means that
    L2 is not going to do anything, is that right?

    My guess, and old memories:

    You remove your house phone from the wall socket.

    You connect L1 to the wall, and L2 to the phone.

    when you get a phone call, the fax answers; if it sees it is voice, it
    passes them to the phone(s) on L2.


    For sending purposes, you only need to connect L1 to the phone line. Be
    sure to configure your machine not to answer, or do so only manually.


    I didn't get this all done yesterday but I have high hopes for today.

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Carlos E. R. on Mon Nov 20 11:09:11 2023
    On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 22:15:53 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2023-11-19 20:28, micky wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    leave verbal messages iirc, and they push me to send faxes! like I'm
    living in the 90's. Plus I want something in writing so I can include details? (In the past the receptionist let me send an email to her, but only one of the two questions got addressed.)

    Use paper mail. Really. No kidding.

    I meant to suggest this but forgot, so thank you for bringing it up.

    If it is a different city, Correos in Spain has a service where you
    email them a PDF and they print it on destination city, put the
    envelope, and deliver it to destination address. It is faster than Plain
    Old Mail.

    As far as I know, nothing like this exists in the US, unless some
    private company is doing it. I imagine it would be expensive even if
    it exists.

    But since this is micky's doctor, the office is probably not a huge
    distance from micky's home, so snail-mail shouldn't take more than a
    couple of days.

    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Mon Nov 20 11:16:03 2023
    On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 11:56:11 -0800, Stan Brown wrote:

    On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 14:28:25 -0500, micky wrote:
    For testing purposes, I want to send myself a fax, to my cell phone I guess, so I've done that twice. Where is it? I look in the cell phone
    and there is no notification. Do I need to run to fax app? Do I need
    to have it running at the time I send the fax? Can I do this at all?

    I would guess that you need a fax app on your phone. The Google Play
    Store turns up quite a few of them when searching for "fax" (no
    quotes).

    An additional option is to go to a UPS Store, Postal ASAP, or
    similar. The UPS Store's website says you can send and receive faxes
    there; ditto Staples. Postal ASAP also offers faxing, according to
    their website -- they're in Tehachapi only, but similar businesses
    probably exist most places. Heck, I'll bet some libraries even offer
    faxing as a service, just as they do printing.

    I suggest this (or postal mail) because it may be less hassle than
    getting an app set up. What would you do if the doctor's office sends
    you a fax but you find you can't receive it? I doubt they'd be
    receptive to helping to troubleshoot your fax app.

    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From Arno Welzel@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 25 12:51:57 2023
    micky, 2023-11-19 20:28:

    How to send a fax to a cell phone?

    *To* a cell phone? Or *from* a cell phone?

    I have a doctor who has neither a portal nor an email address! I can
    leave verbal messages iirc, and they push me to send faxes! like I'm
    living in the 90's. Plus I want something in writing so I can include details? (In the past the receptionist let me send an email to her, but
    only one of the two questions got addressed.)

    There are online fax services - for example see here:

    <https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-online-fax-services>

    And there are also Android apps for that:

    <https://play.google.com/store/search?q=fax&c=apps&hl=en>

    --
    Arno Welzel
    https://arnowelzel.de

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  • From Carlos E. R.@21:1/5 to micky on Sat Nov 25 14:13:05 2023
    On 2023-11-20 16:31, micky wrote:
    In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 19 Nov 2023 21:59:53 +0100, "Carlos E.
    R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    On 2023-11-19 20:56, Stan Brown wrote:
    On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 14:28:25 -0500, micky wrote:
    For testing purposes, I want to send myself a fax, to my cell phone I
    guess, so I've done that twice. Where is it? I look in the cell phone >>>> and there is no notification. Do I need to run to fax app? Do I need >>>> to have it running at the time I send the fax? Can I do this at all?

    I would guess that you need a fax app on your phone. The Google Play
    Store turns up quite a few of them when searching for "fax" (no
    quotes).

    Or a fax service.

    Yeah;, I've used a service to send faxes from my email and one to send
    me email when it getr a fax, but didn't find one that would do both for
    free. In this case, I'm asking for a reply and I can imagine the
    doctor's uncooperative office staff faxing me back to the number on the
    fax they get, ignoring the fax number I've included in my text.

    Use paper mail. Seriously.

    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.

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  • From Carlos E. R.@21:1/5 to micky on Sat Nov 25 14:21:06 2023
    On 2023-11-20 16:41, micky wrote:
    In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 19 Nov 2023 22:15:53 +0100, "Carlos E.
    R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    On 2023-11-19 20:28, micky wrote:
    How to send a fax to a cell phone?

    ...

    In the past there was no phone jack in the room with the printer/fax,
    but now I have FIOS fiber optic internet. (Even thought the printer
    sits on the bed across the aisle from the FIOS box, I can run a cord. It >>> looks tacky, but oh well.)

    Warning.

    Old FAX may not work, or do it badly, over fiber (which is actually VoIP

    Darn. I almost need a new printer/fax because the red color has
    clogged in this one and several attempts to clean it have failed.

    But the reason I'm posting here is because I actually dreamt about the printer last night. I wasn't thinking about it when I awoke, but your
    post, seen 15 minutes after my waking up, reminded me that I had images
    in my dream of all three colors coming from my printer!!

    I still don't want to buy another one. I don't really need red, I don't really need color printing that I do less than once in 2 years.

    There are B/W laser printers, double side, at very nice prices.

    ...

    I just did a quick google, and found several companies in Spain that do sending/receiving of faxes for a fee. If I had to send faxes, I would
    use them.

    Only if I had a job somewhere that wanted to do faxing, I would then
    seriously investigate the matter and buy adequate hardware.

    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to usenet@arnowelzel.de on Mon Nov 27 16:44:01 2023
    In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 25 Nov 2023 12:51:57 +0100, Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:

    micky, 2023-11-19 20:28:

    How to send a fax to a cell phone?

    *To* a cell phone? Or *from* a cell phone?

    I have a doctor who has neither a portal nor an email address! I can
    leave verbal messages iirc, and they push me to send faxes! like I'm
    living in the 90's. Plus I want something in writing so I can include
    details? (In the past the receptionist let me send an email to her, but
    only one of the two questions got addressed.)

    There are online fax services - for example see here:

    <https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-online-fax-services>

    Thanks.

    And there are also Android apps for that:

    <https://play.google.com/store/search?q=fax&c=apps&hl=en>

    Thanks again.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to R." on Mon Nov 27 16:43:13 2023
    In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 25 Nov 2023 14:21:06 +0100, "Carlos E.
    R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    On 2023-11-20 16:41, micky wrote:
    In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 19 Nov 2023 22:15:53 +0100, "Carlos E.
    R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    On 2023-11-19 20:28, micky wrote:
    How to send a fax to a cell phone?

    ...

    In the past there was no phone jack in the room with the printer/fax,
    but now I have FIOS fiber optic internet. (Even thought the printer
    sits on the bed across the aisle from the FIOS box, I can run a cord. It >>>> looks tacky, but oh well.)

    Warning.

    Old FAX may not work, or do it badly, over fiber (which is actually VoIP

    Darn. I almost need a new printer/fax because the red color has
    clogged in this one and several attempts to clean it have failed.

    But the reason I'm posting here is because I actually dreamt about the
    printer last night. I wasn't thinking about it when I awoke, but your
    post, seen 15 minutes after my waking up, reminded me that I had images
    in my dream of all three colors coming from my printer!!

    I still don't want to buy another one. I don't really need red, I don't
    really need color printing that I do less than once in 2 years.

    There are B/W laser printers, double side, at very nice prices.

    ...

    I just did a quick google, and found several companies in Spain that do >sending/receiving of faxes for a fee. If I had to send faxes, I would
    use them.

    Only if I had a job somewhere that wanted to do faxing, I would then >seriously investigate the matter and buy adequate hardware.

    Well the printer above is a scanner/printer/copier/fax and it's wireless because there is no room in this room for a printer, but for years there
    was no phone jack in the other room. When I got FIOS fiberoptic they
    installed two boxes, one in the next bedroom and one next to my desk in
    this room, and by golly the first box has a jack, so I plugged it in and
    tried to send the fax. Get this, after their insistence that I should
    use FAX, THE OTHER NUMBER DIDN'T ANSWER. It's not that it was busy
    taking or sending another fax. It just didn't answer.

    So I sent the secretary an email last Tuesday. Thursday was a holiday
    here and the office might have been closed on Friday too, and now it's
    4:45 Monday aftenoon and no answer yet. (I just called the fax number on
    the phone and it did answer. So I'll send a fax... Wow that turned into
    a computer problem, and it didn't get sent. more maybe later when I
    know more. )

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