On 11/11/23 8:42 AM, jgd@cix.co.uk wrote:
The quality of battery management software on devices tends to beDunno. The wife's iPhone battery swelled up like a balloon causing
related to price. Since all the iPads I've treated this way were
expensive iPad Pros, the lack of swelling isn't too surprising.
the case to pop open some years back and it wasn't a cheap phone...
(AJL) wrote:
The wife's iPhone battery swelled up like a balloon causing the
case to pop open some years back and it wasn't a cheap phone...
Did she carry it on her person a lot of the time? That will increase
the average temperature, and that's definitely related to
degradation rates. The devices in my experiments have never been used
as personal devices, so I tend to forget about that factor.
It could also be a plain manufacturing defect. Everyone gets those occasionally, and eliminating them /completely/ in batteries, which inevitably degrade with use, isn't possible.
On 11/11/2023 9:53 AM, John Dallman wrote:
(AJL) wrote:
The wife's iPhone battery swelled up like a balloon causing the
case to pop open some years back and it wasn't a cheap phone...
Did she carry it on her person a lot of the time? That will increase
the average temperature, and that's definitely related to
degradation rates. The devices in my experiments have never been used
as personal devices, so I tend to forget about that factor.
She always carried it in her purse and it was a cool day. Funny thing
was that the phone still worked even with the battery expanded. I kept
it on a cookie sheet for 3 days (fire prevention insurance) until the
new battery came (from Amazon of course). It was a $30US kit that
included tools. After replacement the phone worked another year until
given to a grandkid and as long as he had it it never had another
battery problem.
It could also be a plain manufacturing defect. Everyone gets those
occasionally, and eliminating them /completely/ in batteries, which
inevitably degrade with use, isn't possible.
Yup. That was the only battery problem I've ever had over the years with
any of my stuff from cheap to expensive, various brands, various OSs...
Well, that's not quite true. I was putting a laptop back together and
put a long screw where a short screw was supposed to go and punctured
the battery. I still remember the flame shooting out. Scary. I was able
to carry it outside and throw it on the rocks (rock yard - we try to
conserve water here in the desert). But I guess I can't blame that one
on the battery now can I...
On 2023-11-11 18:53, AJL wrote:
I was putting a laptop back together and put a long screw where a
short screw was supposed to go and punctured the battery. I still
remember the flame shooting out. Scary. I was able to carry it
outside and throw it on the rocks (rock yard - we try to conserve
water here in the desert).
Were you lucky enough to separate the battery from the laptop in
time, or were both destroyed? I guess not...
She always carried it in her purse and it was a cool day.
On 11/11/2023 12:38 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2023-11-11 18:53, AJL wrote:
I was putting a laptop back together and put a long screw where a
short screw was supposed to go and punctured the battery. I still
remember the flame shooting out. Scary. I was able to carry it
outside and throw it on the rocks (rock yard - we try to conserve
water here in the desert).
Were you lucky enough to separate the battery from the laptop in
time, or were both destroyed? I guess not...
They were both destroyed. However I still considered myself lucky to be
able get it out of the house without injury to me or causing a larger
fire...
I was putting a laptop back together and
put a long screw where a short screw was supposed to go and punctured
the battery. I still remember the flame shooting out. Scary. I was able
to carry it outside and throw it on the rocks (rock yard - we try to
conserve water here in the desert). But I guess I can't blame that one
on the battery now can I...
On 11/11/23 09:53, AJL wrote:
I was putting a laptop back together and
put a long screw where a short screw was supposed to go and punctured
the battery. I still remember the flame shooting out. Scary. I was able
to carry it outside and throw it on the rocks (rock yard - we try to
conserve water here in the desert). But I guess I can't blame that one
on the battery now can I...
Hi ALJ,
I feel your pain. Hopefully you were not married
at the time. Women NEVER forget that kind of
screw up.
When I am working on a customer's laptop, I try my
best to keep track of what screw came out of where.
A piece of tape across them keeps from having to dig
around on the floor looking for them. And a magnetic
screwdriver helps too.
On 2023-11-12 06:19, T wrote:
On 11/11/23 09:53, AJL wrote:
I was putting a laptop back together and
put a long screw where a short screw was supposed to go and punctured
the battery. I still remember the flame shooting out. Scary. I was able
to carry it outside and throw it on the rocks (rock yard - we try to
conserve water here in the desert). But I guess I can't blame that one
on the battery now can I...
Hi ALJ,
I feel your pain. Hopefully you were not married
at the time. Women NEVER forget that kind of
screw up.
When I am working on a customer's laptop, I try my
best to keep track of what screw came out of where.
A piece of tape across them keeps from having to dig
around on the floor looking for them. And a magnetic
screwdriver helps too.
Put them stuck to a paper or some thing in the same position as they
were in the device.
Only if you find they are all identical you can group them.
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