<https://clark.com/cell-phones/t-mobile-forced-plan-migration/>
You can opt out by contacting T-Mobile. If you don't opt out then you
will be migrated to a higher cost plan if you are on an affected plan.
Note that the statement of "...consider a cheaper cell phone service
provider that runs on the same network..." leaves out the key issue
of domestic (and international) roaming. An MVNO like Mint or Tello
has a lot less geographic coverage, both domestic and international,
than T-Mobile or Metro.
By making the migration "opt-out" instead of "opt-in" millions of
customers will be upgraded to more expensive plans even though they
don't want to be.
<https://clark.com/cell-phones/t-mobile-forced-plan-migration/>
You can opt out by contacting T-Mobile. If you don't opt out then you
will be migrated to a higher cost plan if you are on an affected plan.
By making the migration "opt-out" instead of "opt-in" millions of
customers will be upgraded to more expensive plans even though they
don't want to be.
<https://clark.com/cell-phones/t-mobile-forced-plan-migration/>
You can opt out by contacting T-Mobile. If you don't opt out then you
will be migrated to a higher cost plan if you are on an affected plan.
Note that the statement of "...consider a cheaper cell phone service
provider that runs on the same network..." leaves out the key issue of domestic (and international) roaming. An MVNO like Mint or Tello has a
lot less geographic coverage, both domestic and international, than
T-Mobile or Metro.
By making the migration "opt-out" instead of "opt-in" millions of
customers will be upgraded to more expensive plans even though they
don't want to be.
I did not receive a message about a forced upgrade. I am on Magenta
Military plan which I switched to several months ago for no change in
price.
Taking advantage of people not realizing, classic.
The T-Mobile narrative is precious: "We are not raising the price of any
of our plans; we are moving you to a newer plan with more benefits at a different cost."
On 10/17/23 13:07, sms wrote:
<https://clark.com/cell-phones/t-mobile-forced-plan-migration/>
You can opt out by contacting T-Mobile. If you don't opt out then you
will be migrated to a higher cost plan if you are on an affected plan.
How long did the call take?
By making the migration "opt-out" instead of "opt-in" millions of
customers will be upgraded to more expensive plans even though they
don't want to be.
Taking advantage of people not realizing, classic.
This "migration" has received extensive bad publicity so hopefully a lot
more people are aware of it than would normally be expected. T-Mobile initially had a way to opt out by going to your account page and
checking the opt out box but that was removed.
The good news is that you can still get free Crazy Bread at Little
Caesars every Tuesday.
On 10/17/2023 11:48 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
On 10/17/23 13:07, sms wrote:
<https://clark.com/cell-phones/t-mobile-forced-plan-migration/>
You can opt out by contacting T-Mobile. If you don't opt out then you
will be migrated to a higher cost plan if you are on an affected plan.
How long did the call take?
I don't know since I don't have T-Mobile service.
The T-Mobile narrative is precious: "We are not raising the price of any
of our plans; we are moving you to a newer plan with more benefits at a different cost."
By making the migration "opt-out" instead of "opt-in" millions of
customers will be upgraded to more expensive plans even though they
don't want to be.
Taking advantage of people not realizing, classic.
Yeah, I ran into this recently with Xfinity. All of a sudden my monthly
price went up by 25% and I had to call them to get a credit. I finally figured out what happened. What happened is that they are removing the autopay discount if you use a credit card but this doesn't take effect
until, and if, you renew your contract. But I suspect that they have
hundreds of thousands of customers, that are under contract, that didn't notice. I only noticed because they send out an e-mail every month with
the amount I am being charged and I noticed that it had gone up even
though the contract is not up until January 2024.
On 2023-10-17 14:07, sms wrote:
<https://clark.com/cell-phones/t-mobile-forced-plan-migration/>
You can opt out by contacting T-Mobile. If you don't opt out then you
will be migrated to a higher cost plan if you are on an affected plan.
Note that the statement of "...consider a cheaper cell phone service
provider that runs on the same network..." leaves out the key issue of
domestic (and international) roaming. An MVNO like Mint or Tello has a
lot less geographic coverage, both domestic and international, than
T-Mobile or Metro.
By making the migration "opt-out" instead of "opt-in" millions of
customers will be upgraded to more expensive plans even though they
don't want to be.
This is where social media can come in handy.
Spread the word and provide all the info on how to opt-out.
Loudly and CC to local media.
On 2023-10-17 21:50, Wally J wrote:
sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote
Why are you adding the alt.comp.os.windows-10 to what is solely a phone related issue?
I don't see the word "Windows" in your post.
Please do not add unrelated groups to your posts.
On 2023-10-17 21:50, Wally J wrote:
sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote
Why are you adding the alt.comp.os.windows-10 to what is solely a phone related issue?
I don't see the word "Windows" in your post.
Please do not add unrelated groups to your posts.
On 10/17/23 15:21, Wally J wrote:
candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote
So, do they ignore your request if you don't phrase it as "adding the
feature"?
I don't fully understand your question but I'll answer it this way.
I'm saying if you just asked to "not migrate". If you didn't say "add
the feature "Plan Migration Optout".
My advice is everyone on T-Mobile call 611 right now and tell them to
put this "feature" on your plan so that they won't "upgrade" you to
Magenta. "Plan Migration Optout"
On 10/17/23 13:07, sms wrote:
<https://clark.com/cell-phones/t-mobile-forced-plan-migration/>
You can opt out by contacting T-Mobile. If you don't opt out then you
will be migrated to a higher cost plan if you are on an affected plan.
How long did the call take?
By making the migration "opt-out" instead of "opt-in" millions of
customers will be upgraded to more expensive plans even though they
don't want to be.
Taking advantage of people not realizing, classic.
Taking advantage of people not realizing, classic.
The article said affected people were notified. Theyre not taking
advantage of ignorant people.
I logged on to my account and didn't see a way to opt out so I called
them. They insisted Magenta Military will not be changed -- ever. I questioned the "ever" claim but they persisted. I still wanted to opt
out for future forced changes but they said it can't be done.
Nothing more I can do.
candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote
On 10/17/23 15:21, Wally J wrote:
candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote
So, do they ignore your request if you don't phrase it as "adding the
feature"?
I don't fully understand your question but I'll answer it this way.
I'm saying if you just asked to "not migrate". If you didn't say "add
the feature "Plan Migration Optout".
I'm sure TMobile doesn't need the exact keywords for you to opt out.
<https://clark.com/cell-phones/t-mobile-forced-plan-migration/>
The article said affected people were notified. They’re not taking advantage of ignorant people.
T-Mobile is not alone in these sleazy tactics.
This just screams "Class Action Lawsuit" because of T-Mobile's earlier
"Price Lock Guarantee." You can just see them in court: "Your honor, we
did not increase the price of anyone's plan, we simply moved them to a
more expensive plan after they didn't tell us not to do this." I imagine
that the class action attorneys already preparing their television ads
to go along with the Camp Lejune and mesothelioma ads.
Note that the statement of "...consider a cheaper cell phone service >provider that runs on the same network..." leaves out the key issue of >domestic (and international) roaming. An MVNO like Mint or Tello has a
lot less geographic coverage, both domestic and international, than
T-Mobile or Metro.
I don't know anything about international coverage, but regarding
Mint's (I use Mint) domestic coverage, how can it be a lot less than T-Mobile's since it uses T-Mobile's network?
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 11:33:09 -0700, sms wrote:
I don't know anything about international coverage, but regarding
Mint's (I use Mint) domestic coverage, how can it be a lot less than
T-Mobile's since it uses T-Mobile's network?
T-Mobile provides a lot of domestic roaming.
Aren't you on record for often saying T-Mobile roaming is very few towers?
I don't know anything about international coverage, but regarding
Mint's (I use Mint) domestic coverage, how can it be a lot less than
T-Mobile's since it uses T-Mobile's network?
T-Mobile provides a lot of domestic roaming.
On 10/18/2023 7:04 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
<snip>
I don't know anything about international coverage, but regarding
Mint's (I use Mint) domestic coverage, how can it be a lot less than
T-Mobile's since it uses T-Mobile's network?
T-Mobile provides a lot of domestic roaming. Their MVNOs, other than >Google-Fi do not. With Mint, Tello, Hello, etc., you get no coverage at
all in places Alaska, as well as no coverage in many of the more rural
areas of the western U.S..
The T-Mobile domestic roaming includes very little data, 200MB per
billing cycle, but at least you get unlimited SMS and voice. Data
roaming costs T-Mobile a lot of money so they have to limit it.
Google-Fi doesn't have that domestic roaming data limit, they charge for >data on their by the GB plans of course, but on their unlimited plans
there is no extra charge.
But if you never travel to the areas where T-Mobile doesn't have a
native network then you would not notice any difference.
T-Mobile provides a lot of domestic roaming.
Aren't you on record for often saying T-Mobile roaming is very few towers?
No.
The issue is that if T-Mobile has a network presence in an area then
they don't allow roaming even in spots with no coverage. That is the
issue in the San Francisco Bay Area. If you're on T-Mobile then you
can't roam onto AT&T or Verizon (other than 911 calls) even though
T-Mobile lacks any coverage in many of the less populated areas.
Or you could just move to Mint Mobile, a Tmobile MVNO. That's what I did
6 years ago. I pay $25/mth for the 20gb plan, that's the rate when you pay for
a year at a time. Right now they have a promo going on, any plan for $15/mth >>for the first 3 months. So you can get the 40gb plan for that, after it's $30/mth
if you pay for a year, $35 is you pay for 6 months, $40 if you pay for 3 months.
Works great for me.
I pay Mint $20/moth for 15 gigs. (It used to be less data for the same price, but they raised it a year or two ago. for everyone.)
I assume Wally means, by 4 phones, four lines.
Not one line with 3 extensions, LOL
And Mint which afaik is among the cheapest for one
line doens't seem to give a discount for more than one. So if I had 4
lines, I'd be paying the same as Wally but each would only have 15
gigs. And wally's are all unlimited!!!
So he has a bettr rate with Tmobile than I would have with Mint.
Didn't I get that right?
OK, thanks. I never travel at all, anymore.
In my area, most people do travel at least around the greater Bay Area
where coverage greatly varies when you leave the core urban area of each county. I can drive ten minutes into the surrounding foothills of my
town and be in an area with no AT&T or T-Mobile coverage, according to
both the carrier's maps as well as the FCC maps.
I didn't analyze the math, just responded to his desire to move to a lower cost provider in general. Looking at it now, looks to me like he's saying the new pricing will be $190 for 6 lines.
So you're right, for unlimited that's
about $32 a line. If unlimited is really needed on all of them, I would not move, hard to beat that. When you have multiple lines, the big three can
be very competitive. If 5gb is enough, then it would be $15/mth at Mint
if you buy a year at a time.
The only multiple line thing at Mint is that you can use the family plan option which allows one account to manage the other ones and if you
pay for a year at a time, you can pay it quarterly instead of all up front.
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