Chrome is baked into Android System WebView the same way that WebKit is
baked into iOS.
adb connect 192.168.1.4:44285
adb shell pm dump com.google.android.webview
adb shell am force-stop com.google.android.webview
adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.google.android.webview
adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.webview
1. Moments ago I read an adult response on the Apple newsgroup
by "Dorper" who said this with respect to WebKit/WebView...
"Chrome is baked into Android System WebView
the same way that WebKit is baked into iOS."
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/00kPfbl3UR4/m/toGEPfyGCgAJ>
2. Hmmm... I know all about WebKit but I had never heard of WebView prior.
3. So I did some research, and a test, which I would like to flesh
out in its own thread - which is why I just opened this thread.
If you know more than I do about the differences between WebKit and
WebView - please add value to this comparative discussion (which might not
be hard given I had never heard of WebView until this very moment that
Dorper contrasted it with WebKit).
In summary - the goal of this thread is to compare and contrast
Apple's pervasive WebKit with Google's pervasive WebView.
=====< below is the post I just wrote testing WebView >=====
On 6 Oct 2023, Dorper <usenet@dorper.me>
Message-ID: <E145C170.1DB9%usenet@dorper.me>
wrote in
misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system:
Chrome is baked into Android System WebView the same way that WebKit is
baked into iOS.
WebView? I had never heard of Android System WebView before.
It was here.
<https://i.postimg.cc/8kfsyKdV/webview01.jpg> WebView is here
Now it's gone.
<https://i.postimg.cc/dtLBhFqh/webview02.jpg> WebView is gone
Now it's gone.
<https://i.postimg.cc/dtLBhFqh/webview02.jpg> WebView is gone
That's a claim it's gone.
Not proof.
Not even evidence.
First hit:
*Android System WebView* by Google LLC,3.7star,8.52M reviews.5B+Downloads*
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.webview>
Android WebView is a pre-installed system component from Google
that allows Android apps to display web content.
*What is Android System WebView? Is it Safe to Disable it?*
<https://appuals.com/android-system-webview/>
"Android System WebView is a pre-installed app that is responsible for displaying web content without opening the respective web browser."
This article says "there are two ways to open web content on an Android device: You can use a traditional web browser or an Android application
that includes WebView in the layout."
<https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/definition/Android-Webview>
That article further explains that "A developer who wants to add browser functionality to an application can include the WebView library and create
an instance of a WebView class", but that a more privacy-tuned developer
"can use third-party code instead of WebView or alternative Android
browsers to perform the same task."
Furthermore "Rather than having every app use its own built-in web browser that can render the same way Google Chrome's blink engine does, Google has provided a built-in system component that just works", so it's the Chrome engine that they're including (as Dorper had indicated).
<https://www.androidcentral.com/what-android-system-webview-and-why-do-so-many-apps-depend-it>
So it's up to the app whether or not it includes WebView inside the app.
Where did this fuckin' ignoramus come from that claims adb can't uninstall system apps from the user space when everyone on Android who knows anything about Android has been doing just that since the very beginning of time?
Is he an Apple wanna-be wonka who doesn't know his shit from his asshole?
Read this you stupid fuck before you go on with your Apple excrement again. [https://www.makeuseof.com/uninstall-android-app-adb-system-apps-bloatware/]
On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 20:18:18 -0700, Alan wrote:
Now it's gone.
<https://i.postimg.cc/dtLBhFqh/webview02.jpg> WebView is gone
That's a claim it's gone.
Not proof.
Not even evidence.
Where did this fuckin' ignoramus come from that claims adb can't uninstall system apps from the user space when everyone on Android who knows anything about Android has been doing just that since the very beginning of time?
Is he an Apple wanna-be wonka who doesn't know his shit from his asshole?
Read this you stupid fuck before you go on with your Apple excrement again. [https://www.makeuseof.com/uninstall-android-app-adb-system-apps-bloatware/]
I think a lot of people are afraid for no good reason about deleting some
of these Google packages - the Android System WebView being one of them.
On 10/8/23 00:15, Wally J wrote:
I think a lot of people are afraid for no good reason about deleting some
of these Google packages - the Android System WebView being one of them.
Probably scared of messing with anything pre-installed, in case it
breaks something. Most don't really see the point of it.
In summary, I'm testing what happens first with Android System Webview removed from the user partition - and - after that - I'll see if I can swap out the Bromite WebView on an unrooted device (that might require root).
On 10/8/23 00:15, Wally J wrote:
I think a lot of people are afraid for no good reason about deleting some
of these Google packages - the Android System WebView being one of them.
Probably scared of messing with anything pre-installed, in case it
breaks something. Most don't really see the point of it.
On 2023-10-08 05:42:37 +0000, candycanearter07 said:
On 10/8/23 00:15, Wally J wrote:
I think a lot of people are afraid for no good reason about deleting
some
of these Google packages - the Android System WebView being one of them.
Probably scared of messing with anything pre-installed, in case it
breaks something. Most don't really see the point of it.
Most people simply use their devices. They don't even know 90% of what
is on there and couldn't care less. As long as the device works for what
they need (which is basically a gloried pager to receive text messages), they're happy.
It's only the nerds who even think about continually mucking about with
their devices.
Which is fair, but unfortunately companies take advantage of it by
including spyware programs that aren't needed.
adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.google.android.partnetsetup<https://yoodley.com/google-partner-setup/>
I think a lot of people are afraid for no good reason about deleting some
of these Google packages - the Android System WebView being one of them.
Probably scared of messing with anything pre-installed, in case it
breaks something. Most don't really see the point of it.
candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote
Which is fair, but unfortunately companies take advantage of it by
including spyware programs that aren't needed.
If people think consumer operating systems are complicated, then they've never worked with truly complex software as I have in the Silicon Valley.
Android has a lot of packages - but I've already deleted scores of them.
And my phone is working just fine (probably better) as a direct result.
But what gets me about this stuff is how much of it is a boldfaced lie.
It seems that Google extols the virtues of these three packages which
mostly Jeff Layton and I have debunked, as the Google shills say they not only do your dishes, but they wash your socks & scratch your back for you.
*Google Partner Setup*
C:\> adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.google.android.partnetsetup
<https://yoodley.com/google-partner-setup/>
*Android System Intelligence*
C:\> adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.google.android.as
<https://www.androidpolice.com/what-is-android-system-intelligence/>
*Android System WebView*
C:\> adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.google.android.webview
<https://appuals.com/android-system-webview/>
Turns out the phone works just fine without these (and scores more)...
Most people simply use their devices. They don't even know 90% of what
is on there and couldn't care less. As long as the device works for what
they need (which is basically a gloried pager to receive text messages), they're happy.
It's only the nerds who even think about continually mucking about with
their devices.
candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote
Probably scared of messing with anything pre-installed, in case it
breaks something. Most don't really see the point of it.
It's just a phone.
What's the worst thing than can happen?
The biggest difference is you can easily ditch it - and - as I'm learning, you can replace it with a different WebView - which is what I'm working on.
With the Apple WebKit - you're stuck with it. And it's the reason for most
of the Apple exploited zero-day bugs too. Sigh. It's the reason there is no privacy or security on iOS and the iKooks don't even know why that's true.
It's just a phone.
What's the worst thing than can happen?
Most phones are pretty expensive, people only have one, and it could
take a while to fix if they don't know what they're doing.
candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote
It's just a phone.
What's the worst thing than can happen?
Most phones are pretty expensive, people only have one, and it could
take a while to fix if they don't know what they're doing.
As I said, phones are almost free nowadays, and, even if they weren't,
what's the worst thing that you will do to it if you make a mistake?
Factory reset.
Big deal.
Especially with Google/Apple both making it trivial to backup & restore.
The biggest difference is you can easily ditch it - and - as I'm learning, >> you can replace it with a different WebView - which is what I'm working on. >>
With the Apple WebKit - you're stuck with it. And it's the reason for most >> of the Apple exploited zero-day bugs too. Sigh. It's the reason there is no >> privacy or security on iOS and the iKooks don't even know why that's true.
Modularity FTW
candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote
The biggest difference is you can easily ditch it - and - as I'm learning, >>> you can replace it with a different WebView - which is what I'm working on. >>>Modularity FTW
With the Apple WebKit - you're stuck with it. And it's the reason for most >>> of the Apple exploited zero-day bugs too. Sigh. It's the reason there is no >>> privacy or security on iOS and the iKooks don't even know why that's true. >>
What is hugely different between Apple & every other operating system, is that the walled garden prevents the users from being able to do things.
Like wiping out the default system WebView, as just one proximal example.
To that end, I figured out why removing Android System WebView had almost
no impact for me, where one of the main reasons is I choose good apps.
I can't stress enough everyone wants to deceive you, and most people are stupid so they're deceived - but if you're intelligent - your apps are too.
The only apps that acted up over the weekend was DuckDuckGo browser and Bromite browser (surprisingly) where DDG was my default browser for links.
On 2023-10-08 22:14, Wally J wrote:
The only apps that acted up over the weekend was DuckDuckGo browser and
Bromite browser (surprisingly) where DDG was my default browser for
links.
So you lied when you said it had "no impact".
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