Because Android people are smarter than iPhone people and I don't read
the iPhone group...
Daughter's newest iPhone is frequently wrong when it gives her location
to google maps. In theory she's been in Moab for 18 hours now, and I
know she's on a tour bus elsewhere and she just emailed me a photo.
Stuff like this is frequent.
Is this a generic iPhone thing or is there something wrong with her >particular phone?
Because Android people are smarter than iPhone people and I don't read
the iPhone group...
Daughter's newest iPhone is frequently wrong when it gives her location
to google maps. In theory she's been in Moab for 18 hours now, and I
know she's on a tour bus elsewhere and she just emailed me a photo.
Stuff like this is frequent.
Is this a generic iPhone thing or is there something wrong with her particular phone?
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Because Android people are smarter than iPhone people and I don't read
the iPhone group...
Wrong audience. Just because you prefer this newsgroup does not obviate
your post here is off-topic.
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Because Android people are smarter than iPhone people and I don't read
the iPhone group...
Daughter's newest iPhone is frequently wrong when it gives her location
to google maps. In theory she's been in Moab for 18 hours now, and I
know she's on a tour bus elsewhere and she just emailed me a photo.
Stuff like this is frequent.
Is this a generic iPhone thing or is there something wrong with her
particular phone?
Wrong audience. Just because you prefer this newsgroup does not obviate
your post here is off-topic.
I don't have any Apple products, so no iPhones, either. In Android, I
use MobiaWIA's GPS Status & Toolbox (paid $2.14 for the Pro version) app which lets me clear the GPS tables (Manage A-GPS state) to reset and get
new data. The options under there are:
- Press "Reset" to clear all cached GPS data (cold start).
- Press "Download" to get GPS assistance data from the Internet. This
will speed up your GPS for a few days, but requires an active data
connection (only for the download).
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=gps%20status&c=apps
Since I don't do Apple, you will have to find out if there is a similar iPhone app to reset and redownload A-GPS data. For more info on A-GPS,
see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GNSS
https://mobiwia.com/ (their blog explains A-GPS settings in the app)
As their blog mentions, get rid of the pretty phone cases that can block radio signals. Those pretty mylar ones attenuate all radio signals
(GPS, cellular, FM, etc). Also, GPS doesn't penetrate concrete
buildings, like car park ramps. Even in metal cars with metallic
coatings in the windshielf, signals get attenuated. The GPS Status app
will even tell you to how many GPS satellites (shown in yellow) your
phone is connected. You need 3 satellites for geolocation via GPS, or
4 for more accurate positioning.
https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/tutorial_geodesy/geo09_gps.html
Currently I only have 3 GPS satellites connected, but I'm in the
basement of my house, so GPS may not penetrate as well. Don't where
your girl is taking her photos, or where she is trying to use Google
Maps; i.e., details may be missing in whichever country she is touring.
https://developers.google.com/maps/coverage
Does you girl have High Accuracy enabled in the Android settings for location? Besides GPS, location will include networks, like for cell
towers.
https://support.google.com/maps/answer/2839911?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid
Again, you'll have to find an Apple-equivalent article on location
settings in Apple devices. Even then, different phones are differently customized, so the navpath to get the high accuracy location setting may differ for whatever phone your girl has.
On 9/20/23 12:34, VanguardLH wrote:
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:To be fair, some of the apple newsgroups are battlegrounds.
Because Android people are smarter than iPhone people and I don't read
the iPhone group...
Wrong audience. Just because you prefer this newsgroup does not obviate
your post here is off-topic.
On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 09:50:02 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Because Android people are smarter than iPhone people and I don't read
the iPhone group...
Daughter's newest iPhone is frequently wrong when it gives her location
to google maps. In theory she's been in Moab for 18 hours now, and I
know she's on a tour bus elsewhere and she just emailed me a photo.
Stuff like this is frequent.
Is this a generic iPhone thing or is there something wrong with her >>particular phone?
Get her to check the setting under:
Settings | Privacy & Security | Location Services | Google Maps
Make sure "Always" is checked. If it's set to "While Using the App"
her location will only be updated when she opens the Google Maps app.
On 20 Sep 2023 17:59:33 +0100 Chris in Makati wrote:
On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 09:50:02 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Because Android people are smarter than iPhone people and I don't read
the iPhone group...
Daughter's newest iPhone is frequently wrong when it gives her location
to google maps. In theory she's been in Moab for 18 hours now, and I
know she's on a tour bus elsewhere and she just emailed me a photo.
Stuff like this is frequent.
Is this a generic iPhone thing or is there something wrong with her
particular phone?
Get her to check the setting under:
Settings | Privacy & Security | Location Services | Google Maps
Make sure "Always" is checked. If it's set to "While Using the App"
her location will only be updated when she opens the Google Maps app.
I run OsmAnd (offline maps) on an iPhone 8 and only need to set that permission to 'Always' if I'm recording a track, in which case it runs in
the background in my pocket. Normally it's set to "While using ..." -
which uses less power. I've never set G-Maps to "Always" and it generally knows where I am.
Turning wifi on - even if you're not using it for internet - will improve location accuracy and time-to-fix. That consumes power too, though, so I often turn it off in rural area.
Am 20.09.23 um 18:50 schrieb The Real Bev:
Because Android people are smarter than iPhone people and I don't read
the iPhone group...
Daughter's newest iPhone is frequently wrong when it gives her location
to google maps. In theory she's been in Moab for 18 hours now, and I
know she's on a tour bus elsewhere and she just emailed me a photo.
Stuff like this is frequent.
Is this a generic iPhone thing or is there something wrong with her
particular phone?
Probably not.
Iphones are extremly accurate and very fast in getting the correct
location. An iPhone does not need third party "apps" for this.
Your daughter should also make sure that the location service is
activated in the first place and the location is set to "Precise Location".
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207092
Am 20.09.23 um 19:34 schrieb VanguardLH:
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Because Android people are smarter than iPhone people and I don't read
the iPhone group...
Daughter's newest iPhone is frequently wrong when it gives her location
to google maps. In theory she's been in Moab for 18 hours now, and I
know she's on a tour bus elsewhere and she just emailed me a photo.
Stuff like this is frequent.
Is this a generic iPhone thing or is there something wrong with her
particular phone?
Wrong audience. Just because you prefer this newsgroup does not obviate
your post here is off-topic.
Again a mile long sermon and no help.
Iphones are extremly accurate and very fast in getting the correct
location. An iPhone does not need third party "apps" for this.
RealBev's daughter should also make sure that the location service is activated in the first place and the location is set to "Precise Location".
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207092
I don't have any Apple products, so no iPhones, either. In Android, I
use MobiaWIA's GPS Status & Toolbox (paid $2.14 for the Pro version) app
which lets me clear the GPS tables (Manage A-GPS state) to reset and get
new data. The options under there are:
- Press "Reset" to clear all cached GPS data (cold start).
- Press "Download" to get GPS assistance data from the Internet. This
will speed up your GPS for a few days, but requires an active data
connection (only for the download).
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=gps%20status&c=apps
Since I don't do Apple, you will have to find out if there is a similar
iPhone app to reset and redownload A-GPS data. For more info on A-GPS,
see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GNSS
https://mobiwia.com/ (their blog explains A-GPS settings in the app)
As their blog mentions, get rid of the pretty phone cases that can block
radio signals. Those pretty mylar ones attenuate all radio signals
(GPS, cellular, FM, etc). Also, GPS doesn't penetrate concrete
buildings, like car park ramps. Even in metal cars with metallic
coatings in the windshielf, signals get attenuated. The GPS Status app
will even tell you to how many GPS satellites (shown in yellow) your
phone is connected. You need 3 satellites for geolocation via GPS, or
4 for more accurate positioning.
https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/tutorial_geodesy/geo09_gps.html
Currently I only have 3 GPS satellites connected, but I'm in the
basement of my house, so GPS may not penetrate as well. Don't where
your girl is taking her photos, or where she is trying to use Google
Maps; i.e., details may be missing in whichever country she is touring.
https://developers.google.com/maps/coverage
Does you girl have High Accuracy enabled in the Android settings for
location? Besides GPS, location will include networks, like for cell
towers.
https://support.google.com/maps/answer/2839911?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid
Again, you'll have to find an Apple-equivalent article on location
settings in Apple devices. Even then, different phones are differently
customized, so the navpath to get the high accuracy location setting may
differ for whatever phone your girl has.
Because Android people are smarter than iPhone people and I don't read
the iPhone group...
Daughter's newest iPhone is frequently wrong when it gives her location
to google maps. In theory she's been in Moab for 18 hours now, and I
know she's on a tour bus elsewhere and she just emailed me a photo.
Stuff like this is frequent.
Is this a generic iPhone thing or is there something wrong with her particular phone?
On 9/20/23 12:34, VanguardLH wrote:
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Because Android people are smarter than iPhone people and I don't read
the iPhone group...
Wrong audience. Just because you prefer this newsgroup does not obviate
your post here is off-topic.
To be fair, some of the apple newsgroups are battlegrounds.
I think the Always/Only When Using dichotomy is the problem. TheCurrently I only have 3 GPS satellites connected, but I'm in the
basement of my house, so GPS may not penetrate as well. Don't where
your girl is taking her photos, or where she is trying to use Google
Maps; i.e., details may be missing in whichever country she is touring.
https://developers.google.com/maps/coverage
Does you girl have High Accuracy enabled in the Android settings for
location? Besides GPS, location will include networks, like for cell
towers.
https://support.google.com/maps/answer/2839911?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid
Again, you'll have to find an Apple-equivalent article on location
settings in Apple devices. Even then, different phones are differently
customized, so the navpath to get the high accuracy location setting may >>> differ for whatever phone your girl has.
Yep, here he is again pretending to give advice that was given 3 hours earlier.
Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
Am 20.09.23 um 19:34 schrieb VanguardLH:
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Because Android people are smarter than iPhone people and I don't read >>>> the iPhone group...
Daughter's newest iPhone is frequently wrong when it gives her location >>>> to google maps. In theory she's been in Moab for 18 hours now, and I
know she's on a tour bus elsewhere and she just emailed me a photo.
Stuff like this is frequent.
Is this a generic iPhone thing or is there something wrong with her
particular phone?
Wrong audience. Just because you prefer this newsgroup does not obviate >>> your post here is off-topic.
Again a mile long sermon and no help.
And, as always, you like to pretend the rest of my post doesn't exist.
Your trolling is getting way too obvious.
Iphones are extremly accurate and very fast in getting the correct
location. An iPhone does not need third party "apps" for this.
Okay, explain how the iPhone gets and maintains its A-GPS data. *ALL* smartphones with GPS use it.
RealBev's daughter should also make sure that the location service is
activated in the first place and the location is set to "Precise Location".
So, you repeat the same advice as I. So, your post must be of no help,
too.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207092
I don't have any Apple products, so no iPhones, either. In Android, I
use MobiaWIA's GPS Status & Toolbox (paid $2.14 for the Pro version) app >>> which lets me clear the GPS tables (Manage A-GPS state) to reset and get >>> new data. The options under there are:
- Press "Reset" to clear all cached GPS data (cold start).
- Press "Download" to get GPS assistance data from the Internet. This
will speed up your GPS for a few days, but requires an active data
connection (only for the download).
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=gps%20status&c=apps
Since I don't do Apple, you will have to find out if there is a similar
iPhone app to reset and redownload A-GPS data. For more info on A-GPS,
see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GNSS
https://mobiwia.com/ (their blog explains A-GPS settings in the app)
As their blog mentions, get rid of the pretty phone cases that can block >>> radio signals. Those pretty mylar ones attenuate all radio signals
(GPS, cellular, FM, etc). Also, GPS doesn't penetrate concrete
buildings, like car park ramps. Even in metal cars with metallic
coatings in the windshielf, signals get attenuated. The GPS Status app
will even tell you to how many GPS satellites (shown in yellow) your
phone is connected. You need 3 satellites for geolocation via GPS, or
4 for more accurate positioning.
https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/tutorial_geodesy/geo09_gps.html
Currently I only have 3 GPS satellites connected, but I'm in the
basement of my house, so GPS may not penetrate as well. Don't where
your girl is taking her photos, or where she is trying to use Google
Maps; i.e., details may be missing in whichever country she is touring.
https://developers.google.com/maps/coverage
Does you girl have High Accuracy enabled in the Android settings for
location? Besides GPS, location will include networks, like for cell
towers.
https://support.google.com/maps/answer/2839911?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid
Again, you'll have to find an Apple-equivalent article on location
settings in Apple devices. Even then, different phones are differently
customized, so the navpath to get the high accuracy location setting may >>> differ for whatever phone your girl has.
VanguardLH:
Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
Again a mile long sermon and no help.
And, as always, you like to pretend the rest of my post doesn't
exist. Your trolling is getting way too obvious.
RealBev's daughter should also make sure that the location service
is activated in the first place and the location is set to "Precise
Location".
So, you repeat the same advice as I. So, your post must be of no
help, too.
Chatterbox!
I think the Always/Only When Using dichotomy is the problem. The
difference might be hundreds or even thousands of miles since she last
used Maps and she generally doesn't need to know where she is -- that's
the bus driver's job unless he's lost, which has happened. If she can
send me a photo surely she should also have location services at that
exact time and place, and google maps would update.
Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
VanguardLH:
Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
Again a mile long sermon and no help.
And, as always, you like to pretend the rest of my post doesn't
exist. Your trolling is getting way too obvious.
RealBev's daughter should also make sure that the location service
is activated in the first place and the location is set to "Precise
Location".
So, you repeat the same advice as I. So, your post must be of no
help, too.
Chatterbox!
That's the best retort you can contrive after getting caught duplicating
my suggestion? I actually expect more from you in a retort.
Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
Am 20.09.23 um 18:50 schrieb The Real Bev:
Because Android people are smarter than iPhone people and I don't read
the iPhone group...
Daughter's newest iPhone is frequently wrong when it gives her location
to google maps. In theory she's been in Moab for 18 hours now, and I
know she's on a tour bus elsewhere and she just emailed me a photo.
Stuff like this is frequent.
Is this a generic iPhone thing or is there something wrong with her
particular phone?
Probably not.
Iphones are extremly accurate and very fast in getting the correct
location. An iPhone does not need third party "apps" for this.
Your daughter should also make sure that the location service is
activated in the first place and the location is set to "Precise Location". >>
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207092
Yep, here he is again pretending to give advice that was given 3 hours earlier.
Am 21.09.23 um 05:56 schrieb The Real Bev:
I think the Always/Only When Using dichotomy is the problem. The
difference might be hundreds or even thousands of miles since she last
used Maps and she generally doesn't need to know where she is -- that's
the bus driver's job unless he's lost, which has happened. If she can
send me a photo surely she should also have location services at that
exact time and place, and google maps would update.
No it isn't. If the location service is activated the phone is tracking
the exact point on this planet permanently. "only When Using" means only
that Google Maps has only access to location data when open. Not more
and not less.
Am 20.09.23 um 19:34 schrieb VanguardLH:
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Because Android people are smarter than iPhone people and I don't read
the iPhone group...
Daughter's newest iPhone is frequently wrong when it gives her location
to google maps. In theory she's been in Moab for 18 hours now, and I
know she's on a tour bus elsewhere and she just emailed me a photo.
Stuff like this is frequent.
Is this a generic iPhone thing or is there something wrong with her
particular phone?
Wrong audience. Just because you prefer this newsgroup does not obviate
your post here is off-topic.
Again a mile long sermon and no help.
Iphones are extremly accurate and very fast in getting the correct
location. An iPhone does not need third party "apps" for this.
RealBev's daughter should also make sure that the location service is >activated in the first place and the location is set to "Precise Location".
On 9/20/23 4:01 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Yep, here he is again pretending to give advice that was given 3 hours
earlier.
You think that's bad, try signing up with Nextdoor for a while.
Apparently some people regard it as a write-only medium. The site
itself is incompetent, frequently not publishing posts for days.
 Whatever problems usenet has, it's so far ahead of everything else
that there's no point in even thinking about what's #2.
On 9/20/2023 10:59 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
On 9/20/23 4:01 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Yep, here he is again pretending to give advice that was given 3 hours
earlier.
You think that's bad, try signing up with Nextdoor for a while.
Apparently some people regard it as a write-only medium. The site
itself is incompetent, frequently not publishing posts for days.
  Whatever problems usenet has, it's so far ahead of everything else
that there's no point in even thinking about what's #2.
Facebook was supposed to be launching a feature that was kind of like Nextdoor, called "Neighborhoods."
Nextdoor is a clusterf$%k, hopelessly awful design. Since they don't get
much advertising they endlessly repeat the same ads. They kick people
off if they disagree with their posts.
On 9/21/2023 9:53 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
On 9/21/23 09:44, sms wrote:
On 9/20/2023 10:59 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
On 9/20/23 4:01 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Yep, here he is again pretending to give advice that was given 3 hours >>>>> earlier.
You think that's bad, try signing up with Nextdoor for a while.
Apparently some people regard it as a write-only medium. The site
itself is incompetent, frequently not publishing posts for days.
  Whatever problems usenet has, it's so far ahead of everything else >>>> that there's no point in even thinking about what's #2.
Facebook was supposed to be launching a feature that was kind of like
Nextdoor, called "Neighborhoods."
Nextdoor is a clusterf$%k, hopelessly awful design. Since they don't
get much advertising they endlessly repeat the same ads. They kick
people off if they disagree with their posts.
That sounds like Facebook.
Facebook is not nearly as bad.
Nextdoor Redux
1. What is this bug?
2. Why is there a helicopter circling?
3. My cat ran away but came home.
4. My catalytic converter was stolen.
5. My neighbor put garbage into my bin. Is that legal?
6. How much should I pay for house cleaning?
7. Speeding ice cream truck in my neighborhood.
8. I just saw a coyote.
9. I saw a lot of police cars, what's going on?
10. My car got broken into.
11. My drain is clogged.
12. Suspicious person caught on my Ring camera.
13. My Amazon package was stolen.
14. I got a 1600 on my SATs, I got a 5 on 27 different AP tests, I won
six national science competitions, I’m home for the summer from ______
Ivy League university, and I’m available for tutoring.
15. My neighbor is wasting water.
16. Someone stole fruit from my tree.
17. Someone is parking in front of my house.
18. Someone cut me off in traffic.
19. Did anyone feel the earthquake?
20. How much should a house cleaner cost?
21. What was that big boom sound?
On 9/21/23 09:44, sms wrote:
On 9/20/2023 10:59 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
On 9/20/23 4:01 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Yep, here he is again pretending to give advice that was given 3 hours >>>> earlier.
You think that's bad, try signing up with Nextdoor for a while.
Apparently some people regard it as a write-only medium. The site
itself is incompetent, frequently not publishing posts for days.
  Whatever problems usenet has, it's so far ahead of everything else
that there's no point in even thinking about what's #2.
Facebook was supposed to be launching a feature that was kind of like
Nextdoor, called "Neighborhoods."
Nextdoor is a clusterf$%k, hopelessly awful design. Since they don't
get much advertising they endlessly repeat the same ads. They kick
people off if they disagree with their posts.
That sounds like Facebook.
Because Android people are smarter than iPhone people and I don't read
the iPhone group...
Daughter's newest iPhone is frequently wrong when it gives her location
to google maps. In theory she's been in Moab for 18 hours now, and I
know she's on a tour bus elsewhere and she just emailed me a photo.
Stuff like this is frequent.
Is this a generic iPhone thing or is there something wrong with her particular phone?
Because Android people are smarter than iPhone people and I don't read
the iPhone group...
Daughter's newest iPhone is frequently wrong when it gives her location
to google maps. In theory she's been in Moab for 18 hours now, and I
know she's on a tour bus elsewhere and she just emailed me a photo.
Stuff like this is frequent.
Is this a generic iPhone thing or is there something wrong with her particular phone?
I don't have any Apple products, so no iPhones, either. In Android, I
use MobiaWIA's GPS Status & Toolbox (paid $2.14 for the Pro version) app which lets me clear the GPS tables (Manage A-GPS state) to reset and get
new data. The options under there are:
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote
I don't have any Apple products, so no iPhones, either. In Android, I
use MobiaWIA's GPS Status & Toolbox (paid $2.14 for the Pro version) app
which lets me clear the GPS tables (Manage A-GPS state) to reset and get
new data. The options under there are:
For the advantage of the Android owners on this newsgroup, I suggest.
*SatStat* FOSS (free, ad free, gsf free)
<https://gitlab.com/mvglasow/satstat>
<https://f-droid.org/packages/com.vonglasow.michael.satstat/>
Vanguard and I have had this discussion in gory detail where the summary is
I strongly suspect the app he recommends simply copied the FOSS code based
on the similarities of the two apps is astoundingly close page by page.
In other words, my suggestion is you reward the original developer.
Not the copycat.
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Because Android people are smarter than iPhone people and I don't read
the iPhone group...
Daughter's newest iPhone is frequently wrong when it gives her location
to google maps. In theory she's been in Moab for 18 hours now, and I
know she's on a tour bus elsewhere and she just emailed me a photo.
Stuff like this is frequent.
What do you mean by 'gives her location to google maps'? You mean when the app is open it puts the pin in the wrong place? Or some kind of feature where it records her location and sends it to you?
If the latter, if the app doesn't have location access set to 'always',
it'll only get the correct location when the app is open on the screen. The app running in the background may still think it is whereever it was when
the app was last foregrounded.
Lack of 'precise location' would mean the location is approximate but I
don't know how coarse it is. I just did a test with Apple Maps and it gave about a 5 mile radius which did include my correct location.
Is this a generic iPhone thing or is there something wrong with her
particular phone?
I suppose it could be that GPS is broken and it's relying on wifi hotspots. But that seems unlikely.
Am 21.09.23 um 05:56 schrieb The Real Bev:
I think the Always/Only When Using dichotomy is the problem. The
difference might be hundreds or even thousands of miles since she last
used Maps and she generally doesn't need to know where she is -- that's
the bus driver's job unless he's lost, which has happened. If she can
send me a photo surely she should also have location services at that
exact time and place, and google maps would update.
No it isn't. If the location service is activated the phone is tracking
the exact point on this planet permanently. "only When Using" means only
that Google Maps has only access to location data when open. Not more
and not less.
The only discussion where I remember discussing Network Cellular Info
(NCI), not GPS Status mentioned here,
I proved that NCI did *not* copy CZ's code as it was impossible
considering NCI came out 2 years before any dev started on CZ.
Now you're trying to perpetrate the unfounded claim that NCI stole code
from SatStat.
How many other
apps that show satellite info are you going to claim stole code? Seems
every app that isn't your choice must be the one everyone else is
stealing code from.
But the point you're missing is that Bev is using Google Maps to track
her daughter's location remotely, presumably using the "Location
Sharing" function in Google. If the Location Services setting for the
Google Maps app is set to "When Using", Google Maps will only update
the location to Google when the app is being used. If it's set to
"Always" the app will update the location to Google continuously even
if the app itself is closed. That's why it needs to be set to
"Always".
RealBev's daughter should also make sure that the location service is >>activated in the first place and the location is set to "Precise Location".
Correct. She needs to check that setting as well.
On 9/20/2023 10:59 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
On 9/20/23 4:01 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Yep, here he is again pretending to give advice that was given 3 hours
earlier.
You think that's bad, try signing up with Nextdoor for a while.
Apparently some people regard it as a write-only medium. The site
itself is incompetent, frequently not publishing posts for days.
 Whatever problems usenet has, it's so far ahead of everything else
that there's no point in even thinking about what's #2.
Facebook was supposed to be launching a feature that was kind of like Nextdoor, called "Neighborhoods."
Nextdoor is a clusterf$%k, hopelessly awful design. Since they don't get
much advertising they endlessly repeat the same ads. They kick people
off if they disagree with their posts.
On 9/21/2023 9:53 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
On 9/21/23 09:44, sms wrote:
On 9/20/2023 10:59 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
On 9/20/23 4:01 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Yep, here he is again pretending to give advice that was given 3 hours >>>>> earlier.
You think that's bad, try signing up with Nextdoor for a while.
Apparently some people regard it as a write-only medium. The site
itself is incompetent, frequently not publishing posts for days.
  Whatever problems usenet has, it's so far ahead of everything else >>>> that there's no point in even thinking about what's #2.
Facebook was supposed to be launching a feature that was kind of like
Nextdoor, called "Neighborhoods."
Nextdoor is a clusterf$%k, hopelessly awful design. Since they don't
get much advertising they endlessly repeat the same ads. They kick
people off if they disagree with their posts.
That sounds like Facebook.
Facebook is not nearly as bad.
Nextdoor Redux
1. What is this bug?
2. Why is there a helicopter circling?
3. My cat ran away but came home.
4. My catalytic converter was stolen.
5. My neighbor put garbage into my bin. Is that legal?
6. How much should I pay for house cleaning?
7. Speeding ice cream truck in my neighborhood.
8. I just saw a coyote.
9. I saw a lot of police cars, what's going on?
10. My car got broken into.
11. My drain is clogged.
12. Suspicious person caught on my Ring camera.
13. My Amazon package was stolen.
14. I got a 1600 on my SATs, I got a 5 on 27 different AP tests, I won
six national science competitions, I’m home for the summer from ______
Ivy League university, and I’m available for tutoring.
15. My neighbor is wasting water.
16. Someone stole fruit from my tree.
17. Someone is parking in front of my house.
18. Someone cut me off in traffic.
19. Did anyone feel the earthquake?
20. How much should a house cleaner cost?
21. What was that big boom sound?
On 9/21/23 1:50 PM, Theo wrote:
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Because Android people are smarter than iPhone people and I don't read
the iPhone group...
Daughter's newest iPhone is frequently wrong when it gives her location
to google maps. In theory she's been in Moab for 18 hours now, and I
know she's on a tour bus elsewhere and she just emailed me a photo.
Stuff like this is frequent.
What do you mean by 'gives her location to google maps'? You mean when the >> app is open it puts the pin in the wrong place? Or some kind of feature
where it records her location and sends it to you?
Her icon on google maps is in a place she was and is labeled something
like "23 Hours ago". Presumably that was the last time she used google
maps AND had wifi/data access.
If the latter, if the app doesn't have location access set to 'always',
it'll only get the correct location when the app is open on the screen. The >> app running in the background may still think it is whereever it was when
the app was last foregrounded.
Lack of 'precise location' would mean the location is approximate but I
don't know how coarse it is. I just did a test with Apple Maps and it gave >> about a 5 mile radius which did include my correct location.
Is this a generic iPhone thing or is there something wrong with her
particular phone?
I suppose it could be that GPS is broken and it's relying on wifi hotspots. >> But that seems unlikely.
Nope, just the setting.
I would have thought an iphone should be able to find its location with
just gps,
On 9/21/23 2:54 AM, Chris in Makati wrote:
But the point you're missing is that Bev is using Google Maps to track
her daughter's location remotely, presumably using the "Location
Sharing" function in Google. If the Location Services setting for the
Google Maps app is set to "When Using", Google Maps will only update
the location to Google when the app is being used. If it's set to
"Always" the app will update the location to Google continuously even
if the app itself is closed. That's why it needs to be set to
"Always".
RealBev's daughter should also make sure that the location service isCorrect. She needs to check that setting as well.
activated in the first place and the location is set to "Precise Location". >>
Done and done.
As I mentioned in a post a few moments ago, google maps updates from
wifi, but not from cellular. Is this the general rule or something
specific to the cheap Keepgo SIM?
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote
I don't have any Apple products, so no iPhones, either. In Android, I
use MobiaWIA's GPS Status & Toolbox (paid $2.14 for the Pro version) app
which lets me clear the GPS tables (Manage A-GPS state) to reset and get
new data. The options under there are:
For the advantage of the Android owners on this newsgroup, I suggest.
*SatStat* FOSS (free, ad free, gsf free)
<https://gitlab.com/mvglasow/satstat>
<https://f-droid.org/packages/com.vonglasow.michael.satstat/>
Vanguard and I have had this discussion in gory detail where the summary is
I strongly suspect the app he recommends simply copied the FOSS code based
on the similarities of the two apps is astoundingly close page by page.
In other words, my suggestion is you reward the original developer.
Not the copycat
On 21 Sep 2023 20:43:14 -0700 The Real Bev wrote:
On 9/21/23 1:50 PM, Theo wrote:
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Because Android people are smarter than iPhone people and I don't read >>>> the iPhone group...
Daughter's newest iPhone is frequently wrong when it gives her location >>>> to google maps. In theory she's been in Moab for 18 hours now, and I
know she's on a tour bus elsewhere and she just emailed me a photo.
Stuff like this is frequent.
What do you mean by 'gives her location to google maps'? You mean when the >>> app is open it puts the pin in the wrong place? Or some kind of feature >>> where it records her location and sends it to you?
Her icon on google maps is in a place she was and is labeled something
like "23 Hours ago". Presumably that was the last time she used google >>maps AND had wifi/data access.
I would have thought an iphone should be able to find its location with
just gps, but might take many minutes to do it. That delay is called the 'time to fix' and depends on the number of satellites it can see (so not inside a bus - hold it against a window on the equator-facing side) and,
and also how long it is and how far it is from the last fix. My last phone (which was a cheap Indian Sailfish one) could take 20 minutes - which is actually why I started using an iPhone (4s) which had a much better gps
and could do it in 5 minutes. (If iphones can no longer do that I'll stop using them. I only use old ones I've given.)
As to the original question, I've lost the plot. Is Chris right - you're tracking your daughter using google maps' location sharing? What's the relevance of the photo?
If the latter, if the app doesn't have location access set to 'always',
it'll only get the correct location when the app is open on the screen. The
app running in the background may still think it is whereever it was when >>> the app was last foregrounded.
Lack of 'precise location' would mean the location is approximate but I
don't know how coarse it is. I just did a test with Apple Maps and it gave >>> about a 5 mile radius which did include my correct location.
Is this a generic iPhone thing or is there something wrong with her
particular phone?
I suppose it could be that GPS is broken and it's relying on wifi hotspots. >>> But that seems unlikely.
Nope, just the setting.
As I mentioned in a post a few moments ago, google maps updates from
wifi, but not from cellular. Is this the general rule or something
specific to the cheap Keepgo SIM? I find it surprising that wifi would
be available in places where cell service is nonexistent. Capitol Reef
UT area, for instance.
I've been banned three times so far. It's not so much disagreement, but butthurtness that causes people to complain about other posters. The interface is SOOOO much worse than Facebook's, and I wouldn't have
thought that was possible. I could forgive almost anything if their threading actually worked and if the 'notifications' made the noted post obvious when you click the notification.
The worst part is realizing how dumb people are. Apparently you don't
have to figure out ANYTHING to join, which says a lot.
Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote
I don't have any Apple products, so no iPhones, either. In Android, I
use MobiaWIA's GPS Status & Toolbox (paid $2.14 for the Pro version) app >>> which lets me clear the GPS tables (Manage A-GPS state) to reset and get >>> new data. The options under there are:
For the advantage of the Android owners on this newsgroup, I suggest.
*SatStat* FOSS (free, ad free, gsf free)
<https://gitlab.com/mvglasow/satstat>
<https://f-droid.org/packages/com.vonglasow.michael.satstat/>
Vanguard and I have had this discussion in gory detail where the summary is >> I strongly suspect the app he recommends simply copied the FOSS code based >> on the similarities of the two apps is astoundingly close page by page.
In other words, my suggestion is you reward the original developer.
Not the copycat
You clearly don't understand how FOSS works. It encourages sharing of code, by design. It's clearly described in all FOSS licenses.
Like to see Wally's validation that NCI was built from SatStat.
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote
Like to see Wally's validation that NCI was built from SatStat.
Hi Vanguard,
I like you. I completely understand you. You have a caring soul.
I realize you, of all people, are somewhat one in a million, like I am,
where you actually _care_ that people get good answers to questions.
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