I enjoy helping people who are worth helping (i.e., not spammers).
So I took a look at your problem, but I was just keying off the title (as
the body of your message confused me)... where I ran a search for "battery monitor" in the best free adfree gsfree Android App Finder there ever was.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=scadica.aq>
Wouldn't you know it, when I saved the App Finder results directly to an Excel spreadsheet, there were 3,923 results - which is too much to compare.
Since App Finder has fantastic filters available nowhere else in the world,
I was able to hone down the apps based on filtering criteria to this if you're willing to put up with ads (as it has the greatest satisfaction).
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm>
You can run that search of the Google Play Store from your PC now, BTW.
<https://skyica.com/>
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm>
Thanks, I'll give it a shot. I was hoping for a personal recommendation.
I hope you find what you are looking for.
The native Android11 one is laughable. I updated 110 of my 230 apps yesterday -- which took all day. The battery usage monitor claims that Google Play Store used 2% of the battery during 29 minutes of usage. Aside from that I took two photos . The battery indicator showed something like 45%.
What's wrong with this picture?
I assume that the internals are doing stuff that uses the battery and that
I can't do anything about it, I just want to KNOW WTF that is.
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm>
Thanks, I'll give it a shot. I was hoping for a personal recommendation.
Understood. Yes, that recommendation was based on search results.
As for me, I don't personally bother with battery monitors as my batter in
my free Samsung (which is two years old now) could start my car, it's so
big. I don't even charge it at night anymore. Just when it needs it.
Someone else will help you, I'm sure. Good luck.
I hope you find what you are looking for.
In message <uddpak$35s4h$1@dont-email.me>
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
The native Android11 one is laughable. I updated 110 of my 230 apps
yesterday -- which took all day. The battery usage monitor claims that
Google Play Store used 2% of the battery during 29 minutes of usage. Aside >> from that I took two photos . The battery indicator showed something like >> 45%.
What's wrong with this picture?
I assume that the internals are doing stuff that uses the battery and that >> I can't do anything about it, I just want to KNOW WTF that is.
Do I understand you to say that the Play Store only used 2%, but something else used 45%, or you were down to 45% from some (presumably high) figure before the update started?
The Play Store usage would cover the finding and transport of your
upgrades, but I would assume (rightly or wrongly!) that the installation
is not actually done /by/ the Play Store, therefore the battery usage
during installation would not be ascribed to it.
If anyone has accurate insight, I think we'd be grateful.
The native Android11 one is laughable. I updated 110 of my 230 apps yesterday -- which took all day. The battery usage monitor claims that Google Play Store used 2% of the battery during 29 minutes of usage.
Aside from that I took two photos . The battery indicator showed
something like 45%.
What's wrong with this picture?
I assume that the internals are doing stuff that uses the battery and
that I can't do anything about it, I just want to KNOW WTF that is.
The native Android11 one is laughable. I updated 110 of my 230 apps >yesterday -- which took all day. The battery usage monitor claims that >Google Play Store used 2% of the battery during 29 minutes of usage.Bev,
Aside from that I took two photos . The battery indicator showed
something like 45%.
What's wrong with this picture?
I assume that the internals are doing stuff that uses the battery and
that I can't do anything about it, I just want to KNOW WTF that is.
On Thu, 7 Sep 2023 17:19:30 -0700, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
wrote:
The native Android11 one is laughable. I updated 110 of my 230 apps >>yesterday -- which took all day. The battery usage monitor claims that >>Google Play Store used 2% of the battery during 29 minutes of usage.Bev,
Aside from that I took two photos . The battery indicator showed
something like 45%.
What's wrong with this picture?
I assume that the internals are doing stuff that uses the battery and
that I can't do anything about it, I just want to KNOW WTF that is.
I just installed the BatteryBot that Wally recommended to see if it
was better than AccuBattery which I have used for years. From what I
saw, it is not. AccuBattery gives much more detailed info than
BatteryBot. It is free, but does have ads which are getting more
annoying every year.
>>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<
Pixel2 battery is laughably small. I doubt that there's anything I can
do that will seriously improve battery usage, so it's really just curiosity.
I just installed the BatteryBot that Wally recommended to see if it
was better than AccuBattery which I have used for years. From what I
saw, it is not. AccuBattery gives much more detailed info than
BatteryBot. It is free, but does have ads which are getting more
annoying every year.
I forgot to add that BatteryBot gives individual app battery usage,
while AccuBattery does not. But it does give a whole lot of more
details.
Battery Dog for Android by Ferenc Hechler
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sf.andbatdog.batterydog>
BatteryBot Battery Indicator by Darshan Computing, LLC
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.darshancomputing.BatteryIndicator>
BetterBatteryStats by Sven Knispel
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats>
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
The native Android11 one is laughable. I updated 110 of my 230 apps
yesterday -- which took all day. The battery usage monitor claims that
Google Play Store used 2% of the battery during 29 minutes of usage.
Aside from that I took two photos . The battery indicator showed
something like 45%.
What's wrong with this picture?
I assume that the internals are doing stuff that uses the battery and
that I can't do anything about it, I just want to KNOW WTF that is.
First off, there's no such thing as "native Android [NN]". IIRC, you
have some kind of Google Pixel, so you're probably referring to that.
I don't know about yours, but my (Samsung Galaxy A51, Android 13)
'Battery usage' page also has 'Screen on time:' and 'Screen off time:' entries (in addition to the entries for the individual apps).
It does *not* say how much battery capacity is used by the screen
during the 'Screen on time', but for most 'simple' users, the battery
usage by the screen is probably more that the (reported) battery useage
from the apps.
For example for my phone, the battery went from 85 (upper limit) to
65%, so 20% down, but the sum of the reported percentages of the apps is
only 6.1%. So the other nearly 14% was used by the screen.
"Elementary, dear Watson!"
Bottom line: (Non-blank) Screens use power, silly things! :-)
Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote
Battery Dog for Android by Ferenc Hechler
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sf.andbatdog.batterydog> >>
BatteryBot Battery Indicator by Darshan Computing, LLC
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.darshancomputing.BatteryIndicator>
BetterBatteryStats by Sven Knispel
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats>
Drat. I just clicked on the links (to make sure they were still good) and
it seems that jetcock picked the only viable app out of the three.
The BBS Knispel apps seems to cost money now, and the BatteryDog is like a watchdog, but it's not all that user friendly (based on a quick peek).
So the only viable app for TheRealBev to test, seems to be the same one
that jetcock tested - based on that little bit of information I just
gleaned from reading the Google Play Store pages.
Giving AccuBattery a try. It wants some full charges before it offers
an opinion about battery health. So far, so good.
Since then it's used 3% of the battery while telling me nothing about
what's actually consuming the battery. Deleted.
I give up.
On 9/8/23 1:57 PM, Wally J wrote:
Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote
Battery Dog for Android by Ferenc Hechler
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sf.andbatdog.batterydog>
BatteryBot Battery Indicator by Darshan Computing, LLC
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.darshancomputing.BatteryIndicator>
BetterBatteryStats by Sven Knispel
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats>
Drat. I just clicked on the links (to make sure they were still good) and
it seems that jetcock picked the only viable app out of the three.
The BBS Knispel apps seems to cost money now, and the BatteryDog is like a >> watchdog, but it's not all that user friendly (based on a quick peek).
So the only viable app for TheRealBev to test, seems to be the same one
that jetcock tested - based on that little bit of information I just
gleaned from reading the Google Play Store pages.
Giving AccuBattery a try. It wants some full charges before it offers
an opinion about battery health. So far, so good.
On 9/8/23 10:50 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
The native Android11 one is laughable. I updated 110 of my 230 apps
yesterday -- which took all day. The battery usage monitor claims that
Google Play Store used 2% of the battery during 29 minutes of usage.
Aside from that I took two photos . The battery indicator showed
something like 45%.
What's wrong with this picture?
I assume that the internals are doing stuff that uses the battery and
that I can't do anything about it, I just want to KNOW WTF that is.
First off, there's no such thing as "native Android [NN]". IIRC, you have some kind of Google Pixel, so you're probably referring to that.
Yup. Pixel2. Small battery. Just wondering what IT is doing that I
wish it weren't. The percentages given do not add up to 100. Why so secretive? What is google afraid we'll find out?
I don't know about yours, but my (Samsung Galaxy A51, Android 13) 'Battery usage' page also has 'Screen on time:' and 'Screen off time:' entries (in addition to the entries for the individual apps).
It does *not* say how much battery capacity is used by the screen
during the 'Screen on time', but for most 'simple' users, the battery
usage by the screen is probably more that the (reported) battery useage from the apps.
For example for my phone, the battery went from 85 (upper limit) to
65%, so 20% down, but the sum of the reported percentages of the apps is only 6.1%. So the other nearly 14% was used by the screen.
"Elementary, dear Watson!"
Bottom line: (Non-blank) Screens use power, silly things! :-)
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
On 9/8/23 10:50 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
The native Android11 one is laughable. I updated 110 of my 230 apps
yesterday -- which took all day. The battery usage monitor claims that >> >> Google Play Store used 2% of the battery during 29 minutes of usage.
Aside from that I took two photos . The battery indicator showed
something like 45%.
What's wrong with this picture?
I assume that the internals are doing stuff that uses the battery and
that I can't do anything about it, I just want to KNOW WTF that is.
First off, there's no such thing as "native Android [NN]". IIRC, you
have some kind of Google Pixel, so you're probably referring to that.
Yup. Pixel2. Small battery. Just wondering what IT is doing that I
wish it weren't. The percentages given do not add up to 100. Why so
secretive? What is google afraid we'll find out?
Huh? Didn't you read/understand my (below quoted) comments about the *screen* using the majority/rest of the battery drain!?
Especially note the 'Bottom line:'.
I don't know about yours, but my (Samsung Galaxy A51, Android 13)
'Battery usage' page also has 'Screen on time:' and 'Screen off time:'
entries (in addition to the entries for the individual apps).
It does *not* say how much battery capacity is used by the screen
during the 'Screen on time', but for most 'simple' users, the battery
usage by the screen is probably more that the (reported) battery useage
from the apps.
For example for my phone, the battery went from 85 (upper limit) to
65%, so 20% down, but the sum of the reported percentages of the apps is >> > only 6.1%. So the other nearly 14% was used by the screen.
"Elementary, dear Watson!"
Bottom line: (Non-blank) Screens use power, silly things! :-)
On 9/10/23 7:19 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
On 9/8/23 10:50 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
The native Android11 one is laughable. I updated 110 of my 230 apps
yesterday -- which took all day. The battery usage monitor claims that >> >> Google Play Store used 2% of the battery during 29 minutes of usage.
Aside from that I took two photos . The battery indicator showed
something like 45%.
What's wrong with this picture?
I assume that the internals are doing stuff that uses the battery and >> >> that I can't do anything about it, I just want to KNOW WTF that is.
First off, there's no such thing as "native Android [NN]". IIRC, you >> > have some kind of Google Pixel, so you're probably referring to that.
Yup. Pixel2. Small battery. Just wondering what IT is doing that I
wish it weren't. The percentages given do not add up to 100. Why so
secretive? What is google afraid we'll find out?
Huh? Didn't you read/understand my (below quoted) comments about the *screen* using the majority/rest of the battery drain!?
The screen is listed and is, of course, the major use. I'm interested
in the UNLISTED usage. Current example:
Screen 17%
Phone idle 10%
Camera 7%
Wifi 3%
Android System 2%
Google play services 1%
Android OS 1%
TOTAL: 41%
BATTERY REMAINING: 37%
Total: 78%
This leaves 22% of the battery drain a mystery. Internal working?
Rounding error? Magic? That's the stuff I want to know about.
I have to assume that the 'native' battery monitor also uses 3% of the battery, so the apps just add another 3% without providing any
improvement. Is the 'native' battery thing included in 'Android
system' or 'Android OS'? Apparently not, since those are 2% and 1%.
Giving AccuBattery a try. It wants some full charges before it offers
an opinion about battery health. So far, so good.
Since then it's used 3% of the battery while telling me nothing about
what's actually consuming the battery. Deleted.
Wifi 3%
I see. As said, my phone doesn't show the percentage used by the
screen, hence my comments/questions.
Huh? Didn't you read/understand my (below quoted) comments about the
*screen* using the majority/rest of the battery drain!?
The screen is listed and is, of course, the major use.
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
On 9/10/23 7:19 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
On 9/8/23 10:50 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:Yup. Pixel2. Small battery. Just wondering what IT is doing that I
The native Android11 one is laughable. I updated 110 of my 230 apps >> >> >> yesterday -- which took all day. The battery usage monitor claims that
Google Play Store used 2% of the battery during 29 minutes of usage. >> >> >> Aside from that I took two photos . The battery indicator showed
something like 45%.
What's wrong with this picture?
I assume that the internals are doing stuff that uses the battery and >> >> >> that I can't do anything about it, I just want to KNOW WTF that is.
First off, there's no such thing as "native Android [NN]". IIRC, you >> >> > have some kind of Google Pixel, so you're probably referring to that. >> >>
wish it weren't. The percentages given do not add up to 100. Why so
secretive? What is google afraid we'll find out?
Huh? Didn't you read/understand my (below quoted) comments about the
*screen* using the majority/rest of the battery drain!?
The screen is listed and is, of course, the major use. I'm interested
in the UNLISTED usage. Current example:
Screen 17%
Phone idle 10%
Camera 7%
Wifi 3%
Android System 2%
Google play services 1%
Android OS 1%
TOTAL: 41%
BATTERY REMAINING: 37%
Total: 78%
This leaves 22% of the battery drain a mystery. Internal working?
Rounding error? Magic? That's the stuff I want to know about.
I see. As said, my phone doesn't show the percentage used by the
screen, hence my comments/questions.
But your phone doesn't seem to show the usage for all apps. Strictly speaking, it lists only one app, Camera.
In your original post you said "Google Play Store used 2%", but in
this post, it mentions "Google play services", not Google Play Store.
On my phone, it lists both Google Play Services and Google Play Store (even when not updating) and some four normal (non-system) apps, so it's strange that your list doesn't list any normal apps (except Camera).
I have to assume that the 'native' battery monitor also uses 3% of the
battery, so the apps just add another 3% without providing any
improvement. Is the 'native' battery thing included in 'Android
system' or 'Android OS'? Apparently not, since those are 2% and 1%.
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote
Giving AccuBattery a try. It wants some full charges before it offers
an opinion about battery health. So far, so good.
Since then it's used 3% of the battery while telling me nothing about
what's actually consuming the battery. Deleted.
What happened with *BatteryBot Battery Indicator* by Darshan? <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.darshancomputing.BatteryIndicator>
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote
Huh? Didn't you read/understand my (below quoted) comments about the
*screen* using the majority/rest of the battery drain!?
The screen is listed and is, of course, the major use.
As a somewhat related planning-ahead technical aside, some screens, apparently, use less power if the background is black versus white.
For my Galaxy A325G screen, I always use a black background, partly for
that reason, and partly because they can fingerprint your screen image.
It's finesse... I know... but all experts evolve into finesse over time.
Giving AccuBattery a try. It wants some full charges before it offers >>>> an opinion about battery health. So far, so good.
Since then it's used 3% of the battery while telling me nothing about
what's actually consuming the battery. Deleted.
What happened with *BatteryBot Battery Indicator* by Darshan?
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.darshancomputing.BatteryIndicator>
It didn't seem to do what I want done.
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