• Make notifications easier to figure out while the phone is in your pock

    From Patrick@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 3 08:11:26 2023
    I get all sorts of noises when "things happen" on my phone.
    Sometimes the phone is in my hands but often it's out of sight.

    All I get is a blip or a ding or a bong or a cling for a noise.
    Then I have to open the phone and search all over for why.

    Is there a way to get the notifications to speak out what they are?

    For example, maybe it would say "you've got mail" or "you've got text", or
    even better "you've got text from your mother" or something descriptive?

    For apps, it could say "Your maps app has sent you a notification", or something descriptive that points to something with that specific app.

    How many different kinds of notifications are there anyway?

    I know there's a history at Settings > Notifications > History but what I'm looking for is a real time verbal indication of the notification while the phone is still in your pocket or at your side on the desk or table.

    I know there's a Settings > Sounds and vibration > Notification sound
    but that happens for all notifications - which is relatively useless.

    Especially since there's no way to set it to a personal MP3 saying
    "You got a text from your mother" (or something verbal like that).

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  • From Robert Roland@21:1/5 to Patrick on Sun Sep 3 11:45:54 2023
    On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 08:11:26 +0800, Patrick <patrick@oleary.com> wrote:

    For example, maybe it would say "you've got mail" or "you've got text", or >even better "you've got text from your mother" or something descriptive?

    The problem with that, is that if there are people around you, they
    will also know what's happening.

    If you are in a noisy environment, you will not hear what's being
    said.

    I have one of those smart watches. It will display notifications on
    its screen. All you have to do, is to look at your arm.
    --
    RoRo

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  • From Bob Henson@21:1/5 to Patrick on Sun Sep 3 11:29:22 2023
    Patrick wrote:

    I get all sorts of noises when "things happen" on my phone.
    Sometimes the phone is in my hands but often it's out of sight.

    All I get is a blip or a ding or a bong or a cling for a noise.
    Then I have to open the phone and search all over for why.

    Is there a way to get the notifications to speak out what they are?

    For example, maybe it would say "you've got mail" or "you've got text", or even better "you've got text from your mother" or something descriptive?

    For apps, it could say "Your maps app has sent you a notification", or something descriptive that points to something with that specific app.

    How many different kinds of notifications are there anyway?

    I know there's a history at Settings > Notifications > History but what I'm looking for is a real time verbal indication of the notification while the phone is still in your pocket or at your side on the desk or table.

    I know there's a Settings > Sounds and vibration > Notification sound
    but that happens for all notifications - which is relatively useless.

    Especially since there's no way to set it to a personal MP3 saying
    "You got a text from your mother" (or something verbal like that).

    I have my phone set to say "You have email" when one arrives, and it can be done for any app that allows setting its own notification sound. I recorded
    my voice saying the message and set Gmail to use that as the notification.
    You can even have different ones for different Gmail accounts. If I'm
    anywhere where quiet is essential, I can divert all notifications to a
    quiet beep on the watch and see who it is on the watch.


    --
    Bob
    Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

    Insanity is hereditary - you get it off your kids!

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  • From Carlos E. R.@21:1/5 to Robert Roland on Sun Sep 3 09:29:15 2023
    On 2023-09-03 05:45, Robert Roland wrote:
    On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 08:11:26 +0800, Patrick <patrick@oleary.com> wrote:

    For example, maybe it would say "you've got mail" or "you've got text", or >> even better "you've got text from your mother" or something descriptive?

    The problem with that, is that if there are people around you, they
    will also know what's happening.

    If you are in a noisy environment, you will not hear what's being
    said.

    I have one of those smart watches. It will display notifications on
    its screen. All you have to do, is to look at your arm.

    But fast.

    If I'm slow, or wearing a jacket that I have to shift, I don't get to
    see the text.

    There is another problem: I may have the phone in "do not disturb mode",
    but the watch vibrates. It can wake me up sometimes. It is a cheap Mi
    Smart Band 6.

    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.

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  • From Frankie@21:1/5 to Bob Henson on Sun Sep 3 17:02:48 2023
    On 3/9/2023, Bob Henson wrote:

    Especially since there's no way to set it to a personal MP3 saying
    "You got a text from your mother" (or something verbal like that).

    I have my phone set to say "You have email" when one arrives, and it can be done for any app that allows setting its own notification sound. I recorded my voice saying the message and set Gmail to use that as the notification. You can even have different ones for different Gmail accounts. If I'm anywhere where quiet is essential, I can divert all notifications to a
    quiet beep on the watch and see who it is on the watch.

    The trick is, as you said, the app (and not the operating system settings),
    has to be able to call its own notification messages of "you have text."

    There is a great ad-free free "Tell Me" text-to-WAV app that creates them. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simplycomplexapps.ASTellme

    What I do is save those text-to-speech messages to a notifications folder.
    Then each app that can be set to a custom notification uses that WAV file.

    If the messages is really short, even if I don't catch the message itself,
    if it's a woman's voice I know it's text while if it's a man's voice I know it's email - but if you make the text-to-speech a bit longer, you catch it.

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  • From Bob Henson@21:1/5 to Frankie on Sun Sep 3 16:29:02 2023
    Frankie wrote:

    On 3/9/2023, Bob Henson wrote:

    Especially since there's no way to set it to a personal MP3 saying
    "You got a text from your mother" (or something verbal like that).

    I have my phone set to say "You have email" when one arrives, and it can be >> done for any app that allows setting its own notification sound. I recorded >> my voice saying the message and set Gmail to use that as the notification. >> You can even have different ones for different Gmail accounts. If I'm
    anywhere where quiet is essential, I can divert all notifications to a
    quiet beep on the watch and see who it is on the watch.

    The trick is, as you said, the app (and not the operating system settings), has to be able to call its own notification messages of "you have text."

    There is a great ad-free free "Tell Me" text-to-WAV app that creates them. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simplycomplexapps.ASTellme

    What I do is save those text-to-speech messages to a notifications folder. Then each app that can be set to a custom notification uses that WAV file.


    That's exactly how I do it - quite handy. Inbound phone calls I do with
    music usually - if the phone plays "ride of the Valkyries" I know it's
    SWMBO. :-)

    --
    Bob
    Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

    Santa Claus has the right idea. Visit people only once a year. - Victor
    Borge

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Patrick on Sun Sep 3 17:56:49 2023
    Patrick <patrick@oleary.com> wrote:
    I get all sorts of noises when "things happen" on my phone.
    Sometimes the phone is in my hands but often it's out of sight.

    All I get is a blip or a ding or a bong or a cling for a noise.
    Then I have to open the phone and search all over for why.

    Why do you "have to ... search all over for why"?

    Of course you have to 'open' it, assuming that means opening the cover
    - if any - or/and switch it 'on' (so the display lights up) and hence it obviously doesn't work "while the phone is in your pocket", but once
    switched 'on', all notifications should be on the Notification Panel,
    i.e. the panel you see by sliding down from the top of the screen and
    there is no need to search all over for why".

    If you get a (audible/vibrating) notification, but the notification is
    not listed on the Notification Panel, you need to change the
    notification settings for that app to *do* show the notification.

    [...]

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  • From The Real Bev@21:1/5 to Robert Roland on Sun Sep 3 10:37:33 2023
    On 9/3/23 2:45 AM, Robert Roland wrote:
    On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 08:11:26 +0800, Patrick <patrick@oleary.com> wrote:

    For example, maybe it would say "you've got mail" or "you've got text", or >>even better "you've got text from your mother" or something descriptive?

    The problem with that, is that if there are people around you, they
    will also know what's happening.

    If you are in a noisy environment, you will not hear what's being
    said.

    I have one of those smart watches. It will display notifications on
    its screen. All you have to do, is to look at your arm.

    If you need reading glasses, this is probably not an optimal solution.

    --
    Cheers, Bev
    When your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a thumb.

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  • From The Real Bev@21:1/5 to Bob Henson on Sun Sep 3 10:38:54 2023
    On 9/3/23 8:29 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
    Frankie wrote:

    On 3/9/2023, Bob Henson wrote:

    Especially since there's no way to set it to a personal MP3 saying
    "You got a text from your mother" (or something verbal like that).

    I have my phone set to say "You have email" when one arrives, and it can be >>> done for any app that allows setting its own notification sound. I recorded >>> my voice saying the message and set Gmail to use that as the notification. >>> You can even have different ones for different Gmail accounts. If I'm
    anywhere where quiet is essential, I can divert all notifications to a
    quiet beep on the watch and see who it is on the watch.

    The trick is, as you said, the app (and not the operating system settings), >> has to be able to call its own notification messages of "you have text."

    There is a great ad-free free "Tell Me" text-to-WAV app that creates them. >> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simplycomplexapps.ASTellme >>
    What I do is save those text-to-speech messages to a notifications folder. >> Then each app that can be set to a custom notification uses that WAV file. >>

    That's exactly how I do it - quite handy. Inbound phone calls I do with
    music usually - if the phone plays "ride of the Valkyries" I know it's
    SWMBO. :-)

    A friend had "Ding dong the witch is dead" for his mother-in-law.

    --
    Cheers, Bev
    When your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a thumb.

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  • From Carlos E. R.@21:1/5 to Frank Slootweg on Sun Sep 3 18:25:24 2023
    On 2023-09-03 13:56, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Patrick <patrick@oleary.com> wrote:
    I get all sorts of noises when "things happen" on my phone.
    Sometimes the phone is in my hands but often it's out of sight.

    All I get is a blip or a ding or a bong or a cling for a noise.
    Then I have to open the phone and search all over for why.

    Why do you "have to ... search all over for why"?

    Of course you have to 'open' it, assuming that means opening the cover
    - if any - or/and switch it 'on' (so the display lights up) and hence it obviously doesn't work "while the phone is in your pocket", but once
    switched 'on', all notifications should be on the Notification Panel,
    i.e. the panel you see by sliding down from the top of the screen and
    there is no need to search all over for why".

    If you get a (audible/vibrating) notification, but the notification is
    not listed on the Notification Panel, you need to change the
    notification settings for that app to *do* show the notification.

    And how do you find that app, if you only heard the notification?


    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Carlos E. R. on Mon Sep 4 10:35:02 2023
    Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    On 2023-09-03 13:56, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Patrick <patrick@oleary.com> wrote:
    I get all sorts of noises when "things happen" on my phone.
    Sometimes the phone is in my hands but often it's out of sight.

    All I get is a blip or a ding or a bong or a cling for a noise.
    Then I have to open the phone and search all over for why.

    Why do you "have to ... search all over for why"?

    Of course you have to 'open' it, assuming that means opening the cover
    - if any - or/and switch it 'on' (so the display lights up) and hence it obviously doesn't work "while the phone is in your pocket", but once switched 'on', all notifications should be on the Notification Panel,
    i.e. the panel you see by sliding down from the top of the screen and
    there is no need to search all over for why".

    If you get a (audible/vibrating) notification, but the notification is not listed on the Notification Panel, you need to change the
    notification settings for that app to *do* show the notification.

    And how do you find that app, if you only heard the notification?

    For many (most? all?) apps there will be an indication on/in the icon
    of the app on the Home screen or Apps screen/pages.

    But, probably/perhaps depending on your phone, there is/might_be a notification history.

    For example on my Samsung Galaxy A51 (at the moment Android 13, but
    probably also on 10/11/12):

    Settings -> Notifications -> Advanced settings -> Notification history.

    This shows the notification history in date/time order, most recent
    first. For example it says that my phone charged at 06:35! :-) It also
    shows recent clock, Play Store update, WhatsApp :-), etc., etc.
    notifications. And it shows details of the notifications, for example
    the text of the WhatsApp message.

    Ain't Android (or Samsung?) great! :-)

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  • From Carlos E. R.@21:1/5 to Frank Slootweg on Mon Sep 4 08:34:00 2023
    On 2023-09-04 06:35, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    On 2023-09-03 13:56, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Patrick <patrick@oleary.com> wrote:
    I get all sorts of noises when "things happen" on my phone.
    Sometimes the phone is in my hands but often it's out of sight.

    All I get is a blip or a ding or a bong or a cling for a noise.
    Then I have to open the phone and search all over for why.

    Why do you "have to ... search all over for why"?

    Of course you have to 'open' it, assuming that means opening the cover >>> - if any - or/and switch it 'on' (so the display lights up) and hence it >>> obviously doesn't work "while the phone is in your pocket", but once
    switched 'on', all notifications should be on the Notification Panel,
    i.e. the panel you see by sliding down from the top of the screen and
    there is no need to search all over for why".

    If you get a (audible/vibrating) notification, but the notification is >>> not listed on the Notification Panel, you need to change the
    notification settings for that app to *do* show the notification.

    And how do you find that app, if you only heard the notification?

    For many (most? all?) apps there will be an indication on/in the icon
    of the app on the Home screen or Apps screen/pages.

    But, probably/perhaps depending on your phone, there is/might_be a notification history.

    For example on my Samsung Galaxy A51 (at the moment Android 13, but probably also on 10/11/12):

    Settings -> Notifications -> Advanced settings -> Notification history.

    This shows the notification history in date/time order, most recent
    first. For example it says that my phone charged at 06:35! :-) It also
    shows recent clock, Play Store update, WhatsApp :-), etc., etc. notifications. And it shows details of the notifications, for example
    the text of the WhatsApp message.

    The history is sometimes cryptic to figure out, it may have only the
    internal name of the notification.


    Ain't Android (or Samsung?) great! :-)

    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Carlos E. R. on Mon Sep 4 15:02:44 2023
    Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    On 2023-09-04 06:35, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    On 2023-09-03 13:56, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Patrick <patrick@oleary.com> wrote:
    I get all sorts of noises when "things happen" on my phone.
    Sometimes the phone is in my hands but often it's out of sight.

    All I get is a blip or a ding or a bong or a cling for a noise.
    Then I have to open the phone and search all over for why.

    Why do you "have to ... search all over for why"?

    Of course you have to 'open' it, assuming that means opening the cover
    - if any - or/and switch it 'on' (so the display lights up) and hence it >>> obviously doesn't work "while the phone is in your pocket", but once
    switched 'on', all notifications should be on the Notification Panel, >>> i.e. the panel you see by sliding down from the top of the screen and
    there is no need to search all over for why".

    If you get a (audible/vibrating) notification, but the notification is
    not listed on the Notification Panel, you need to change the
    notification settings for that app to *do* show the notification.

    And how do you find that app, if you only heard the notification?

    For many (most? all?) apps there will be an indication on/in the icon
    of the app on the Home screen or Apps screen/pages.

    But, probably/perhaps depending on your phone, there is/might_be a notification history.

    For example on my Samsung Galaxy A51 (at the moment Android 13, but probably also on 10/11/12):

    Settings -> Notifications -> Advanced settings -> Notification history.

    This shows the notification history in date/time order, most recent first. For example it says that my phone charged at 06:35! :-) It also shows recent clock, Play Store update, WhatsApp :-), etc., etc. notifications. And it shows details of the notifications, for example
    the text of the WhatsApp message.

    The history is sometimes cryptic to figure out, it may have only the
    internal name of the notification.

    Well, on my phone it has - *without exception* - the icon or/and the
    name of the app which gave the notification. What more could/would one
    want?

    For example for a no-app-icon case: It says "Google Play Store", gives
    a download icon (not the Play Store App icon) and says which (update for
    which) app was downloaded.

    And for a case of "only the internal name of the notification": The
    'internal name' is "System UI", i.e. somewhat unspecific, but the
    notification history says "Charging (20 m until full)" and the icon is a lightning symbol, so it's blatantly clear that this notification is
    related to charging and hence to the charging settings.

    Doesn't your phone give that kind of information? If not, please give
    an example of an unclear/ambiguous entry (in the notification history).

    Ain't Android (or Samsung?) great! :-)

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  • From Wolf Greenblatt@21:1/5 to Frank Slootweg on Mon Sep 4 13:24:13 2023
    On 4 Sep 2023 10:35:02 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    Settings -> Notifications -> Advanced settings -> Notification history.

    You can get there with a single tap on an icon put onto your homescreen.

    Android 12 Galaxy has this also where a direct shortcut to that page is
    com.android.settings/com.android.settings.notification.history.NotificationHistoryActivity

    Put that settings shortcut on your homescreen (or in your settings
    shortcuts folder) and then it's only a single tap to open it up!

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  • From Bob Henson@21:1/5 to The Real Bev on Sat Sep 9 18:23:48 2023
    The Real Bev wrote:

    On 9/3/23 8:29 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
    Frankie wrote:

    On 3/9/2023, Bob Henson wrote:

    Especially since there's no way to set it to a personal MP3 saying
    "You got a text from your mother" (or something verbal like that).

    I have my phone set to say "You have email" when one arrives, and it can be
    done for any app that allows setting its own notification sound. I recorded
    my voice saying the message and set Gmail to use that as the notification. >>>> You can even have different ones for different Gmail accounts. If I'm
    anywhere where quiet is essential, I can divert all notifications to a >>>> quiet beep on the watch and see who it is on the watch.

    The trick is, as you said, the app (and not the operating system settings), >>> has to be able to call its own notification messages of "you have text." >>>
    There is a great ad-free free "Tell Me" text-to-WAV app that creates them. >>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simplycomplexapps.ASTellme

    What I do is save those text-to-speech messages to a notifications folder. >>> Then each app that can be set to a custom notification uses that WAV file. >>>

    That's exactly how I do it - quite handy. Inbound phone calls I do with
    music usually - if the phone plays "ride of the Valkyries" I know it's
    SWMBO. :-)

    A friend had "Ding dong the witch is dead" for his mother-in-law.

    You can say a lot with music - my Dad wanted the organist to play "Rescue
    the Perishing" at his wedding but they refused, so he changed religion from Church of England to golf.

    --
    Bob
    Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

    Barbecue - Food prepared alfresco on a grill in the belief that salmonella-infected meat cooked in sweat and dead flies is appetising.

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  • From The Real Bev@21:1/5 to Bob Henson on Sat Sep 9 12:47:22 2023
    On 9/9/23 10:23 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
    The Real Bev wrote:

    On 9/3/23 8:29 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
    Frankie wrote:

    On 3/9/2023, Bob Henson wrote:

    Especially since there's no way to set it to a personal MP3 saying >>>>>> "You got a text from your mother" (or something verbal like that).

    I have my phone set to say "You have email" when one arrives, and it can be
    done for any app that allows setting its own notification sound. I recorded
    my voice saying the message and set Gmail to use that as the notification.
    You can even have different ones for different Gmail accounts. If I'm >>>>> anywhere where quiet is essential, I can divert all notifications to a >>>>> quiet beep on the watch and see who it is on the watch.

    The trick is, as you said, the app (and not the operating system settings),
    has to be able to call its own notification messages of "you have text." >>>>
    There is a great ad-free free "Tell Me" text-to-WAV app that creates them. >>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simplycomplexapps.ASTellme

    What I do is save those text-to-speech messages to a notifications folder. >>>> Then each app that can be set to a custom notification uses that WAV file. >>>
    That's exactly how I do it - quite handy. Inbound phone calls I do with
    music usually - if the phone plays "ride of the Valkyries" I know it's
    SWMBO. :-)

    A friend had "Ding dong the witch is dead" for his mother-in-law.

    You can say a lot with music - my Dad wanted the organist to play "Rescue
    the Perishing" at his wedding but they refused, so he changed religion from Church of England to golf.

    Surprised the bride didn't complain.

    --
    Cheers, Bev
    "Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Tell him that the
    government will give him lots of fish and he will vote for you
    forever.
    When he doesn't get any fish, blame the other guys." -A Taxpayer

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  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to Frank Slootweg on Sat Sep 9 16:37:37 2023
    Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote

    The history is sometimes cryptic to figure out, it may have only the
    internal name of the notification.

    Well, on my phone it has - *without exception* - the icon or/and the
    name of the app which gave the notification. What more could/would one
    want?

    See also...

    *How to make a one-tap shortcut to your notification history*
    <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/AkTqfiBUr1I>

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