On 7/17/23 3:00 PM, josh allen wrote:

I thought Apple's updates and etc go only so far as their hardware is >supported, since you are paying for the hardware and software to work in >harmony. Since hardware is as much as software for apple, once hardware
is deprecated apple tells you go buy new thing.

Microsoft loves backwards compatibility because thats their modus
operandi. If they break BC then people will leave and use a VM like VMware.

Android releases are kind of tied to the hardware yet not really so you
can support android longer than apple's rotten os.

Linux is linux and as such can be supported indefinitely if you want to.

And then you have Google. This new Chromebook tablet I'm posting with has an
AUE of June 2028. So about about 5 years. Though Amazon delivered it within
12 hours of purchase (Prime day deal) I think it probably sat awhile in
storage after manufacture as the battery was completely flat. No biggie,
I'll be tired of it by then and have a new toy...

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AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:

And then you have Google. This new Chromebook tablet I'm posting with has an
AUE of June 2028. So about about 5 years. Though Amazon delivered it within
12 hours of purchase (Prime day deal) I think it probably sat awhile in
storage after manufacture as the battery was completely flat. No biggie,
I'll be tired of it by then and have a new toy...

There's no fundamental difference between ChromeOS and iOS.

It seems to me that Android is like Linux and even macOS is like Linux and Windows is like a system that tried to be like iOS but failed in walling
its customers into only getting things from the Microsoft Store.

Nobody uses the Microsoft Store.
And nobody has to use the Android Store.
And nobody has to get all the Linux tools from a single repo either.

But both ChromeOS and iOS limit the user to a single crappy store.
Neither ChromeOS nor iOS allow anything useful outside the store.

It's surprising that Google got as far as it did by copying iOS.

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On 7/17/2023 8:36 PM, Eric the Red wrote:

AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:

And then you have Google. This new Chromebook tablet I'm posting
with has an AUE of June 2028. So about about 5 years. Though
Amazon delivered it within 12 hours of purchase (Prime day deal) I
think it probably sat awhile in storage after manufacture as the
battery was completely flat. No biggie, I'll be tired of it by then
and have a new toy...

There's no fundamental difference between ChromeOS and iOS.

I just noticed a bug in my Android newsreader PhoNews installed on my
new Chromebook tablet that was used to post my above response. Even
though there were multiple groups in josh allen's post, when I responded PhoNews axed all of them except the comp.mobile.android group without
asking. Sorry about that. Still looking for a good Android newsreader...

Nobody uses the Microsoft Store.

My last MS store fun was trying out their new Windows Android emulator
but was somewhat disappointed. Maybe it'll get better in the future.

Neither ChromeOS nor iOS allow anything useful outside the store.

I'm looking at a button in settings on my new Chromebook tablet. If I
push it I get the "Linux development environment: Run Linux tools,
editors, and IDEs on your Chromebook" Should I push it? Will I be
outside the Store... 8-O

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On 7/18/23 7:31 AM, Wally J wrote:

AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote

Nobody uses the Microsoft Store.

My last MS store fun was trying out their new Windows Android emulator
but was somewhat disappointed. Maybe it'll get better in the future.

The MS Store is an attempt to try to copy Apple's highly lucrative >choice-limitation marketing to force you to get all apps from them.

Add the Amazon App store too for the Fire OS devices. Makes sense. That's a
very good business model.

Last I checked, Genymotion had the best free Windows Android emulation, >although BlueStacks emulation freeware wasn't too far behind Genymotion.

I went the other way on one of my earlier Android toys. I used Bluestacks to
emulate Widows so that I could run Thunderbird.

Run a search in the Android newsgroup for emulation to find discussions. >https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android

Thanks but I was just curious about the MS emulator. Most everything I do
online these days can be done in a Chrome browser or Tablet. I had modified
my Fire tablets to run both Google and Amazon apps but have since wiped
them for security reasons.

Neither ChromeOS nor iOS allow anything useful outside the store.

I'm looking at a button in settings on my new Chromebook tablet. If I
push it I get the "Linux development environment: Run Linux tool,
editors, and IDEs on your Chromebook" Should I push it? Will I be
outside the Store... 8-O

It's surprising that ChromeOS copied Apple's limiting strategy at all.
When I think of ChromeOS I think of only a slight improvement on iOS.
They make their money by purposefully & drastically limiting your choices. >It's why Apple is one of the most profitable companies in the world.

You can run most linux distros inside of Android without being rooted.

Many discussions are also on that topic in the archives. >https://groups.google.com/g/alt.os.linux

Here's a tutorial for starters. >https://computingforgeeks.com/how-to-run-linux-on-android-devices-using-andronix-app/

Thanks again but I played with Linux some years back and enjoyed it at the
time but probably won't go back in this lifetime...

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