What's a good way to maintain private contacts outside the normal contacts?
Is there an app for that?
What's a good way to maintain private contacts outside the normal contacts? >>
Is there an app for that?
What do "normal" and "private" mean in this context? Does private mean
that your contacts shouldn't sync to an external service?
As far as I'm aware, the stock Android (AOSP) contacts app is able to
use a local store for contacts. It also supports external accounts (i.e.
a Google account). The way the app displays contacts (which accounts are displayed) is configured in its settings.
That's my practice: keeping a local contact store on the phone
(private), and having the stock Contacts app display them along with
contacts on a CardDAV server (not private).
On 03-07-2023 19:33 Arnold Knight <no-email@invalid.com> wrote:
What's a good way to maintain private contacts outside the normal
contacts?
Is there an app for that?
What do "normal" and "private" mean in this context? Does private mean
that your contacts shouldn't sync to an external service?
Thank you for asking for a clarification of what I called "private" and
what you seem to be calling "local", meaning these contacts are NOT in the default sqlite database that each Android phone stores its contacts in.
Let's say I want to have a conversation with my wife, while I'm in bed.
Do I really want my neighbors "syncing" that private conversation?
That private conversation should stay in the bedroom between me and her.
Same with private contacts.
They stay on the phone.
I don't want my contacts EVER uploaded to ANY server anywhere.
For that, I have to keep them out of the default sqlite contacts database.
What's a good way to maintain private contacts outside the normal contacts?
Is there an app for that?
Let's say I want to have a conversation with my wife, while I'm in bed.
Do I really want my neighbors "syncing" that private conversation?
That private conversation should stay in the bedroom between me and her.
I don't want my contacts EVER uploaded to ANY server anywhere.
On 03-07-2023 19:33 Arnold Knight <no-email@invalid.com> wrote:
What's a good way to maintain private contacts outside the normal
contacts?
Is there an app for that?
What do "normal" and "private" mean in this context? Does private mean
that your contacts shouldn't sync to an external service?
Thank you for asking for a clarification of what I called "private" and
what you seem to be calling "local", meaning these contacts are NOT in the default sqlite database that each Android phone stores its contacts in.
Let's say I want to have a conversation with my wife, while I'm in bed.
Do I really want my neighbors "syncing" that private conversation?
That private conversation should stay in the bedroom between me and her.
Same with private contacts.
They stay on the phone.
I don't want my contacts EVER uploaded to ANY server anywhere.
For that, I have to keep them out of the default sqlite contacts database.
I don't want my contacts EVER uploaded to ANY server anywhere.
You use the wrong OS.
Joerg Lorenz wrote:
I don't want my contacts EVER uploaded to ANY server anywhere.
You useĀ the wrong OS.
You're on the wrong newsgroup because the iPhone is far worse than Android.
If you owned an iPhone, then your entire conversations with your wife & doctor are listened to - with ZERO redactions! - by low-paid hourly-wage non-Apple contractors overseas who have no right to listen to them.
Or maybe you haven't read the news that Apple sent millions of people's conversations overseas, with no encryption, to non-Apple employees (who
were simply hourly wage contractors in Ireland) of everything you asked
Siri (and if you had an apple watch, almost everything you ever said)?
For years!
All the while advertising privacy that doesn't (and can't) exist on iOS.
On 2023-07-04 07:49, mike wrote:[...]
Same with private contacts.
They stay on the phone.
I don't want my contacts EVER uploaded to ANY server anywhere.
For that, I have to keep them out of the default sqlite contacts database.
You could put those contacts on the SIM card. I did that on the past,
they were not synced by google.
I just tried to create a new contact using the default app. I looked carefully, and near the top there is a line:
Save in : name@gmail.com
That is, it is going to be saved on my google account, but I can change
that to "device". I assume "device" is not the SIM card.
On 04-07-2023 15:11 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
How hard can that be!?
Good question.
The point is that only the apps that need contacts should store them
locally. How hard of a concept is that for you to understand is up to you.
The messenger and the dialer are the only apps that need contacts.
Again, how hard that is for you to understand is up to your descretion.
Google Maps, for example, does not need them. Neither does WhatsApp.
Once more, how hard that is for you to understand is your issue. Not mine.
It's clear you don't understand the question because you probably know nothing about Android and how Android stores contacts in an sqlite db.
Likely because of your lack of understanding of computers in general, you seem to think contacts have to be ubiquitously available to all apps.
They don't.
Contacts only need to be stored locally in the few apps that need them.
Like the messenger.
And the dialer.
There is never a reason to store the contacts on the Internet.
And that's to protect YOUR privacy (not mine).
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-07-04 07:49, mike wrote:[...]
Same with private contacts.You could put those contacts on the SIM card. I did that on the past,
They stay on the phone.
I don't want my contacts EVER uploaded to ANY server anywhere.
For that, I have to keep them out of the default sqlite contacts database. >>
they were not synced by google.
I just tried to create a new contact using the default app. I looked
carefully, and near the top there is a line:
Save in : name@gmail.com
That is, it is going to be saved on my google account, but I can change
that to "device". I assume "device" is not the SIM card.
Sigh! Don't you get it!? It's really quite simple: 'mike' aka 'Arlen' wants his contacts on the phone without them being on the phone! How
hard can that be!?
How hard can that be!?
This is good to know if this "stock Android (AOSP) contacts app" can be found.
Do you recommend any of those apps to keep the contacts local (which means they can not be stored in the default sqlite contacts location on Android)?
This is good to know if this "stock Android (AOSP) contacts app" can be
found.
Mine came with GrapheneOS, so I never had to look for it.
Do you recommend any of those apps to keep the contacts local (which means >> they can not be stored in the default sqlite contacts location on Android)?
You might take a look at this app: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/opencontacts.open.com.opencontacts/
I will test this out and let you know what I find out soon about it.
The end result won't change my privacy at all - but it will help others.
1. I used fake contacts to falsely populate the real contacts sqlite db.
https://f-droid.org/packages/me.billdietrich.fake_contacts/
The main advantage is if I see those contacts showing up in any app,
then I know there is a leak on that app of the real contacts sqlite db.
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