I have a Pixel 4a. What happens to its display of the time when
traveling on an airplane? Does the time zone change automatically as
needed, or do I have to do it manually?
I also have a Garmin Venu SQ watch. Does the time on it synch to the
phone, or do I also have to do that manually?
I have a Pixel 4a. What happens to its display of the time when
traveling on an airplane? Does the time zone change automatically as
needed, or do I have to do it manually?
I also have a Garmin Venu SQ watch. Does the time on it synch to the
phone, or do I also have to do that manually?
I have a Pixel 4a. What happens to its display of the time when
traveling on an airplane? Does the time zone change automatically as
needed, or do I have to do it manually?
Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
I have a Pixel 4a. What happens to its display of the time when
traveling on an airplane? Does the time zone change automatically as
needed, or do I have to do it manually?
Normally it stays at the time zone of the origin and switches to the
time zone of the destination as soon as your phone picks up the mobile >('cell') network there.
If you switch off flight-mode during the flight - which you shouldn't -
it might pick up a cell tower en-route (and set the timezone
accordinly), but with a normal commercial flight that's highly unlikely.
I also have a Garmin Venu SQ watch. Does the time on it synch to the
phone, or do I also have to do that manually?
Depends on the watch. My Fitbit Charge 4 syncs with the phone (but
sometimes needs an Internet connection as well).
Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
I have a Pixel 4a. What happens to its display of the time when
traveling on an airplane? Does the time zone change automatically as
needed, or do I have to do it manually?
It'll pick up the correct timezone whenever you connect to a local network.
On 2023-07-01 18:26, Chris wrote:
Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
I have a Pixel 4a. What happens to its display of the time when
traveling on an airplane? Does the time zone change automatically as
needed, or do I have to do it manually?
It'll pick up the correct timezone whenever you connect to a local network.
Define correct :-)
Things get interesting when you are near a frontier (or time zone
frontier), and each side keeps different time zones or different summer
time switch. Or the mobile network provider keeps a different time zone,
that is :-)
If you switch off flight-mode during the flight - which you shouldn't -
it might pick up a cell tower en-route (and set the timezone
accordinly), but with a normal commercial flight that's highly unlikely.
On 2023-07-01 18:26, Chris wrote:
Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
I have a Pixel 4a. What happens to its display of the time when
traveling on an airplane? Does the time zone change automatically as
needed, or do I have to do it manually?
It'll pick up the correct timezone whenever you connect to a local network.
Define correct :-)
Things get interesting when you are near a frontier (or time zone
frontier), and each side keeps different time zones or different summer
time switch. Or the mobile network provider keeps a different time zone,
that is :-)
On 1 Jul 2023 13:34:06 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:
If you switch off flight-mode during the flight - which you shouldn't -
it might pick up a cell tower en-route (and set the timezone
accordinly), but with a normal commercial flight that's highly unlikely.
Also if you use in-flight wi-fi it can change the time zone to
something completely different. Presumably it's the time zone of
wherever the internet gateway is on the ground is located.
On Sat, 1 Jul 2023 23:40:20 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-07-01 18:26, Chris wrote:
Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:Define correct :-)
I have a Pixel 4a. What happens to its display of the time when
traveling on an airplane? Does the time zone change automatically as
needed, or do I have to do it manually?
It'll pick up the correct timezone whenever you connect to a local network. >>
Things get interesting when you are near a frontier (or time zone
frontier), and each side keeps different time zones or different summer
time switch. Or the mobile network provider keeps a different time zone,
that is :-)
When I was in the Canary Isles my phone adjusted to Spanish time,
which was incorrect by 1 hour because there's a time difference to
mainland Spain. I had to set the time manually to get it correct.
On 1 Jul 2023 13:34:06 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:
If you switch off flight-mode during the flight - which you shouldn't - >>it might pick up a cell tower en-route (and set the timezone
accordinly), but with a normal commercial flight that's highly unlikely.
Also if you use in-flight wi-fi
it can change the time zone to
something completely different. Presumably it's the time zone of
wherever the internet gateway is on the ground is located.
Chris
On 1 Jul 2023 13:34:06 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:
If you switch off flight-mode during the flight - which you shouldn't -
it might pick up a cell tower en-route (and set the timezone
accordinly), but with a normal commercial flight that's highly unlikely.
Also if you use in-flight wi-fi it can change the time zone to
something completely different. Presumably it's the time zone of
wherever the internet gateway is on the ground is located.
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-07-01 18:26, Chris wrote:
Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:Define correct :-)
I have a Pixel 4a. What happens to its display of the time when
traveling on an airplane? Does the time zone change automatically as
needed, or do I have to do it manually?
It'll pick up the correct timezone whenever you connect to a local network. >>
Things get interesting when you are near a frontier (or time zone
frontier), and each side keeps different time zones or different summer
time switch. Or the mobile network provider keeps a different time zone,
that is :-)
True I guess. Although, I've never been in that situation. I suppose the Spain/Portugal border is one such place.
I know at Freiburg-Mulhouse-Basel Airport can be a problem as you can end
up on a non-EU network which can be expensive for some.
On Sun, 02 Jul 2023 11:22:33 +0800, Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com>
wrote:
On 1 Jul 2023 13:34:06 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:
If you switch off flight-mode during the flight - which you shouldn't - >>it might pick up a cell tower en-route (and set the timezone
accordinly), but with a normal commercial flight that's highly unlikely.
Also if you use in-flight wi-fi
I won't. Too expensive and not needed.
Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
On 1 Jul 2023 13:34:06 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:
If you switch off flight-mode during the flight - which you shouldn't - >>> it might pick up a cell tower en-route (and set the timezone
accordinly), but with a normal commercial flight that's highly unlikely.
Also if you use in-flight wi-fi it can change the time zone to
something completely different. Presumably it's the time zone of
wherever the internet gateway is on the ground is located.
As Carlos also mentioned. this shouldn't happen, because the phone
should get the time from the *mobile* ('cell') network, not from a Wi-Fi network. OTOH, a smartphone is a bit of a computer, so some smartphone
could get the time from 'the Internet' via NTP (Network Time Protocol).
Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
On Sun, 02 Jul 2023 11:22:33 +0800, Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com>
wrote:
On 1 Jul 2023 13:34:06 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:
If you switch off flight-mode during the flight - which you shouldn't - >>>> it might pick up a cell tower en-route (and set the timezoneAlso if you use in-flight wi-fi
accordinly), but with a normal commercial flight that's highly unlikely. >>>
I won't. Too expensive and not needed.
Many airlines, especially on international flights (you're flying to Italy, aren't you?) offer free Wi-Fi for *messaging*, i.e. things like WhatsApp, iMessages, etc., 'even' in economy class. We/I used it to
keep in touch with the homefront during our flights to/from Australia
(via the US! :-)) and my flights to/from the US.
[...]
Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
On Sun, 02 Jul 2023 11:22:33 +0800, Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com>
wrote:
On 1 Jul 2023 13:34:06 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:
If you switch off flight-mode during the flight - which you shouldn't - >> >>it might pick up a cell tower en-route (and set the timezoneAlso if you use in-flight wi-fi
accordinly), but with a normal commercial flight that's highly unlikely. >> >
I won't. Too expensive and not needed.
Many airlines, especially on international flights (you're flying to
Italy, aren't you?)
offer free Wi-Fi for *messaging*, i.e. things like
WhatsApp, iMessages, etc., 'even' in economy class. We/I used it to
keep in touch with the homefront during our flights to/from Australia
(via the US! :-)) and my flights to/from the US.
[...]
On 2023-07-02 19:55, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
On 1 Jul 2023 13:34:06 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:
If you switch off flight-mode during the flight - which you shouldn't - >>> it might pick up a cell tower en-route (and set the timezoneAlso if you use in-flight wi-fi it can change the time zone to
accordinly), but with a normal commercial flight that's highly unlikely. >>
something completely different. Presumably it's the time zone of
wherever the internet gateway is on the ground is located.
As Carlos also mentioned. this shouldn't happen, because the phone should get the time from the *mobile* ('cell') network, not from a Wi-Fi network. OTOH, a smartphone is a bit of a computer, so some smartphone could get the time from 'the Internet' via NTP (Network Time Protocol).
Yes. But NTP uses UTC, not local time. There is no zone information in
NTP protocol.
But computers using the Windows method to setup time, those can be
affected, they use "local" time.
On 2023-07-02 12:51, Chris wrote:
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-07-01 18:26, Chris wrote:
Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
I have a Pixel 4a. What happens to its display of the time when
traveling on an airplane? Does the time zone change automatically as >>>>> needed, or do I have to do it manually?
It'll pick up the correct timezone whenever you connect to a local network.
Define correct :-)
Things get interesting when you are near a frontier (or time zone
frontier), and each side keeps different time zones or different summer
time switch. Or the mobile network provider keeps a different time zone, >>> that is :-)
True I guess. Although, I've never been in that situation. I suppose the
Spain/Portugal border is one such place.
I know at Freiburg-Mulhouse-Basel Airport can be a problem as you can end
up on a non-EU network which can be expensive for some.
Indeed.
Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
On 1 Jul 2023 13:34:06 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:
If you switch off flight-mode during the flight - which you shouldn't - >> >it might pick up a cell tower en-route (and set the timezone
accordinly), but with a normal commercial flight that's highly unlikely.
Also if you use in-flight wi-fi it can change the time zone to
something completely different. Presumably it's the time zone of
wherever the internet gateway is on the ground is located.
As Carlos also mentioned. this shouldn't happen, because the phone
should get the time from the *mobile* ('cell') network, not from a Wi-Fi >network. OTOH, a smartphone is a bit of a computer, so some smartphone
could get the time from 'the Internet' via NTP (Network Time Protocol).
When I was in the Canary Isles my phone adjusted to Spanish time,
which was incorrect by 1 hour because there's a time difference to
mainland Spain. I had to set the time manually to get it correct.
Were you using a Spanish provider? That's strange, I have not heard of
this problem.
On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 20:04:29 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-07-02 12:51, Chris wrote:
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-07-01 18:26, Chris wrote:
Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
I have a Pixel 4a. What happens to its display of the time when
traveling on an airplane? Does the time zone change automatically as >>>>>> needed, or do I have to do it manually?
It'll pick up the correct timezone whenever you connect to a local network.
Define correct :-)
Things get interesting when you are near a frontier (or time zone
frontier), and each side keeps different time zones or different summer >>>> time switch. Or the mobile network provider keeps a different time zone, >>>> that is :-)
True I guess. Although, I've never been in that situation. I suppose the >>> Spain/Portugal border is one such place.
I know at Freiburg-Mulhouse-Basel Airport can be a problem as you can end >>> up on a non-EU network which can be expensive for some.
Indeed.
I know that airport, which I thought was just called Basel, from
having flown home from there after cruising down the Rhine several
years ago. I was very surprised to find that, despite its name, it
wasn't even in Switzerland.
Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
I know that airport, which I thought was just called Basel, from
having flown home from there after cruising down the Rhine several
years ago. I was very surprised to find that, despite its name, it
wasn't even in Switzerland.
Me too when I flew to Basel a few years ago. You have to be very careful
when through border control as you'll end up in the wrong COUNTRY! :D
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-07-02 19:55, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
On 1 Jul 2023 13:34:06 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:
If you switch off flight-mode during the flight - which you shouldn't -Also if you use in-flight wi-fi it can change the time zone to
it might pick up a cell tower en-route (and set the timezone
accordinly), but with a normal commercial flight that's highly unlikely. >>>>
something completely different. Presumably it's the time zone of
wherever the internet gateway is on the ground is located.
As Carlos also mentioned. this shouldn't happen, because the phone
should get the time from the *mobile* ('cell') network, not from a Wi-Fi >>> network. OTOH, a smartphone is a bit of a computer, so some smartphone
could get the time from 'the Internet' via NTP (Network Time Protocol).
Yes. But NTP uses UTC, not local time. There is no zone information in
NTP protocol.
Oops! Brain fog! :-) Of course you're right.
Theoretically, the phone could get the UTC time by NTP and the
location - and hence the timezone - from GPS (or another location
source?), but that actually happening in a plane in full flight is highly unlikely.
OTOH, if the phone used Wi-Fi location services and Google somehow
tracks the location of the Wi-Fi AP in the plane, it *could* work, theoretically.
But computers using the Windows method to setup time, those can be
affected, they use "local" time.
But only if they know what location is "local", which won't happen in
a plane.
On 03.07.23 11:47, Chris wrote:
Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
I know that airport, which I thought was just called Basel, from
having flown home from there after cruising down the Rhine several
years ago. I was very surprised to find that, despite its name, it
wasn't even in Switzerland.
Me too when I flew to Basel a few years ago. You have to be very careful
when through border control as you'll end up in the wrong COUNTRY! :D
Bullshit. All three countries on the Basel-Mulhouse Airport which is the correct name are members of the Schengen Area.
On 2023-07-02 22:19, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-07-02 19:55, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:Yes. But NTP uses UTC, not local time. There is no zone information in
On 1 Jul 2023 13:34:06 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:
If you switch off flight-mode during the flight - which you shouldn't -
it might pick up a cell tower en-route (and set the timezone
accordinly), but with a normal commercial flight that's highly unlikely.
Also if you use in-flight wi-fi it can change the time zone to
something completely different. Presumably it's the time zone of
wherever the internet gateway is on the ground is located.
As Carlos also mentioned. this shouldn't happen, because the phone >>> should get the time from the *mobile* ('cell') network, not from a Wi-Fi >>> network. OTOH, a smartphone is a bit of a computer, so some smartphone >>> could get the time from 'the Internet' via NTP (Network Time Protocol). >>
NTP protocol.
Oops! Brain fog! :-) Of course you're right.
Theoretically, the phone could get the UTC time by NTP and the
location - and hence the timezone - from GPS (or another location
source?), but that actually happening in a plane in full flight is highly unlikely.
On some plains GPS works. On the last one I tried, I could not get a
fix, the metal cabin impeded it, I guess. Just a month before, I could
track the approach path. I think it did not work at altitude.
On 2 Jul 2023 17:55:05 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:
Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
On 1 Jul 2023 13:34:06 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:
If you switch off flight-mode during the flight - which you shouldn't - >> >it might pick up a cell tower en-route (and set the timezoneAlso if you use in-flight wi-fi it can change the time zone to
accordinly), but with a normal commercial flight that's highly unlikely. >>
something completely different. Presumably it's the time zone of
wherever the internet gateway is on the ground is located.
As Carlos also mentioned. this shouldn't happen, because the phone
should get the time from the *mobile* ('cell') network, not from a Wi-Fi >network. OTOH, a smartphone is a bit of a computer, so some smartphone >could get the time from 'the Internet' via NTP (Network Time Protocol).
I was using an iPhone, and the time definitely changed at some point
during the flight. I assumed it used Apple's Location Services to
determine that I was in a different time zone, but it definitely
didn't connect to a mobile network. My only connection with the
outside world was via a wi-fi connection I had used, or possibly a GPS signal.
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
Bullshit. All three countries on the Basel-Mulhouse Airport which is the
correct name are members of the Schengen Area.
All I can say is that when I went there were many, many signs making sure
you ended up in the correct country. Not sure what schengen has to do with it...
On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 12:33:09 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
When I was in the Canary Isles my phone adjusted to Spanish time,
which was incorrect by 1 hour because there's a time difference to
mainland Spain. I had to set the time manually to get it correct.
Were you using a Spanish provider? That's strange, I have not heard of
this problem.
I was roaming during my visit there, but don't remember which Spanish
network I was connected to.
Chris
Am 03.07.23 um 17:05 schrieb Chris:
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
Bullshit. All three countries on the Basel-Mulhouse Airport which is the >>> correct name are members of the Schengen Area.
All I can say is that when I went there were many, many signs making sure
you ended up in the correct country. Not sure what schengen has to do with >> it...
That is an organisational issue.
The Airport is located on French territory.
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-07-02 22:19, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-07-02 19:55, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:Yes. But NTP uses UTC, not local time. There is no zone information in >>>> NTP protocol.
On 1 Jul 2023 13:34:06 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> >>>>>> wrote:
If you switch off flight-mode during the flight - which you shouldn't -
it might pick up a cell tower en-route (and set the timezone
accordinly), but with a normal commercial flight that's highly unlikely.
Also if you use in-flight wi-fi it can change the time zone to
something completely different. Presumably it's the time zone of
wherever the internet gateway is on the ground is located.
As Carlos also mentioned. this shouldn't happen, because the phone >>>>> should get the time from the *mobile* ('cell') network, not from a Wi-Fi >>>>> network. OTOH, a smartphone is a bit of a computer, so some smartphone >>>>> could get the time from 'the Internet' via NTP (Network Time Protocol). >>>>
Oops! Brain fog! :-) Of course you're right.
Theoretically, the phone could get the UTC time by NTP and the
location - and hence the timezone - from GPS (or another location
source?), but that actually happening in a plane in full flight is highly >>> unlikely.
On some plains GPS works. On the last one I tried, I could not get a
fix, the metal cabin impeded it, I guess. Just a month before, I could
track the approach path. I think it did not work at altitude.
Sigh! More brain fog! :-(
I actually used the GPS in my Android tablet on a flight from
Darwin (Australia) to Singapore. That plane didn't have any personal
screen, so also no flight-path info. I wanted to know how we were progressing, so I used the world map of the OsmAnd+ app with the
tablet's GPS, while holding the tablet near the window. Worked perfectly fine.
So my described scenario is not "highly unlikely", it 'just' depends
on the right software (SMOP, Small Matter Of Programming) to use the
location from GPS and NTP via the plane's Wi-Fi network, to set the time
of the phone. (Don't know if the plane's Wi-Fi would allow a connection
to the NTP port.)
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
On 03.07.23 11:47, Chris wrote:
Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
I know that airport, which I thought was just called Basel, from
having flown home from there after cruising down the Rhine several
years ago. I was very surprised to find that, despite its name, it
wasn't even in Switzerland.
Me too when I flew to Basel a few years ago. You have to be very careful >>> when through border control as you'll end up in the wrong COUNTRY! :D
Bullshit. All three countries on the Basel-Mulhouse Airport which is the
correct name are members of the Schengen Area.
All I can say is that when I went there were many, many signs making sure
you ended up in the correct country. Not sure what schengen has to do with it...
On 2023-07-03 17:05, Chris wrote:
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
On 03.07.23 11:47, Chris wrote:
Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
I know that airport, which I thought was just called Basel, from
having flown home from there after cruising down the Rhine several
years ago. I was very surprised to find that, despite its name, it
wasn't even in Switzerland.
Me too when I flew to Basel a few years ago. You have to be very careful >>>> when through border control as you'll end up in the wrong COUNTRY! :D
Bullshit. All three countries on the Basel-Mulhouse Airport which is the >>> correct name are members of the Schengen Area.
All I can say is that when I went there were many, many signs making sure
you ended up in the correct country. Not sure what schengen has to do with >> it...
That there are no frontiers. Once outside, if you end on the "wrong
country" you can go around the airport to the intended one, without a passport control (normally). Of course, not knowing the area this can be quite inconvenient.
I did not know this peculiarity of that airport, so thanks for telling
us :-)
On 2023-07-03 17:39, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-07-02 22:19, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-07-02 19:55, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:Yes. But NTP uses UTC, not local time. There is no zone information in >>>> NTP protocol.
On 1 Jul 2023 13:34:06 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> >>>>>> wrote:
If you switch off flight-mode during the flight - which you shouldn't -
it might pick up a cell tower en-route (and set the timezone
accordinly), but with a normal commercial flight that's highly unlikely.
Also if you use in-flight wi-fi it can change the time zone to
something completely different. Presumably it's the time zone of >>>>>> wherever the internet gateway is on the ground is located.
As Carlos also mentioned. this shouldn't happen, because the phone >>>>> should get the time from the *mobile* ('cell') network, not from a Wi-Fi
network. OTOH, a smartphone is a bit of a computer, so some smartphone >>>>> could get the time from 'the Internet' via NTP (Network Time Protocol). >>>>
Oops! Brain fog! :-) Of course you're right.
Theoretically, the phone could get the UTC time by NTP and the
location - and hence the timezone - from GPS (or another location
source?), but that actually happening in a plane in full flight is highly >>> unlikely.
On some plains GPS works. On the last one I tried, I could not get a
Goof.plane or airplane
fix, the metal cabin impeded it, I guess. Just a month before, I could
track the approach path. I think it did not work at altitude.
Sigh! More brain fog! :-(
I actually used the GPS in my Android tablet on a flight from
Darwin (Australia) to Singapore. That plane didn't have any personal screen, so also no flight-path info. I wanted to know how we were progressing, so I used the world map of the OsmAnd+ app with the
tablet's GPS, while holding the tablet near the window. Worked perfectly fine.
I don't remember if I tried placing the phone at the window, maybe I did
not have a window seat.
So my described scenario is not "highly unlikely", it 'just' depends
on the right software (SMOP, Small Matter Of Programming) to use the location from GPS and NTP via the plane's Wi-Fi network, to set the time
of the phone. (Don't know if the plane's Wi-Fi would allow a connection
to the NTP port.)
I think it is a service provided by the "router", if it is a good one.
It will have a DHCP server, and I think time is one of the services it
can assign and say "ask the router". Some protocols need time in sync.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Host_Configuration_Protocol#Options>
See the table there, "time offset" is one posibility. "Time server" is another.
It makes sense for the flight "router" to provide several services
locally instead of the expensive internet.
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
On 03.07.23 11:47, Chris wrote:
Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
I know that airport, which I thought was just called Basel, from
having flown home from there after cruising down the Rhine several
years ago. I was very surprised to find that, despite its name, it
wasn't even in Switzerland.
Me too when I flew to Basel a few years ago. You have to be very careful >> when through border control as you'll end up in the wrong COUNTRY! :D
Bullshit. All three countries on the Basel-Mulhouse Airport which is the correct name are members of the Schengen Area.
All I can say is that when I went there were many, many signs making sure
you ended up in the correct country. Not sure what schengen has to do with it...
On some plains GPS works. On the last one I tried, I could not get a
fix, the metal cabin impeded it, I guess. Just a month before, I could
track the approach path. I think it did not work at altitude.
Frank Slootweg wrote:
On some plains GPS works. On the last one I tried, I could not get a
fix, the metal cabin impeded it, I guess. Just a month before, I could track the approach path. I think it did not work at altitude.
You might exceed the CoCom limits if you use your GPS on a Virgin
Galactic flight, but not onboard any commercial flight since Concorde
retired :-P
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