• Bluemail

    From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 1 08:36:54 2023
    I use Godaddy for e-mail. On my Windows computer, Starting yesterday,
    I could no longer get e-mail. The problem was apparently that my OWL subscription had expired, and when I paid them the €10, the problem
    went away.

    Now Bluemail on my Android phone doesn't work, so I think I need I
    also need to enable OWL there. But I can't find any way to edit the
    server settings. Can somebody help?

    Or is there no way to do this and I have to delete the account and
    re-add it?

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to Ken Blake on Fri Jun 2 02:36:39 2023
    Ken Blake writes:

    The problem was apparently that my OWL
    subscription had expired

    What is OWL?

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 2 08:43:11 2023
    Am 02.06.23 um 01:36 schrieb Scott Lurndal:
    Ken Blake writes:

    The problem was apparently that my OWL
    subscription had expired

    What is OWL?

    I'm wondering too.

    --
    Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Fri Jun 2 08:48:06 2023
    Joerg Lorenz wrote:

    schrieb Scott Lurndal:

    Ken Blake writes:

    The problem was apparently that my OWL
    subscription had expired

    What is OWL?

    I'm wondering too.

    I'd never heard of it before, but assumed it was this

    <https://www.beonex.com/owl/>

    If godaddy email is MS365 in disguise, maybe 2FA has got enabled, they
    forced me to enable it a couple of weeks ago ...

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 2 07:02:19 2023
    On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 08:48:06 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
    wrote:

    Joerg Lorenz wrote:

    schrieb Scott Lurndal:

    Ken Blake writes:

    The problem was apparently that my OWL
    subscription had expired

    What is OWL?

    I'm wondering too.

    I'd never heard of it before, but assumed it was this

    <https://www.beonex.com/owl/>


    Yes.


    If godaddy email is MS365 in disguise, maybe 2FA has got enabled, they >forced me to enable it a couple of weeks ago ...


    Not on my Windows computer.

    Leaving aside OWL for the moment, let me ask again, does anyone know
    how I can change the server settings on my Android Bluemail? Do I have
    to delete and add back my account or is there a way to change it
    directly?

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Fri Jun 2 16:29:10 2023
    Andy Burns writes:

    If godaddy email is MS365 in disguise, maybe 2FA has got enabled, they
    forced me to enable it a couple of weeks ago ...

    They won't let you oauth2 instead of 2fa?

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  • From Phil@21:1/5 to Ken Blake on Sat Jun 3 05:03:50 2023
    On 02/06/2023 15:02, Ken Blake wrote:
    Leaving aside OWL for the moment, let me ask again, does anyone know
    how I can change the server settings on my Android Bluemail? Do I have
    to delete and add back my account or is there a way to change it
    directly?
    Hamburger menu (top left) -> Three dots (bottom left) -> Account
    Settings -> Tap the email account you want to change -> Edit Account -> Incoming/outgoing Settings.

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 3 08:10:50 2023
    On Sat, 03 Jun 2023 08:02:18 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 05:03:50 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
    wrote:

    On 02/06/2023 15:02, Ken Blake wrote:
    Leaving aside OWL for the moment, let me ask again, does anyone know
    how I can change the server settings on my Android Bluemail? Do I have
    to delete and add back my account or is there a way to change it
    directly?
    Hamburger menu (top left) -> Three dots (bottom left) -> Account
    Settings -> Tap the email account you want to change -> Edit Account ->

    OK so far, but...


    Incoming/outgoing Settings.


    ... that's not a choice there.

    While I was there, I thought that perhaps Bluemail didn't have my
    latest password, so I went to Edit Account -> Update Password and
    entered the current password, It says "Password is incorrect."

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 3 08:02:18 2023
    On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 05:03:50 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
    wrote:

    On 02/06/2023 15:02, Ken Blake wrote:
    Leaving aside OWL for the moment, let me ask again, does anyone know
    how I can change the server settings on my Android Bluemail? Do I have
    to delete and add back my account or is there a way to change it
    directly?
    Hamburger menu (top left) -> Three dots (bottom left) -> Account
    Settings -> Tap the email account you want to change -> Edit Account ->

    OK so far, but...


    Incoming/outgoing Settings.


    ... that's not a choice there.

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 3 08:24:10 2023
    On Sat, 03 Jun 2023 08:10:50 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 03 Jun 2023 08:02:18 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 05:03:50 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
    wrote:

    On 02/06/2023 15:02, Ken Blake wrote:
    Leaving aside OWL for the moment, let me ask again, does anyone know
    how I can change the server settings on my Android Bluemail? Do I have >>>> to delete and add back my account or is there a way to change it
    directly?
    Hamburger menu (top left) -> Three dots (bottom left) -> Account >>>Settings -> Tap the email account you want to change -> Edit Account ->

    OK so far, but...


    Incoming/outgoing Settings.


    ... that's not a choice there.

    While I was there, I thought that perhaps Bluemail didn't have my
    latest password, so I went to Edit Account -> Update Password and
    entered the current password, It says "Password is incorrect."

    Also, while on Edit Account, I see that at the top it says

    PROVIDER: OFFICE365
    Account: xxxxxxxx
    Protocol: IMAP

    On my Windows 11 computer, Thunderbird says

    Server Type: owl
    Server Name: outlook.office365.com
    User Name: xxxxxxxxx

    I don't see where Thunderbird says what the protocol is.

    This is why I thought I might have to edit the server settings.

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  • From Phil@21:1/5 to Ken Blake on Sat Jun 3 16:35:32 2023
    On 03/06/2023 16:02, Ken Blake wrote:
    On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 05:03:50 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
    wrote:

    On 02/06/2023 15:02, Ken Blake wrote:
    Leaving aside OWL for the moment, let me ask again, does anyone know
    how I can change the server settings on my Android Bluemail? Do I have
    to delete and add back my account or is there a way to change it
    directly?
    Hamburger menu (top left) -> Three dots (bottom left) -> Account
    Settings -> Tap the email account you want to change -> Edit Account ->

    OK so far, but...


    Incoming/outgoing Settings.


    ... that's not a choice there.
    Strange! It's there for me (Bluemail Version 1.9.8.213). Two below the
    update password setting.

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 3 09:30:26 2023
    On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 16:35:32 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
    wrote:

    On 03/06/2023 16:02, Ken Blake wrote:
    On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 05:03:50 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
    wrote:

    On 02/06/2023 15:02, Ken Blake wrote:
    Leaving aside OWL for the moment, let me ask again, does anyone know
    how I can change the server settings on my Android Bluemail? Do I have >>>> to delete and add back my account or is there a way to change it
    directly?
    Hamburger menu (top left) -> Three dots (bottom left) -> Account
    Settings -> Tap the email account you want to change -> Edit Account ->

    OK so far, but...


    Incoming/outgoing Settings.


    ... that's not a choice there.

    Strange! It's there for me (Bluemail Version 1.9.8.213).

    Same version here.

    Two below the
    update password setting.


    Following Provider, not editable, and with a big red dot on the right,
    the only choices are

    Name
    Update Password
    Description
    Account Color
    Revert to the Default Account Color
    Calday Manual Config
    Remove Account

    in that order.

    Should I just remove the account and add it back? Is there any
    downside to doing that?

    Or should I just switch to another e-mail client, such as K9, which I
    used to use?

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Ken Blake on Sat Jun 3 18:37:21 2023
    Ken Blake wrote

    On my Windows 11 computer, Thunderbird says

    Server Type: owl
    Server Name: outlook.office365.com
    User Name: xxxxxxxxx

    Why do you need OWL for TB to talk to MS365?
    Mine just speaks direct...

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Ken Blake on Sat Jun 3 20:30:17 2023
    On 2023-06-03 17:24, Ken Blake wrote:
    On Sat, 03 Jun 2023 08:10:50 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 03 Jun 2023 08:02:18 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote: >>> On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 05:03:50 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com> wrote: >>>> On 02/06/2023 15:02, Ken Blake wrote:
    Leaving aside OWL for the moment, let me ask again, does anyone know >>>>> how I can change the server settings on my Android Bluemail? Do I have >>>>> to delete and add back my account or is there a way to change it
    directly?
    Hamburger menu (top left) -> Three dots (bottom left) -> Account
    Settings -> Tap the email account you want to change -> Edit Account -> >>>
    OK so far, but...


    Incoming/outgoing Settings.


    ... that's not a choice there.

    While I was there, I thought that perhaps Bluemail didn't have my
    latest password, so I went to Edit Account -> Update Password and
    entered the current password, It says "Password is incorrect."

    Also, while on Edit Account, I see that at the top it says

    PROVIDER: OFFICE365
    Account: xxxxxxxx
    Protocol: IMAP

    On my Windows 11 computer, Thunderbird says

    Server Type: owl
    Server Name: outlook.office365.com
    User Name: xxxxxxxxx

    I don't see where Thunderbird says what the protocol is.

    Edit / Account settings. Select the account you want, then go to the
    Server Settings section on the left panel. Then at the top right you
    will see "server type: imap mail server" or whatever.

    In your case it says "owl". The protocol is "owl".

    You have to create the account again, you can not change it.



    This is why I thought I might have to edit the server settings.

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 3 12:00:04 2023
    On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 18:37:21 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
    wrote:

    Ken Blake wrote

    On my Windows 11 computer, Thunderbird says

    Server Type: owl
    Server Name: outlook.office365.com
    User Name: xxxxxxxxx

    Why do you need OWL for TB to talk to MS365?
    Mine just speaks direct...


    I don't know why. I tried it a while back, and then I couldn't get
    rid of it. Fortunately it's inexpensive, so I don't care much.

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to robin_listas@es.invalid on Sat Jun 3 12:02:40 2023
    On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 20:30:17 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
    <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    On 2023-06-03 17:24, Ken Blake wrote:
    On Sat, 03 Jun 2023 08:10:50 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote: >>> On Sat, 03 Jun 2023 08:02:18 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote: >>>> On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 05:03:50 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com> wrote: >>>>> On 02/06/2023 15:02, Ken Blake wrote:
    Leaving aside OWL for the moment, let me ask again, does anyone know >>>>>> how I can change the server settings on my Android Bluemail? Do I have >>>>>> to delete and add back my account or is there a way to change it
    directly?
    Hamburger menu (top left) -> Three dots (bottom left) -> Account
    Settings -> Tap the email account you want to change -> Edit Account -> >>>>
    OK so far, but...


    Incoming/outgoing Settings.


    ... that's not a choice there.

    While I was there, I thought that perhaps Bluemail didn't have my
    latest password, so I went to Edit Account -> Update Password and
    entered the current password, It says "Password is incorrect."

    Also, while on Edit Account, I see that at the top it says

    PROVIDER: OFFICE365
    Account: xxxxxxxx
    Protocol: IMAP

    On my Windows 11 computer, Thunderbird says

    Server Type: owl
    Server Name: outlook.office365.com
    User Name: xxxxxxxxx

    I don't see where Thunderbird says what the protocol is.

    Edit / Account settings. Select the account you want, then go to the
    Server Settings section on the left panel. Then at the top right you
    will see "server type: imap mail server" or whatever.

    In your case it says "owl". The protocol is "owl".

    You have to create the account again, you can not change it.

    I thought that was likely to be the case. No time now, but I'll do it
    later today or tomorrow.

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  • From Phil@21:1/5 to Ken Blake on Sun Jun 4 19:44:01 2023
    On 03/06/2023 17:30, Ken Blake wrote:
    On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 16:35:32 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
    wrote:

    On 03/06/2023 16:02, Ken Blake wrote:
    On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 05:03:50 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
    wrote:

    On 02/06/2023 15:02, Ken Blake wrote:
    Leaving aside OWL for the moment, let me ask again, does anyone know >>>>> how I can change the server settings on my Android Bluemail? Do I have >>>>> to delete and add back my account or is there a way to change it
    directly?
    Hamburger menu (top left) -> Three dots (bottom left) -> Account
    Settings -> Tap the email account you want to change -> Edit Account -> >>>
    OK so far, but...


    Incoming/outgoing Settings.


    ... that's not a choice there.

    Strange! It's there for me (Bluemail Version 1.9.8.213).

    Same version here.

    Two below the
    update password setting.


    Following Provider, not editable, and with a big red dot on the right,
    the only choices are

    Name
    Update Password
    Description
    Account Color
    Revert to the Default Account Color
    Calday Manual Config
    Remove Account

    in that order.

    Should I just remove the account and add it back? Is there any
    downside to doing that?

    Or should I just switch to another e-mail client, such as K9, which I
    used to use?
    If you like Bluemail, I'd just remove and add back. Hopefully it fixes
    things.

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 4 13:50:24 2023
    On Sun, 4 Jun 2023 19:44:01 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
    wrote:

    On 03/06/2023 17:30, Ken Blake wrote:
    On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 16:35:32 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
    wrote:

    On 03/06/2023 16:02, Ken Blake wrote:
    On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 05:03:50 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
    wrote:

    On 02/06/2023 15:02, Ken Blake wrote:
    Leaving aside OWL for the moment, let me ask again, does anyone know >>>>>> how I can change the server settings on my Android Bluemail? Do I have >>>>>> to delete and add back my account or is there a way to change it
    directly?
    Hamburger menu (top left) -> Three dots (bottom left) -> Account
    Settings -> Tap the email account you want to change -> Edit Account -> >>>>
    OK so far, but...


    Incoming/outgoing Settings.


    ... that's not a choice there.

    Strange! It's there for me (Bluemail Version 1.9.8.213).

    Same version here.

    Two below the
    update password setting.


    Following Provider, not editable, and with a big red dot on the right,
    the only choices are

    Name
    Update Password
    Description
    Account Color
    Revert to the Default Account Color
    Calday Manual Config
    Remove Account

    in that order.

    Should I just remove the account and add it back? Is there any
    downside to doing that?

    Or should I just switch to another e-mail client, such as K9, which I
    used to use?
    If you like Bluemail, I'd just remove and add back. Hopefully it fixes >things.


    It was my plan to do that today, but other things have come up and I
    was too busy. Maybe tomorrow.

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Ken Blake on Mon Jun 5 12:22:37 2023
    On 2023-06-04 22:50, Ken Blake wrote:
    On Sun, 4 Jun 2023 19:44:01 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
    wrote:

    On 03/06/2023 17:30, Ken Blake wrote:
    On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 16:35:32 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
    wrote:

    ...

    Should I just remove the account and add it back? Is there any
    downside to doing that?

    Or should I just switch to another e-mail client, such as K9, which I
    used to use?
    If you like Bluemail, I'd just remove and add back. Hopefully it fixes
    things.


    It was my plan to do that today, but other things have come up and I
    was too busy. Maybe tomorrow.

    Erase app data before removing it, else the new install might reuse the previous data and fail exactly the same way.

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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